₦airaland Forum

Brendaniel:
The moment you realize you are dealing with a combination of dangerous ideologies, you will know why some certain set of people do not want someone like Peter Obi to become president and why they also hate his tribe...

What you wrote, it's like you just wrote one of the speeches I've had in mind...

You sha want to package a fraud for us. This is travel section and not politics. Stop messing up the thread.

motymop:
i lived most of my life abroad and believe me i dont want to live in an hostile environment or anywhere in EUROPE and asia

my best country till date is the USA

The US can be hostile too. Mostly depends on which part of the US you find yourself in.

opera1:
Your number 2 point is totally false as no medical Dr earn 250k.

I usually do not have time to argue with people who are too lazy or docile to carry out simple research.

sigmax:
This post says much without addressing the issue . We can't all Japa and we need to build our country to prevent future japa.

National loyalty transcend individual gains ,we see how citizens stay in their country during hard times ,example includes recent war in Iran against 11 countries,it got to a point they were even threatened with nuke but their resolved wasn't broken ,the same applies to USA against British colonialists .

If we can't all collectively fight for our country because the odds are not in our favour,then who will ?

Fight with who?

All the examples you mentioned were external aggression, Nigeria is not fighting any external country, Nigeria is fighting a war within itself, and when I mean war, it is not just the insecurity, but education, politics, economical, tribal, religious and so on.

And the reason is we don;t share the same ideologies as regions, how can a country that disagrees on almost everything regionally, politically and religiously work together to build it...

There is a bigger problem than just building it, there is no unity of purpose, we don't share the same ideology...

sigmax:
This post says much without addressing the issue . We can't all Japa and we need to build our country to prevent future japa.

National loyalty transcend individual gains ,we see how citizens stay in their country during hard times ,example includes recent war in Iran against 11 countries,it got to a point they were even threatened with nuke but their resolved wasn't broken ,the same applies to USA against British colonialists .

If we can't all collectively fight for our country because the odds are not in our favour,then who will ?

Building the country must start from the leaders and it will go down to everyone. If the masses want to build the nation without their leaders leading the way, it leads nowhere. Can you explain one way you can build the nation?

Goodvibes007:
You sha want to package a fraud for us. This is travel section and not politics. Stop messing up the thread.

That's why Nigeria is currently the way it is under the one you people claim is not a packaged fraud...

chopnaira:
Yes. I am free to support whoever I like. That's why it is called a democracy.
Something that is difficult for members of a cult group like obidients to understand.

More like saying democracy is justification to support stupdtee and wickedness...

Brendaniel:
That's why Nigeria is currently the way it is under the one you people claim is not a packaged fraud...

If he cant build a small state like Anambra, how would he be able to build a country 🤔
Common sense 101.

Rapmoney:
It is obvious that Nigeria as a country has lost most of her best brains to the economies of other countries in Europe, North America, Australia, and even Asia. Every year, seasoned professionals leave in droves in what we normally call the 'Japa Syndrome'. Many brilliant medical practitioners, bright engineers, wonderful accountants, astute technicians, and outstanding educators have left. They did not leave because they hated Nigeria, but they did not want to get stuck in an environment where their skills and expertise are usually rewarded with peanuts.

If you don't want a tree to grow, you must start from the roots, and not the trunk, branches, leaves, or fruits. This is the case with Nigeria and the Japa Syndrome. Whenever the government want to fight a problem, they start from the trunk, branches, leaves, and fruits, instead of the roots. Spending huge amounts of funds on Anti-Japa programmes on National TV and radio will never solve the issue. Making long speeches and organising endless seminars will never solve the problem.
The brain drain and japa syndrome will continue in Nigeria due to the following reasons:

1. The 'Stay back and build Nigeria' is an illusion. It is easy to ask Nigerian youths to stay back and build Nigeria, but the young ones are not blind. They can clearly see how the people who keep telling them to stay back and build are coordinating themselves and the affairs of the country. Public officials embezzle outrageous amounts of funds meant for development and nothing is done. In fact, they still contest elections and force themselves into elective offices, and you still expect the youths to stay back and build? Build on what exactly? Isn't it pure madness that the people who control the resources to build are squandering the same resources, while still asking young people to stay back and build?

