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Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by delkuf(m): 12:30pm On Jul 26
givedemwotowoto:
You have an interesting argument with the governors.

Yes having the governors counts, but I have to dispute that because Peter Obi won 12 states in 2023 without any governor, including Nassarrawa, Plateau, and Lagos with APC governors.

In fact, Atiku’s running mate was the sitting governor in 2023 yet PO won the state.
And you are using atiku to compare with obi abi. Do you knw how dislike atiku. I would rather vote for tinubu than to vote for atiku
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by LZAA: 12:34pm On Jul 26
Trust me bro they are not underestimating the movement
It's just these Apcheat serfs have to justify their 3k per post gig hence their constant pollution of the digital space
🚶‍♂️🚶‍♂️
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by delkuf(m): 12:39pm On Jul 26
FSBoperator:
2023 was a protest vote against APC.

Today's APC is not Buhari's APC.

Today's APC under Tinubu has swallowed all that mattered in the PDP, has consolidated it's hold in the SS , NC and the SW.

Even the SE now has strong party support for Tinubu.

The NW and NE are also having strong political structures for the APC.

How do you even consider that Atiku's ADC can even stand a chance in the core north talk less of Obi and his PORK mushroom party NDC?

The next elections will be so devastating to both Atiku and Obi that they will not even know how to challenge it at the PET.

Tinubu is going to bury both Atiku and Obi's careers come next year.

As for Kwankwaso, his alliance with Obi has eroded almost all his grassroot support in Kano and his Kwankwassai movement have migrated to support the current governor who is now in the APC.

I don't know why you guys still think in static mode not understanding that a day in politics is like a year and since the last elections, centuries worth of realignment have occured.

Even Atiku is not attracting the strong northern base support he enjoyed in the last elections . Saraki has dumped him. And every other second republic heir politician from the north (the real northern mafia) are not joining him in his ADC.

If Atiku is not showing strong form, is it the content creator Obi that has since to himself being exposed and demystified to be the real con artiste that will challenge Tinubu ?

Well, it's good that you are only looking at upsets and not necessarily winning the elections .

But have it in the back of your mind that Obi will fail more woefully this time around and whatever victory he will record will be limited to his SE but he won't get the amount of near 100% votes there. States like Anambra, Enugu and Ebonyi will give Tinubu the minimum 25% .

Outside the SE, Obi will not record up to the minimum 25% and in places like the NW, and SW he will do so badly.
it is just funny when people think SE will vote for tinubu. Forget all those money those governors and senators are collecting. It cannot influence the vote in the SE
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Omenlon: 12:39pm On Jul 26
franvincoop:
Tinubu will get 25% in all the States apart from the SE but Tinubu will not get the highest number of votes in 2027.
Therefore prepare yourself for 2027 February/March 2nd round Presidential elections - Tinubu vs Atiku/Obi
it's not a bad thing to dream, keep dreaming.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Lithiumite: 12:45pm On Jul 26
franchasng:
Northern Nigeria made Tinubu President, and the same Northern Nigeria are feeling heavily betrayed by Tinubu and have vowed that Tinubu will never return to Presidency in 2027 and reason Tinubu held El Rufai that have the greatest capacity after Buhari to rally and mobilize Northern Muslims against Tinubu.



Tinubu had the biggest advantage to win in 2023, but today, the biggest advantage he has is being the incumbent President that can decide to carelessly rig the election which is what he is banking on, nothing more or less, but I tell you, with the anger in the North and even in the Southeast against Tinubu, rigging the election might lead to national chaos because the loss will be too obvious to rig.



What I foresee is that Atiku or Obi might get the highest number of votes cast while Tinubu will get the highest national spread which will lead to rerun.



If the rerun happens between Tinubu and Atiku, Obidients will vote for Atiku during the second round.


If the rerun is between Tinubu and Obi, Atiku supporters will throw their weight behind Obi/Kwankwaso.



Tinubu's only pathway to reelection is through massive rigging which may lead to chaos.
You are rather too pedestrian in your analogy,yes will be rigging for all 3 of them but there won't be any run off anywhere.

