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Axis313:
But the uninformed Nigerian Zionists here are claiming Iran is desperate for ceasefire and negotiations.

same way harry truman begged japan to stop fighting, and this gave japan morale until enola gay and the second bomber dropped their payloads on hiroshima and Nagasaki within 4 days and Japan begged to surrender, after losing over 120,000 people within 4 days

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Razzness:
Trump is in a very tight spot. He wants this war to end badly but doesn't seem to have many options.

His first option is to escalate further; bring down the full force of the US military on Iran, destroy Tehran and as much infrastructure as they can. But this is his most dangerous option because this war does not have popular support in the US, thousands of civilians will die, and it still does not guarantee Iran will capitulate. Perhaps even more worrying for him is that Iran has the capacity to wreak havoc in Abu Dhabi, Riyadh, Doha, Manama, Kuwait City and Muscat. These are very important allies of the US; they just can't afford to lose.

His second option is to send in ground troops to capture one or two islands. The problem is not capturing the Island but keeping it. The Iranians will happily let the troops land on the Island and start firing everything they have on them, meaning the US will suffer more casualties and it still doesn't guarantee the Iranians will capitulate.

His third option is to do a ceasefire. This will most likely be more humiliating for him than the MOU, because Iran will obviously not give up the Strait of Hormuz, and they will use delay tactics to kick the nuclear issue down the road.

His fourth option is to maintain the status quo. Sustained but restrained bombing of military targets and a naval blockade, hoping it will force Iran to come to the table. However, oil prices are now high and above; with the Houthis blockading the Bab-al-Mandab Strait, prices will likely continue to go up. So, this is not a sustainable strategy.

These are all bitter pills to swallow and Trump must swallow one.

Trump doesn't own the united states' he is just an American president from a white background so he is in quote a delegate of America from the office of the Whitehouse so if there is anything trump doesn't want it is not Iran or anything you mentioned it is either he doesn't want to be impeached or he doesn't want to go to prison after office.Thanks

God1000:
Tehran rejected proposal from Washington that was delivered by Iraqi PM Ali al-Zaidi —who recently met US President Trump at the White House — because it failed to resolve the issue of control over Strait of Hormuz, NY Times reports.



https://www.trtworld.com/article/de802db03559?

Oh my God, I pray the devil will push Iran to target Tel Aviv.

Mirasteel:
Don't trust America for anything.

But trust iran abi

Francis396:
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[b]Trump doesn't own the united states' he is just an American president from a white background so he is in quote a delegate of America from the office of the Whitehouse so if there is anything trump doesn't want it is not Iran or anything you mentioned it is either he doesn't want to be impeached or he doesn't want to go to prison after office.Thanks

Your analogy is bad. Trump can never go to prison for defending the sovereignty of the US. Do you think Americans are that dumb ?
why didn"t Bush go to prison for fighting Iraq?
You should even be grateful to Trump for being lenient with Iran. If its a president like Bush, American soldiers would have invaded Iran by now

CorrectionFLuid:
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US will be beating you and asking for ceasefire.

It's all for tactical and history purposes.

To those jubilations that US asking for ceasefire means Iran is winning, history deals with facts. And 30 years from now, those reading history will see the many attempts at peace by the US (even if it's fake), and the many rejections for peace by Iran.

Evidence go plenty. Citations na water. Plenty of materials for historians.

This will effectively make Iran the bad guy in the eyes of history, regardless of whatever today's sentiments are.
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Hmmm. I see wisdom in your post.

On this your rock, I will build my abode...

lightwind:
Iran pounding US

Na Genz dey talk now

zegxy:
Your analogy is bad. Trump can never go to prison for defending the sovereignty of the US. Do you think Americans are that dumb ?
why didn"t Bush go to prison for fighting Iraq?
You should even be grateful to Trump for being lenient with Iran. If its a president like Bush, American soldiers would have invaded Iran by now

My analogy is not dumb you are unable to access[b] it in public office everything you do is highly organized and can actually function well with or without you even if the credit is to your name. [/b]Americans are not what you think anything can happen the supremacy of the law holds there and he can actually go to prison what I was expecting from you is not what you are giving me I was expecting something quite different but rather you were being subjective

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huptin:
Let them attack Tel Aviv...i love hearing news of dead terrorists.

Isreal specializes in that aspect.

