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Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by casualobserver: 6:38pm On Jun 28
fergie001:
But even after her US citizenship, will she have contested without Buhari's nomination? The US will still not have nominated her.
It really doesn’t matter who nominated you. You will only get the job is you are green lighted by the US. She only got that green light because the acquired US citizenship. I am sure you recall the politics before she got the job.

Bottom line, if the US says we want this Nigerian as DG of WTO, the Nigerian government will fall in line. If the Nigerian government nominates a candidate and the US is against that candidate, he/she isn’t getting the job.

We are talking about the person in charge of the body that sets the rules for world trade. Nigeria is irrelevant. That a Nigerian is there is only to give the illusion of inclusion. In reality NOI has, by taken up US citizenship, sworn an oath of allegiance to the US. That’s why she got the job not because the Nigerian govt supported her. Yes it helps but with these international bodies you can get the top job without support from your govt. I can’t remember which body but it happened recently.
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by damoobaba: 6:42pm On Jun 28
fergie001:
Says who?
She is at the WTO today because of politics. No matter how brilliant she is, she can't be DG without the support of her home country. If Buhari said No, she won't be DG of any International Organisation.

Again, Atiku was instrumental in bringing her to Nigeria from the World Bank and then introduced her to OBJ. So, it's listen to them and politely say NO.
It is part of the rules that anybody who must contest must get an endorsement from his/her own country If your President or home Govt doesn't endorse, you fail nomination instantly.
The APC under Buhari really backed her for that WTO job, the USA never really wanted her to become the DG. She's also a Tinubu person plus she knows the future consequence of running again a political veteran like Tinubu, the Yoruba race will likely never forgive her for that and yoruba politicians will go against her in any future political arrangement, she's just being smart and being calculative.
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by givedemwotowoto: 6:43pm On Jun 28
AndroBlaze:
As far as I'm concerned, their is little need to engage you further...as I see no difference between you and a typical white skin worshiping "black" South African.

Trump did not get his way for 6 months yet Biden got his way in 2 weeks abi..... keep on with this logic Obidient!
If Trump had won the election, she would’ve withdrawn from the race because I see no path forward, though I was rooting for her. You can’t be the DG of WTO without US support, unfortunately.

US has the biggest economy and influence in the world, your emotions can’t change that fact.

If you want to change that, go form your own African Trade Organization and make it the global leader, then you can rightly claim to be the reason why a candidate emerges.

But if you’re playing in organizations created by Western countries, shut your mouth and play according to the rules
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by faceland: 6:44pm On Jun 28
Don't be another Osibanjo.


He didn't even know the diabolical things Buhari, El Rufia, Tinubu and co did to grab power. He was like a baby with down syndrome to them.
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by fergie001(mod): 6:45pm On Jun 28
givedemwotowoto:
The U.S. President (Biden) had the final say, I maintain that statement. If he has chosen the South Korean, the outcome would’ve been different
Leave this argument nah.....

I followed this matter first here on NL:
https://www.nairaland.com/5993688/wto-dg-selection-process-begins-today#91749197

The WTO needs all members to back whomever is the WTO DG. It is agreed that once a group backs him/her, it is assumed countries under that has backed the person. five building blocks must all back the bid.
The US, China, & Japan, Africa Group, Carribean & Pacific States and the EU.

If any one of the groups says NO, the person will not be. It is not an exclusive right of the US. Even if the US accepts you, and China or Japan says No, that's the same outcome. Why do you think Trump didn't then impose his own candidate? We all know how Trump can be. This is because others also insisted on NOI, so there was a stalemate. The WTO had no leadership until Trump was defeated.

Formerly, it was China and the US who opposed NOI, China stepped back later to be on her side. It is not a US thing, it's a membership thing!.
casualobserver:
It really doesn’t matter who nominated you. You will only get the job is you are green lighted by the US. She only got that green light because the acquired US citizenship. I am sure you recall the politics before she got the job.
This is very wrong.
Your bid is submitted alongside your nomination Sir.
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by AndroBlaze: 6:49pm On Jun 28
casualobserver:

It really doesn’t matter who nominated you. You will only get the job is you are green lighted by the US.
She only got that green light because the acquired US citizenship. I am sure you recall the politics before she got the job.