You brought out your leg too early by mentioning el rufai and northern interest in one statement........atiku doesn't even have that cult followership of buhari moreso now that he is without the pdp machinery,the NE was where he had his best showing but shettima already has his borno and yobe,taraba is now apc,bauchi isn't going to follow him this time which leaves him with just adamawa his home state and gombe......your obi cannot come 2nd in any of the NE states nor NW states,tinubu will win atleast 5 of the 7 and 4 of the six in NC.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by soccerlite: 12:46pm On Jul 26
Comedy, innuendo, Lamba, sakamaje

obi & rabiu are working for tinubu, if you don't know go and ask them they will tell you.

++++++

On banking on 2023 vapour, it shows more reasons to know the duo are deceivers

By now of 2023, obi has used Deborah murder, endsars, church tourism to gain sympathetic vote
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Omenlon: 12:47pm On Jul 26
delkuf:
it is just funny when people think SE will vote for tinubu. Forget all those money those governors and senators are collecting. It cannot influence the vote in the SE
so you never know south east votes are inconsequential in Nigeria election? Buhari won election twice with less than 5% votes from the east yet he won. Tinubu won 2023 election with less than 5% votes from the east yet he won. Who cares about south east votes to win any presidential election in Nigeria, funny children everywhere.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by BetterScottish: 12:48pm On Jul 26
FSBoperator:
And your people have shown love to other Nigerians abi?

Are you not the same people who have villified the entire Muslim north because of Buhari as President and are doing same to Yorubas because of Tinubu?

You will stab someone and be the one crying in pain.
Wetin dis one dey vomit here..
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by franchasofficia: 12:48pm On Jul 26
FSBoperator:
You are free to lend your support or not to whomever you choose to but going about vilifying the entire nationality of the individual you refused to vote for is not in any way civil.


Also note that as much as you can never support any candidate, note also that there are people who can never vote your Obi.
Of course if you check all my comments and prediction about Tinubu's chances at 2027 poll, it is based on facts and feeling of the entire Nigeria based on Tinubu's performance as President today and not just based on personal hatred like your kins who talk down and insult Obi based on just tribal and religious dislike without being objective and reasonable.


It's only Tinubu core supporters that always sing the song that OBI WILL NEVER BECOME PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA or AN IGBO WILL NEVER RULE NIGERIA, no other group in Nigeria does that and yet they dont even feel ashamed saying such uncivil thing in 2026 as if they are God that decide the fate of all humans.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by soccerlite: 12:51pm On Jul 26
delkuf:
And you are using atiku to compare with obi abi. Do you knw how dislike atiku. I would rather vote for tinubu than to vote for atiku
Imagine

You will vote for tinubu over Atiku

Lolzzzzz 🤣

Yoruba adage says, the person that rain will beat, even if he uses a roof, rain will beat him through the nail holes


Your suffa never start
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Tenplet(m): 12:56pm On Jul 26
I don't get involved in all this permutations because I know election here in Nigeria goes to the highest bidder,in a Free and Fair election, like that of some civilized country we know Obi will win before 12 noon
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Atlantis585: 12:58pm On Jul 26
No, let Tinubu and APC continue to look down on them.

Even their own online rats go hear am. See as they are allover this platform foaming at the mouth.

They feel so bold because of their rigging plans.

Let’s wait and see.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by greatiyk4u(m): 1:02pm On Jul 26
chukwutee:
We hear pass this before, even 1 porpular bingo here said he will kill himself if Apc win in the last election that’s it’s certain Labour Party will win, I want to believe it’s Labour Party that is in government now and the bingo have commited sucide??
Though labour party is not in government now but they surely won the election
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by TatafoHousewife(f): 1:06pm On Jul 26
Where did Rotimi Amaechi come from in your delusion? So you fit say you go just pick one random man from political retirement come award am 300k imaginary votes from thin air?

You really think 5 million disciplined, conservative northern voters will just stand and be looking for southern candidate and Kano regional champion to claim them? I laugh in Hindi. All those voters you are citing only follow northern establishment directives and religious leadership. Nothing concern them concern all these primary school maths you dey do. If you think you can slice Buhari loyalists like birthday cake, then it means you don't understand how politics works in the North.

