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May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by CharlesCNG(op): 9:07am On Jul 08
Tinubu did not create the cancer; he stopped the painkillers and started the chemotherapy.

Those blaming President Tinubu for every hardship in Nigeria today are like people blaming the doctor for the cancer he diagnosed on the first day of treatment.

By May 29, 2023, Nigeria’s economy was already badly damaged. The country was running on expensive fuel subsidy, multiple exchange rates, weak revenue, heavy debt-service pressure, high inflation, oil theft, low investor confidence and a Central Bank that had been used to fund government deficits through Ways and Means.

The IMF had warned before Tinubu’s inauguration that Nigeria’s fuel subsidy should be permanently removed by mid-2023 and that the country’s multiple exchange-rate system was a major source of vulnerability. It also called for reforms in tax compliance, customs, oil theft and revenue mobilisation.

In simple terms, Nigeria was living like a man borrowing money to buy painkillers while refusing to treat the disease.

Fuel subsidy alone was bleeding public finance. The World Bank later estimated that subsidy removal would save about ₦2 trillion in 2023 and over ₦11 trillion by the end of 2025. That means the old system was not free; it was a hidden debt machine.

So when Tinubu came in and removed subsidy, unified FX windows and began revenue reforms, he did not create the crisis. He removed the plaster covering the wound.

Yes, the treatment has been painful. Inflation, transport costs and food prices have hit ordinary Nigerians hard. Government must do more to cushion the vulnerable and convert macro reforms into household relief.

But let nobody rewrite history.

Tinubu inherited a patient already collapsing from years of economic deception. Subsidy was not prosperity. Multiple exchange rates were not stability. Borrowing to consume was not growth.

The real debate is not whether Nigeria was comfortable before Tinubu.

The real debate is whether we should return to the old painkiller politics or continue the painful surgery needed to save the patient.
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by Yorubasarecurse: 9:10am On Jul 08
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by chicfarmer: 9:13am On Jul 08
You go sha explain taya. Nor be the same apc put am for the ICU? lipsrsealed undecided embarassed
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by Yorubasarecurse: 9:16am On Jul 08
Biggest 2026 Budget Scandal, How Fake Presidential Council Gets ₦1 3 Billion by FrankFullStory(op): 7:34am On Jul 02


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PThd-DHJtD4
A man walks into the Federal Secretariat in Abuja. He has an office. A staff of over 300. Nine bank accounts opened in the name of government agencies that... don't exist. He meets ambassadors. He briefs ministers. He represents Nigeria — an entire country — at international conferences.

And somehow, his fake ministry gets written into the national budget. Line item. Page 50. ₦1.3 billion of public money.
Then it gets weirder. He gets arrested. He gets charged. And on his way to trial — he turns around and accuses the President's Chief of Staff of taking a ₦400 million bribe to give him the job in the first place.

Twelve days later, the one man who could prove it... is dead in a hotel fire.
This is the story of Prince Adeniyi Adeyemi Matthew — and Nigeria's strangest ongoing scandal.
Sometime before October 2025, a man calling himself Prince Adeniyi Adeyemi Matthew began operating something called the Presidential Foreign Intervention Promotion Council — PFIPC for short. Its stated mission, according to its own social media: "facilitating global partnerships and foreign investment into Nigeria."

Sounds legitimate. It had all the trappings of one. Office space at the Federal Secretariat Complex, Phase III. A Central Bank of Nigeria account. A domiciliary account. Even a treasury single account.

Adeyemi appointed himself Director-General.
And he didn't just sit in an office. On October 10, 2025, he summoned foreign ambassadors to a meeting at a hotel in Asokoro — without ever looping in Nigeria's actual Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He requested a formal note verbale — a diplomatic document — asking the U.S. to fast-track visas for his "staff."

That's when things started to unravel. Watch Video for full explanation
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by lexylaw09: 9:41am On Jul 08
The current administration is the best we have had in many years

Thank you President Bola Hamed Tinubu
God bless Nigeria
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by Streetinvestor2: 9:46am On Jul 08
lexylaw09:
The current administration is the best we have had in many years

Thank you President Bola Hamed Tinubu
God bless Nigeria
This is worst since the creation of nigeria. Even Buhari government better pass this criminality.
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by Streetinvestor2: 9:51am On Jul 08
CharlesCNG:
Tinubu did not create the cancer; he stopped the painkillers and started the chemotherapy.

Those blaming President Tinubu for every hardship in Nigeria today are like people blaming the doctor for the cancer he diagnosed on the first day of treatment.

