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It's ridiculous that some people dismiss the existence of hellfire as an abode for sinners convicted by the court of Heaven, inspite of its near equivalence and glaring similarity to the prisons instituted by the justice systems on earth.

Here on earth, criminals that are arrested are tried by the courts and if found guilty, are sentenced to prison or slammed with the death penalty.

Just in the same way, sinners that are 'arrested' after their death are tried by the court of Heaven, and are promptly sent to deathrow in their dreaded prison – hellfire.

Why is this difficult for some people to digest, as straight-forward as it is?

The reason is this: the devil and his demons are the ones whispering to these people, deceiving the that hellfire does not exist, in order for them not to accept Jesus Christ.

The devil knows that if people accept Jesus Christ and follow Him to the end, he and his demons will be all alone in the lake of fire.

And he wants a lot of company in the lake of fire when he is thrown there later in the future.

In the meantime, he derives maximum sadistic pleasure in torturing the sinners that are thrown into hellfire, which is like a holding cell for the dead sinners, who will later be duped in the destination of horror, known as the lake of fire.

If you are one of the people saying that hellfire does not exist, you have been massively deceived by demons.

It's better you awake up now and run to Jesus Christ to avoid landing in hellfire and be tortured mercilessly by the same devil that deceived you on earth.

By the time peoples' eyes close in death, the proud and stubborn ones among the naysayers will become generously humble and very sober.

Do not wait for such a time, for it would have been too late and your eternal fate would have been sealed!

https://ransomedbychrist.com/index.php?topic=3717.msg3723#msg3723

Lest not all be victim of Hell Fire in Jesus name

johnstin:
sinners that are 'arrested' after their death are tried by the court of Heaven,

Death is the end of practicers of sin. Romans 6:7
Sinners are people who committed the evil they were never convinced about since they don't have the knowledge of God and His righteousness. So their own judgement will be during Christ's millennium reign when there will be no more excuses regarding the knowledge of God but for now a sinner who doesn't understand God's standard will be considered based on what his or her conscience permitted! Romans 2:14-15
There is no place called HELLFIRE!

johnstin:
It's ridiculous that some people dismiss the existence of hellfire as an abode for sinners convicted by the court of Heaven, inspite of its near equivalence and glaring similarity to the prisons instituted by the justice systems on earth.

Here on earth, criminals that are arrested are tried by the courts and if found guilty, are sentenced to prison or slammed with the death penalty.

Just in the same way, sinners that are 'arrested' after their death are tried by the court of Heaven, and are promptly sent to deathrow in their dreaded prison – hellfire.

Why is this difficult for some people to digest, as straight-forward as it is?

The reason is this: the devil and his demons are the ones whispering to these people, deceiving the that hellfire does not exist, in order for them not to accept Jesus Christ.

The devil knows that if people accept Jesus Christ and follow Him to the end, he and his demons will be all alone in the lake of fire.

And he wants a lot of company in the lake of fire when he is thrown there later in the future.

In the meantime, he derives maximum sadistic pleasure in torturing the sinners that are thrown into hellfire, which is like a holding cell for the dead sinners, who will later be duped in the destination of horror, known as the lake of fire.

If you are one of the people saying that hellfire does not exist, you have been massively deceived by demons.

It's better you awake up now and run to Jesus Christ to avoid landing in hellfire and be tortured mercilessly by the same devil that deceived you on earth.

By the time peoples' eyes close in death, the proud and stubborn ones among the naysayers will become generously humble and very sober.

Do not wait for such a time, for it would have been too late and your eternal fate would have been sealed!

https://ransomedbychrist.com/index.php?topic=3717.msg3723#msg3723

Tell them ooo.
Something that is so very very obvious.

However, because they are so not-forgivable, is why they to live in denial to be able to endure the certainty of their regretful end

One of them is this person called Paxonel who says that even if you are an adulterer, you would still not go to the lake of fire because you believe

MaxInDHouse:
Death is the end of practicers of sin. Romans 6:7
Sinners are people who committed the evil they were never convinced about since they don't have the knowledge of God and His righteousness. So their own judgement will be during Christ's millennium reign when there will be no more excuses regarding the knowledge of God but for now a sinner who doesn't understand God's standard will be considered based on what his or her conscience permitted! Romans 2:14-15
There is no place called HELLFIRE!

Romans is not the end of the Bible of which Romans still stated it in saying that the unrepentant are storing themselves up for "wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God.

