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They will tell you that ESN was set up by Kanu to deal with the Fulani menace but will somehow reject the notion of a state police for both their region and other regions especially in the SS and SW.

Why,?

Because ESN was never a vigilante force but a Biafra militia being built towards invading and conquering the adjourning SS.

If ESN was truly setup to tackle Fulani terrorists, why have we never heard of ESN ever attacking Fulani terrorists that used to terrorise places in Enugu bordering Kogi and Benue states?

They are the ones against state policing because they see it as a barrier to any future expansionism by them.

FSBoperator:
They will tell you that ESN was set up by Kanu to deal with the Fulani menace but will somehow reject the notion of a state police for both their region and other regions especially in the SS and SW.

Why,?

Because ESN was never a vigilante force but a Biafra militia being built towards invading and conquering the adjourning SS.

If ESN was truly setup to tackle Fulani terrorists, why have we never heard of ESN ever attacking Fulani terrorists that used to terrorise places in Enugu bordering Kogi and Benue states?

They are the ones against state policing because they see it as a barrier to any future expansionism by them.

Didn't Kanu order ipob to attack Lagos just like Ojukwu did in 1967 when he ordered his Army to invade Ore

I hope every governors in Yoruba land make sure their state police officers are 100% Yoruba.

FSBoperator:
So if you support ESN as a policing force, why are you now rejecting State police ?

claiming that "they are against state police" is another sweeping generalization. People hold different views on state policing for different reasons. You don't get to lump millions of people into one imaginary bloc just because it suits your narrative.

it's ironic to accuse others of rewriting history while doing exactly that yourself. Criticize ESN if you want. Debate its legality if you want. But don't manufacture motives you can't prove and then argue against your own fiction. That's not analysis, it's fan fiction.

madridguy:
I hope every governors in Yoruba land make sure their state police officers are 100% Yoruba.

Fulanis in Miyetti were able to get the Hausa vigilante group Yankassai proscribed as a terrorist group and most of their members killed or jailed.

Now you know.

1Alex:
claiming that "they are against state police" is another sweeping generalization. People hold different views on state policing for different reasons. You don't get to lump millions of people into one imaginary bloc just because it suits your narrative.

it's ironic to accuse others of rewriting history while doing exactly that yourself. Criticize ESN if you want. Debate its legality if you want. But don't manufacture motives you can't prove and then argue against your own fiction. That's not analysis, it's fan fiction.

It's not a generalisation, most if not all Ibo posters here are against state policing and have duly registered their displeasure over the police amendment act ongoing by the Senate.

You sef is just playing to the gallery.

Do you support state police for other regions outside your SE?

Answer me this question.

FSBoperator:
They will tell you that ESN was set up by Kanu to deal with the Fulani menace but will somehow reject the notion of a state police for both their region and other regions especially in the SS and SW.

Why,?

Because ESN was never a vigilante force but a Biafra militia being built towards invading and conquering the adjourning SS.

If ESN was truly setup to tackle Fulani terrorists, why have we never heard of ESN ever attacking Fulani terrorists that used to terrorise places in Enugu bordering Kogi and Benue states?

They are the ones against state policing because they see it as a barrier to any future expansionism by them.

Indeed. All about covetous expansionism bro. At a time many Nigerians are beginning to accept we must go and build our societies as we wish, as indigenes, in our respective States and regions, because we are very different and adversarial, it is them moving for greater influence and assimilation in the land of others. Covetous expansionism.

State Policing is badly needed because of the simple concept it will be populated by indigenes who will be patriotically passionate about the security of their land and people.

They and the core North are the only ones vociferously against it because of covetous expansionism.

TopBanter:
Indeed. All about covetous expansionism bro. At a time many Nigerians are beginning to accept we must go and build our societies as we wish, as indigenes, in our respective States and regions, because we are very different and adversarial, it is them moving for greater influence and assimilation in the land of others. Covetous expansionism.

State Policing is badly needed because of the simple concept it will be populated by indigenes who will be patriotically passionate about the security of their land and people.

They and the core North are the only ones vociferously against it because of covetous expansionism.

The loudest opposition to Ametokun came from the Fulani north.

Their reasons are apparent because they rightly saw a vigilante militia backed by state legislation as a threat to their banditry and lawless herders.

Same thing with why the Ibo people are now against state policing.

FSBoperator:
The loudest opposition to Ametokun came from the Fulani north.

Their reasons are apparent because they rightly saw a vigilante militia backed by state legislation as a threat to their banditry and lawless herders.

