₦airaland Forum

KennethOkonkwo:
That is where Nigerians should call out those greedy governors.I swear Tinubu is not our problems but governors.They are the one frustrating LG autonomy!
You will,months after state police bill us passed non of them will have implemented it

dequir:
Mr. Stockholm Syndrome, when are you going to get tired of this cliche?

Ttalk:
You said the bill has been passed by the Senate and there's no need for the executive to present their input.

You are always polluting threads with your limited knowledge on topics you know nothing about but when you are lectured youll start blabbing

Kukutente23:
Zombie feeling funky
Has the bill been passed by the senate or not? Yes it has.

So what happens when the executive proposes a bill on same subject? The passed bill and the executive bill are reverted back to the committee on business and ethics to consolidate and re-present the bill from scratch for presentation for first reading. This is a bill that will still go to the states o

So you see why I asked where the sense is in your post now

aybabz101:
This is the best thing he has done so far....

I think it will be speedily passed by the senate and signed by the president into law....

Again, he should facilitate the ease of the state to acquire weapons for the police ...coz i know this will be another challenge...

But state police will be ineffective if local government autonomy is not implemented....

the lack of government presence in the local areas is the primary facilitator of the insecurity problems we face in this country...

let the local government be functional, secure and watch as their economies develop.......this will atleast discourage the youths from moving out in drove from these local environment.......

Ttalk:
I know it will get to this, you have never made any sense in all your argument.
Using headlines as basis for argument always exposes your inadequacies.

Now let me tell you that in legislative practice, the bill has not been passed.

Just because journalist used the wrong words doesn't make it right. The bill just passed the second reading doesn't connotes passage of the bill.

I know you will still mumble your parochial opinion, but that's is purely your cup of tea

nairalanda1:
Laughs in state police.

No state can fund a good enough state police that would work.

It's just an exercise in self deception.

Federal government cannot fund federal police, so na state wey no dey do anything serious re revenue generation, where there are countless schools that are slums, and healthcare centers that are bad, that will fund state police?

At the end, na guys with baton and dressed in khaki like the old NA police of colonial times wey most if not all of you will get, and they will all be decimated by the average criminal and terrorist with AK.

I laugh in state police.

Kukutente23:
You're simply showing your ignorance. The steps I highlighted above holds only for bills that have passed 1st and/or second reading. A bill that passes third reading can only be harmonised and/or presented to the president for assent. It can't be stepped down for reconsideration.
Anyone with average intelligence will know I'm referring to second reading. Go and get properly informed before jumping around abeg.

Kukutente23:
Zombie feeling funky
Has the bill been passed by the senate or not? Yes it has.

So what happens when the executive proposes a bill on same subject? The passed bill and the executive bill are reverted back to the [b]committee on business and ethics [/b]to consolidate and re-present the bill from scratch for presentation for first reading. This is a bill that will still go to the states o

So you see why I asked where the sense is in your post now

givedemwotowoto:
Millions of other people can do the job well and still grant state police autonomy. He has failed. He should resign!

victoryenergy:
I prefer to pay tax for my security, than to pay Ransome to kidnappers...

muykem:
Very good. Let each state protect herself.

DeOTR:
Don't mind him. I don't think any state would be forced to adopt state policing. Any state that's OK with the status quo should leave state policing to those who mean business. We know the fear behind state policing and those against him. It's coming from those hellbent on conquering every inch of the country by the sword. They'll need to wipe 200 million people before they can dream of that. State policing, rightly implemented, will cure a lot of madness quickly.

WizardOfNG:
Absolutely.

macphilip:
okay let's see if it will bring an end to the insecurity

Burob:
Politicians always have a gimmick to deceive the gullible masses anytime it is close to the general election, Deotr, Jonathan did the same wash wash some years ago with constitutional conference.

State police indeed, Legislative alteration in Nigeria refers to the legal and constitutional process of amending the 1999 Constitution and enacting or modifying statutory laws. Governed by Section 9 of the Constitution, it requires a two-thirds majority vote in the National Assembly and approval by two-thirds of the State Houses of Assembly.

The state house of assemblies, especially the ones in the north will reject the bill.

Ttalk:
The Nigeria Senate doesn't have a committee named 'business and ethics'
What we have are separate committees with different roles and functions.
1. Business and Rules Committee
2. Ethics and Privileges.

These committees perform different functions and no where their function overlap, so saying business and ethic committee exist shows you don't know what you are saying
There's no committee like that in the Senate.

Go and educate yourself and be grounded before coming online to type nonsense.

You will still be exposed if you continue using AI to argue your points

nairalanda1:
Okay. Most states struggle to build decent schools, world class hospitals , even decent metro transport services in the state capital

And you want them to have state police?

Lagos will need something like ten times it's current budget to get a decent, world class state police.

