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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Nobody: 3:24pm On Jul 20
jpmoriarti:
CR7 played in 6 different World Cups tournaments and scored 11 goals for Portugal while Erling Halaand played in 1 World Cup tournament for Norway which is even less a footballing nation than Portugal and scored 7 goals. But yes continue making excuses for the failure of CR7 when it comes to World Cups.
Now, let's go to Messi's WC stats?
1 goal in 2006
0 goals in 2010.
4 goals in 2014
1 goal in 2018
7 goals in 2022
8 goals in 2026

What does this trend show you? If Messi had just 1 WC goal across 2 WC tournaments as of 2012, and yet he won 4 Balon d’Ors and was already considered one of the GOATs, then maybe you will understand that WC goals isn't such a big factor in the GOAT debate. Or would have Messi been considered lower than Haaland if he ended his career before 2022WC with career stats of 6 goals, 5 assists in 19 Apps? Answer this question honestly before I take your argument seriously.

The fact that scoring goals in WCs became easier for Messi in his later years doesn't suddenly make WC goals the only standard. We watched the full CR7/Messi debate from 2007 till date, so abeg kill the whole recency bias narrative.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by jpmoriarti(m): 3:29pm On Jul 20
Potvalor:
Now, let's go to Messi's WC stats?
1 goal in 2006
0 goals in 2010.
4 goals in 2014
1 goal in 2018
7 goals in 2022
8 goals in 2026

What does this trend show you? If Messi had just 1 WC goal has of 2012 when he had 4 Balon d’Ors (and was already considered one of the goats), then maybe you will understand that WC goals isn't such a big factor in the GOAT debate. Or would have Messi been considered lower than Haaland if he ended his career before 2022WC with career stats of 6 goals, 5 assists in 19 Apps? Answer this question honestly before I take your argument seriously.

The fact that scoring goals in WCs became easier for Messi in his later years doesn't suddenly make WC goals the only standard. We watched the full CR7/Messi debate from 2007 till date, so abeg kill the whole recency bias narrative.
If Erling Halaand played for Portugal, he would have taken them to at least one semi finals in a span of 6 World Cups.

And besides, CR7 can never be GOAT because he never won or played the biggest games in football. World cup final is the biggest game in the world of football.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Nobody:
jpmoriarti:
If Erling Halaand played for Portugal, he would have taken them to at least one semi finals in a span of 6 World Cups.

And besides, CR7 can never be GOAT because he never won or played the biggest games in football. World cup final is the biggest game in the world of football.
CR7 played his first WC semi-final at 21yo. Haaland at 25 hasn't done that yet. So dead the whole Haaland talk. This current Norway side is just as talented as the 2006 Portugal side that came fourth. So why didn't Haaland lead them to the semi-finals?

CR7 has done more than enough for his country at WC level, won all 3 MOTMs in 2010 WC group stage games vs Brazil, CIV, and N Korea; was having a great tournament but was unfortunate to get KOed by the eventual winners, Spain in the RO16. Same thing for 2014, when Pepe's stupid red card vs Germany in their first group stage game killed any chances of Portugal qualifying from that group cos of the 4-0 trashing. Same thing in the 2018 WC. CR7’s only bad WC tournament was the 2022 WC, and we can understand cos he was already old and past his best.

The fact that he played in a far inferior National Team at World Cup level during the peak of his playing ability doesn't reduce his greatness. We all watched Ronaldo and know what he did and could’ve done.
CR7 remains the GOAT. E.O.D.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by jpmoriarti(m): 4:10pm On Jul 20
Potvalor:
CR7 played his first WC semi-final at 21yo. Haaland at 25 hasn't done that yet. So dead the whole Haaland talk. This current Norway side is just as talented as the 2006 Portugal side that came fourth. So why didn't Haaland lead them to the semi-finals?

CR7 has done more than enough for his country at WC level, won all 3 MOTMs in 2010 WC group stage games vs Brazil, CIV, and N Korea; was having a great tournament but was unfortunate to get KOed by the eventual winners, Spain in the RO16. Same thing for 2014, when Pepe's stupid red card vs Germany in their first group stage game killed any chances of Portugal qualifying from that group cos of the 4-0 trashing. Same thing in the 2018 WC. CR7’s only bad WC tournament was the 2022 WC, and we can understand cos he was already old and past his best.