Bottom line, if the US says we want this Nigerian as DG of WTO, the Nigerian government will fall in line. If the Nigerian government nominates a candidate and the US is against that candidate, he/she isn’t getting the job.

We are talking about the person in charge of the body that sets the rules for world trade. Nigeria is irrelevant. That a Nigerian is there is only to give the illusion of inclusion. In reality NOI has, by taken up US citizenship, sworn an oath of allegiance to the US. That’s why she got the job not because the Nigerian govt supported her. Yes it helps but with these international bodies you can get the top job without support from your govt. I can’t remember which body but it happened recently.
You people think so little of yourselves and hate what you see in the mirror too much.

Simple question that I will ask again, if the President of the US solely determines who got the job, why did Trump, the most aggressive president the US has ever had, fail to get the South Korean candidate through months after the process had been completed?

Surely someone from a shithole country cannot prevail against Trump.

Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by TokoEkambi: 6:51pm On Jun 28
Sheuns:
The successes Tinubu had as Lagos state governor can be attributed to the brilliant economic leadership of the central PDP government then.
The central PDP government that withheld Lagos State LG funds? Do you guys post under some influence that first takes you to a parallel universe or something?
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by Sheuns(m): 7:01pm On Jun 28
TokoEkambi:
The central PDP government that withheld Lagos State LG funds? Do you guys post under some influence that first takes you to a parallel universe or something?
Isn’t Tinubu withholding OsunLG funds now?
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by givedemwotowoto: 7:11pm On Jun 28
fergie001:
Leave this argument nah.....

I followed this matter first here on NL:
https://www.nairaland.com/5993688/wto-dg-selection-process-begins-today#91749197

The WTO needs all members to back whomever is the WTO DG. It is agreed that once a group backs him/her, it is assumed countries under that has backed the person. five building blocks must all back the bid.
The US, China, & Japan, Africa Group, Carribean & Pacific States and the EU.

If any one of the groups says NO, the person will not be. It is not an exclusive right of the US. Even if the US accepts you, and China or Japan says No, that's the same outcome. Why do you think Trump didn't then impose his own candidate? We all know how Trump can be. This is because others also insisted on NOI, so there was a stalemate. The WTO had no leadership until Trump was defeated.

Formerly, it was China and the US who opposed NOI, China stepped back later to be on her side. It is not a US thing, it's a membership thing!.

This is very wrong.
Your bid is submitted alongside your nomination Sir.
Nobody will argue that Okonjo needed Buhari to fulfill the nomination requirement, and also make phone calls, no problem, but saying it was because of Buhari that she got the job is an overreach. I want to hear that argument about how that was going to happen without the US (Biden), because we both know it wasn't going to happen if Trump had won in 2020.

My point is that if not for the U.S. she wouldn't have become DG, and there is proof that Trump blocked it and it didn't happen. Also, if Trump had won and insisted on the South Korean, I see no path forward for her. The South Korean refused to back down because she was backed by the US, and immediately the US reversed the decision and backed Okonjo Iweala, she withdrew her candidacy. US is written all over this. In fact, I am convinced that if Trump had won re-election and insisted on the South Korean, she would've withdrawn from the contest.

Since you insist it was becuase of Buhari and not Biden that she got the job, back your argument with facts that show how she was going to make it wouthout U.S. support. Make that argument.

I can say U.S. can convince other nations like China to back them up, can you say that Buhari can influence nations like China to reject the South Korean and insist on Okonjo, or that Buhari had the influence and was making moves to convince the US to back her?

That's the argument I am looking for.
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by peleson1: 7:35pm On Jun 28
fergie001:
Says who?
She is at the WTO today because of politics. No matter how brilliant she is, she can't be DG without the support of her home country. If Buhari said No, she won't be DG of any International Organisation.