2. Better renumeration in the western world: I have seen highly skilled individuals in Nigeria receiving peanuts as salaries. Imagine a medical doctor, after years of strenuous training receiving 250k as salary! A data scientist receiving 120k as salary! A seasoned teacher with an MEd receiving 80k as salary. If these people don't leave, they might continue to go round in the vicious circle that has been created by the system and die wretched. The authorities do not care!

3. The increasing level of insecurity in the country : There are a lot of Nigerians who relocated, and others who are planning to relocate, not because of increase in pay or making more money, but to be in an environment where they can move freely at anytime of the day without fear of being kidnapped or killed by terrorists. It is as terrible as that. People can no longer move freely from Benin to Lagos, from Onitsha to Ondo, from Katsina to Abuja, from Kogi to Osun. It is a huge slap on Nigeria as a country. It is a core duty of the government to protect its citizens, and not the other way round. If you don't know this as an adult, your education is a total waste!

4. Better education for their children : The educational system in Nigeria needs total overhauling. What Nigeria currently has is a carade. It is a caricature of education. An education that teaches children what to think instead of how to think is a huge problem. Many Nigerians want better education for their children, so moving out becomes non-negotiable. The policy makers are more concerned with changing the NYSC uniform to Ankara!

5. Ridiculously low human capital development : Real development goes beyond construction of coastal roads. What is real development? Real development is what the average citizen does, what he earns in a month, and the things that his earnings can fetch for him in the market. That is where you start from. That is human capital development. That must come first before we begin to talk about other things like coastal roads and the rest. You put the horse before the cart, and not the other way round. What concerns the average Chinedu, Aliyu, Adewale, or Rukevwe with coastal roads when he has no light to power his small business? You can only transport goods through coastal roads if you are producing. Is the environment conducive to produce? The government focuses more on survival than on human capital development.

Last take: I have chosen not to be politically right. And it is deliberate, because I have observed that things go astray because many of us always want to be politically right. We see spades, and call them spoons. Before you argue with me, go and do a thorough research on the Social Contract of modern nations. You will discover that there are so many areas your government cheats you on. Providing security and a conducive environment for economic activities is not and has never been your duty. Most people are just politically miseducated.

Immigration is a natural human phenomenon.
The reasons you provided contribute to it, but it will still happen without them.

Despite our population, Nigeria ranks 25th globally in terms of emigrant population. We are just very loud about it.
Developed countries like Russia rank 5th , United Kingdom is 13th, Germany is 16th, Italy is 20th. Despite their lower populations, they still have more people living in other countries.

Brendaniel:
More like saying democracy is justification to support stupdtee and wickedness...

Thats your own wahala.

According to your logic, its also wickedness for an obidient to be living in Lagos or Port Harcourt instead of living in the "Dubai" that your peter obi built.

timbabng:
Immigration is a natural human phenomenon.
The reasons you provided contribute to it, but it will still happen without them.

Despite our population, Nigeria ranks 25th globally in terms of emigrant population. We are just very loud about it.
Developed countries like Russia rank 5th , United Kingdom is 13th, Germany is 16th, Italy is 20th. Despite their lower populations, they still have more people living in other countries.

I score you 100 percent.

Brendaniel:
Fight with who?

All the examples you mentioned were external aggression, Nigeria is not fighting any external country, Nigeria is fighting a war within itself, and when I mean war, it is not just the insecurity, but education, politics, economical, tribal, religious and so on.

And the reason is we don;t share the same ideologies as regions, how can a country that disagrees on almost everything regionally, politically and religiously work together to build it...

There is a bigger problem than just building it, there is no unity of purpose, we don't share the same ideology...

And guess who has been weaponizing Tribal and religious politics as far back as when he was Anambra state governor? Answer is your principal.

Goodvibes007:
If he cant build a small state like Anambra, how would he be able to build a country 🤔
Common sense 101.

