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| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by aster7: 7:14am On Jun 29 |
THIS IS THE REAL REASON YOU SKIPPED Here it is again. Islam, founded in 622 with its first act of mass violence in 622. Zero years as “the religion of peace.” Help me share these facts incase it gets taken down again please. Education is power. 622 Islam was founded 622 Ethnic cleansing of Jews from Mecca & Medina 622 Extermination of the 14 Arab-Jewish tribes 629 1st massacre in Alexandria 1033 1st Fez Pogrom (ethnically targeted violence), Morocco 1066 Mass murder in Granada 1106 Ali Ibn Yousef Ibn issues death penalty for all Jews 1165 Chief Rabbi of the Maghreb burned alive 1220 10s of thousands of Jews slaughtered in Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Egypt 1276 2nd Fez Pogrom, Morocco 1385 Khorasan massacres, Iran 1438 1st Mellah Ghetto Massacres 1465 3rd Fez Pogrom, Morocco 1517 1st Hebron Pogrom (Jewish massacre) Palestine 1517 Marsa Ibn Ghazi massacre, Libya 1577 Passover massacre, Ottoman Empire 1588-1629 Mahalay Pogroms (series of violent attacks & murder) Iran 1630-1700 Yemeni Jews forced into Dhimmi Sharia 1660 2nd Safed Pogrom, Palestine 1679 Sanaa massacres, Yemen 1747 Mashhad massacres, Iran 1785 Tripoli Pogrom, Libya 1790 Tetuan Pogrom 1805 1st Algiers Pogrom, Algeria 1808 2nd Mellah Ghetto massacre 1815 2nd Algiers Pogrom 1820 Sahalu Lobiant massacre, Syria 1828 Baghdad Pogrom, Iraq 1830 3rd Algiers Pogrom 1830 Ethnic cleansing of Jews, Iran 1834 2nd Hebron Pogrom, Palestine 1834 Safed Pogrom, Palestine 1839 Mashasi Jew massacre, Iran 1840 Damascus Affair 1844 1st Cairo Pogrom 1847 Dar al-Qamar Pogrom, Lebanon 1847 Ethnic cleansing of Jews from Jerusalem 1848 1st Damascus Pogrom, Syria 1850 1st Aleppo Pogrom, Syria 1860 2nd Damascus Pogrom 1862 1st Beirut Pogrom, Lebanon 1864-1880 Massacre in Marrakesh, Morocco 1866 Kuzguncuk Pogrom, Turkey 1867 Massacre of Barfurush, Turkey 1868 Eyub Pogrom 1869 Massacre in Tunis & Sfax, Tunisia 1870 2nd Alexandria Pogrom 1870 1st Istanbul Pogrom 1871 1st Damanhur massacre, Egypt 1872 Edirne massacre, Turkey 1872 1st Izmir Pogrom, Turkey 1873 2nd Damanhur massacre 1874 2nd Izmir Pogrom 1874 2nd Istanbul Pogrom 1874 2nd Beirut Pogrom 1875 2nd Aleppo Pogrom 1875 Massacre on Djerba Island, Tunisia 1877 3rd Damanhur massacre 1877 Mansura Pogrom, Egypt 1882 Homs Pogrom, Syria 1882 3rd massacre in Alexandria 1890 3rd Damascus Pogrom 1890 Tunis Massacee 1891 4th Damascus Pogrom 1897 Tripolitania massacre, Lybia 1901 3rd massacre in Cairo 1901 4th Massacre in Alexandria 1903 Taza & Settat Pogroma 1903 1st Port Sa’id massacre, Egypt 1907 Casablanca Pogrom 1908 2nd Port Sa’id massacre 1911 Shiraz Pogrom 1912 4th Fez Pogrom 1917 Baghdad massacre 1920-30 Arab riots, Palestine 1921 1st Jaffa riots, Palestine 1922 Djerba massacres, Tunisia 1929 3rd Hebron Pogrom 1929 3rd Safed Pogrom 1933 2nd Jaffa riots 1934 Thrace Pogrom, Turkey 1936 3rd Jaffa riots 1941 Farhud massacres, Iraq 1945 4th Cairo massacre 1945 Tripolitania Pogrom 1947 Aden Pogrom 1947 3rd Aleppo Pogrom 1948 Oujda & Jerada Pogroms, Morocco 1948 Libyan massacre 1955 3rd Istanbul Pogrom 1965 5th Fez Pogrom 1967 Tunis riots 1967 Libyan riots 1969 Baghdad hanging of Jews 1970-PRESENT Christian massacres in Nigeria 1980-present Fulani attacks on Christians, Nigeria 2000’s-2010’s Islamic attacks on Christians, Egypt 2014-17 Christian genocide, Syria & Iraq 2015-present ISWAP massacre of Christian’s in Nigeria 2025 Mar Elias church massacre, Damascus 2025 Christian, Druze, Alawite genocide, Syria |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by aster7: 7:20am On Jun 29 |