Also e be like say you don forget wetin happen last election.
Combining two regional pockets of popularity cannot magically build nationwide constitutional spread.
Obi and Kwankwaso fit stack ten million votes for just ten states and dem go still lose legally. Go read Section 134 before you cook up another imaginary route.

Obi and Atiku should have maintained the alliance. Simple. All these ones na just formality. E go be smooth sailing into power for Tinubu for 2027, whether we like it or not.

And before you start crying, I don't even support Tinubu. He's easily the second worst president we've had since 1999 after Buhari.

They say madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by franvincoop: 1:13pm On Jul 26
Coming from you who is dreaming inside a dream?


Omenlon:
it's not a bad thing to dream, keep dreaming.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by PresidentMUGABE: 1:19pm On Jul 26
Parachoko:
Peter Obi Will Never Become The President Of Nigeria
PresidentMUGABE:
Black man

They sold their subjects to white folks for a bottle of wine and started complaining of slavery....

Normal level.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by franvincoop: 1:20pm On Jul 26
You are a real Obidient.
The upper iweka type of Obidients.
I've been looking for your species all morning.
Happy Sunday and you just showed that Southern unity is not dead and we must respect the North South rotation agreement as declared by Obi himself, South under Tinubu must finish 8 years.


delkuf:
And you are using atiku to compare with obi abi. Do you knw how dislike atiku. I would rather vote for tinubu than to vote for atiku
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Validated: 1:22pm On Jul 26
Parachoko:
Peter Obi Will Never Become The President Of Nigeria
You have said that more times than you have eaten. Obi's only offence is that he defeated Tinubu in Lagos and Osun state. In 2027, Obi will still defeat Tinubu, Oba of Lagos abd all the monarchs put together.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Alliswell248: 1:24pm On Jul 26
Nice2023:
The sentiments in the north here where I live is that,Tinubu is going home.

And there is nothing anyone can do.

If he rigs and the number does not tally with what is on ground,he is then demanding for fight.

Mark this my word again,Tinubu is going home.
Bookmark this post...
Tinubu would be reelected.

I'm also in the North
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Alliswell248: 1:25pm On Jul 26
Validated:
You have said that more times than you have eaten. Obi's only offence is that he defeated Tinubu in Lagos and Osun state. In 2027, Obi will still defeat Tinubu, Oba of Lagos abd all the monarchs put together.
But with this you still accuse Inec of favoritism.
Obi would never be Nigeria President.

Bookmark this
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by tunjijones(m): 1:29pm On Jul 26
Nice2023:
The sentiments in the north here where I live is that,Tinubu is going home.

And there is nothing anyone can do.

If he rigs and the number does not tally with what is on ground,he is then demanding for fight.

Mark this my word again,Tinubu is going home.
Who will now take over from Tinubu?

Atiku
Obi
Sowore

Which one my brother?
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by SonOfDSoil01: 1:31pm On Jul 26
obailala:
What kind of campaign strategy is this exactly? A political ideology just rooted in hate?

I see this statement all over the place, "Obi can never rule Nigeria! Obi can never rule Nigeria!!! You're not promoting your candidate and neither are you telling us why we should support your candidate. But rather the ideology is just simply, "Obi can never rule Nigeria!"

How exactly can this hate make Nigeria a better place?
grin stop crying……the truth the say is bitter. Ask yourself, how as obi and his delusional supporters been selling their candidate to prospective voters if not by insult and bullying grin and you think such candidates ever as a chance? He as no record of achievement in his past public office and ran a campaign of religious sentiments, a very opportunistic fellow I will say grin and we can’t forget the yes daddy leak tape also which is also a dent to his ability to govern a multi religious nation like Nigeria and this will strongly work against him and also all thanks to his uncultured supporters undecided those are just a few reasons why he will lose at the polls and will never be president grin

Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by tunjijones(m): 1:31pm On Jul 26
givedemwotowoto:
You have an interesting argument with the governors.

Yes having the governors counts, but I have to dispute that because Peter Obi won 12 states in 2023 without any governor, including Nassarrawa, Plateau, and Lagos with APC governors.

In fact, Atiku’s running mate was the sitting governor in 2023 yet PO won the state.
How did Atiku win Osun?