But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil

Then Revelations showed us that the Judgement of God and death according to God and not according to how you want it, is eternal Life in prisonment in the lake of fire! aka Wrath as Romans 2, still warned you.

So, you see how you yourself ate showing that you jws are also the deceivers the Bible warned people would come and deceive them?

Cc Paxonel

Dtruthspeaker:
Romans is not the end of the Bible of which Romans still stated it in saying that the unrepentant are storing themselves up for "wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God.

But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil

Then Revelations showed us that the Judgement of God and death according to God and not according to how you want it, is eternal Life in prisonment in the lake of fire! aka Wrath as Romans 2, still warned you.

So, you see how you yourself ate showing that you jws are also the deceivers the Bible warned people would come and deceive them?

Cc Paxonel

I hope you know that you are going to hell?

And you think, it is by intimidating people with hell fire that will make them to accept Christ?

Dtruthspeaker:
Romans is not the end of the Bible of which Romans still stated it in saying that the unrepentant are storing themselves up for "wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God.
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil
Then Revelations showed us that the Judgement of God and death according to God and not according to how you want it, is eternal Life in prisonment in the lake of fire! aka Wrath as Romans 2, still warned you. So, you see how you yourself ate showing that you jws are also the deceivers the Bible warned people would come and deceive them? Cc Paxonel

Death that comes due to Adamic sin is a temporary punishment for imperfect humans {Job 14:13-15} but death that will come due to willful sin is eternal punishment {2Thessalonians 1:9} that is why they will never be remembered (resurrected) unlike those whose sin is due to Adamic sin.
Read Psalms 9:17
Thanks!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Death that comes due to Adamic sin is a temporary punishment for imperfect humans {Job 14:13-15} but death that will come due to willful sin is eternal punishment {2Thessalonians 1:9} that is why they will never be remembered (resurrected) unlike those whose sin is due to Adamic sin.
Read Psalms 9:17
Thanks!🙂

Revelations clearly said that everyone who had died, will be raised up to receive their Judgement of either eternal life or eternal punishment. And it mentioned Abel and the prophets too will get their just is that day. So nothing like Adamic sin only Judgment and you know it, friend.🙏🏾

MrPresident1:
I hope you know that you are going to hell?

No I'm not for i do no evil unlike ye who have been a false prophet

Dtruthspeaker:
Revelations clearly said that everyone who had died, will be raised up to receive their Judgement of either eternal life or eternal punishment. And it mentioned Abel and the prophets too will get their just is that day. So nothing like Adamic sin only Judgment and you know it, friend.🙏🏾

According to Psalms 9:17 willful sinners will never be raised back to life what the Bible book of Revelation said is that everyone who has been faithful and faithless people too will be raised back to life that is what Paul meant when he said the RIGHTEOUS and UNRIGHTEOUS will be raised. Act 24:15

The RIGHTEOUS are servants of God who has been declared righteous because of their obedient past life before God.
Abel, Enoch, Noah Hebrews 11:4-7
Abraham James 2:23
Rahab James 2:25

The UNRIGHTEOUS are people who don't know the true God but lived by their God's given conscience! Romans 2:14-15

But WICKED people will never ever come back to life. Psalms 9:17

You are going to hell

Dtruthspeaker:
No I'm not for i do no evil unlike ye who have been a false prophet

MrPresident1:
You are going to hell

No, I'm not! You already know that you are going there like Sayt, you are just behaving like him, so no issue

Fire will burn yua yansh

Dtruthspeaker:
No, I'm not! You already know that you are going there like Sayt, you are just behaving like him, so no issue

MaxInDHouse:
According to Psalms 9:17 willful sinners will never be raised back to life what the Bible book of Revelation said is that everyone who has been faithful and faithless people too will be raised back to life that is what Paul meant when he said the RIGHTEOUS and UNRIGHTEOUS will be raised. Act 24:15

You yourself know that, that is not what it said. For Revelation confirms and affirms Daniel and Psalms which said everyone whether righteous or unrighteous will be raised up for Judgement to get the reward of either eternal life in the new heaven and earth for the righteous as the psalms and other scriptures have said or eternal punishment in the fire that never quenches for the unrighteous. Even you know that it is peril you to deny this.

Dtruthspeaker:
Whether righteous or unrighteous will be raised up for Judgement to get the reward of either eternal life in the new heaven and earth.