The fact that he played in a far inferior National Team at World Cup level during the peak of his playing ability doesn't reduce his greatness. We all watched Ronaldo and know what he did and could’ve done.
CR7 remains the GOAT. E.O.D.
Ok I forgot that CR7 has once played semifinals. So what is his excuse? You can't tell me a country who reached semifinal of a world cup is not a football nation. Why didn't he build upon that success since 2006? Even what Portugal won Euro 2016, they still couldn't translate that form into the world cup. CR7 is such a fraud in the GOAT debate and he knows it. That's why he is easily triggered once you mentioned GOAT because he knew he never lived up to the billing.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Nobody: 4:25pm On Jul 20
jpmoriarti:
Ok I forgot that CR7 has once played semifinals. So what is his excuse? You can't tell me a country who reached semifinal of a world cup is not a football nation. Why didn't he build upon that success since 2006? Even what Portugal won Euro 2016, they still couldn't translate that form into the world cup. CR7 is such a fraud in the GOAT debate and he knows it. That's why he is easily triggered once you mentioned GOAT because he knew he never lived up to the billing.
Believe whatever makes you sleep well at night. grin
You conveniently ignored my earlier questions, so I won’t bother to answer yours in return. Your opinion doesn't change the fact that CR7 remains the best player ever to kick a football and one of the GOATs (for me and a million others, he is the No. 1, Numero Uno).
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by pu7pl3(m): 5:05pm On Jul 20
Potvalor:
Believe whatever makes you sleep well at night. grin
You conveniently ignored my earlier questions, so I won’t bother to answer yours in return. Your opinion doesn't change the fact that CR7 remains the best player ever to kick a football and one of the GOATs (for me and a million others, he is the No. 1, Numero Uno).
Beautiful analysis my brother but I'll advice you that it's fools errand arguing with JP
There are other Barca fans that fit that bill but JP is not one of them.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by ProNigerian: 5:17pm On Jul 20
jpmoriarti:
If Erling Halaand played for Portugal, he would have taken them to at least one semi finals in a span of 6 World Cups.

And besides, CR7 can never be GOAT because he never won or played the biggest games in football. World cup final is the biggest game in the world of football.
@Bolded, Portugal as a whole have never played in a world cup final. Says a lot about their overall rank among top Football Nations. But it is not that surprising as they are a small country of 10-11M population.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Nobody: 9:28pm On Jul 20
pu7pl3:
Beautiful analysis my brother but I'll advice you that it's fools errand arguing with JP
There are other Barca fans that fit that bill but JP is not one of them.
Noted bro, thanks for the advice grin
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Rarre: 9:47pm On Jul 20
He's willing to join but florentino

Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by jpmoriarti(m): 8:33am On Jul 21
Rarre:
He's willing to join but florentino
Are you people incapable of producing world class players ni? You guyz always looking to steal finished products from elsewhere. When was the last time a player produced by Real Madrid dominated the world?

This was why the so called greatest club in the world which happens to be inside the capital of the country that just won the World Cup, didn't have a single player in that squad. I will found this very shameful and embarrassing as a fan.

While Barcelona was producing 9 players that played in the World Cup final, Real Madrid was waiting to vulture the players that performed best in the World Cup.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by jpmoriarti(m): 8:35am On Jul 21
pu7pl3:
Beautiful analysis my brother but I'll advice you that it's fools errand arguing with JP
There are other Barca fans that fit that bill but JP is not one of them.
There was nothing beautiful about his analysis. Don't be ridiculous cheesy cheesy
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by a4turitoroman: 3:46pm On Jul 21
Pu7l3 is this real

Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by jpmoriarti(m): 4:09pm On Jul 21
a4turitoroman:
Pu7l3 is this real
Dude knows he's as ugly as fvck grin grin