THE REAL REASON YOU SKIPPED Here it is again. Islam, founded in 622 with its first act of mass violence in 622. Zero years as “the religion of peace.” Help me share these facts incase it gets taken down again please. Education is power. 622 Islam was founded 622 Ethnic cleansing of Jews from Mecca & Medina 622 Extermination of the 14 Arab-Jewish tribes 629 1st massacre in Alexandria 1033 1st Fez Pogrom (ethnically targeted violence), Morocco 1066 Mass murder in Granada 1106 Ali Ibn Yousef Ibn issues death penalty for all Jews 1165 Chief Rabbi of the Maghreb burned alive 1220 10s of thousands of Jews slaughtered in Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Egypt 1276 2nd Fez Pogrom, Morocco 1385 Khorasan massacres, Iran 1438 1st Mellah Ghetto Massacres 1465 3rd Fez Pogrom, Morocco 1517 1st Hebron Pogrom (Jewish massacre) Palestine 1517 Marsa Ibn Ghazi massacre, Libya 1577 Passover massacre, Ottoman Empire 1588-1629 Mahalay Pogroms (series of violent attacks & murder) Iran 1630-1700 Yemeni Jews forced into Dhimmi Sharia 1660 2nd Safed Pogrom, Palestine 1679 Sanaa massacres, Yemen 1747 Mashhad massacres, Iran 1785 Tripoli Pogrom, Libya 1790 Tetuan Pogrom 1805 1st Algiers Pogrom, Algeria 1808 2nd Mellah Ghetto massacre 1815 2nd Algiers Pogrom 1820 Sahalu Lobiant massacre, Syria 1828 Baghdad Pogrom, Iraq 1830 3rd Algiers Pogrom 1830 Ethnic cleansing of Jews, Iran 1834 2nd Hebron Pogrom, Palestine 1834 Safed Pogrom, Palestine 1839 Mashasi Jew massacre, Iran 1840 Damascus Affair 1844 1st Cairo Pogrom 1847 Dar al-Qamar Pogrom, Lebanon 1847 Ethnic cleansing of Jews from Jerusalem 1848 1st Damascus Pogrom, Syria 1850 1st Aleppo Pogrom, Syria 1860 2nd Damascus Pogrom 1862 1st Beirut Pogrom, Lebanon 1864-1880 Massacre in Marrakesh, Morocco 1866 Kuzguncuk Pogrom, Turkey 1867 Massacre of Barfurush, Turkey 1868 Eyub Pogrom 1869 Massacre in Tunis & Sfax, Tunisia 1870 2nd Alexandria Pogrom 1870 1st Istanbul Pogrom 1871 1st Damanhur massacre, Egypt 1872 Edirne massacre, Turkey 1872 1st Izmir Pogrom, Turkey 1873 2nd Damanhur massacre 1874 2nd Izmir Pogrom 1874 2nd Istanbul Pogrom 1874 2nd Beirut Pogrom 1875 2nd Aleppo Pogrom 1875 Massacre on Djerba Island, Tunisia 1877 3rd Damanhur massacre 1877 Mansura Pogrom, Egypt 1882 Homs Pogrom, Syria 1882 3rd massacre in Alexandria 1890 3rd Damascus Pogrom 1890 Tunis Massacee 1891 4th Damascus Pogrom 1897 Tripolitania massacre, Lybia 1901 3rd massacre in Cairo 1901 4th Massacre in Alexandria 1903 Taza & Settat Pogroma 1903 1st Port Sa’id massacre, Egypt 1907 Casablanca Pogrom 1908 2nd Port Sa’id massacre 1911 Shiraz Pogrom 1912 4th Fez Pogrom 1917 Baghdad massacre 1920-30 Arab riots, Palestine 1921 1st Jaffa riots, Palestine 1922 Djerba massacres, Tunisia 1929 3rd Hebron Pogrom 1929 3rd Safed Pogrom 1933 2nd Jaffa riots 1934 Thrace Pogrom, Turkey 1936 3rd Jaffa riots 1941 Farhud massacres, Iraq 1945 4th Cairo massacre 1945 Tripolitania Pogrom 1947 Aden Pogrom 1947 3rd Aleppo Pogrom 1948 Oujda & Jerada Pogroms, Morocco 1948 Libyan massacre 1955 3rd Istanbul Pogrom 1965 5th Fez Pogrom 1967 Tunis riots 1967 Libyan riots 1969 Baghdad hanging of Jews 1970-PRESENT Christian massacres in Nigeria 1980-present Fulani attacks on Christians, Nigeria 2000’s-2010’s Islamic attacks on Christians, Egypt 2014-17 Christian genocide, Syria & Iraq 2015-present ISWAP massacre of Christian’s in Nigeria 2025 Mar Elias church massacre, Damascus 2025 Christian, Druze, Alawite genocide, Syria |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Ishilove(op): 7:22am On Jun 29 |
Brendaniel:No issues. |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Guestmale: 7:30am On Jun 29 |
UrVillageChief:They always claim victim when they meet force greater than their evil one. |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Kobojunkie: 12:28pm On Jun 29 |
aster7:interesting compile! 🤔 |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Kobojunkie: 12:37pm On Jun 29 |
stuffs2002:Only yesterday, an Islamic man here outright denied information literally found in the Islamic Quran and Hadiths. Do you think after realizing the Islamic Taqiyah was strong with him, that I walked away feeling wronged or bruised by his rejection of the facts before him? Heck no! 🤔🤔 I walked away justified that I had proven him an Islamic true and true, one who would deny his Islamic Allah's words for the sake of his Islamic Allah. You can't make this sheet up! 🥱🥱 |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Expanse2020(m): 4:13pm On Jun 29 |