Both RIGHTEOUS and UNRIGHTEOUS are not yet qualified for everlasting life in Paradise yet because immediately after the thousand years reign of Christ Satan will be released then both will be tested for a short period {Revelation 20:1-3} it's then those to survive will suffice because they will not be judged based on what happened in their past life but on whatever they do during the final test from Satan {Revelation 20:11-13} then death and grave will be wiped off completely {Revelation 20:14} before God destroy both Satan and all those that allowed themselves to be deceived by Satan. Revelation 20:15 compare to Proverbs 10:7

Anyone who fails during Satan's final test have no right to judge Adam and Eve. They had perfect health, everything they needed, prospect of living forever, have all the animals under their control and our planet home to explore throughout eternity yet they followed Satan. So the same goes for anyone who has lived for 1,000 years without sickness, sorrow or pain yet still follow Satan at the slightest opportunity that is why they will be dead forever just like Adam and Eve! Revelation 20:15

MaxInDHouse:
Both RIGHTEOUS and UNRIGHTEOUS are not yet qualified for everlasting life in Paradise yet ...

No problem for that is why that Day is called Judgement Day

Dtruthspeaker:
No problem for that is why that Day is called Judgement Day

Yes the thousand years is what God's word called the judgment day! 2Peter 3:8

MaxInDHouse:
Yes the thousand years is what God's word called the judgment day! 2Peter 3:8

This is not True for Revelation 20 only shows that God's Court of Just is, was now set up at that time. But it was no one was Judged during the thousand years.

Judgement Day only came and started after the thousand years

Dtruthspeaker:
This is not True for Revelation 20 only shows that God's Court of Just is, was now set up at that time. But it was no one was Judged during the thousand years.
Judgement Day only came and started after the thousand years.

Of course thousands even millions will be judged during the thousand years!

Note that Jesus will rule for a thousand years so whoever refuses to live by Jesus' standard won't be allowed to hurt Jesus' subjects who has been promised a blissful millennium of peace and security such a person will die before the reign ends:

No more will there be an infant from that place who lives but a few days, Nor an old man who fails to live out his days. For anyone who dies at a hundred will be considered a mere boy, And the sinner will be cursed, even though he is a hundred years of age. Isaiah 65:20

So whoever refuses to obey Jesus will only be allowed to live just for 100 years and die as a youth because there is no oldage anymore in the Kingdom of Christ!

MaxInDHouse:
Of course thousands even millions will be judged during the thousand years!

Note that Jesus will rule for a thousand years so whoever refuses to live by Jesus' standard won't be allowed to hurt Jesus' subjects who has been promised a blissful millennium of peace and security such a person will die before the reign ends:

No more will there be an infant from that place who lives but a few days, Nor an old man who fails to live out his days. For anyone who dies at a hundred will be considered a mere boy, And the sinner will be cursed, even though he is a hundred years of age. Isaiah 65:20

So whoever refuses to obey Jesus will only be allowed to live just for 100 years and die as a youth because there is no oldage anymore in the Kingdom of Christ!

None of this is Judgment Day as even you can see that no one is Judged. And your Isaiah still shows that people must die even if they live tto 960years

This just shows the period quiet that follows a great storm, which is the Day of Judgement which you see comes only after the 1000years

Dtruthspeaker:
None of this is Judgment Day as even you can see that no one is Judged. And your Isaiah still shows that people must die even if they live tto 960years
This just shows the period quiet that follows a great storm, which is the Day of Judgement which you see comes only after the 1000years

Well it's OK that is what we believe but you are free to believe whatever you and your fellow worshipers prefer!

MaxInDHouse:
Well it's OK that is what we believe but you are free to believe whatever you and your fellow worshipers prefer!

It's ok but with humility and respect, i do say that, the clear wordings of Revelation 20 do not support it.

Dtruthspeaker:
It's ok but with humility and respect, i do say that, the clear wordings of Revelation 20 do not support it.

We know there is no problem with it but if you and your fellow worshipers have any other interpretation please go ahead with yours.
We are OK!

MaxInDHouse:
We know there is no problem with it but if you and your fellow worshipers have any other interpretation please go ahead with yours.
We are OK!

You know this is the full meaning of bigotry.

bigotry
/ˈbɪɡətri/ - an obstinate, unreasonable, and irrational attachment to one's own beliefs or opinions in defiance of proven facts or Truth.

There is nothing to interpret in the clear words of Revelation 20.