Because Tinubu built Lagos from the ocean, there was no Lagos before 1999, it was all ocean, other people rejected becoming governor of Lagos, only Tinubu took up the courage and started building it from scratch and today Lagos became the most developed state in Nigeria abi? that's why you prefer him to Obi abi?

Spot on 💯

Goodvibes007:
And guess who has been weaponizing Tribal and religious politics as far back as when he was Anambra state governor? Answer is your principal.

The last time I checked, Igbos were attacked in Lagos for exercising their constitutional rights of voting, please show me where any other tribe was attacked in Anambra for doing the same...

chopnaira:
Thats your own wahala.

According to your logic, its also wickedness for an obidient to be living in Lagos or Port Harcourt instead of living in the "Dubai" that your peter obi built.

Why can't an Igbo live in Lagos?

Any person is free to live anywhere in Nigeria, so what exactly is your point?

Is that your justification to be irrational and stoop d to support wickedness and evil against your fellow Africans while you stay in foreign land ?

Brendaniel:
The last time I checked, Igbos were attacked in Lagos for exercising their constitutional rights of voting, please show me where any other tribe was attacked in Anambra for doing the same...

And igbos attacked others in the SE too. Infact, the SE where Obi is from had more election violence.

https://x.com/i/status/2015879917540651116

Brendaniel:
Why can't an Igbo live in Lagos?

Any person is free to live anywhere in Nigeria, so what exactly is your point?

Is that your justification to be irrational and stoop d to support wickedness and evil against your fellow Africans while you stay in foreign land ?

That means I am also free to live wherever I want. This simple concept should not be diffult for you to understand.

chopnaira:
That means I am also free to live wherever I want. This simple concept should not be diffult for you to understand.

Yes, but that does not mean you should be wicked and heartless to your fellow Africans you left in Nigeria...

Except you want to tell me you hate them...

what's wrong with 250k salary ?

One day I’ll explain why it really isn’t much a brain drain.

A little, yes. Not much.

It’s more like an awakening for those who leave. They get to become better versions of themselves because of established systems that reward hardwork.

Brendaniel:
Yes, but that does not mean you should be wicked and heartless to your fellow Africans you left in Nigeria...

Except you want to tell me you hate them...

According to your logic. Same way you are heartless to your fellow obidients you left in Anambra, aka peter Obi's Dubai.

Goodvibes007:
And igbos attacked others in the SE too. Infact, the SE where Obi is from had more election violence.

https://x.com/i/status/2015879917540651116

It is like you have a problem with English or you have a problem with comprehension or both...

I said Igbos were specifically attacked in Lagos, and here you are bringing general election violence, where in the report did you see any tribe attacked like they did in Lagos?

When I call you people irrational thinkers, you people think I just want insult you people, but I'm only giving my sincere observation...

chopnaira:
According to your logic. Same way you are heartless to your fellow obidients you left in Anambra, aka peter Obi's Dubai.

Is Peter Obi the one ruling Anambra today like Tinubu is ruling Nigeria you support?

I hope you are seriously ok?

If he was ruling Anambra today, I may have considered your statement to be a little bit rational

Soludo is the governor, sorry to say but you don't sound like someone who is thinking rationally...

DickenClarq:
I guess what is happening in South Africa has not yet teach Nigerians a lesson.

Even the TACO Orange Man Baby Trump started a Crusade of chasing migrants but was distracted by the Iran war and then the world cup.


Dear Nigerians let us fix our country together in our own little way.

JAPA CAN NEVER BE THE SOLUTION You can never be at peace knowing fully well that your parents, siblings, relatives and friends
are facing difficulties back home (billings and endless demands will make you run crazy). Also all those I knew that Japa returned back to find peace in Nigeria when they became old, So I keep asking is they no peace abroad for them to have?.

Black sport players, doctors, engineers etc. that are citizens of some European countries still face racial insults and treatments.

Just like South Africa, one day a group of jobless racist white vampires will rise and demand that all blacks are sent packing from their country (Illegally or legally ). Many RADICAL RACIAL groups in U.S, U.K and Europe are gradually springing up daily but are still laying low for now.