Has the US attacked Iran from any Israeli base since this second round of war? Some of you are too gullible yet, you keep making noise online.

God1000:
Kudos to Iran, Donald trump and his Mafia government can no longer be trusted, the only language they understand is force

U no get work.

jaephoenix:
And u think US isnt losing hardware,facilities and manpower? Keep deluding yourself

Very funny take, your enemy is pounding your main house with bombs destroying your roof, soakaway, palour and rooms while you are pounding there store houses that are far away from their main building and you think you have sense.

Don27tiky:
didnt Iran said they will attack American bases in the region? American war planes land and refuel in Israel but why is Iran scared of attacking Israel the number one supporter of America in this war.

You're talking with a lot of confidence for someone who clearly doesn't understand what's happening. Iran is hitting the countries it says are directly involved in the U.S. military campaign against it. You, on the other hand, are pretending that because U.S. planes can land or refuel in Israel, every operation must be launched from there. That's not how military operations work. If you're so certain Israel was the launch point for the U.S. attacks you're talking about, then stop talking in circles and name the operation, the date, and the evidence. Otherwise, you're arguing from your imagination, not facts. Even reports have said Israel was staying on the sidelines during that phase of the fighting, so your entire argument falls apart.

https://www.news18.com/world/israel-no-interest-us-iran-war-one-call-trump-could-pull-back-west-asia-conflict-netanyahu-tehran-mojtaba-khamenei-10227853.html

God1000:
Kudos to Iran, Donald trump and his Mafia government can no longer be trusted, the only language they understand is force

Really?
is alright, the both side should apply maximum force and see who will surrender first😊

Terrorists understands only one language, trump should outsource the opening of that straight to Obong Benjamin Netayahu, he is the man for that job.

huptin:
Let them attack Tel Aviv...i love hearing news of dead terrorists.

Isreal specializes in that aspect.

Doesn't it feel odd to you that the same Israel that always attacked Iran unprovoked under the late gentle supreme leader suddenly went mute these days? Israel has found out that gentility is not an act of cowardice. The only upper hand Israel has left over Iran is Nukes

educatedfool:
You're talking with a lot of confidence for someone who clearly doesn't understand what's happening. Iran is hitting the countries it says are directly involved in the U.S. military campaign against it. You, on the other hand, are pretending that because U.S. planes can land or refuel in Israel, every operation must be launched from there. That's not how military operations work. If you're so certain Israel was the launch point for the U.S. attacks you're talking about, then stop talking in circles and name the operation, the date, and the evidence. Otherwise, you're arguing from your imagination, not facts. Even reports have said Israel was staying on the sidelines during that phase of the fighting, so your entire argument falls apart.

https://www.news18.com/world/israel-no-interest-us-iran-war-one-call-trump-could-pull-back-west-asia-conflict-netanyahu-tehran-mojtaba-khamenei-10227853.html

What difference does it make. American ships are stationed near the strait of hormuz and are bombing iran, why have they not attack any of them.

Just because those gulf state don't want to retaliate you think Iran has a free pass to attack them.

US must have told them not to retaliate, that they will retaliate on their behalf just like they just told the saudis not to retaliate the houthis bombing 2 of Saudi arabian tankers yesterday.i

The only thing ceasefire will achieve is the opportunity for America to breathe and restock their dwindling stockpile. They will have even more problems especially if the US Congress doesn't approve almost $70 Billion that Pete Hegseth is asking for. USA should stop this illegal war and go home - they already lost the moment they fired the first missile.

Razzness:
Trump His fourth option is to maintain the status quo. Sustained but restrained bombing of military targets and a naval blockade, hoping it will force Iran to come to the table. However, oil prices are now high and above; with the Houthis blockading the Bab-al-Mandab Strait, prices will likely continue to go up. So, this is not a sustainable strategy.

These are all bitter pills to swallow and Trump must swallow one.

Not just high prices of fuels but also, the USA strategic reserve is declining real fast. His only workable option is number 3 which both of them were already committed to until Israel refused to stop bombing Lebanon

Francis396:
My analogy is not dumb you are unable to access[b] it in public office everything you do is highly organized and can actually function well with or without you even if the credit is to your name. [/b]Americans are not what you think anything can happen the supremacy of the law holds there and he can actually go to prison what I was expecting from you is not what you are giving me I was expecting something quite different but rather you were being subjective

One thing you must know before you start passing judgement is that the war is not America war the war is for Israel with American money and soilders America is fighting Israel war and stands to gain nothing so he can be impeached and can actually go to prison after office as it is an unpopular war.