Again, Atiku was instrumental in bringing her to Nigeria from the World Bank and then introduced her to OBJ. So, it's listen to them and politely say NO.
It is part of the rules that anybody who must contest must get an endorsement from his/her own country If your President or home Govt doesn't endorse, you fail nomination instantly.
Yes

Her problem was Trump

If it were to be Obama as president, she would not needed buhari at all.

Trump was opposed to her candidacy so she looked for her Nigerian option and got it .


The woman is a solid material, I model my side career after her in a way
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by cliffypatt(m): 7:36pm On Jun 28
Sheuns:
You guys are still parading this lie 2 decades after?

Lagos state got all its state allocations during Objs era.

What was not released were LGA funds and that is because Tinubu created 37 new LCDAs against the Nigerian constitutionally approved 20 LGAs for Lagos.

And because LGA funds were paid to state governors, OBJ wanted to avoid a situation where Tinubu would share funds meant for 20 LGAs amongst 20 LGAs and 37 LCDAs.

The successes of the FG then is what also drove the success of Lagos state. You can’t separate Lagos from Nigeria.

Mind you the same Tinubu that said Obj didn’t give him funds then is also doing the same to Osun state now by withholding the LGA funds.
Well written 👏
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by SeverusSnape(m): 7:47pm On Jun 28
tunjijones:
Central PDP government that withheld Lagos state allocations for several years.

Why una no too dey use una head nau.
Withheld what?. So you still believe this fat lie?. Kai. ThieffffNUBU supporters sha grin grin
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by tunjijones(m): 8:03pm On Jun 28
SeverusSnape:
Withheld what?. So you still believe this fat lie?. Kai. ThieffffNUBU supporters sha grin grin
Who be this?

Do I believe it or did I witness it?

I was an adult when it happened and I am aware of everything.

Na why I no too dey argue with all these small children on this Nairaland. Most of una no Sabi anything.
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by Mccullum: 8:07pm On Jun 28
Sheuns:
The successes Tinubu had as Lagos state governor can be attributed to the brilliant economic leadership of the central PDP government then.
You people thought everyone are illiterate of history, Tinubu administered Lagos State without Federal Government support, no monthly allocation from FG for years, Obasanjo frustrated him, yet he survived it via revenue he generated from Lagos. And you're here attributing his success as Lagos governor to PDP led FG under OBJ and AA.
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by SeverusSnape(m): 8:36pm On Jun 28
tunjijones:
Who be this?

Do I believe it or did I witness it?

I was an adult when it happened and I am aware of everything.

Na why I no too dey argue with all these small children on this Nairaland. Most of una no Sabi anything.
You wey sabi something, please keep on lying to yourself and other data boys on how Lagos' allocations were withheld.

No wonder we have an OLODO uprising.
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by soccerlite: 8:45pm On Jun 28
Atiku Abubakar & Rotimi Ameachi

ADC for Nigeria
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by fergie001(mod): 8:50pm On Jun 28
peleson1:
Yes

Her problem was Trump

If it were to be Obama as president, she would not needed buhari at all.

Trump was opposed to her candidacy so she looked for her Nigerian option and got it .


The woman is a solid material, I model my side career after her in a way
Very good, she is a role model to women out there.
She and Dora are my top of the top.
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by Sheuns(m): 9:00pm On Jun 28
Mccullum:
You people thought everyone are illiterate of history, Tinubu administered Lagos State without Federal Government support, no monthly allocation from FG for years, Obasanjo frustrated him, yet he survived it via revenue he generated from Lagos. And you're here attributing his success as Lagos governor to PDP led FG under OBJ and AA.
Tinubu told you he didn’t get monthly allocations for years?

What he didn’t get was LG allocations because he illegally created 37 LCDAs.

Is the same Tinubu not withholding Osun LG funds now?
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by Mccullum: 9:14pm On Jun 28
Sheuns:
Tinubu told you he didn’t get monthly allocations for years?

What he didn’t get was LG allocations because he illegally created 37 LCDAs.