Kobojunkie:Ehen Christianity was not force down to our throat here in Africa... Even if I don't know anywhere I know about Nigeria, Ghana even the west Africa we are ... Telling our fore father to close our eyes when praying and stealing our armentity Forcing us to slave... taking us to there land to do labour jobs |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Expanse2020(m): 4:15pm On Jun 29 |
Kukutente23:Are you crying after I showed you the proof that your religion our major shareholders of funding and funding terrorism... |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Kukutente23: 4:17pm On Jun 29 |
Expanse2020:Proof? Where's the proof? Show me the receipt of the funds they gave to terrorists Which madrasa did you attend sef |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Expanse2020(m): 4:33pm On Jun 29 |
Dbegining:So those crusader who killed so many people were not doing it for Christianity... After you see all the list or should I bring it back for ..... Christianity who stole many things from our land , who told our fore father to accept Jesus, change there name Who told our fore father to choose bible or choose gun (death) Millions of people where used to feed fish in Mediterranean sea...they enslaved millions of black Christianity You people are pathetic liars.. All the devil's tool were still in Badagry to proofed you atrocities |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by sweetjohn(m): 4:39pm On Jun 29 |
Difrent:We Christians don’t deny our mistakes. Both Muslims and Christians have treated the Jews badly. But the moment Christians started reading the Bible by themselves when it was interpreted to all languages; we now know better and stop attacking the Jews . Judaism is the basis of our faith. And we now love the Jews somuch. But you guys have constantly and foolishly refused to learn that you can never ever defeat this people bc they are God chosen people. |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Expanse2020(m): 4:40pm On Jun 29 |
Kukutente23:How many proof you need From prodigal terrorist son who came home to meet their white God father who created to disturb world peace To funding different terrorism a cross globe . Christianity no get shame
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| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Kukutente23: 4:46pm On Jun 29 |
Expanse2020:What school did you attend seriously It should be shut down You keep claiming funding yet you can't show the receipts So Christianity is funding Muslims to carry out Islamic terrorism to make Islam look bad Your logic is top notch Sha don't use this brain to fry plantain |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Dbegining: 5:52pm On Jun 29 |
Expanse2020:Mr. Man. Its laughable that you, a Muslim, want to tell me the history of the crusades.😂😂 There were 8 crusades altogether and all were done to: 1. Prevent the islam empire from completely wiping out Christianity. 2. Recover LANDS stolen by the muslims There is a saying that you dont bring a knife to a gun fight and you dont speak poems to one who wields a sword. The same GASLIGHTING YOU'RE DOING TO northern christians now. WE NEED ANOTHER CRUSADE BUT THIS TIME IN NIGERIA. Expanse2020:Our forefathers were preached to. The colonization was completely different from the work of the missionaries. Unlike ISLAM. The history of Uthman dan fodio is still fresh in our memories. Who conquered the entire north and killed thousands. Came as far as Ilorin before strong Yoruba warriors chased them back. From the start of Islam, it spread by the sword. mumu was a war lord who slaughtered millions, kept slaves and was a brutal dictator. Amd even till today it's still the world's number one problem. Like cancer. Mali, Chad, Nigeria, Nigeria, Burkina Faso, west Africa all battling Islamism. Don't ever compare Christianity to Islam again. |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Kobojunkie: 6:03pm On Jun 29 |