Arrowhead71:
Stop...
Death to America chanting is enough to attract anything horrible to those Iran regime

Stop what?
What authority in knowledge of middle East politics gives you the authority tell me not to express my opinion?

God is punishing Trump for taking glory. For claiming without him Israel couldn't have survived.
I like as Israel hand-off, let him do the fighting. Let's see if he can really handle it with Israel

you are right brother,they choose their fight wrongly this time around,they face a formidable enemy that are willing to die for their country.

madridguy:
The clowns need another window to restock their missiles

zegxy:
Na Genz dey talk now

Very funny people ...


That God100 say Iran is pounding the US with ballistic missiles, drones and heavy bombs inside US cities...


I bet the day, Iran will successfully launch any missile attack inside US mainland even if na inside State of Alaska desert he land without any casuality i swear throughout that month the kind of celebration that will take place in Iran eh! It will be massive.

Even here in Nigeria amongst the Iranian supporters.

FAKE NEWS BY NYT.

https://shafaq.com/en/Iraq/Iraqi-PM-office-denies-ceasefire-mediation-report

https://www.trtworld.com/article/1cff19691643

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/us-israel-iran-war/iraq-denies-report-on-ceasefire-mediation-between-us-iran/4008108

well captured Sir,meaning Iran is a winner?before the war,it was only nuclear weapons,but now strait of Hormuz is now weapon in the hands of Iran,Iran is their for the winner.

Razzness:
Trump is in a very tight spot. He wants this war to end badly but doesn't seem to have many options.

His first option is to escalate further; bring down the full force of the US military on Iran, destroy Tehran and as much infrastructure as they can. But this is his most dangerous option because this war does not have popular support in the US, thousands of civilians will die, and it still does not guarantee Iran will capitulate. Perhaps even more worrying for him is that Iran has the capacity to wreak havoc in Abu Dhabi, Riyadh, Doha, Manama, Kuwait City and Muscat. These are very important allies of the US; they just can't afford to lose.

His second option is to send in ground troops to capture one or two islands. The problem is not capturing the Island but keeping it. The Iranians will happily let the troops land on the Island and start firing everything they have on them, meaning the US will suffer more casualties and it still doesn't guarantee the Iranians will capitulate.

His third option is to do a ceasefire. This will most likely be more humiliating for him than the MOU, because Iran will obviously not give up the Strait of Hormuz, and they will use delay tactics to kick the nuclear issue down the road.

His fourth option is to maintain the status quo. Sustained but restrained bombing of military targets and a naval blockade, hoping it will force Iran to come to the table. However, oil prices are now high and above; with the Houthis blockading the Bab-al-Mandab Strait, prices will likely continue to go up. So, this is not a sustainable strategy.

These are all bitter pills to swallow and Trump must swallow one.

Trump may likely wipe out Iran from the look of things.

God1000:
Tehran rejected proposal from Washington that was delivered by Iraqi PM Ali al-Zaidi —who recently met US President Trump at the White House — because it failed to resolve the issue of control over Strait of Hormuz, NY Times reports.



https://www.trtworld.com/article/de802db03559?

are you a kid that can not reason,all those countries you mentioned are placs USA used as launch pad to Iran,USA can fire from their soil they used those countries they are legitimate targets once USA or Israel fire from Israel soil they we respond to it.

Macphenson:
But Saudi, Oman, Bahrain and others didn't attract Iran, why then is their dicks rising on those innocent countriesavoiding Israel that took away their supreme rapist?

God1000:
Kudos to Iran, Donald trump and his Mafia government can no longer be trusted, the only language they understand is force

But it's still Iran that is getting pounded & destroyed.

jaephoenix:
And u think US isnt losing hardware,facilities and manpower? Keep deluding yourself

Who is loosing more,is what America has lost compared to what Iran has lost.

Henjor48:
Trump may likely wipe out Iran from the look of things.

[b][/b]THE KEY POINT FROM THE WAR IS THAT THE USA DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO GAIN AND IRAN DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO LOOSE.

B2 bomber maintenance is why calling for ceasefire Iran be careful