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Demonic01:
So the new US-syria/Venezuela relationship he established was installing a known terrorist to rule Syria and kidnap a sovereign president?

Wow, the double standards!

basilico:
Before the JPCOA was signed , Iran had already started violating it
Do you want to know how?

FreeStuffsNG:
And because Trump criminally assasinated Gen. Qassem Soleiman while on official visit to Iraq.

Trump's recklessness did not start today. He has only first being held to account, not even in his US, but in Iran by Iranians after beating him in a war.

LordReed:
Bro how can you violate what was not yet in force?

Baxilexi:
Let’s not throw stones because we live in glass houses.

Away from that…

I’ve followed his policies and he is quite level headed and not as evil as Assad was. Assad was the devils incarnate. And that’s why I detest the hypocrites here that make it look like Isreal has committed the worst genocide in a war. What was Assads reason for killing over half a million Syrians?

Demonic01:
Nice assertion tho!

But then, Majority of assad's killing was done in a civil war. It doesn't makes Assad worse especially if the civil war was intigated by CIA to see reasons for the world to see a justifiable change of regime in Syria on a long game that will warrant the Americans to install an opposition as a leader in Syria.

The same way, CIA instigated so many Civil wars in the world's history including a past Civil war on cubans currently blockaded by America.

I am not picking sides with iran, isreal and America. I'm just letting you know the obvious that there ain't any justification of the unprovoked attacks on Iran.

You can't tell me it was because of their enriched uranium, 60% grade uranium enrichment is far less than the 90% uranium enrichment required to produce a nuke.

My stance is basically built against the supremacist ideologies of America warranting them to think they have the monopoly to meddle in every sovereign economy in the world.

I don't see such policies as an approach to world power, i see them as an act of corwardice where bullies don't directly confront dudes their sizes but rather picks on toothless dudes.

American/isrealis policies are built on a phenomenon where the majority belittles the minority.

My perspective of view is a reflection of an independent system. I am not a pro Russian /Iranian/Chinese neither am i an Anti - American/Israeli.

I'm just a Nigerian with Pro-Demonic views. My Demonic views is not from a place of religion or spirituality (I don't believe in these indoctrinated systems, i am purely logical)

The Definition of my pro - demonic views is clearly quoted under my comments.

So i ask, what's the justification of your moral views bestowed upon western powers where you advocate for such imperialist values and than still probably criticize the Russians attacks on Ukraine and then justify the isrealis illegal occupation on Lebanon and Palestinian lands ??

Asmanthinket:
is it only an 80 years old man you saw in the killing? Didn't you see that all their leaders and scientists have gone? The worst is that the 80years old man was so foolish that he died with all his children. Even the one that is believed to be alive is no where to been seen
You think it is easy to get back all the lost leaders with the same belief system? Infact Iran lost big timr
You guys should stop encouraging yourselves

LordReed:
Bro how can you violate what was not yet in force?

basilico:
Negotiations don't take one day. It's a process .
When you are making arrangements to marry , you stop seeing other girlfriends.

Baxilexi:
It’s futile to parse through this silly list, but for clarity,

When did Iran develop the largest missile stockpile in the Middle East?
When did they enrich uranium upto 60%?
Who gave the Houthi’s and Hezbollah hypersonic missile?

When was $25Bn released?
When was all sanctions lifted?

Where’s the Ayatollah?
Where’s Iran’s naval fleet?
Where’s their fighter jets?

The unpatriotic nuisances of democrats are the only reason why write ups like this exists. If Trump has half the power of Xi jinpin, Putin, Netanyahu or Kim, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

The extremists love leftists, bunch of useful idiots.

America should remember, their constitution is not a suicide pact, they have real enemies that wish to see them bleed.

Baxilexi:
I couldn’t agree more only unintelligent people use a different criteria;

He singlehanded brought in the largest investment into the American economy before the war;

Established a new US-Syria/venezuela relationship;

Best stock market performance in years;

Currently sells the most oil globally;

Forced Europe and Asia to pay higher tariffs;

Cut back on government spending internationally;

Brought the World Cup to the US and pegged tickets at the highest ever sold in the history of the came and yet stadia are full (in the worst economy ever)

This is on the home front.


While IRGC apologists may attempt to twist the narrative that Iran is doing well, they’re suffering, badly. The only difference is Americans have a very low threshold for pain. Buying knicks tickets for $5000-50,000 in a terrible economy but $5 gas at the station is a massive inconvenience.
Note; Nigeria a poor country also paid the global rate for energy prices.

The IRGC may be breathing but it’s breathing its last; its lieutenants in Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq are dwindling fast. The ideology is fading and Trump has woken up Europe. The UK has proscribed Palestinian protest as a crime something they were formerly scared to do because of external threats.

In all the propaganda, remember, an MOU is not a pact or a treaty. At this point it’s a let’s sit down and yap. 1 cent hasn’t been given to the IRGC.

davodyguy:
Pathetic, Trump cancelled the deal in his first term, mofo, so they decided to enrich

basilico:
If Iran had obeyed the JPCOA agrreement, full compliance through Year 10 would have resulted in the following outcomes.