Do you think it was due to Atiku popularity in Osun? Or cos of governor adeleke?
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by sirray001: 1:39pm On Jul 26
Parachoko:
Peter Obi Will Never Become The President Of Nigeria
Oga god has spoken. Without rigging Tinubu can't win election.
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by Parachoko: 1:40pm On Jul 26
sirray001:
Without rigging Tinubu can't win election.
Oga God has spoken
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by bamayo(m): 1:45pm On Jul 26
you have a point that Obi should not be underestimated and in fact, I don't think Tinubu is underestimating any of his opponents even if most of us do.
Most human choices are being influenced by the moment, the trending event.
Obi gathered more votes especially in Christian dominated communities because of muslim Muslim ticket game Tinubu played. it was quite risky but he played it anyway and he was just lucky.
so, I don't think current belief of Nigeria Christians is the same as 2023.
2. currency swap also influenced that election, many people considered it as an harsh policy and Tinubu bore the consequence.
Obidients movement was influenced by this 2 factors.
Buhari neutrality, Buhari was just neutral giving a kind of level ground for everyone, you know Tinubu lost in all the 3 K, it was just because Buhari did really buy the idea of Tinubu taking over from him.
2027 election will be a different game.
inflation will affect Tinubu chance of winning election, the opposition party will take advantage of that against him
2. incumbency will positively influence Tinubu chance of winning, he has the architectures to win, the money , the police and the army etc.
3. Stability of party. APC is more stable and organised then the opposition party. more resources, more foot soldiers even to the grassroot level.
Obi major mistake is leaving LP, he would have built on the mistake of last election, joining NDC is starting all over again.
it will be difficult to easily reach the grassroot because there's no footsoldiers to do the job. the only places with enough foot soldiers are in the south east and Kano, so building foot soldiers is not easy like that for a new party, remember that there are no big guns in the party except Obi and Rabiu, it will be difficult to raise money for campaign and all the rest. election is not cheap, it's money intensive.
Atiku is even waste except he can get Buhari organic supporters which I don't think so, Buhari had states under his control , states whose governors were loyal to him in the north, Atiku doesn't have that privilege.
Politicians interest, I think Tinubu is a better at negotiating than the other 3, it will be very difficult for the governors to work against him, most of the state governors inherit the Buhari supporters in Thier respective state.
One very serious factor that people may not understand is Tinubu family factor, remi and Seyi underground work of sharing money and gifts will make many people in the grassroots to tint toward BAT.
Another thing is vote buying, that alone will make alot of different in winning the heart of voters to the ruling party.
Corruption, corruption under Tinubu will hamper his chances to gather votes, opposition party will hammer on it
2027 election is a
givedemwotowoto:
Do Not Underestimate the Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 2:47pm On Jul 26
Akpakomiza2:
Tinubu will win SS
keep dreaming
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 2:52pm On Jul 26
Omenlon:
so you never know south east votes are inconsequential in Nigeria election? Buhari won election twice with less than 5% votes from the east yet he won. Tinubu won 2023 election with less than 5% votes from the east yet he won. Who cares about south east votes to win any presidential election in Nigeria, funny children everywhere.
blBuhari and Tinubu won because they got block votes from North,no Buhari again to give tinubu block votes
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by haffaze777(m): 2:56pm On Jul 26
Parachoko:
Peter Obi Will Never Become The President Of Nigeria
Not now and not in nearest future,will that hatred bigoted soul rule Nigeria
Re: Do Not Underestimate The Obi – Kwankwaso (OK) Movement by haffaze777(m):
obailala:
What kind of campaign strategy is this exactly? A political ideology just rooted in hate?

I see this statement all over the place, "Obi can never rule Nigeria! Obi can never rule Nigeria!!! You're not promoting your candidate and neither are you telling us why we should support your candidate. But rather the ideology is just simply, "Obi can never rule Nigeria!"

How exactly can this hate make Nigeria a better place?
Obi has shown Nigerian muslim and Other tribe he hate them, so stop forcing us to love someone that has shown us that he hate us, I'm a Muslim and I still remember it's a religion war,Yoruba divided along religion line because of dirty politics of Obi.so please don't preach what's not preachable here.lastly no one ask you to support his candidate but that religion and tribal bigot will NEVER rule Nigeria.
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