By May 29, 2023, Nigeria’s economy was already badly damaged. The country was running on expensive fuel subsidy, multiple exchange rates, weak revenue, heavy debt-service pressure, high inflation, oil theft, low investor confidence and a Central Bank that had been used to fund government deficits through Ways and Means.

The IMF had warned before Tinubu’s inauguration that Nigeria’s fuel subsidy should be permanently removed by mid-2023 and that the country’s multiple exchange-rate system was a major source of vulnerability. It also called for reforms in tax compliance, customs, oil theft and revenue mobilisation.

In simple terms, Nigeria was living like a man borrowing money to buy painkillers while refusing to treat the disease.

Fuel subsidy alone was bleeding public finance. The World Bank later estimated that subsidy removal would save about ₦2 trillion in 2023 and over ₦11 trillion by the end of 2025. That means the old system was not free; it was a hidden debt machine.

So when Tinubu came in and removed subsidy, unified FX windows and began revenue reforms, he did not create the crisis. He removed the plaster covering the wound.

Yes, the treatment has been painful. Inflation, transport costs and food prices have hit ordinary Nigerians hard. Government must do more to cushion the vulnerable and convert macro reforms into household relief.

But let nobody rewrite history.

Tinubu inherited a patient already collapsing from years of economic deception. Subsidy was not prosperity. Multiple exchange rates were not stability. Borrowing to consume was not growth.

The real debate is not whether Nigeria was comfortable before Tinubu.

The real debate is whether we should return to the old painkiller politics or continue the painful surgery needed to save the patient.
He met what icu
How was he able to buy private jet,renovate vip Lodge and the billions for travelling
He expanded the ministry and increased appointment. He created office for his fmly with billion. He said Buhari had done well and he will continue whr he stopped. Don't forget he was part of the apc government for 8 yrs and the vp represented his choice
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by SeeWahala: 10:09am On Jul 08
Just imagine the stale propaganda ☹️

Same tilumbu that said he "TOOK OVER FROM HIMSELF" is the person this agbad0id op is trying to absolve from his uselessness 🤭

APC gang of data goons can never disappoint 🤗
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by lexylaw09: 10:10am On Jul 08
Streetinvestor2:
This is worst since the creation of nigeria. Even Buhari government better pass this criminality.
cool cool shocked

Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by CharlesCNG(op): 1:26pm On Jul 08
chicfarmer:
You go sha explain taya. Nor be the same apc put am for the ICU? lipsrsealed undecided embarassed
That question assumes a political party is one continuous government with one continuous set of decisions. It isn't.

Governments change. Leaders change. Policies change—even within the same party.

By your logic, if one administration gets something wrong, no future administration from the same party should ever try to fix it. That makes no sense.

Take the United States. United States has had Republican and Democratic presidents, yet each administration inherits problems created by previous governments—including those from its own party. Presidents often spend years correcting policies introduced by their predecessors, even when they belong to the same political party.

The same applies in Nigeria.

If previous administrations—whether APC or PDP—had summoned the political courage to remove the unsustainable fuel subsidy, unify the exchange rate, strengthen revenue mobilisation and tackle long-postponed structural distortions, the adjustment Nigerians are experiencing today would likely have been less painful because it would have been spread over time rather than concentrated into one difficult period.

My point has never been that APC is blameless.

My point is that the economic distortions Tinubu confronted on May 29, 2023 were already real, regardless of which party accumulated them.

The question before Nigerians is not, "Who first admitted the patient into the ICU?"

The question is, who is trying to stabilise the patient now, and does anyone have a more credible treatment plan?

If you have a better alternative to the current reforms, present it. But simply saying "the same party caused it" does not answer whether reversing the reforms would improve Nigeria's economy.
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by hegelian: 1:32pm On Jul 08
CharlesCNG:
Tinubu did not create the cancer; he stopped the painkillers and started the chemotherapy.

Those blaming President Tinubu for every hardship in Nigeria today are like people blaming the doctor for the cancer he diagnosed on the first day of treatment.

By May 29, 2023, Nigeria’s economy was already badly damaged. The country was running on expensive fuel subsidy, multiple exchange rates, weak revenue, heavy debt-service pressure, high inflation, oil theft, low investor confidence and a Central Bank that had been used to fund government deficits through Ways and Means.