Is the same Tinubu not withholding Osun LG funds now?
It's not Tinubu withholding Odun local government allocation, it's the court directive. Go and verify that.
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by okoloto: 9:33pm On Jun 28
Okonji would have given him more votes. Wike will not allow amechi to win even his state grin
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by Babaken: 9:54pm On Jun 28
He no know him mate.
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by frog12: 10:07pm On Jun 28
Na lie. Dem give okonjo vp slot and she turn am down shocked shocked
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by kayusely70(m): 10:24pm On Jun 28
Nword22:
That's a storyline... coming back to thank him is because he also supported her not because she can't be where she is..do you know some important world post she held before when buhari was in his Village?
President Trump would have blocked her candidature if Buhari didn't back her at that time.
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by Obaaderemi2: 10:32pm On Jun 28
givedemwotowoto:
The U.S. President (Biden) had the final say, I maintain that statement. If he had chosen the South Korean, the outcome would’ve been different.

You can rightly say Buhari played a key role and nobody will argue with you, but to say she became DG of WTO because of Buhari is a complete overreach. That level of influence can only be credited to the U.S.
You are arguing blindly. The odds were in favor of Okonjo iweala even before the US moved in. If Buhari had nominated someone else, how would see have even gotten the headstart in the first place?
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by Obaaderemi2: 10:38pm On Jun 28
franvincoop:
If you try reply any of those braindead fellows, I will lay a generational curse on you.
Let them believe whatever they want to believe.
Banana wey go ripe must ripe, even if you store am inside kerosene.
grin
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by givedemwotowoto: 11:05pm On Jun 28
Obaaderemi2:
You are arguing blindly. The odds were in favor of Okonjo iweala even before the US moved in. If Buhari had nominated someone else, how would see have even gotten the headstart in the first place?
Let’s say you apply for a job you’re qualified for. One of the requirements is that your father writes a reference for you.

You attend the interview and the candidates are narrowed down to 2 based on qualifications.

The most senior director in the company is supporting the other candidate.

You can’t get the job without his support. Suddenly the director gets fired and there’s hope for you.

The new director decides to support you, and that support gets you the job.

Will it be correct to say you got the job because of the reference your dad gave, not the support of the new senior director?
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by casualobserver: 3:18am On Jun 29
fergie001:
This is very wrong.
Your bid is submitted alongside your nomination Sir.
It doesn’t work that way!

There is theory and there is reality. You are talking theory.
Re: Atiku Nearly Picked Okonjo-Iweala As Running Mate Before Settling For Amaechi by casualobserver:
AndroBlaze:
You people think so little of yourselves and hate what you see in the mirror too much.

Simple question that I will ask again, if the President of the US solely determines who got the job, why did Trump, the most aggressive president the US has ever had, fail to get the South Korean candidate through months after the process had been completed?

Surely someone from a shithole country cannot prevail against Trump.
I am sure you also believe in Father Xmas!

Clearly you are one of those people who believes America spreads democracy and operates by the rules. The US is the world’s biggest hypocrite and they never honour agreements. They tell you one thing and do another. The so called international order based system was not designed for you, It was designed for the US. A country that brought about the fall of the British empire a supposed ally and held them by the balls is not the kind of country that plays fair. The US gets what it wan because it designed the system for them. You are naive if you think otherwise.

The reality of how things work in international bodies be it the UN, WTO etc, is that the US arm twists smaller voter nations by threatening them with sanctions, threatening diplomats with family visa withdrawals/ account closures and school withdrawals for their children and relatives.

If you don’t know this then you are not in a position to comment.

Okonjo got the job only because her appointment was eventually sanctioned by the US and she got that sanction by selling her soul and pledging her allegiance and loyalty to the US. She clearly did not want or need US citizenship or she would have done it long before the appointment.


I suggest you do some history lessons in the origins of these bodies post WW2 beyond the surface level.

This topic reminds me of when I was a child and my father would ask me if I wanted to do something as if I had a say in the matter when in reality (as I would later realize!) he had already made preparations or concluded the matter for the outcome he wanted. Asking me was only to make it seem as if ii had a say….in reality I didn’t and never could have.
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