Same thing with why the Ibo people are now against state policing.

I like your presence here. You dish out cold truth and fact with almost every single post.

The bolded is 💯% correct and Malami tried to abet it but Yoruba leaders, led by Akeredolu, would not back down. RIP to that leader.

It is all about covetous expansionism for them and the core North. I.e "my own no dey enough for me and I must take your own". They think people cannot read their real agenda and insincerity.

A group of Orsu elders addressed a press conference in Lagos to highlight their plight under the terrorist grouo that is ESN.

They narrated how vandalism, arson , rapes, abductions, sodomy rape, murders committed by ESN had resulted in no less than 5,000 of their people murdered

A thread of that press conference was posted here and you need to see how Ipob supporters here were all blasting the elders of Orsu as paid FG agents .

They are not even bothered that ESN has been busy murdering and raping their own people - that's a sacrifice they are willing to make on the backs of the victims .

ESN did not secure the SE. They turned it into a killing field.

But you will see them still blindly supporting these criminals because it is a militia in the making that is needed for Biafra expansionism.

If ESN had no qualms murdering and raping their own, I wonder what fate awaits us in the SS whose lands have been earmarked by Kanu as "their property".

Was this not how Ojukwu's rogue Biafran soldiers went about terrorising the minority people they claimed they had come to liberate them from Fulani jihad?

TopBanter:
I like your presence here. You dish out cold truth and fact with almost every single post.

The bolded is 💯% correct and Malami tried to abet it but Yoruba leaders, led by Akeredolu, would not back down. RIP to that leader.

It is all about covetous expansionism for them and the core North. I.e "my own no dey enough for me and I must take your own". They think people cannot read their real agenda and insincerity.

I said here once that independence meant different things to the three major tribes

The Yoruba were not keen on joining an independent Nigeria and wanted out before independence. And that mindset is why Yorubas never denied the minorities in the western region their rights to have their own region in 1963 under the Midwestern region.

The Fulani hegemony saw independence as cue to restart their halted jihad that had ambitions to deep their blood soaked swords into the Atlantic. This is why Sardunna rejected any notion of Middle belt region and came out with the slogan "one north".

As per the Ibos, independence meant a continuation of colonialization only with them as the new overlords and that's why they refused to let the minority people in the East leave.

It's all down to how the Fulani and the Ibo see Nigeria and other Nigerians to conquer , subjugate and lord over.

Some Igbos do not support state police is the right statement. I hear Delta state assembly has voted for it and many of them are Igbos. Until the SE votes against it before you can say Igbos are against state police

FSBoperator:
A group of Orsu elders addressed a press conference in Lagos to highlight their plight under the terrorist grouo that is ESN.

They narrated how vandalism, arson , rapes, abductions, sodomy rape, murders committed by ESN had resulted in no less than 5,000 of their people murdered

A thread of that press conference was posted here and you need to see how Ipob supporters here were all blasting the elders of Orsu as paid FG agents .

They are not even bothered that ESN has been busy murdering and raping their own people - that's a sacrifice they are willing to make on the backs of the victims .

ESN did not secure the SE. They turned it into a killing field.

But you will see them still blindly supporting these criminals because it is a militia in the making that is needed for Biafra expansionism.

If ESN had no qualms murdering and raping their own, I wonder what fate awaits us in the SS whose lands have been earmarked by Kanu as "their property".

Was this not how Ojukwu's rogue Biafran soldiers went about terrorising the minority people they claimed they had come to liberate them from Fulani jihad?

Bruv, see below what Ebubeagu, an official outfit like Amotekun, descended into..I don't get these guys..Do they believe other Nigerians are dumb and can't work them out?

They always see the tiny dot in the eyes of others but not the huge plank sticking out of their own.

lawani:
Some Igbos do not support state police is the right statement. I hear Delta state assembly has voted for it and many of them are Igbos. Until the SE votes against it before you can say Igbos are against state police

How can Delta state assembly deliberate on state police when the Senate is yet to review and finally approve the bill sent to it by the House of Reps?

Why you dey lie?

Besides, outside Asaba , how many Delta North people identify as Ibo?

FSBoperator:
It's not a generalisation, most if not all Ibo posters here are against state policing and have duly registered their displeasure over the police amendment act ongoing by the Senate.

You sef is just playing to the gallery.

Do you support state police for other regions outside your SE?

Answer me this question.

did igbo people as a group announce that they are against state police?

1Alex:
did igbo people as a group announce that they are against state police?