The IMF had warned before Tinubu’s inauguration that Nigeria’s fuel subsidy should be permanently removed by mid-2023 and that the country’s multiple exchange-rate system was a major source of vulnerability. It also called for reforms in tax compliance, customs, oil theft and revenue mobilisation.

In simple terms, Nigeria was living like a man borrowing money to buy painkillers while refusing to treat the disease.

Fuel subsidy alone was bleeding public finance. The World Bank later estimated that subsidy removal would save about ₦2 trillion in 2023 and over ₦11 trillion by the end of 2025. That means the old system was not free; it was a hidden debt machine.

So when Tinubu came in and removed subsidy, unified FX windows and began revenue reforms, he did not create the crisis. He removed the plaster covering the wound.

Yes, the treatment has been painful. Inflation, transport costs and food prices have hit ordinary Nigerians hard. Government must do more to cushion the vulnerable and convert macro reforms into household relief.

But let nobody rewrite history.

Tinubu inherited a patient already collapsing from years of economic deception. Subsidy was not prosperity. Multiple exchange rates were not stability. Borrowing to consume was not growth.

The real debate is not whether Nigeria was comfortable before Tinubu.

The real debate is whether we should return to the old painkiller politics or continue the painful surgery needed to save the patient.
And who defended those economies for 8yrs calling anyone that tried to point the sickness out wailers?? The truth is you guys are worst of a citizen.. Na una go defended failures when it suit you and na u go still come back dey yab am after e don go.. It was same tiny but and you people that said he was going to continue where buhari stopped.. Una say buhari was washing nigeria flag and repairing the vehicles.. Una even use fake airline as achievement and called anyone that pointed out the inconsistency as the enemy of the nation.. Any nation that has people like you doesn't need an enemy again
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by hegelian: 1:32pm On Jul 08
CharlesCNG:
That question assumes a political party is one continuous government with one continuous set of decisions. It isn't.

Governments change. Leaders change. Policies change—even within the same party.

By your logic, if one administration gets something wrong, no future administration from the same party should ever try to fix it. That makes no sense.

Take the United States. United States has had Republican and Democratic presidents, yet each administration inherits problems created by previous governments—including those from its own party. Presidents often spend years correcting policies introduced by their predecessors, even when they belong to the same political party.

The same applies in Nigeria.

If previous administrations—whether APC or PDP—had summoned the political courage to remove the unsustainable fuel subsidy, unify the exchange rate, strengthen revenue mobilisation and tackle long-postponed structural distortions, the adjustment Nigerians are experiencing today would likely have been less painful because it would have been spread over time rather than concentrated into one difficult period.

My point has never been that APC is blameless.

My point is that the economic distortions Tinubu confronted on May 29, 2023 were already real, regardless of which party accumulated them.

The question before Nigerians is not, "Who first admitted the patient into the ICU?"

The question is, who is trying to stabilise the patient now, and does anyone have a more credible treatment plan?

If you have a better alternative to the current reforms, present it. But simply saying "the same party caused it" does not answer whether reversing the reforms would improve Nigeria's economy.
So now you agreed buhari failed abi?? Answer first before we go from there
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by CharlesCNG(op): 1:35pm On Jul 08
Streetinvestor2:
He met what icu
How was he able to buy private jet,renovate vip Lodge and the billions for travelling
He expanded the ministry and increased appointment. He created office for his fmly with billion. He said Buhari had done well and he will continue whr he stopped. Don't forget he was part of the apc government for 8 yrs and the vp represented his choice
This your response mixes valid concerns with lazy propaganda.

Yes, citizens are right to question spending on aircraft, residences, travel and appointments during hardship. Public money must be justified.

But let us separate facts from exaggeration.

First, Tinubu did not buy a “private jet.” The controversy was over a presidential aircraft, part of the official presidential fleet, reportedly acquired to replace an ageing Boeing 737 after concerns about safety and maintenance costs. Calling it Tinubu’s “private jet” is propaganda.

Second, the Vice President’s residence was not a fresh Tinubu vanity project from nowhere. Reports show the project was originally awarded in 2010, abandoned for years, and later completed under this administration.

Third, saying Tinubu was “part of Buhari’s government” is political stretching. He was APC national leader, not president, not vice president, not finance minister, not CBN governor. He had absolutely no executive responsibility.

My point remains: Nigeria’s economy was already in ICU before May 29, 2023. If previous administrations had courageously removed subsidy, unified FX and stopped postponing reforms, today’s pain may have been less severe.

You can criticise waste. I do too.