Expanse2020:I should also clarify that forced in the sense which I used it is nothing like the Islamic "convert or die" culture which continues on to this day, 1400 years after Islam entered Africa. ![]() Forced in this sense refers to mass campaigns to transition many people to Christianity by way of continual preaching and education --- no swords, knives to their throats, or guns to their heads. Many Africans, of course, continued worshipping their ancestral gods(some even revolted)ng against the Christians, which was unintended, while a good portion of people have abandoned the old way of worship and life for Western ways as intended. ![]() Your forefathers were not massacred and butchered to convert them to Christianity. They instead received the needed education that helped shift their minds from the barbaric past of human sacrifices and enslavement of their neighbors to one that was more humane in all ramifications. ![]() Islam never did that for your ancestors for over 1100 years of its presence in Africa, especially in Nigeria. Islam's "Convert or Die" ideology was a plague on the people and their children until the white man showed up. ![]() |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by KnownUnknown: 6:04pm On Jun 29 |
The mourners who wail louder than the bereaved are it again. There is no difference between the jihadists and the crusaders. All were/are a bunch of genocidal thieves working under the orders of even bigger thieves. The question is why are you unable to see the scam and exploitation of these animals? What makes you think their religious lores are any more real than any fairy tale you’ve ever disregarded? |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Richcreed(m): 8:18pm On Jun 29 |
The Christian Crusades began in 1095 AD, when Pope Urban II called for the First Crusade at the Council of Clermont. The first Crusader armies departed in 1096, and they captured Jerusalem in 1099. What caused the Crusades? There wasn't just one cause. Several factors came together: The Byzantine Empire asked for help. The Byzantine emperor, Alexios I Komnenos, appealed to the pope for military assistance after losing territory in Asia Minor to the Seljuk Turks. Religious motivation. Jerusalem was the holiest city for Christians because of its connection to the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus. Pope Urban II urged Christians to reclaim the Holy Land and promised spiritual rewards, including remission of sins, for those who joined the expedition. Protection of pilgrims and Eastern Christians. Reports of difficulties faced by Christian pilgrims traveling to the Holy Land and concerns about Eastern Christian communities were used as part of the appeal for a crusade. Historians note that the situation varied over time and place, but these concerns were an important part of the crusading message. Political and economic reasons. Some European nobles hoped to gain land, wealth, prestige, or influence. The papacy also saw an opportunity to strengthen its leadership over Western Christendom. Were the Crusades only against Muslims? No. Although the best-known Crusades were fought against Muslim rulers in the Holy Land, Crusades were also directed against: Christian groups considered heretics by the Catholic Church. Pagan peoples in northern and eastern Europe. Even other Christians, most notably during the Fourth Crusade, when Crusaders attacked and looted Constantinople in 1204. The major Crusades to the Holy Land lasted from 1096 to 1291, though other crusading campaigns continued in different regions for longer. The crusades were not about fighting the muslims alone. |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by omojeesu(m): 11:40pm On Jun 29 |
Messed up logic! As usual! Linking and comparing incomparables. 1. What had Isreal got to do with Christianity? 2. Is Christianity the name of a country like Israel? 3. When was the last Christian Crusade? 4. Against whom will be the Crusade? 5. Give source of your information or it is a figment of your imagination? mastermaestro: |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by omojeesu(m): 11:43pm On Jun 29 |