And then taxes will be needed to fund the police

Taxes that most of you don't like paying


Laughs in state police

Ttalk:
You got you ideas from junks you read but couldn't comprehend, but am telling your based on experience that spans over 20 years.

Your arrogance and argument on SM has exposed your level of intelligence

Kemetian:
But over 12 million Igbos are in the NORTH enjoying that "One Nigeria".

Is it only when it's time to EAT FROM OTHER REGIONS that you are One Nigeria, but not when it's time to defend the the country?

Nasty.

Kukutente23:
If you know this why are you now supporting same Tinubu in his bid to deceive the gullible masses for a second term

dederocs:
We are Africans we don't go by foreign religious myths and fantasies.

If you don't know your ancestral land that means you are an illegal immigrant and Nigerian immigration should step up patrols, most people from Chad, Niger republic, Mauritania are now claiming Nigeria.

Kukutente23:
Lol. 20 years indeed. You have 20 years experience yet you couldn't decode that I was referring to second reading wren I said passed simply because the headline of the link I posted said "passed"?
Do you dispute any of the processes I highlighted for when an executive bill clashes with a legislative bill?
Even a cow that has spent 5 years in legislative business will know that once a bill has been passed, it cannot be re-presented again except as an amendment to the passed bill and that's after it has gone to the president for assent.
The guy that asked me when the senate passed the bill did not have a problem with the link. It is you who has been whining ever since trying to prove no-point as usual.
You know nothing. That's why you're full of T talk. The T na for trash

Ttalk:
Trash.

You claimed the bill has been passed I proved to you that crossing second reading doesn't amount to bill being passed.

You claimed the bill will be presented to committee on business and ethics, I once again corrected you that there is no committee on the Senate that is tagged 'Business and Ethics'

Grade yourself with these blunders and you'll see you score zero in your argument.

Who is empty between me and you.

The point is that a bill that scale through second reading can still be subjected to many input, and when the input comes as an executive bill on the subject matter will still be accommodated.

Go back to your spare parts business and don't dabble into discussion beyond your capacity

InfoGuru118:
InfoGuru118 from Nairaland:

"President Bola Ahmed Tinubu has formally transmitted a Constitution Alteration Bill to the Senate seeking to establish state police across the country.

The proposed legislation aims to amend relevant provisions of the 1999 Constitution to provide the legal and institutional framework for the creation and operation of state police forces in the federation.

The move marks a significant step in ongoing efforts to reform Nigeria’s security architecture and deepen the role of state governments in maintaining law and order within their jurisdictions.

President Tinubu has consistently advocated constitutional changes to allow states greater responsibility in addressing security challenges. In February, he called on the National Assembly to expedite amendments that would pave the way for state policing, arguing that the current security realities require a more decentralized approach.

According to the President, empowering states with their own police structures would strengthen efforts to combat terrorism, banditry, kidnapping and other forms of criminality across the country.

The bill is expected to undergo legislative scrutiny in the National Assembly, where lawmakers will consider its provisions and implications for Nigeria’s federal system and security framework.

https://verynigerian.com/breaking-tinubu-transmits-state-police-bill-to-senate-for-constitutional-amendment/"

https://www.nairaland.com/8696585/tinubu-sends-state-police-bill#139806529


https://verynigerian.com/breaking-tinubu-transmits-state-police-bill-to-senate-for-constitutional-amendment/

Kukutente23:
I know my points flew over your head

An executive bill is not just an "input" in legislative practice. It is a bill that takes priority even over a legislative bill. That point you failed to understand since yesterday. Am executive bill must be debated at plenary. No legislative house will take an executive bill and treat it as "input". That's simply the level of your ignorance showing.

I repeat again. The process I outlined is for when a bill has not been passed but am executive bill on same subject is presented. The bill will be stepped down and the executive bill considered from scratch. Do you understand the significance of this simple piece of information to the subject matter or you need further enlightenment?

And just for semantics sake, I never said the bill has been passed in a vacuum. I referred to a news report which did not negate my point. Go and cry to premium times if their reportage confuses you

Kukutente23:
I know my points flew over your head

An executive bill is not just an "input" in legislative practice. It is a bill that takes priority even over a legislative bill. That point you failed to understand since yesterday. Am executive bill must be debated at plenary. No legislative house will take an executive bill and treat it as "input". That's simply the level of your ignorance showing.

I repeat again. The process I outlined is for when a bill has not been passed but am executive bill on same subject is presented. The bill will be stepped down and the executive bill considered from scratch. Do you understand the significance of this simple piece of information to the subject matter or you need further enlightenment?

And just for semantics sake, I never said the bill has been passed in a vacuum. I referred to a news report which did not negate my point. Go and cry to premium times if their reportage confuses you