₦airaland Forum

King David committed murder, covetousness and adultery in the Bible but God forgave him when he repented.

Also the people of Nineveh, that Jonah was sent to, repented and we're forgiven without any blood!

So why can't God forgive Adam for his disobedience and others today if they repent?

God doesn't exist

AntiChristian:
King David committed murder, covetousness and adultery in the Bible but God forgave him when he repented.

Also the people of Nineveh, that Jonah was sent to, repented and we're forgiven without any blood!

So why can't God forgive Adam for his disobedience and others today if they repent?

There is action and reaction (equal and opposite).

Nineveh was later destroyed (in another generation).

David suffered at the hands of his own son (Absalom). All his poor decisions had negative repercussions for him and people around him.

Do not be deceived. God is not mocked. Whatever you sow, you shall reap! (Galatians 6:7-8 )

AntiChristian:
King David committed murder, covetousness and adultery in the Bible but God forgave him when he repented.

Also the people of Nineveh, that Jonah was sent to, repented and we're forgiven without any blood!

So why can't God forgive Adam for his disobedience and others today if they repent?

You are lying David was punished for his sins and Nineveh was probably a good place before they started sinning hence they got a warning that punishment was coming if they don't change.

Same thing for Adam who was even specially warned.

So, many things go into the exercise of the prerogative of mercy

AntiChristian:
King David committed murder, covetousness and adultery in the Bible but God forgave him when he repented.

Also the people of Nineveh, that Jonah was sent to, repented and we're forgiven without any blood!

So why can't God forgive Adam for his disobedience and others today if they repent?

You mean the same god that planted the tree and gave the serpent access to the garden?
How can he forgive Adam when his plan was to set him up for failure?
That's like asking why bandits can't stop terrorising people.

AntiChristian:
Why can't God forgive Adam for his disobedience?

Adam sinned against the holy spirit and such sin is unforgivable! Matthew 12:31-32

Before God created Eve Adam was lonely {Genesis 2:18} and when God made Eve Adam rejoice greatly he even became a poet instantly to show his heartfelt gratitude for the precious gift! Genesis 2:23 compare to Proverbs 18:22

So how did his own sin differ from that of all other people?

First of all unlike all other humans who are learned from the mouth of angels or mouth to mouth instructors called prophets God is the one instructing Adam directly like a father talking to his son {Luke 3:38} but none of us has seen God at any point in time {John 1:18} so when Adam disobeyed God he had no excuse which most humans today have as there are thousands of different sources of information all claiming they are God's mouthpiece.

Secondly after Adam committed that blunder he never accepted his error instead he put the blame on God saying it's God's fault for giving him a wife! Genesis 3:10-12

Lastly the motive behind his action also needs to be considered. Adam knew that in a short time humans will fill the planet {Genesis 1:28} so he wanted to become like God to all other humans so even though Eve was deceived that they will become immortal after eating the forbidden fruit Adam wasn't he just wanted to play smart thinking if he die it's God's lost after all it's God who wanted worshipers on earth therefore if God kill him that purpose will be shattered. 1Timothy 2:14

So God declared in Adam's presence that humans will surely live forever on this planet but unlike Adam they will be OBEDIENT humans. Moreover if God destroy Adam instantly he will not see the promise becoming a reality so when God accepted Abel's offering both Adam, Eve and Cain got the message that Abel surely is the beginning of that generation of faithful loyal and obedient descendants of man one that will inherit God's everlasting blessings {Hebrews 11:4} and live forever on planet earth! Psalms 37:29

Dtruthspeaker:
You are lying David was punished for his sins and Nineveh was probably a good place before they started sinning jence they got a warning that punishment was coming if they don't change.

Same thing for Adam who was even specially warned.

So, many things go into the exercise of the prerogative of mercy

I am lying. Tell us what was David's punishment for killing Uriah? For Adultery? For Covetousness?

Nineveh was warned and they changed. They were forgiven without anyone dying for them.

Why can't Adam be warned too so he can ask for forgiveness?

HeatSeeker:
There is action and reaction (equal and opposite).

Nineveh was later destroyed (in another generation).

So that generation was still forgiven.

David suffered at the hands of his own son (Absalom). All his poor decisions had negative repercussions for him and people around him.

Do not be deceived. God is not mocked. Whatever you sow, you shall reap! (Galatians 6:7-8 )

Are you saying David's suffering at the hands of his son the punishment for his murder, covetousness and adultery?