What is he going to do next? Bleach his skin? Do BBL ? grin grin grin
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Melvyn11: 3:28pm On Jul 23
Rarre:
He's willing to join but florentino
We need to get Rodri. Peres needs to stop fooling around.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Melvyn11: 3:28pm On Jul 23
a4turitoroman:
Pu7l3 is this real
Looks ten times better now.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Melvyn11: 3:30pm On Jul 23
Potvalor:
Believe whatever makes you sleep well at night. grin
You conveniently ignored my earlier questions, so I won’t bother to answer yours in return. Your opinion doesn't change the fact that CR7 remains the best player ever to kick a football and one of the GOATs (for me and a million others, he is the No. 1, Numero Uno).
Arguing with a Barcelona fan is like having a discussion with a mosquito. Stop wasting your time.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by AirBere: 6:16pm On Jul 24
jpmoriarti:
Dude knows he's as ugly as fvck grin grin

What is he going to do next? Bleach his skin? Do BBL ? grin grin grin
Body shaming in big 2026? Lol

Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Rarre: 7:46pm On Jul 24
Rarre:
He's willing to join but florentino
It's like Perez heard us

Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by TheHulk616: 10:08pm On Jul 24
Please if we need to sign players to get this masterpiece called Rodri please do
You have my approval
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Rarre: 10:16pm On Jul 24
What the hell
Boy main position is Rw

Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by pu7pl3(m):
Rarre:
What the hell
Boy main position is Rw
Whoever thats in charge of this deal is on something like crack or colos
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by jpmoriarti(m): 11:53am On Jul 25
AirBere:
Body shaming in big 2026? Lol
But he’s the one doing cosmetic surgery 😳

Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by King2019(m): 4:15pm On Jul 25
jpmoriarti:
But he’s the one doing cosmetic surgery 😳
Have small sense.. wth?
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Nobody: 4:45pm On Jul 25
Imagine a black man taunting a fellow black man cos of his skin? Not sure if it's just friendly banter or being dumb, but the joke is definitely stupid.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by pu7pl3(m): 10:36pm On Jul 25
aall this noise no concern me
Just get me that Rodri deal.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by King2019(m): 7:49am On Jul 26
Mbappe not a striker at least a target man, what is he going to offer in lw?

Mourinho will make things ugly if things don't go well oo
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by monerozi5590: 12:05pm On Jul 26
pu7pl3:
Whoever thats in charge of this deal is on something like crack or colos
grin grin grin
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by King2019(m): 4:27pm On Jul 26
If Vini to Arsenal were to happen, Xabi will understand why Vini remains the best player in the world wink wink wink

Because Chelsea will surely collect grin grin grin
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by jpmoriarti(m): 5:35pm On Jul 26
King2019:
If Vini to Arsenal were to happen, Xabi will understand why Vini remains the best player in the world wink wink wink

Because Chelsea will surely collect grin grin grin
Vinicius has played his best football. I don't know why people does not see this. Brazilians don't sustain prolonged success at the top especially once they hit the big bag. I can't see him performing better than he already did for Real Madrid after 2024.

Now he is more interested in cosmetic surgeries to improve his look, more late night parties will follow, and of course more injuries and his career will nosedive by the time he clocks 30. Check all the Brazilians and this is the way it goes for majority of them.

I hope he proves to be an exception but everything happening so far with him gives me the déjà vu feeling.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by King2019(m): 6:13pm On Jul 26
jpmoriarti:
Vinicius has played his best football. I don't know why people does not see this. Brazilians don't sustain prolonged success at the top especially once they hit the big bag. I can't see him performing better than he already did for Real Madrid after 2024.

Now he is more interested in cosmetic surgeries to improve his look, more late night parties will follow, and of course more injuries and his career will nosedive by the time he clocks 30. Check all the Brazilians and this is the way it goes for majority of them.

I hope he proves to be an exception but everything happening so far with him gives me the déjà vu feeling.
Naa not Vini, he is a late bloomer, he still has so much more he can offer.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by King2019(m): 9:41pm On Jul 26
The world has gone mad

19 years old 100mhuh

Is this the new normal?
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by King2019(m): 9:41pm On Jul 26
Yan Diamonde welcome to Real Madrid.
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