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Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Zonefree(m): 10:17am On Jun 29
brain54:
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I understand tipping for good or exceptional services. Like when my barber gives me a good haircut that impresses me and I really like once in a while.


But I can't understand why I should be forced, mandated or compulsorily pay tips for service rendered all the time when someone has a company or boss who he works under and whose duty it is to make sure he gets payed or compensated adequately for his job by paying him salary or wages.


It could be the Nigerian/African in me but I never understand it.


Most Western/European countries have the culture of tipping but seems the US has taken it to a whole different level.

To me It's even more confusing and weird because there is no standard or regulated accepted amount that should be tipped!
@bolded
Abi the village in you?
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Ironfaceman(op): 10:26am On Jun 29
That Aboki cheated you. Dols is more than that.

OK how many SME can pay 3000 naira per he in 9gria



Pacesetter123:
That's a lie,a very big one at that.
Which $2 is equivalent to #4,000?
I just changed dol and it's #1,400 per dol.
So $2 is #2,800.
Stop misleading the reading public!
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by cococandy(f): 10:27am On Jun 29
No truer words have ever been spoken.
Cousin9999:
Americans have been brainwashed into blaming and demonizing each other for what the 1% (mega rich) should be doing. So, they don't vote to establish fair wages under the law. They don't create/join unions to create a fair/safe work environment with appropriate wages and benefits. They don't vote for controlled immigration. They don't vote for controls on the cost of living and a stronger safety net. And they're pathologically racist and vote against anything they believe benefits black people.

Instead they get angry at people for being "cheap" or "broke" or even hating poor people when they don't tip. And they blame them for why they can't pay their bills. There used to be a time in America when a waitress could afford an apartment just from being a waitress, not a nice apartment, but still decent housing. The 1% destroyed that.

They claim that unions are full of lazy people. They ignore how the 1% carefully crushed unions.

They claim rampant illegal immigration doesn't displace millions of Americans from decent paying jobs. They claim people are imagining it or making it up. Yet whenever those places get raided, magically Americans are working there. And Indians have all but invaded America in the last 15 years to fill fabricated shortages. Engineers have struggled with getting jobs for decades. Americans were told to get IT education, they did and now they can't get jobs and are getting laid off by the thousands.

They vote against more and denser housing, which makes affordable, decent housing available to everyone, and close to jobs and essential services. They vote against development of more public transportation, which would reduce the cost of living and make employment and services more accessible for everyone. They're anti "welfare," which elderly, sick, unemployed, and others need.

They're obsessed with black people not having anything to the point that they will vote against their own interests to prevent it. There are white people with major health problems who cannot work that are losing access to healthcare, food, and housing benefits because they voted for Trump. Toni Morrison talks about the deleterious effect of the profound psychosis known as racism. This is one of the motivations behind these behaviors. Some of it is probably also their neanderthal DNA.

ETA: They vote against the 1% paying taxes, which would probably clear all of America's debt and finance a bunch of stuff the country desperately needs.
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by brain54(m): 11:20am On Jun 29
Zonefree:
@bolded
Abi the village in you?

Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Kobojunkie: 12:19pm On Jun 29
Pacesetter123:
Between 15 and 20 %?
Anything that has a benchmark is no longer voluntary.
Tipping should be voluntary,but when you placed a cap,then you make it involuntary which is not proper.
It is voluntary.🤔
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Pacesetter123(m): 1:06pm On Jun 29
OlujobaSamuel:
It's never a Nigerian thing ooo. Although I rarely give to security dudes, but I do give attendants or cashier.
The reason why I don't give them is due to the way they treat people at times. They can rubbish you for a big car that might be driven by a messenger
grin grin grin grin grin
Your last line though!
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by OlujobaSamuel: 1:17pm On Jun 29
Pacesetter123:
grin grin grin grin grin
Your last line though!
One don vex me before like dat, I was checking my wallet for a token to tip him, na so this Escalade entered, the dude just started shouting at me to leave, sey I no Sabi drive, blah blah blah, not knowing it was his own I dey do. Na so I dropped my wallet, the so called Escalade was now obstructing me, so I can't leave until he leaves, the guy rolled down window, person give am item and he zoomed off. Seeing the guy, you go don know sey na driver or messenger, the security com dey ask me anything for the boys, oga no vex, nothing dey ground oo. I just zoomed too
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Skydivine: 1:35pm On Jun 29
Pacesetter123:
Then if there is this kind of understanding about tipping system even in developed nation like the US,why do we always make it look as if it is a Nigeria thing?
People go to media houses or make videos and post in social media to castigate Airport workers,police on checkpoint,supermarket and hotel securities and bar Waiters for being notorious for "Corporate Begging".
They try to make us know that such "bad" culture can never never be seen in saner climes.
So,is the US or Canada no longer saner climes?
Though I don't support a culture of making tippings look compulsory or be like a constitutional rights that you must give for services provided,but I think it is appropriate to "appreciate" some lowly paid workers in some corporate environments VOLUNTARILY for services rendered to you.
I went to a supermarket for my weekend stuff last week,I picked a basket and was going round to pick stuff.One of the staff there,a young lady, just walked up to me and said, Sir,let me help you with the basket.
She carried the basket and followed me around the supermarket till I finished picking what I wanted and she took it to the counter.
I finished paying,she greeted me bye without asking for anything.
I was the one,out of appreciation ,who called her and voluntarily gifted her something.Cos to me,she deserves it.

So my point is that,as from today that I am hearing this news, nobody should make corporate begging a Nigerian thing again.
If any staff in an airport, supermarket, restaurant,etc ask you for a tip,if you want to give, give and if you don't want to,pass and go your way.They won't beat you.
Stop shouting in every news media that people beg you for tips only in Nigeria that you can't see such a thing in America or Europe when you haven't left the shores of Nigeria before.
This message is only for those that always make this unfounded comparison.
Sir, your point is clear but some of it are generalized. In the US, no government employee whether it’s the airport worker or the police will ask you for tips. It could even lead to job termination. If you offer, believe me, you are setting yourself up for an arrest.
Tips are mostly offered at privately owned businesses, especially in service oriented businesses. Not even in trading stores like supermarkets or grocery stores. It is unimaginable to hear anything about tips in places like Costco, Walmart, HEB , CVS or BJs. At these places mentioned, you would be surprised that even if you give out of good will, the employee will decline. That is the difference with what they do in Nigeria.
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by emmy512(m): 1:50pm On Jun 29
lagonovo:
The same thing happened to my friend Linus in 1991 cool
Lol, i had to go check my dashboard and turns out it was 2021 sef.

this was just 2 years after i started fiverr and i have never gotten tips talkless of something huge, i think because of the things i got exposed to and the good work. that was a 20% tip just like that

before he gave me this job he asked if i was a christian and i said i'm not a church person, he then asked what i think about working for a gay person and company, and i told him i dont care.

I still be Linus or Mba?

Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by emmy512(m): 1:56pm On Jun 29
Amalekki:
Tipping is only for specific services. Are you sure you didn't make this up? grin
Lol, i had to go check my dashboard and turns out it was 2021 sef (how time flies).

this was just 2 years after i started fiverr and i have never gotten tips talkless of something huge, i think because of the things i got exposed to and the good work. that was a 20% tip just like that

before he gave me this job he asked if i was a christian and i said i'm not a church person, he then asked what i think about working for a gay person and company, and i told him i dont care.

I still be Linus or Mba?

Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Eniolohunda: 2:10pm On Jun 29
madridguy:
weird" when buying a bottle of water and "they try to get a tip for doing nothing".
You can't go to a restaurant for just a bottle of water. You'd rather go for a full meal. Most times you can't even get bottle water in restaurants, You'd rather get water from dispensers including drinks, so you can drink what size of cup you choose. In most restaurant in the US you can drink as much cups of drink and water as you want.
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Kobojunkie: 2:18pm On Jun 29
Pacesetter123:
➜Then if there is this kind of understanding about tipping system even in developed nation like the US,why do we always make it look as if it is a Nigeria thing? People go to media houses or make videos and post in social media to castigate Airport workers,police on checkpoint,supermarket and hotel securities and bar Waiters for being notorious for "Corporate Begging".
➜ They try to make us know that such "bad" culture can never never be seen in saner climes. So,is the US or Canada no longer saner climes?
Though I don't support a culture of making tippings look compulsory or be like a constitutional rights that you must give for services provided,but I think it is appropriate to "appreciate" some lowly paid workers in some corporate environments VOLUNTARILY for services rendered to you.
➜ I went to a supermarket for my weekend stuff last week,I picked a basket and was going round to pick stuff.One of the staff there,a young lady, just walked up to me and said, Sir,let me help you with the basket. She carried the basket and followed me around the supermarket till I finished picking what I wanted and she took it to the counter. I finished paying,she greeted me bye without asking for anything. I was the one,out of appreciation ,who called her and voluntarily gifted her something. Cos to me,she deserves it.
➜ So my point is that,as from today that I am hearing this news, nobody should make corporate begging a Nigerian thing again. If any staff in an airport, supermarket, restaurant,etc ask you for a tip,if you want to give, give and if you don't want to,pass and go your way.They won't beat you.
➜ Stop shouting in every news media that people beg you for tips only in Nigeria that you can't see such a thing in America or Europe when you haven't left the shores of Nigeria before. This message is only for those who always make this unfounded comparison.
1. What you have in Nigeria is not the same as this tipping culture, which is regulated in the U.S Department of Labor.

2. Basically, tipping culture in "Saner climes" is government-regulated, voluntary, and almost non-predatory compared to that which you find in Nigeria. undecided

3. From your story, are we to guess that the lady in question is an employee of the supermarket and her job is to help carry baskets around? If that is the case, does the establishment implement a tipping system? Or did you just assume that maybe her pay depended on your tipping her for the time she spent following you around the store? I am not certain how you arrived at comparing that situation to the one in, say, the US. Or Canada. undecided

4. Your point is moot! Again, tipping culture is not implemented by all businesses in the U.S. or Canada. For instance, you do not go to the hospital to tip your nurse or doctor; your mechanic, airport worker, or police do the same. In such cases, your "tips" may be considered taxable gifts or bribes. undecided

5. Nigerian begging, or the "Oga, find me something, abeg!" culture is not the tipping culture we dey discuss for here! undecided
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Pacesetter123(m): 3:48pm On Jun 29
Kobojunkie:
1. What you have in Nigeria is not the same as this tipping culture, which is regulated in the U.S Department of Labor.

2. Basically, tipping culture in "Saner climes" is government-regulated, voluntary, and almost non-predatory compared to that which you find in Nigeria. undecided

3. From your story, are we to guess that the lady in question is an employee of the supermarket and her job is to help carry baskets around? If that is the case, does the establishment implement a tipping system? Or did you just assume that maybe her pay depended on your tipping her for the time she spent following you around the store? I am not certain how you arrived at comparing that situation to the one in, say, the US. Or Canada. undecided

4. Your point is moot! Again, tipping culture is not implemented by all businesses in the U.S. or Canada. For instance, you do not go to the hospital to tip your nurse or doctor; your mechanic, airport worker, or police do the same. In such cases, your "tips" may be considered taxable gifts or bribes. undecided

5. Nigerian begging, or the "Oga, find me something, abeg!" culture is not the tipping culture we dey discuss for here! undecided
It is the same thing.
Whether Nigeria, Canada or US, tipping or expectation of it after service rendered is still tipping.
The begging you are talking about in your point 5 is not what we are talking about here too.
That one is for politicians and their Loyalists or a policeman on the road.
"Oga find me something,Oga your boys are loyal..oo,Oga I dey hail..oo" is not what we are talking about here.
Those ones are not called tippings.
The one I am talking about here is, you go a restaurant for instance,the server come to your and greeted you very politely,then begin to list what they have in their menu in a very courteous and snappy manner.
because of how courteous she/he was , couple with the fact that you already know how meagre her salary might be, you just gifted her a little money or leave a balance of your bill for her out of appreciation for the nice services rendered.
That is what we call tipping.
Then in the case of the supermarket girl I was talking about,she is one of the staff there.
They are like 4 or 5 in numbers and are found inside in different row of the half since it's a large supermarket.Their work there is to help customers identify the row they can quickly find some items if such a customer ask for it.They also help in bringing the goods from inner warehouse for a restock.
So for her to help me carry the basket,it was just out of courtesy and good customer relations.It wasn't her statutory duty.
So,I have to appreciate her voluntarily.
And it is the same thing the article was saying about the tipping system in the US.
In short,theirs was even more weird than some of Nigeria own.
Like somebody buying a bottle of water in a shop and the sale girl ask you for a tip like one of the football fans was telling the BBC.
So whether it is government regulated or not,serving in some certain establishment like Bar,Hotel, Supermarket,Banks, Airport,etc and asking, expecting or collecting a "gifts" after service is tipping no matter how look at it.
And like I said earlier, tipping such class of workers is not bad.
But what I will condemn is making it compulsory.
It should be voluntary.
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by lagonovo: 3:57pm On Jun 29
That's cool, I remember now that it was my friend St Paul not Linus cool