Dtruthspeaker:
You know this is the full meaning of bigotry.
bigotry
/ˈbɪɡətri/ - an obstinate, unreasonable, and irrational attachment to one's own beliefs or opinions in defiance of proven facts or Truth.
There is nothing to interpret in the clear words of Revelation 20.

What is the name of your church that's believing this thing you are saying?

Let's examine their fruit just as Jesus said we should do {Matthew 7:16-18} let Jesus be the judge if you agree with him!

MaxInDHouse:
What is the name of your church that's believing this thing you are saying?

Let's examine their fruit just as Jesus said we should do {Matthew 7:16-18} let Jesus be the judge if you agree with him!

This is off point bros my church is not in issue. What is in issue is that you should be reasonable and take correction. And should you find me out of line i do Verily stand corrected as you have even once or twice done to me in the past. For this is what God commanded

Dtruthspeaker:
This is off point bros my church is not in issue. What is in issue is that you should be reasonable and take correction. And should you find me out of line i do Verily stand corrected as you have even once or twice done to me in the past. For this is what God commanded

But it's clear that you and i are not on the same page.
So if there is a disagreement then what we need to do next is go back to Jesus' counsel which says:

"By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit." Matthew 7:16-18

Only true prophets teaches what yields fine fruit so if your church doesn't bears fine fruit then you should know that your teachers are wrong on this.

But if you choose not to reveal your teachers then there is no need arguing aimlessly let each person keep whatever he believes that's what God's word said:

"Let the one who is unrighteous continue in unrighteousness, and let the filthy one continue in his filth; but let the righteous one continue in righteousness, and let the holy one continue in holiness. Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to repay each one according to his work" Revelations 22:11-12

That's why i said my own brothers and sisters globally agree with me on this and we are producing the fine fruit but if you feel your church taught you better then mention the name of your church so we can compare!

MaxInDHouse:
According to Psalms 9:17 willful sinners will never be raised back to life what the Bible book of Revelation said is that everyone who has been faithful and faithless people too will be raised back to life that is what Paul meant when he said the RIGHTEOUS and UNRIGHTEOUS will be raised. Act 24:15

The RIGHTEOUS are servants of God who has been declared righteous because of their obedient past life before God.
Abel, Enoch, Noah Hebrews 11:4-7
Abraham James 2:23
Rahab James 2:25

The UNRIGHTEOUS are people who don't know the true God but lived by their God's given conscience! Romans 2:14-15

But WICKED people will never ever come back to life. Psalms 9:17

That's correct. Wicked people will never come back to life.

johnstin:
That's correct. Wicked people will never come back to life.

This is what Jesus used so many parables to teach his listeners and they all got his message just that the Jewish religious leaders of his days knew very well that most of Jesus' illustration is pointing to them {Matthew 21:45; Mark 12:12} which means after they have lived their lives in the first century they have no portion in the resurrection! Psalms 9:17

As for unbelievers who lived by their God's given conscience as long as they haven't figured out the fine fruit of the true religion they will be spared of the eternal condemnation!

johnstin:
That's correct. Wicked people will never come back to life.

That is a Lie!

Revelations, Daniel, John all say that the wicked shall be raised to get their judgement of wickedness john 5:29

So stop deceiving yourself and others

Dtruthspeaker:
That is a Lie!
Revelations, Daniel, John all say that the wicked shall be raised to get their judgement of wickedness john 5:29
So stop deceiving yourself and others

and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. ‭John 5:29 NIV‬

This has nothing to do with what those resurrected did in their past life rather their judgement will be based on what they choose to do after they have learned about Jesus Christ during the 1,000 years of Christ.
That's why Jesus said they are not yet alive until the end of his 1,000 year reign! Revelation 20:5-6

Whoever is resurrected to planet earth will still be tested by Satan to see if such a person can stand up for Jesus despite whatever Satan brings to them! Revelation 20:7-8

It's after that time billions will still follow Satan despite knowing everything about Jesus and enjoying Paradise for 1,000 years so their cases will be judged using what Jesus taught not what they did in their past life before knowing the truth about Jesus! Revelation 20:11-12

So if anyone chooses to be WICKED his or her own judgement will not be delayed because such ones don't need to be present anymore in Paradise but billions who doesn't have the opportunity to know about Jesus like the thief that was executed along with Jesus will be alive in Paradise to enjoy all the blessings until the end of 1,000 year reign of Christ afterwards he will have to prove his loyalty to Jesus before given everlasting life!