Do you know that politicians in Europe are now using anti-migration as a campaign to win election.
As a politician in Europe just mistakenly say you will open doors to migrants, encourage migration or protect migrants, and watch yourself lose badly in the polls.


May God help us

It is better to face racial insults than to live in a failed state like Nigeria.

Nigerians with Japa money are picking that everyday.

Goodvibes007:
The US can be hostile too. Mostly depends on which part of the US you find yourself in.

Europeans are more hostile and they can be very cunning and diplomatic when dealing with you

many europeans do believe the black people can not think abstractly

they can even say you are brillant and then stylishly say, you know black people do not have ability for abstract thinking...if you like report, nothing will happen.

also, there arent many successful black people in Europe compare to the USA..maybe in the UK, there are few but in Europe, you hardly see one and it is not a motivation

for indians it is easy for them because some of these european countries have a deal with india, that is why it is easy for them to build wealth in many european countries, UK, canada and the US

atleast the US still reward black people

what deal they have with india?
importing their shit?

motymop:
Europeans are more hostile and they can be very cunning and diplomatic when dealing with you

many europeans do believe the black people can not think abstractly

they can even say you are brillant and then stylishly say, you know black people do not have ability for abstract thinking...if you like report, nothing will happen.

also, there arent many successful black people in Europe compare to the USA..maybe in the UK, there are few but in Europe, you hardly see one and it is not a motivation

for indians it is easy for them because some of these european countries have a deal with india, that is why it is easy for them to build wealth in many european countries, UK, canada and the US

atleast the US still reward black people

sigmax:
This post says much without addressing the issue . We can't all Japa and we need to build our country to prevent future japa.

National loyalty transcend individual gains ,we see how citizens stay in their country during hard times ,example includes recent war in Iran against 11 countries,it got to a point they were even threatened with nuke but their resolved wasn't broken ,the same applies to USA against British colonialists .

If we can't all collectively fight for our country because the odds are not in our favour,then who will ?

Smartest comment ever. It's the reason those whites don't take us seriously.

Mention one successful 100% black country, and you can't find anyone.

The black man is always seeking for ready made, where they just go and enjoy. They don't want to suffer and build.

You migrate in droves to a white man country when you're not even at war, yet to cry racism.

Goodvibes007:
You sha want to package a fraud for us. This is travel section and not politics. Stop messing up the thread.

You're accusing someone of detailing the thread but you're the one detailing the thread with rubbish ethnic posts

Honestly? I think your head is paining you.

1. Stay back and build Nigeria is not an illusion. Nobody is going to build your country for you except you.

2. Better remuneration outside Nigeria exposed you as a child who prefer your friends mama soup than your own mama. So you converted foreign money to naira without expenses and start to tickle yourself. In Scandinavian and Eastern countries, doctors and your so called highly skilled are not the highest paid. How many doctors in Switzerland, Sweden or Norway despite U.S encouragement Japa? Do know how many Canadian doctors went to US and decided to return home, even with less pay.

Go and find out about Indian doctors protests in Britain for posting to rural areas, overworked and underpaid unlike their British colleagues. Nigerian doctors suck it up and brag to those at home.


3. I agree with you that insecurity is getting unbearable. But how many people can afford to desert their crime invested areas in the US, Europe or India?

4. Better Education. Now you have gone totally colo. Have you ever had of Mis-Education used to create Nepo-children, drain the Central Bank, launder most of our foreign income while local schools deteriorate? Most schools in Europe and America are going belly up because of restrictions on immigration. They are starved of Mumu money from foreign students and advocotes like you.

Every country build culture, history and traditional science into their schools except Africans who think Oxford and Harvard educated "experts" are the solutions to their problems. No wonder our politicians and their cronies cart billion away looking for millions in foreign salvation!

5. Low human development complain from someone advocating better foreign education, neglecting human development at home. Cover your head in shame!

Politically correct? Most of your politicians looting you blind were trained abroad.

Most of the Activists that built the same country that is now scattered by by your warped logic, left everything abroad and came home. The same with the professors that made your university attractive to foreigners in those days.

Go suck a lemon!