But wasteful spending does not erase the fact that subsidy, FX distortions, debt pressure and Ways and Means had already pushed the economy into emergency ward before Tinubu started treatment.
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by CharlesCNG(op): 1:38pm On Jul 08
SeeWahala:
Just imagine the stale propaganda ☹️

Same tilumbu that said he "TOOK OVER FROM HIMSELF" is the person this agbad0id op is trying to absolve from his uselessness 🤭

APC gang of data goons can never disappoint 🤗
Does this even make sense to you after reading it?

I presented an argument about the economy. Your response contains no facts, no figures, no rebuttal—just "Tilumbu," "Agbado," and emojis.

You say Tinubu "took over from himself." Even if that is your interpretation of a political statement, how does it answer the economic facts I raised?

Did Nigeria not have an unsustainable fuel subsidy?

Did multiple exchange rates not exist?

Was debt-service pressure imaginary?

Did the IMF not recommend subsidy removal and exchange-rate reform before May 29, 2023?

You didn't answer any of those questions.

Instead, you substituted slogans for substance.

That is the difference between us: I discuss policies; you discuss nicknames.

Call me whatever you like. It won't change the facts.

And once again, Obidients never disappoint. Whenever facts become inconvenient, the evidence disappears and the emojis arrive on cue.
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by SeeWahala: 1:47pm On Jul 08
CharlesCNG:
Does this even make sense to you after reading it?

I presented an argument about the economy. Your response contains no facts, no figures, no rebuttal—just "Tilumbu," "Agbado," and emojis.

You say Tinubu "took over from himself." Even if that is your interpretation of a political statement, how does it answer the economic facts I raised?

Did Nigeria not have an unsustainable fuel subsidy?

Did multiple exchange rates not exist?

Was debt-service pressure imaginary?

Did the IMF not recommend subsidy removal and exchange-rate reform before May 29, 2023?

You didn't answer any of those questions.

Instead, you substituted slogans for substance.

That is the difference between us: I discuss policies; you discuss nicknames.

Call me whatever you like. It won't change the facts.

And once again, Obidients never disappoint. Whenever facts become inconvenient, the evidence disappears and the emojis arrive on cue.
Shhhh 🤫 You talk too much

Show us the good works of your failure tilumbu and keep peter Obi out of your head 🤪
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by Elusive001: 1:52pm On Jul 08
CharlesCNG:
Tinubu did not create the cancer; he stopped the painkillers and started the chemotherapy.

Those blaming President Tinubu for every hardship in Nigeria today are like people blaming the doctor for the cancer he diagnosed on the first day of treatment.

By May 29, 2023, Nigeria’s economy was already badly damaged. The country was running on expensive fuel subsidy, multiple exchange rates, weak revenue, heavy debt-service pressure, high inflation, oil theft, low investor confidence and a Central Bank that had been used to fund government deficits through Ways and Means.

The IMF had warned before Tinubu’s inauguration that Nigeria’s fuel subsidy should be permanently removed by mid-2023 and that the country’s multiple exchange-rate system was a major source of vulnerability. It also called for reforms in tax compliance, customs, oil theft and revenue mobilisation.

In simple terms, Nigeria was living like a man borrowing money to buy painkillers while refusing to treat the disease.

Fuel subsidy alone was bleeding public finance. The World Bank later estimated that subsidy removal would save about ₦2 trillion in 2023 and over ₦11 trillion by the end of 2025. That means the old system was not free; it was a hidden debt machine.

So when Tinubu came in and removed subsidy, unified FX windows and began revenue reforms, he did not create the crisis. He removed the plaster covering the wound.

Yes, the treatment has been painful. Inflation, transport costs and food prices have hit ordinary Nigerians hard. Government must do more to cushion the vulnerable and convert macro reforms into household relief.

But let nobody rewrite history.

Tinubu inherited a patient already collapsing from years of economic deception. Subsidy was not prosperity. Multiple exchange rates were not stability. Borrowing to consume was not growth.

The real debate is not whether Nigeria was comfortable before Tinubu.

The real debate is whether we should return to the old painkiller politics or continue the painful surgery needed to save the patient.
But your god continued from where buhari stopped.
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by chicfarmer: 2:01pm On Jul 08
CharlesCNG:
That question assumes a political party is one continuous government with one continuous set of decisions. It isn't.

Governments change. Leaders change. Policies change—even within the same party.

By your logic, if one administration gets something wrong, no future administration from the same party should ever try to fix it. That makes no sense.