Thank you in defence of truth and verifiable historical facts. aster7: |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by omojeesu(m): 11:48pm On Jun 29 |
Your acts till date: Here it is again. Islam, founded in 622 with its first act of mass violence in 622. Zero years as “the religion of peace.” Help me share these facts incase it gets taken down again please. Education is power. 622 Islam was founded 622 Ethnic cleansing of Jews from Mecca & Medina 622 Extermination of the 14 Arab-Jewish tribes 629 1st massacre in Alexandria 1033 1st Fez Pogrom (ethnically targeted violence), Morocco 1066 Mass murder in Granada 1106 Ali Ibn Yousef Ibn issues death penalty for all Jews 1165 Chief Rabbi of the Maghreb burned alive 1220 10s of thousands of Jews slaughtered in Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Egypt 1276 2nd Fez Pogrom, Morocco 1385 Khorasan massacres, Iran 1438 1st Mellah Ghetto Massacres 1465 3rd Fez Pogrom, Morocco 1517 1st Hebron Pogrom (Jewish massacre) Palestine 1517 Marsa Ibn Ghazi massacre, Libya 1577 Passover massacre, Ottoman Empire 1588-1629 Mahalay Pogroms (series of violent attacks & murder) Iran 1630-1700 Yemeni Jews forced into Dhimmi Sharia 1660 2nd Safed Pogrom, Palestine 1679 Sanaa massacres, Yemen 1747 Mashhad massacres, Iran 1785 Tripoli Pogrom, Libya 1790 Tetuan Pogrom 1805 1st Algiers Pogrom, Algeria 1808 2nd Mellah Ghetto massacre 1815 2nd Algiers Pogrom 1820 Sahalu Lobiant massacre, Syria 1828 Baghdad Pogrom, Iraq 1830 3rd Algiers Pogrom 1830 Ethnic cleansing of Jews, Iran 1834 2nd Hebron Pogrom, Palestine 1834 Safed Pogrom, Palestine 1839 Mashasi Jew massacre, Iran 1840 Damascus Affair 1844 1st Cairo Pogrom 1847 Dar al-Qamar Pogrom, Lebanon 1847 Ethnic cleansing of Jews from Jerusalem 1848 1st Damascus Pogrom, Syria 1850 1st Aleppo Pogrom, Syria 1860 2nd Damascus Pogrom 1862 1st Beirut Pogrom, Lebanon 1864-1880 Massacre in Marrakesh, Morocco 1866 Kuzguncuk Pogrom, Turkey 1867 Massacre of Barfurush, Turkey 1868 Eyub Pogrom 1869 Massacre in Tunis & Sfax, Tunisia 1870 2nd Alexandria Pogrom 1870 1st Istanbul Pogrom 1871 1st Damanhur massacre, Egypt 1872 Edirne massacre, Turkey 1872 1st Izmir Pogrom, Turkey 1873 2nd Damanhur massacre 1874 2nd Izmir Pogrom 1874 2nd Istanbul Pogrom 1874 2nd Beirut Pogrom 1875 2nd Aleppo Pogrom 1875 Massacre on Djerba Island, Tunisia 1877 3rd Damanhur massacre 1877 Mansura Pogrom, Egypt 1882 Homs Pogrom, Syria 1882 3rd massacre in Alexandria 1890 3rd Damascus Pogrom 1890 Tunis Massacee 1891 4th Damascus Pogrom 1897 Tripolitania massacre, Lybia 1901 3rd massacre in Cairo 1901 4th Massacre in Alexandria 1903 Taza & Settat Pogroma 1903 1st Port Sa’id massacre, Egypt 1907 Casablanca Pogrom 1908 2nd Port Sa’id massacre 1911 Shiraz Pogrom 1912 4th Fez Pogrom 1917 Baghdad massacre 1920-30 Arab riots, Palestine 1921 1st Jaffa riots, Palestine 1922 Djerba massacres, Tunisia 1929 3rd Hebron Pogrom 1929 3rd Safed Pogrom 1933 2nd Jaffa riots 1934 Thrace Pogrom, Turkey 1936 3rd Jaffa riots 1941 Farhud massacres, Iraq 1945 4th Cairo massacre 1945 Tripolitania Pogrom 1947 Aden Pogrom 1947 3rd Aleppo Pogrom 1948 Oujda & Jerada Pogroms, Morocco 1948 Libyan massacre 1955 3rd Istanbul Pogrom 1965 5th Fez Pogrom 1967 Tunis riots 1967 Libyan riots 1969 Baghdad hanging of Jews 1970-PRESENT Christian massacres in Nigeria 1980-present Fulani attacks on Christians, Nigeria 2000’s-2010’s Islamic attacks on Christians, Egypt 2014-17 Christian genocide, Syria & Iraq 2015-present ISWAP massacre of Christian’s in Nigeria 2025 Mar Elias church massacre, Damascus 2025 Christian, Druze, Alawite genocide, Syria[/quote] |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Difrent: 6:12am On Jun 30 |