Rapmoney:
It is obvious that Nigeria as a country has lost most of her best brains to the economies of other countries in Europe, North America, Australia, and even Asia. Every year, seasoned professionals leave in droves in what we normally call the 'Japa Syndrome'. Many brilliant medical practitioners, bright engineers, wonderful accountants, astute technicians, and outstanding educators have left. They did not leave because they hated Nigeria, but they did not want to get stuck in an environment where their skills and expertise are usually rewarded with peanuts.

If you don't want a tree to grow, you must start from the roots, and not the trunk, branches, leaves, or fruits. This is the case with Nigeria and the Japa Syndrome. Whenever the government want to fight a problem, they start from the trunk, branches, leaves, and fruits, instead of the roots. Spending huge amounts of funds on Anti-Japa programmes on National TV and radio will never solve the issue. Making long speeches and organising endless seminars will never solve the problem.
The brain drain and japa syndrome will continue in Nigeria due to the following reasons:

1. The 'Stay back and build Nigeria' is an illusion. It is easy to ask Nigerian youths to stay back and build Nigeria, but the young ones are not blind. They can clearly see how the people who keep telling them to stay back and build are coordinating themselves and the affairs of the country. Public officials embezzle outrageous amounts of funds meant for development and nothing is done. In fact, they still contest elections and force themselves into elective offices, and you still expect the youths to stay back and build? Build on what exactly? Isn't it pure madness that the people who control the resources to build are squandering the same resources, while still asking young people to stay back and build?

2. Better renumeration in the western world: I have seen highly skilled individuals in Nigeria receiving peanuts as salaries. Imagine a medical doctor, after years of strenuous training receiving 250k as salary! A data scientist receiving 120k as salary! A seasoned teacher with an MEd receiving 80k as salary. If these people don't leave, they might continue to go round in the vicious circle that has been created by the system and die wretched. The authorities do not care!

3. The increasing level of insecurity in the country : There are a lot of Nigerians who relocated, and others who are planning to relocate, not because of increase in pay or making more money, but to be in an environment where they can move freely at anytime of the day without fear of being kidnapped or killed by terrorists. It is as terrible as that. People can no longer move freely from Benin to Lagos, from Onitsha to Ondo, from Katsina to Abuja, from Kogi to Osun. It is a huge slap on Nigeria as a country. It is a core duty of the government to protect its citizens, and not the other way round. If you don't know this as an adult, your education is a total waste!

4. Better education for their children : The educational system in Nigeria needs total overhauling. What Nigeria currently has is a carade. It is a caricature of education. An education that teaches children what to think instead of how to think is a huge problem. Many Nigerians want better education for their children, so moving out becomes non-negotiable. The policy makers are more concerned with changing the NYSC uniform to Ankara!

5. Ridiculously low human capital development : Real development goes beyond construction of coastal roads. What is real development? Real development is what the average citizen does, what he earns in a month, and the things that his earnings can fetch for him in the market. That is where you start from. That is human capital development. That must come first before we begin to talk about other things like coastal roads and the rest. You put the horse before the cart, and not the other way round. What concerns the average Chinedu, Aliyu, Adewale, or Rukevwe with coastal roads when he has no light to power his small business? You can only transport goods through coastal roads if you are producing. Is the environment conducive to produce? The government focuses more on survival than on human capital development.

Last take: I have chosen not to be politically right. And it is deliberate, because I have observed that things go astray because many of us always want to be politically right. We see spades, and call them spoons. Before you argue with me, go and do a thorough research on the Social Contract of modern nations. You will discover that there are so many areas your government cheats you on. Providing security and a conducive environment for economic activities is not and has never been your duty. Most people are just politically miseducated.

Nteogwuija:
Smartest comment ever. It's the reason those whites don't take us seriously.

Mention one successful 100% black country, and you can't find anyone.

The black man is always seeking for ready made, where they just go and enjoy. They don't want to suffer and build.

You migrate in droves to a white man country when you're not even at war, yet to cry racism.

If you like suffer and die in Nigeria. That's your business. We don't care. Na Una be the same fake patriotic Nigerians wen dey support the thieves in government to destroy the country.