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After going through the blueprint document of the propose state police, I discovered that the state policemen will not be allowed to carry AK-47.

How will state police fix the challenges of bandits, terrorism and kidnapping with pump actions and pepper sprays?

Tribal militia are allowed to though.

There guns better than ak47.

designking:
After going through the blueprint document of the propose state police, I discovered that the state policemen will not be allowed to carry AK-47.

How will state police fix the challenges of bandits, terrorism and kidnapping with pump actions and pepper sprays?

This is how everything gets politicised in Nigeria.Before people start shouting “pepper spray against bandits,” they should first read the bill instead of campaigning with rumours.

From the actual state police bill text now in circulation, I do not see a clause saying “state police are not allowed to carry AK-47.” What the bill does say is different: it moves policing to the concurrent list and creates an exception on light arms for policing so states can legislate on that item. In other words, the constitutional bill creates the framework for state police and for states to make laws on policing-related arms; it does not plainly say “state police will only use pump actions and pepper spray.

CharlesCNG:
This is how everything gets politicised in Nigeria.Before people start shouting “pepper spray against bandits,” they should first read the bill instead of campaigning with rumours.

From the actual state police bill text now in circulation, I do not see a clause saying “state police are not allowed to carry AK-47.” What the bill does say is different: it moves policing to the concurrent list and creates an exception on light arms for policing so states can legislate on that item. In other words, the constitutional bill creates the framework for state police and for states to make laws on policing-related arms; it does not plainly say “state police will only use pump actions and pepper spray.

One state can carry AK while the next might carry FN

designking:
After going through the blueprint document of the propose state police, I discovered that the state policemen will not be allowed to carry AK-47.

How will state police fix the challenges of bandits, terrorism and kidnapping with pump actions and pepper sprays?

Where did you see your own blueprint? 40% of current federal police will sent to their respective states to begin state police. They will not only access AK47 but superior ammunition and guns included amord tanks, gun helicopters depending on states capacity.

designking:
After going through the blueprint document of the propose state police, I discovered that the state policemen will not be allowed to carry AK-47.

How will state police fix the challenges of bandits, terrorism and kidnapping with pump actions and pepper sprays?

AK47 is not the only gun they can carry. Does the blueprint say they can not carry guns at all?

muykem:
Where did you see your own blueprint? 40% of current federal police will sent to their respective states to begin state police. They will not only access AK47 but superior ammunition and guns included amord tanks, gun helicopters depending on states capacity.

My Osun State too?

Our capacity is small at the moment. We can't even pay teachers, and have to rely on Youth Corpers, so I doubt we'd be spending money on "superior ammunition and guns included amord tanks, gun helicopters", and I doubt our criminals will stay in our state and not go bother other states.

I hope they think this through.

Do not spend money on security when bandit carry ina finish you wont know when you'll pay more than that in ransom

budaatum:
My Osun State too?

Our capacity is small at the moment. We can't even pay teachers, and have to rely on Youth Corpers, so I doubt we'd be spending money on "superior ammunition and guns included amord tanks, gun helicopters", and I doubt our criminals will stay in our state and not go bother other states.

I hope they think this through.

SuperEagles:
Do not spend money on security when bandit carry ina finish you wont know when you'll pay more than that in ransom.

My state does not pay for my security as it is. I don't think it cares about me that much, so I better secure myself.

There should be no limitations to arms and equipment for state police otherwise they will become mere vigilante groups

Regsys:
One state can carry AK while the next might carry FN

Choices!

budaatum:
My Osun State too?

Our capacity is small at the moment. We can't even pay teachers, and have to rely on Youth Corpers, so I doubt we'd be spending money on "superior ammunition and guns included amord tanks, gun helicopters", and I doubt our criminals will stay in our state and not go bother other states.

I hope they think this through.

Your State has a choice not to set up a state police,but allow states that needs it to set up their own. Fair enough

Israeli tavor is okay.

Justnation:
There should be no limitations to arms and equipment for state police otherwise they will become mere vigilante groups

AK-47 falls under small arms category.

Every assault rifle falls under small arms category .

If a state wants to procure Gatling guns or anti-aircraft guns then that's a no no because those are not used in civilian policing .

chopnaira:
Israeli tavor is okay.

An ineffective weapon in the field that is only designed for CBQ.

Lifestone:
Your State has a choice not to set up a state police,but allow states that needs it to set up their own. Fair enough

I hardly have any say or control whether my own state sets up state police or not, much less other states, so it's not exactly for me to allow or disallow.

muykem:
Where did you see your own blueprint? 40% of current federal police will sent to their respective states to begin state police. They will not only access AK47 but superior ammunition and guns included amord tanks, gun helicopters depending on states capacity.