sweetjohn:Yaaa As usual, Christianity wants to forget it's sordid pasts claiming it's has reformed in the 19the century But won't give way for Muslims to go through what they went through before reforming knowing they had a 600 years headstart No I'm not Saying it will take 600 years after Christian reformation before Islam reforms , but give it time , Islam will also reform itself With all the Christian reformation we still see those whose practices are suspect eg. Celestial church, Mormon church, Ekankar etc Islam in places like in Indonesia is very different from what is practiced in Afghanistan. Even in Nigeria, in the south west their own brand of Islam isn't the violent type they practice up north Mohammed was a religious leader, political leader and military leader so his religion encompasses all the three aspects of his life That you follow Jesus based on a fable that once you believe in him you will be clear of sins no matter how terrible it's is, is not a problem to Muslims who also have their own fables Lastly Wetin even concern African man with the religion of father Abraham sef? China is going to take over from the USA as world power , is that a defeat of the Judeo-Christian west? No it's not but a proof that not only Christianity brings prosperity as west usually like to claim |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Lukuluku69(m): 12:50pm On Jun 30 |
OriOko88:Ok. The Enlightened One, these Crusaders are of which ethnic background? They are Europeans who are now Christians. Abi? One wonders what they are looking for in Judea when the Church Jesus promised to build is already in Rome!? And talking about the "Tomb" of Jesus, and I humbly ask, how can someone who left with his physical body for heaven have a tomb here on earth?! Remember, he rose after three days, according to your Bible. And just so you know, the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in which it was said to have been the resting place of Jesus after the Calvary events has always been in the care of the Muslim from the time Khalif Umar took Jerusalem till date. It has always been a Muslim family that opens it gates to date. Find out, please. Also, find out the reason Pope Urban I think called for the crusades, it has nothing to do with any Pilgrims harassment rather it was just an envious rabble rousing to the spread of Islam and the lost of that place to European Colonists who left Europe enmasse when Europe became Christians. The Romans and the Greeks all came to replace the Jews the Romans kicked out after they (the Romans) destroyed the Jewish Temple. Rome came with Military Power while the Greeks came with their Intelectual power. The Jews could withstand them and remained scattered and could only fed from the crumbs that fell of the Colonists table and to get in into Judea, they either renounce Judaism or embrace Christianity. All that changed when the Muslim Army took over during the reign of Umar ibn Khattab. What filtered into Europe as harassment is not but the usual embellishments known with the Christian faith. And when you heard that, both sides committed atrocities, the atrocities on the part of the indigenous people is simply standing firm and defending their land while, people who came from England, Rome, France and elsewhere in Europe came to kill, pillage and do all sorts simply because a Pope said all their sins will be forgiven should they take back the Holy land. History is kind enough to record all that they did. Research it. |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Lukuluku69(m): 1:05pm On Jun 30 |
CodexiveZee:How did the Byzantine territory extended into Judea, Syria, Lebanon etc? How? The answer? Conquest. The same for the Romans. You do not see anything wrong in that because they are Christians or later adopted Christianity. But when the Muslims (whom you have been programmed to dislike) took these territories back, while the Romans and the Byzantine Colonists turn tail and fled to the Bosphorus and Europe you have issues with it. By the way, the Muslims that took over these territories are natives to this Lands. The Arabs, Kurds, Persians, Levants have more rights to this lands than people from Rome, the English Isles, France and elsewhere. By the way too, the Children of Israel took that Land by Force. Go research it. |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Kobojunkie: 1:06pm On Jun 30 |