Take the United States. United States has had Republican and Democratic presidents, yet each administration inherits problems created by previous governments—including those from its own party. Presidents often spend years correcting policies introduced by their predecessors, even when they belong to the same political party.

The same applies in Nigeria.

If previous administrations—whether APC or PDP—had summoned the political courage to remove the unsustainable fuel subsidy, unify the exchange rate, strengthen revenue mobilisation and tackle long-postponed structural distortions, the adjustment Nigerians are experiencing today would likely have been less painful because it would have been spread over time rather than concentrated into one difficult period.

My point has never been that APC is blameless.

My point is that the economic distortions Tinubu confronted on May 29, 2023 were already real, regardless of which party accumulated them.

The question before Nigerians is not, "Who first admitted the patient into the ICU?"

The question is, who is trying to stabilise the patient now, and does anyone have a more credible treatment plan?

If you have a better alternative to the current reforms, present it. But simply saying "the same party caused it" does not answer whether reversing the reforms would improve Nigeria's economy.
When explanation don pass epistle just know say that thing don get comma.. undecided embarassed
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by CharlesCNG(op): 2:50pm On Jul 08
SeeWahala:
Shhhh 🤫 You talk too much

Show us the good works of your failure tilumbu and keep peter Obi out of your head 🤪
I have shown you some of Tinubu’s work, and I will show you even more in the coming days. I promise you that.

But you too should make me one promise: show us the alternative economic plan of your confused Peter Obi.

Not slogans.

Not “cut cost of governance.”

Not “I will move Nigeria from consumption to production.”

Concrete policies.

What will he do differently on subsidy, exchange rate, inflation, debt, revenue, insecurity, agriculture, power and jobs?

You people keep saying “keep Peter Obi out of your head,” but he is the man you want to make president. How can we discuss 2027 without examining his ideas?

My friend, democracy is not hide-and-seek. If Obi wants power, Obi must face scrutiny.
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by SeeWahala: 2:54pm On Jul 08
CharlesCNG:
I have shown you some of Tinubu’s work, and I will show you even more in the coming days. I promise you that.

But you too should make me one promise: show us the alternative economic plan of your confused Peter Obi.

Not slogans.

Not “cut cost of governance.”

Not “I will move Nigeria from consumption to production.”

Concrete policies.

What will he do differently on subsidy, exchange rate, inflation, debt, revenue, insecurity, agriculture, power and jobs?

You people keep saying “keep Peter Obi out of your head,” but he is the man you want to make president. How can we discuss 2027 without examining his ideas?

My friend, democracy is not hide-and-seek. If Obi wants power, Obi must face scrutiny.
Then tell your handlers to fix a debate between your tilumbu and my Peter Obi so they can both showcase their hidden treasures for we the Nigerian masses from 2027 to 2031 🤗

I promise you, all plans would be laid bare for you to scrutinize once you're done with the debate date, time and venue and we have watched our contenders slug it out to the glee of the viewers 🤭

So, Are you and your tilumbu ready for the debate? 🧐
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by CharlesCNG(op): 3:00pm On Jul 08
hegelian:
So now you agreed buhari failed abi?? Answer first before we go from there
Yes, Buhari failed in my opinion — mainly because he postponed the evil day.

He should have removed fuel subsidy earlier. He should have confronted the exchange-rate mess earlier. He should have stopped the dangerous Ways and Means expansion earlier. By May 2023, Nigeria was already carrying serious economic distortions.

At a point, airlines and other foreign businesses could not even repatriate their funds because of FX shortages. IATA said Nigeria’s blocked airline funds stood at about $850 million by June 2023, before the Tinubu administration later cleared about 98% of it. That was part of the mess Tinubu inherited.

The CBN’s Ways and Means financing also became a major problem. The World Bank noted that by May 2023, the stock was over ₦26 trillion, which worsened inflationary pressure and weakened macroeconomic stability.

So yes, Buhari’s government failed to take some hard decisions early enough.

But that is precisely why I give Tinubu credit. He had the audacity to touch the dangerous things others kept postponing: subsidy removal, FX reform, revenue reform and fiscal tightening.

My position is simple: Buhari delayed the surgery. Tinubu started it.

The pain is real, but the old system was not prosperity. It was a postponed collapse.
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by CharlesCNG(op): 3:05pm On Jul 08
hegelian:
And who defended those economies for 8yrs calling anyone that tried to point the sickness out wailers?? The truth is you guys are worst of a citizen.. Na una go defended failures when it suit you and na u go still come back dey yab am after e don go.. It was same tiny but and you people that said he was going to continue where buhari stopped.. Una say buhari was washing nigeria flag and repairing the vehicles.. Una even use fake airline as achievement and called anyone that pointed out the inconsistency as the enemy of the nation.. Any nation that has people like you doesn't need an enemy again
There you go again with the famous **"you people"** politics.