This is false.

The state police will get weapons no different than that used by the federal police that are effective for civilian policing..

Gunships and Armoured tanks with 150mm canons are not for civilian policing .

budaatum:
I hardly have any say or control whether my own state sets up state police or not, much less other states, so it's not exactly for me to allow or disallow.

If you have no say in the matters of your state, then don't speak for that of others who are ready to fund and operate their own police force .

designking:
After going through the blueprint document of the propose state police, I discovered that the state policemen will not be allowed to carry AK-47.

How will state police fix the challenges of bandits, terrorism and kidnapping with pump actions and pepper sprays?

Small arms refer to weapons that can be operated and fired by the hip. .

An AK-47 and every assault rifle out there falls under the category of small arms weapons .

DomPerignon:
If you have no say in the matters of your state, then don't speak for that of others who are ready to fund and operate their own police force .

Since you are not my controller, don't tell me what I can express an opinion about or stop paying for my data!

budaatum:
My Osun State too?

Our capacity is small at the moment. We can't even pay teachers, and have to rely on Youth Corpers, so I doubt we'd be spending money on "superior ammunition and guns included amord tanks, gun helicopters", and I doubt our criminals will stay in our state and not go bother other states.

I hope they think this through.

Thrn bandits will kidnap you all,you had better tell your giv to get his dancing arse to work,the security of your state's citizens is now his major responsibility no more pointing to Abuja,abuja is only to complement......if any serious security threath comes up in that state,the president may be forced to declare SOE,hope you wouldn't mind that.

budaatum:
My state does not pay for my security as it is. I don't think it cares about me that much, so I better secure myself.

Even your LGA chairman now has a responsibility to secure you,this state policing legislation is one ofcthe best things to happen in this country as we speak.

Lithiumite:
Even your LGA chairman now has a responsibility to secure you,this state policing legislation is one ofcthe best things to happen in this country as we speak.

I am not going to place my security in my LGA chairman's hands!

Currently, we have 2. The APC chairman who lost the election refuses to vacate for the PDP chairman who won. And the APC chairman is sponsoring thugs with the money the central APC government sends to the local government. If anything, I should be secured against him! If my state had police they might arrest him and his thugs, which would be a good thing.

Lithiumite:
Thrn bandits will kidnap you all,you had better tell your giv to get his dancing arse to work,the security of your state's citizens is now his major responsibility no more pointing to Abuja,abuja is only to complement......if any serious security threath comes up in that state,the president may be forced to declare SOE,hope you wouldn't mind that.

We need SOE declared in my state already.

See mine above.

We just know how to copy poorly in Nijeriya!

If you check those against state police, 99% of them are those opposed to President Bola Ahmed Tinubu. That is telling enough.

If my below recommendations are not done before implementation of state Police, state Police will fail in improving security in Nigerian states as we all expect. There will be clash of power and interest between the state and federal Police just as we see between army and Police that are not even doing the same job.

1.) Make it compulsory that every Federal Commissioner of Police and all heads of tactical teams and formations under Police command in any Nigerian state must be indigenes of that state where they are posted or working.


2.) Every Commanding Officer of every military cantonment in any state in Nigeria must be an indigene of that state.

3.) Every Director of DSS in every state in Nigeria must be indigene of that state.

4.) Every Civil Defense Corps Boss in any Nigeria state must be an indigene of that state.




I am recommending this to be done first before implementing state Police to avoid sabotage and clash of interest between the State Police and other federal security agencies like Federal Police, Army, and even Civil Defense Corps.


I am making this recommendation based on years of intelligence report on how Fulani herdsmen terrorists and militants operate in every Nigerian state, with locals accusing the Nigerian army of protecting Fulani herdsmen militants after they attack a community.



With my recommendation, both State Police, Federal Police, Civil Defense and Army will work in tandem to secure their state of jurisdiction knowing it is also their indigenous state, so they won't be protecting any group of violent criminals just because they are people from his ethnic divide or religion

budaatum:
My Osun State too?

Our capacity is small at the moment. We can't even pay teachers, and have to rely on Youth Corpers, so I doubt we'd be spending money on "superior ammunition and guns included amord tanks, gun helicopters", and I doubt our criminals will stay in our state and not go bother other states.

I hope they think this through.

My brother, as a fellow Osun person, I will not accept that kind of insult on behalf of the state. “We can’t even pay teachers” is the kind of careless mouth people should control before an Ijesha man starts clearing his throat. I will spare you the curse today — consider that mercy, not weakness.