AntiChristian:
Are you saying David's suffering at the hands of his son the punishment for his murder, covetousness and adultery?

It was a fallout from his reprehensible actions.

AntiChristian:
I am lying. Tell us what was David's punishment for killing Uriah? For Adultery? For Covetousness?

In case you want to pretend that you did not see it, see some of them here.

"And David's anger was greatly kindled against the man; and he said to Nathan, As the Lord liveth, the man that hath done this thing shall surely die:

6 And he shall restore the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing, and because he had no pity.

7 And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;...

9 Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the Lord, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon.

10 Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife.

11 Thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun....

He as a neighbour, bleeped someone's wife in secret, God punished him by making sure his wives were bliped in the open, which you know is even one of the worst things that can happen to a married man.

AntiChristian:
Nineveh was warned and they changed. They were forgiven without anyone dying for them.

Why can't Adam be warned too so he can ask for forgiveness?

Did you you not see and read that Adam was Warned?

Dtruthspeaker:
In case you want to pretend that you did not see it, see some of them here.

"And David's anger was greatly kindled against the man; and he said to Nathan, As the Lord liveth, the man that hath done this thing shall surely die:

6 And he shall restore the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing, and because he had no pity.

7 And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;...

9 Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the Lord, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon.

10 Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife.

11 Thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbour, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun....

He as a neighbour, bleeped someone's wife in secret, God punished him by making sure his wives were bliped in the open, which you know is even one of the worst things that can happen to a married man.

Are you saying God used more killings, adultery and fornication to punish David's adultery and murder?

Did you you not see and read that Adam was Warned?

There's no fairness at all in the Bible's lens of judgement. Why can't Adam just be forgiven? When Judah slept with his daughter in law who pretended like a LovePeddler and got pregnant, where was Yahweh to punish them both? But Onan was killed for spilling the seeds! His brother was also killed for disobidience.

AntiChristian:
➜King David committed murder, covetousness and adultery in the Bible but God forgave him when he repented.
Also the people of Nineveh, that Jonah was sent to, repented and we're forgiven without any blood!
➜ So why can't God forgive Adam for his disobedience and others today if they repent?

➜David attained the status of righteous man of YHWH of Israel - man after YHWH's own heart - meeting YHWH's criteria for blessings in the Law of Moses, and hence had the guarantee of YHWH of Israel's forgiveness of sins.
➜ Assyria, of which Nineveh was a part, was under no national covenant of righteousness with YHWH of Israel

Stop blindly comparing apples and heavy machinery! YHWH of Israel only does for men that which He promised according to His contract with those to whom He made His promise. He isn't under an obligation to do more than that or for anyone else, according to their private delusions.

AntiChristian:
Are you saying God used more killings, adultery and fornication to punish David's adultery and murder?

There's no fairness at all in the Bible's lens of judgement..

Does The Law not say an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, which every reasonable person has called very Just, Fair and Right?

Therefore, as he murdered, murder entered his house and as he adulteried someone's wife, so did they adultery his wife. Just is served. And that is what God is reserving for you and when the time comes, you would eat it without fail. Continue

Kobojunkie:
➜David attained the status of righteous man of YHWH of Israel - man after YHWH's own heart - meeting YHWH's criteria for blessings in the Law of Moses, and hence had the guarantee of YHWH of Israel's forgiveness of sins.

Stop talking rubbish, he had guarantee yet God did not forgive his sin against Uriah and Isreal?

AntiChristian:
➜Are you saying God used more killings, adultery and fornication to punish David's adultery and murder?
➜ There's no fairness at all in the Bible's lens of judgement.
➜ Why can't Adam just be forgiven?
➜ When Judah slept with his daughter in law who pretended like a LovePeddler and got pregnant, where was Yahweh to punish them both? But Onan was killed for spilling the seeds! His brother was also killed for disobidience.

1. Huh??

2. That is probably because you think fairness should be judged through your particular eyes and mind, and not as stipulated right there in the Law of Moses. 😒

3. If you read the Law which was given to Adam, you would note that forgiveness was not mentioned in the clause. Your insistence that forgiveness should exist when it was never stipulated suggests a lack of understanding of agreements/covenants/laws.😒

4. What was the punishment stipulated by the law in existence at the time of the event in question? 😒