Who exactly are "you people"?

Did I ever tell you I defended every Buhari policy?

Did I ever say Buhari got everything right?

In fact, I have just told someone that, in my opinion, Buhari failed to take some of the most important economic decisions when they were needed. That is called consistency.

The difference between us is that I can criticise Buhari where I believe he got it wrong and still support Tinubu where I believe he is getting some things right.

You, on the other hand, seem to think every APC supporter is one indistinguishable human being with one brain, one opinion and one permanent script.

That is intellectually lazy.

You also keep talking about what "you guys" said. Debate me, not the imaginary crowd you've created in your head. I am responsible for my point of view, not for every opinion ever expressed by someone who voted APC.

Finally, you ended by saying, "Any nation that has people like you doesn't need an enemy."

No. Nations are strengthened when citizens can change their minds in the light of evidence.

I have no difficulty saying Buhari should have removed subsidy earlier, tackled the exchange-rate distortion earlier and avoided excessive Ways and Means financing.

Can you show the same intellectual honesty?

Can you admit that Peter Obi has ever been wrong about anything?

That is the real difference between us. I support policies, not personalities. You appear to defend personalities first and examine policies later.
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by CharlesCNG(op): 4:06pm On Jul 08
SeeWahala:
Then tell your handlers to fix a debate between your tilumbu and my Peter Obi so they can both showcase their hidden treasures for we the Nigerian masses from 2027 to 2031 🤗

I promise you, all plans would be laid bare for you to scrutinize once you're done with the debate date, time and venue and we have watched our contenders slug it out to the glee of the viewers 🤭

So, Are you and your tilumbu ready for the debate? 🧐
My brother, I thought that is exactly what we are doing here.

A debate is not two men standing behind lecterns on television.

A debate is one person making an argument and the other responding to it with facts.

Look at this thread.

I wrote about the economy Tinubu inherited. I cited subsidy, exchange-rate distortions, Ways and Means, debt pressure and IMF recommendations.

How many of those points have you actually addressed?

Instead, you've given me "Tilumbu," "paid agent," "Agbado," emojis and now an invitation to a debate.

The irony is that you're asking for a debate while avoiding the one already in front of you.

As for Obi, I have no problem with debates. Public debates are healthy for democracy.

But before asking Tinubu to debate Obi, perhaps you should first debate CharlesCNG.

Start with just one point from my write-up.

Tell me which fact is wrong.

Tell me which figure is false.

Tell me which conclusion doesn't follow.

If you can do that, then we are already having the kind of debate you claim to want.

The problem is not that Tinubu won't debate Obi.

The problem is that many Obidients struggle to debate an argument without first debating the person making it.
Re: May 29, 2023: The Economy Tinubu Met Was Not Sick — It Was Already On ICU. by SeeWahala: 4:59pm On Jul 08
CharlesCNG:
My brother, I thought that is exactly what we are doing here.

A debate is not two men standing behind lecterns on television.

A debate is one person making an argument and the other responding to it with facts.

Look at this thread.

I wrote about the economy Tinubu inherited. I cited subsidy, exchange-rate distortions, Ways and Means, debt pressure and IMF recommendations.

How many of those points have you actually addressed?

Instead, you've given me "Tilumbu," "paid agent," "Agbado," emojis and now an invitation to a debate.

The irony is that you're asking for a debate while avoiding the one already in front of you.

As for Obi, I have no problem with debates. Public debates are healthy for democracy.

But before asking Tinubu to debate Obi, perhaps you should first debate CharlesCNG.

Start with just one point from my write-up.

Tell me which fact is wrong.

Tell me which figure is false.

Tell me which conclusion doesn't follow.

If you can do that, then we are already having the kind of debate you claim to want.

The problem is not that Tinubu won't debate Obi.

The problem is that many Obidients struggle to debate an argument without first debating the person making it.
Simple thing I suggested . . . bring your tilumbu and I will bring my Obi to tell us everything we (you and me) wish to know about what they have in store for us from 2027 to 2031 . . . and you're writing all these Bible passages for me to read? 🙄

See, it's better you push truck at Iddo Market than to carry this burden you call a job on your head this season 🙁
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