Difrent:1. Islam was also considered a heretical sect of Christianity by those who lived around the time of Mohammed himself, and would have been judged the same way you would have judged the sects in red, but guess what? Rather than "reform", it evolved into a monster beyond what they expected. Why? Because, unlike the others, from its beginning, Islam is a political system --- the Quran is literally a State Constitution along with its own Criminal code, Sharia --- masquerading as a religion. Its goal is state conquest and domination. Islamists literally say this every time they open their mouths to speak the reality of Islam to you, anywhere on earth you find them, including Nigeria. What more closely compares to Islam is Communism/Socialism(its religion is atheism), and not some religious denominations. ![]() 2. Islam violently conquered Indonesia as it did other Islamic nations today. Religion is heavily regulated, and blasphemy laws are imposed on everyone in the land, meaning that freedom of speech is not a thing. I am not sure why you are desperate to have us believe that Islam in Indonesia is some different flavor of sharia than what is known. ![]() 3. Because the Yoruba Muslims have never really been an organized majority of South Western Nigeria, we should all take that to mean that Islam in Nigeria is not as bad as Islam is? Are you for real? ![]() 4. You just highlighted the major issue with Islam. It is not a religion but rather a political system that imposes a religion, and that does not compare to any religion out there. Expecting it to reform is like expecting a spider to morph into a harmless wall gecko, like Mormonism, or other religious denominations out there. From what we know of other such ideologies like Islam, it is incapable of morphing. Rather, it needs to be exposed for what it is and beaten back to Medina from whence it came. ![]() 5. Muslims have no such fables. Instead, they believe that living exactly as Mohammed lived and prescribed, as a warlord, who massacred those who did not believe in his ideals and private delusions, reduced women and children to lesser standards, swore that his livelihood was by the spear, basically banditry was his way of amassing fortunes for himself, etc. That man was worse than Anini, only that he had a brainwashed set of followers. ![]() 6. Nonsense! Islam has basically colonized Africa for over 1200 years and is currently still massacring its way through the continent. Yet you desire to have Africans ignore the enemy in its gates? WOW...it seems you are one of those who are not the least bit concerned when you are not directly impacted. ![]() |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Difrent: 1:12pm On Jun 30 |
Kobojunkie:It's simply following Christianity blueprint Abi you wan deny that too, that Christianity didn't colonize Africa ? When we have our own religion Your Christianity is also a political system thats hiding under religion ![]() |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Kobojunkie: 1:25pm On Jun 30*. Modified: 7:49pm On Jun 30 |
Difrent:Wrong! The religion of Christianity is nothing like Islam which is instead a political system that imposes a religion on those it seeks to rule over. It never conquered any states, nor does it rule over what you refer to as the 3 aspects of life. The religion of Christianity is instead sold as a moral foundation upon which individuals are to live their lives as they see fit. That is why, thanks to the reform of behavior, you have such things as freedom of speech and freedom of religion in much of the Western world. ![]() 2. Wrong! The religion of Christianity never colonized Africa. Rather, what history records is that missionaries came to Africa to teach Christianity to the people, and this goes as far back as the 1st century AD. The religion of Judaism probably arrived on the continent before this. That is not what colonization means or implies. ![]() 3. Technically wrong as well! Two of the oldest religions in Africa were Judaism and Christianity. Christianity predates Islam on the continent by at least 500 years. 