But on a serious note, that is exactly the point of state police: each state cuts its coat according to its size and capacity.
Nobody said every state must wake up tomorrow and start buying gun helicopters like a Hollywood republic. States with smaller capacity will begin with what they can sustain — local intelligence, mobility, communications, community policing, and properly armed units scaled to their realities.

And your fear that criminals will cross state lines is not an argument against state police. It is an argument for regional cooperation.

In the South West especially, I can easily see a “be your brother’s keeper” arrangement where states share intelligence, coordinate hot pursuit, and build interoperable security frameworks the way Amotekun already hinted at in principle.

So the real answer is not to mock the reform because Osun is not Lagos. The answer is to design it sensibly: phased rollout, regional collaboration, and capacity-based implementation.

State police is not about every state becoming an army overnight. It is about ending the foolish idea that one over-centralised police command in Abuja must pretend to understand every bush path, dialect, and criminal pattern across Nigeria.

So mind your mouth small. Osun is not helpless — and sensible reform does not require fantasy budgeting.

I don’t know where in Osun you are from, but if you are confused, just consult us Ijeshas small. We will explain it to you gently before you use fear to finish your data. Ọmọ Ijẹṣa kì í sáré bẹ̀rù — an Ijesha person does not rush into panic.

chopnaira:
Israeli tavor is okay.

Nigerian state Governors will not be able to purchase this gun for their state Police.


The National Assembly should make it compulsory now that every state must establish State Police Service Commission and make it compulsory that federal government map out a certain percentage of every state's monthly allocation to be paid directly to the state Police Service Commission which must maintain a separate account like LGAs and the committee to govern every state Police service commission must be drawn from the LGAs in that state, meaning every LGA must have a representative and among them, they will recommend three persons to the State Governor to appoint as the Chairman of state Police service Commission and then state house of assembly will do the final screening and approval. It will then be the job of the state service commission to appoint the state commissioner of police from the highest ranking police Officers.


This way, State Governors will not have a total control of their state Police both in funding and in operation.

budaatum:
I am not going to place my security in my LGA chairman's hands!

Currently, we have 2. The APC chairman who lost the election refuses to vacate for the PDP chairman who won. And the APC chairman is sponsoring thugs with the money the central APC government sends to the local government. If anything, I should be secured against him! If my state had police they might arrest him and his thugs, which would be a good thing.

Your fear proves the need for safeguards, not the need to kill the reform.
If a governor can misuse state police, he can also misuse local vigilantes, state security votes, and political thugs under the present system. Abuse risk is real — but keeping a failed over-centralised police system because reform may be abused is like refusing to treat a sick child because medicine can be overdosed.

Your Osun example also shows bias. You focus on how a local chairman may misuse power, but you ignore the other side: a state governor could also be checked by courts, federal intervention triggers, police service commissions, legislative oversight, and clear statutory limits. Recent reporting says the state-police bill already includes safeguards against governors’ abuse, while the federal side would still retain authority over national-security issues and certain intervention powers.

So the objective answer is simple:

local misuse is a real risk
federal over-centralisation is also a real failure
the answer is not to do nothing
the answer is to design oversight, judicial review, independent complaints mechanisms, and clear lines of authority

State police can work because it is meant to improve local intelligence, faster response, and community knowledge, while still operating within a legal framewor

franchasofficia:
Nigerian state Governors will not be able to purchase this gun for their state Police.


The National Assembly should make it compulsory now that every state must establish State Police Service Commission and make it compulsory that federal government map out a certain percentage of every state's monthly allocation to be paid directly to the state Police Service Commission which must maintain a separate account like LGAs and the committee to govern every state Police service commission must be drawn from the LGAs in that state, meaning every LGA must have a representative and among them, they will recommend three persons to the State Governor to appoint as the Chairman of state Police service Commission and then state house of assembly will do the final screening and approval. It will then be the job of the state service commission to appoint the state commissioner of police from the highest ranking police Officers.


This way, State Governors will not have a total control of their state Police both in funding and in operation.

You are partly right that funding must be insulated from governors’ arbitrary control. But let us be accurate: the current public summaries already show that the state-police framework includes State Police Service Commissions and contemplates funding mechanisms, including possible federal grants. So the issue of funding is not being ignored.

Where I have not yet seen clear proof is your more specific formula — that a fixed percentage of each state’s monthly allocation must be paid directly into a separate commission account in the same way local governments are discussed. That may be your preferred model, and it is worth debating.

But let's face reality.all state police forces will not be equal at birth. That is normal.
Federalism is not sameness; it is differentiated capacity under a common legal framework.
The answer is not to reject state police because Kano, Osun, Lagos, and Bayelsa will not look identical on day one. The answer is to build minimum national standards, phased rollout, oversight, and funding support.