MrEar:
Trump vs Obama Iran deal which looks better?

source

Leepeak:

According to Trump and isreal association of nairaland forums ATIANF
They are wise them say Obama na mumu
I head today USA death was 756 soldier they are hiding the figure
Why in Israel no body died
I like join Israel soldier when spirit nor dey die
USA only 13 soldier died flying 39 air plane
Africa magic dey learn
Obama was a fool according to some here anyway rip to the dead thank God trump son Baron is alive with his dick raising and ready to impregnate another one who do die don die

MrEar:
Trump's deal looks way much better and smarter according to intelligent nairaland geopolitics first class expert PhD professors.

1.
Exceeding heavy water stockpile caps (First Breach): In February 2016, Iran surpassed the JCPOA's strict 130-metric-ton limit on heavy water by roughly 900 kilograms.
2.
Exceeding heavy water stockpile caps (Second Breach): In November 2016, the IAEA found Iran in breach again, exceeding the heavy water cap by 100 kilograms. This forced Iran to quickly ship the excess out to Oman to regain technical compliance.
3.
Testing nuclear-capable ballistic missiles: In March and throughout 2016, Iran conducted multiple ballistic missile tests. This flouted the spirit of the deal and was deemed "inconsistent" with UN Security Council Resolution 2231, which endorsed the JCPOA and called on Iran to halt missile work.
5.
Advanced centrifuge R& disputes: Iran and Western powers clashed over interpretations of the deal regarding how many advanced centrifuges (like the IR-6 and IR- Iran was permitted to operate and test for research and development purposes.Illicit procurement of missile technology: Reports from German intelligence agencies in 2015 and 2016 noted that Iran continued covert, illicit attempts to procure missile technology outside of the officially mandated JCPOA procurement channels.
6.
Secret low-enriched uranium (LEU) exemptions: Prior to Implementation Day in early 2016, Iran held quantities of 3.5% low-enriched uranium hexafluoride that would have immediately breached the 300 kg cap. The Joint Commission quietly exempted this un-bonded material, which critics flagged as Iran exploiting loopholes.
7.
Exploiting loopholes on "heavy water export" language: Iran initially challenged the interpretation of the 130-ton heavy water cap. They argued that if no international buyers were available to purchase their excess product, they were permitted to keep it stored inside the country.

maasoap:
I don't think you known what you're saying by that statement if you are referring to the Trump's first term in office before he cancelled that agreement.
IAEA told Trump that Iran was complying with JPCOA. US intelligent services told Trump that Iran was complying. But Trump in his infinite wisdom and intelligence said no that agreement was in favour of Iran and he ripped it apart during his first term in office.
But if you are now saying referring to his second term in office, what kind of compliance did you expect again from Iran?
And before he started the bombing campaigns alongside Israel, his own US intelligent services told him that Iran wasn't weaponising their Uranium, IAEA said the same thing. But just the way he didn't listen to anyone during the first tenure, he refused to listen to anyone again during the second tenure until he was humbled

basilico:
Iran was flouting the JPCOA deal before the ink was dry.

1.
Exceeding heavy water stockpile caps (First Breach): In February 2016, Iran surpassed the JCPOA's strict 130-metric-ton limit on heavy water by roughly 900 kilograms.
2.
Exceeding heavy water stockpile caps (Second Breach): In November 2016, the IAEA found Iran in breach again, exceeding the heavy water cap by 100 kilograms. This forced Iran to quickly ship the excess out to Oman to regain technical compliance.
3.
Testing nuclear-capable ballistic missiles: In March and throughout 2016, Iran conducted multiple ballistic missile tests. This flouted the spirit of the deal and was deemed "inconsistent" with UN Security Council Resolution 2231, which endorsed the JCPOA and called on Iran to halt missile work.
5.
Advanced centrifuge R& disputes: Iran and Western powers clashed over interpretations of the deal regarding how many advanced centrifuges (like the IR-6 and IR- Iran was permitted to operate and test for research and development purposes.Illicit procurement of missile technology: Reports from German intelligence agencies in 2015 and 2016 noted that Iran continued covert, illicit attempts to procure missile technology outside of the officially mandated JCPOA procurement channels.
6.
Secret low-enriched uranium (LEU) exemptions: Prior to Implementation Day in early 2016, Iran held quantities of 3.5% low-enriched uranium hexafluoride that would have immediately breached the 300 kg cap. The Joint Commission quietly exempted this un-bonded material, which critics flagged as Iran exploiting loopholes.
7.
Exploiting loopholes on "heavy water export" language: Iran initially challenged the interpretation of the 130-ton heavy water cap. They argued that if no international buyers were available to purchase their excess product, they were permitted to keep it stored inside the country.

On centrifuges,Iran was positioning to refine further than the IAEA limits .
There is absolutely no reason to have 60% highly enriched Uranium apart from building a weapon or threatening other states that we can quickly build one.




Lordreed

LordReed:
Bro can you produce the evidence that Iran was close to developing a nuclear weapon?

basilico:
How is a weapon produced in the first case.
Get a bucket, throw in uranium abd then drop it from a place?

Baxilexi:
I respect the fact that you’re sincere about your own philosophy, albeit at variance with mine.
I use myself as a standard of measure, do I deserve to die for crimes against god?
Should a woman be killed for unverified blaspheme?
Should a president kill his opponents (Alexei navalny, pregozhi) just because he can?
Should honor killing exist in a world of today?
Shouldn’t any religion deem another unworthy of God’s providence?
Should anyone be killed for holding a different opinion about someone?

Shouldn’t there be a clear distinction between what is called a sin and a crime?

The west isn’t perfect but I choose to pitch my tent with them.
Read the works of John Locke and you may become a believer.