Fiverr is also about services so tips are normal. You did not lie.

emmy512:
Lol, i had to go check my dashboard and turns out it was 2021 sef.

this was just 2 years after i started fiverr and i have never gotten tips talkless of something huge, i think because of the things i got exposed to and the good work. that was a 20% tip just like that

before he gave me this job he asked if i was a christian and i said i'm not a church person, he then asked what i think about working for a gay person and company, and i told him i dont care.

I still be Linus or Mba?
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Cousin9999: 5:13pm On Jun 29
QuinQQ:
I bet no Nigerian who actually lives in America will agree with you. Just like visiting WC fans are surprised what a wonderful country US is!
I live in America. And I never said it was a s**thole. But it has real problems. And many of these problems are part of a global issue. The 1%.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caBDPFx2et4?is=YRCmUz0lo_W9Ndw6
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Kobojunkie: 5:38pm On Jun 29
Pacesetter123:
It is the same thing. Whether Nigeria, Canada or US, tipping or expectation of it after service rendered is still tipping....
This already tells me you are wrong, but you seem deadset on claiming that a legally defined voluntary tipping contract is the same as any random, unmetered, and unregulated notion of tipping, so no point. undecided
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by QuinQQ: 6:07pm On Jun 29
Cousin9999:
I live in America. And I never said it was a s**thole. But it has real problems. And many of these problems are part of a global issue. The 1%.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caBDPFx2et4?is=YRCmUz0lo_W9Ndw6
An obvious lie.😅
No Nigerian who lives in US will write what you wrote
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Cousin9999: 6:29pm On Jun 29
QuinQQ:
An obvious lie.😅
No Nigerian who lives in US will write what you wrote
Stop trolling, bro. 🙄
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by QuinQQ: 7:12pm On Jun 29
Cousin9999:
Stop trolling, bro. 🙄
Trolling what? How is NEPA structured in US? How about federal universities? Hospitals? Credit? Police?😂
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by Revolva(m): 8:00pm On Jun 29
PulaPower:
In the US, staff at some restaurants and bars are paid just over $2 (£1.50) an hour, and they expect customers to tip about 20% of the total cost of the bill so they can earn a living.

Frustrations have also been shared by hospitality staff, with one bar owner telling the BBC that many World Cup tourists have been bad tippers.


Lol..

Alman-Jiri USA version. The level of poverty in USA is alarming. Instead of their president to focus on that, he’s busy wasting money on frivolities..

You won’t know how overrated USA is until you arrived there. All those propaganda you do read on their media go first of all clear for your eye..
See this one ...it's not by force to tip but they do that to encourage workers....una no de ever reason before writing

An average American can afford anytin in life .....the tourist that came for the worldcup have praised America and many of them have apologized for the bad remark of what the media have always shown them ..now go on YouTube and see positive remarks ...and cultural shock of so many good sides of America
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by iykololo(m): 12:48am On Jun 30
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by PDPGuy: 1:49am On Jun 30
iykololo:
Abegistan 2
Exactly 😂
Re: World Cup Fans Frustrated By 'confusing And Expensive' Tipping Culture In US by CaptainIgbo: 3:09am On Jun 30
MadamDMadam:
It’s not as compulsory as the media portrays it to be. I only tipped those who gave great service and I wasn’t harassed or called out by those I didn’t tip. For reference, in New York and Miami.
It's not compulsory, but it is good for the worker, since they are often paid below minimum wage with the assumption that they will be tipped by customers. Also, tipping well can improve your level of service if you are a repeat customer. It's important to keep in mind that tipping is what actually pays the staff serving you.
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