4. Wrong! As I already explained, the religion of Christianity, as designed by its so-called Christian fathers, has no political component to it, so it cannot conquer nations. ![]() |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Lukuluku69(m): 2:01pm On Jun 30 |
Pacesetter123:We all know what you have been taught in CRK classes those days, it is now on you to step out of that Class and found out about things yourself. We now live in an age where you can research stuff right from inside your living room. You mentioned Antioch as the first place anyone was ever labelled Christian. Prior to that was were people in those space called? What do they worship? What kind of system of belief do they subscribed to etc. Find out. On the issue of Crusades and the Holy Lands. Please f8nd out how those claiming those Lands as Children of God came into the possession of it, f8nd out how that lead became Christians and also find out how they became Muslims. Fund out the conflicts that arises out of the interaction of belief systems and cultures. Find out the make up of those who ate crusaders and those who are the defenders of that space. When you do a thorough and dispassionate reviews I am sure we all will come to an understanding 9f what truly transpired. But one thing I can tell you for free is this, that Land has always been taken by Force right through recorded history. It doesn't matter who the Airhors are, the history of the Holy Land has always been fraught with Wars and bloodshed. |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Difrent: 7:15pm On Jun 30 |
Kobojunkie:The adherents had other intentions and carried on a lot of politics and business in its name , The church had slaves damn it The Church even blessed and approved of Hitler , celebrating him from their pulpits Doesn't matter whether you agree or not evidences yap, just even watched how the church of England brand slaves with a word indicate they belong to the church to be used on its plantations and made humongous wealth |
| Re: The Dark Side Of The Crusades: Massacres, Cannibalism, And The Fall Of Jerusalem by Kobojunkie: 7:26pm On Jun 30*. Modified: 7:52pm On Jun 30 |
Difrent:Nonsense! There is no evidence of this even as of the time of Mohammed and his Islam. 2. Slaves were the first goods ever sold in the history of mankind. Every civilization and people across the globe had slaves. Up until the abolition of slavery in the 20th century, slavery was mostly legal in all parts of the world. Right there in Africa today, slave traders who captured and sold their fellow Africans to other communities, the Arabs or even the Europeans at some point, are celebrated as part of history. Your African ancestors were mostly either slave traders, those who served slave traders, or those who were slaves. So, you're telling me that the church slaves mean damned near nothing. ![]() All that said, today Islam has ushered Slavery back in with over 40 million individuals across the world currently living as slaves. The vast majority of them are in Africa and other Islamic countries like Afghanistan, Yemen, etc. 3. Islam not only blessed and approved Hitler, but carries his legacy on to this day. As a matter of fact, if you look closely at Hitler's hate for the Jews, it is not far-fetched to conceive that there must have been some parallel drawn by him from certain religions, particularly Islam. History is littered with the many connections and coverings overheard even after the war, to Hitler's men by Arab nations. ![]() 4. Your argument falls flat when it meets reality and history. That is what the evidence continues to reveal. ![]()
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