Using Nairaland as a barometer, yes.

TopBanter:
They are and it confirms a general pattern which is that some people are duplicitious and only motivated by doing whatever allows them dominate others and not genuine searce for what will deliver progress for man and society.

Check the post I created below and what your brethren alone are doing to note OP is correct. You guys are not about progress and Nigeria becoming Singapore-like.

https://www.nairaland.com/8699409/southern-alliance-shaking-north

If I say I understood one thing from your grammar, then I am a big liar.

Your comment is a perfect example of why clarity matters. It's a pile of buzzwords held together by broken grammar and unsupported assumptions.

"General pattern," "duplicitous," "dominate others", big words, zero evidence. You didn't address a single point that was raised; you just threw around vague accusations and hoped they'd sound profound.

Next time, spend less time reaching for a thesaurus and more time constructing a coherent argument. Right now, your sentence reads like autocorrect gave up halfway through.

1Alex:
did igbo people as a group announce that they are against state police?

Oby has since rejected it without any coherent reason.

Obi claims it will be used to influence the outcome of the 2027 elections even though before any state police can become fully operational it will take at least 2ys after the Police Bill is passed.

NINAS - a pro Biafran group rejected the state police on same useless grounds of deflecting to Fulani jihadists.

Most Ibo posters here all universally reject state police for other states outside their region but hypocritically support ESN.

What does that tell you.

1Alex:
If I say I understood one thing from your grammar, then I am a big liar.

Your comment is a perfect example of why clarity matters. It's a pile of buzzwords held together by broken grammar and unsupported assumptions.

"General pattern," "duplicitous," "dominate others", big words, zero evidence. You didn't address a single point that was raised; you just threw around vague accusations and hoped they'd sound profound.

Next time, spend less time reaching for a thesaurus and more time constructing a coherent argument. Right now, your sentence reads like autocorrect gave up halfway through.

And you ended up saying nothing whatsoever.

FSBoperator:
And you ended up saying nothing whatsoever.

I reacted to the grammar, not the topic. If I understood the comment, I would have reacted accordingly.

1Alex:
If I say I understood one thing from your grammar, then I am a big liar.

Your comment is a perfect example of why clarity matters. It's a pile of buzzwords held together by broken grammar and unsupported assumptions.

"General pattern," "duplicitous," "dominate others", big words, zero evidence. You didn't address a single point that was raised; you just threw around vague accusations and hoped they'd sound profound.

Next time, spend less time reaching for a thesaurus and more time constructing a coherent argument. Right now, your sentence reads like autocorrect gave up halfway through.

Yeah, whatever.

FSBoperator:
They will tell you that ESN was set up by Kanu to deal with the Fulani menace but will somehow reject the notion of a state police for both their region and other regions especially in the SS and SW.

Why,?

Because ESN was never a vigilante force but a Biafra militia being built towards invading and conquering the adjourning SS.

If ESN was truly setup to tackle Fulani terrorists, why have we never heard of ESN ever attacking Fulani terrorists that used to terrorise places in Enugu bordering Kogi and Benue states?

They are the ones against state policing because they see it as a barrier to any future expansionism by them.

South easterners against state police?
Did members of house representatives from SE vote against it?
If tgey didn't vote against it then you are just gossiping.

1Alex:
I reacted to the grammar, not the topic. If I understood the comment, I would have reacted accordingly.

Ignorance is bliss.

Yes, you can claim in court that you don't understand the line of questioning when in the dock.

FSBoperator:
They opposed the ongoing Lagos-Calabar highway because they know very well it will open up remote pristine coastal lands for development .

Those coastal areas are seen by them as their future settlements.

The coastal highway will bring much needed infrastructure to drive real estate and industrial development which they know the SS people are not so keen on selling to them.

It's all from a jealous and covetous stand.

SS should remain under developed until they are ready to develop it for themselves under a Biafra that has the entire indigenes displaced and genocided.

Why you think they all support the ongoing genocide and land grabbing Israel is doing on Palestinian lands?

This is what happens when emotion replaces evidence. Instead of addressing the real criticism, that many Nigerians question the timing of a trillion-naira highway during a severe cost-of-living crisis, you invented an ethnic conspiracy with zero proof.

People can support infrastructure and still question priorities. That's called accountability, not jealousy.

The irony is that you accuse others of tribalism while reducing every policy debate to "Igbos are against it." If your argument cannot survive without ethnic scapegoating, then it was never an argument in the first place, it was prejudice dressed up as analysis.