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NerdCat:
The United States Constitution literally codified a secular government, which completely debunks you here.



State-mandated anti-theism in Marxist systems is an instrument of political subjugation. It has absolutely nothing to do with religion. Please get your facts straight. None of those regimes you mention codify non-belief because they love rationalist philosophy. They just enforce it to demolish competing centers of authority and force total submission to the supreme leader. They systematically eliminate independent institutions to eliminate dissent and churches simply happen to be organized rivals for popular loyalty.

It's always been all about power. Faith and belief is completely irrelevant. So treating political tyranny as the canonical doctrine of everyday secularism is a hilariously desperate category error.



Tell that to millions fighting for bodily autonomy against evangelical lobbies in the West. Religious fundamentalists routinely weaponize legal loopholes to ban books, restrict healthcare, and legislate scripture into public law daily. Having theoretical individual freedom doesn't mean pious loudmouths aren't aggressively invading public life.



This lazy semantic trickery is getting remarkably pathetic, my guy. Calling any organized set of principles a "religion" is a cheap equivocation tactic meant to mask the total lack of empirical evidence for your faith. There is a vast, unbridgeable chasm between dogmatic submission to unproven supernatural myths and the energetic defense of rational, evidence-based inquiry.

By your completely broken logic, a passionate belief in the scientific method, human rights, or environmentalism makes someone an ordained priest. Please stop stretching basic semantics before the English language utterly loses all meaning.



Anyone living in 2026 with a functioning brain can spot your desperate equivocation tactics from a mile away

The guy has been on the atheism is religion track for a while now. I think it assuages his feelings of the insufficiency of his own religion because of the devastating challenge reason brings. It's always laugh worthy.

Goosethetruth:
This is the most egotistical,incestuous violent,self serving,war mongering,misogynistic and insane book ever written or compiled by human beings.

This is what misinformed people do say about what they never studied!

Ọmọ READING differ from STUDYING!🥱

MaxInDHouse:
If scientists who depends on scientific evidences say they believe in the existence of God i believe the rest is your cup of coffee!😂

They do not say they believe in god because they have scientific evidence of a god. If you say they do then produce just ONE scientist saying they have scientific evidence for a god.

LordReed:
They do not say they believe in god because they have scientific evidence of a god. If you say they do then produce just ONE scientist saying they have scientific evidence for a god.

Their belief in God is enough for me at least they know far better than you who has never invented anything other than relying on their works to condemn their faith.

Is that not hilarious?😂

MaxInDHouse:
Their belief in God is enough for me at least they know far better than you who has never invented anything other than relying on their works to condemn their faith.

Is that not hilarious?😂

As long as it is clear you have admitted that belief is not scientific evidence. LoLz.

LordReed:
As long as it is clear you have admitted that belief is not scientific evidence. LoLz.

Scientists are telling you that there is an invisible being whose hands they keep perceiving in everything they achieved but you who sat down in the corner of your room doing nothing say no one is out there! 😂

MaxInDHouse:
Scientists are telling you that there is an invisible being whose hands they keep perceiving in everything they achieved but you who sat down in the corner of your room doing nothing say no one is out there! 😂

Guy no noise show me the scientist who said they perceive an invisible being in the science they are doing.

LordReed:
Guy no noise show me the scientist who said they perceive an invisible being in the science they are doing.

Here they are:
Oya present what you have achieved with the knowledge you have in science!🥱

MaxInDHouse:
Here they are:
Oya present what you have achieved with the knowledge you have in science!🥱

None of these say there is an invisible being whose hands they keep perceiving in everything they achieved.

In fact they are saying science and faith in god are two different things.

Goosethetruth:
i am sure that you have never on your own sat down to read the bible from Genesis to Revelation on your own.
This is the most egotistical,incestuous violent,self serving,war mongering,misogynistic and insane book ever written or compiled by human beings. !

You are always speaking phoo....shly.
Is it not people like you who are doing all those things it is talking about? How is it different from nairaland here reporting every disgusting and horrible thing you people do?.

MaxInDHouse:
YES! Because Allah means God.

It's understanding His ways they don't know not evidence of His existence!🙂

So you're saying your Jehovah is the same god as the one Muslims worship? No go make thunder from Jehovah knack u oh

HeatSeeker:
This is part of the issues Atheist unknowingly grapple with. You are unable to come to terms that GOD is far beyond religious interpretations. Your issue is not GOD but the interpretation of GOD according to the Abrahamic faiths. To be honest, they have done quite a good job pushing GOD knowledge into the world, but there comes a time where people will no longer be satisfied with the state of GOD awareness they promote and will yearn for something more.

Scratch what I said earlier (this was not intended to be a thread for some hardcore esoteric stuff). You do not need to die to experience heaven! You can witness and experience GOD while you are still alive here in this world.

NB: You need to disabuse your mind from religious constructs

So how do we experience heaven and you experiencing it?
So since you say god is beyond human interpretations,are you an alien since you can interprete him? And if you cant interprete him,then why make claims that we humans cannot interpret him

HeatSeeker:
There is no universal standard or unit of measurement for GOD'S truth. Human beings differ in their levels of acceptance to this truth, hence, the outcome is a myriad of religious groups dancing around the same themes and giving different expressions and interpretations to what was revealed for the good of man. We will all experience GOD in different ways. Everybody cannot be boxed into a singular line of thinking.

So since we all experience god in different ways,are you saying all those denoms are legit and they'll all make heaven?

Dtruthspeaker:
This is a very invalid question (off side) for 2 reasons

1) Told you before that it is an invalid questions because you are Presuming that He has to be create

2) Invalid question because it is the fallacy of shifting/Changing the Post.
The topic is proof of God to us and not proof of how God came to exist.

So, this is an invalid question like a football player using his hand to kick the ball is a foul

You're also assuming the universe has to be created,instead of just existing

Kobojunkie:
1. That is only true in a place like Nigeria where religion is air for the vast majority. That doesn't apply to athiests in other climes where religion rarely features in public life for most folks. 😒😒

2. Unfortunately, there is also atheism, the religion, which is what is at play here. Literally every ideology out there can be turned into a religion by those who allow themselves to become brainwashed by it. Atheism, for a great number of athiests, is a religion that their entire universe is centered around, and like every other religion, one they feel pushed to proselytize, even against the very logic and truth they pretend to stand for. So, when a so-called atheist uses belief in atheism as a reason to attack other religions, he does so mainly from a religious standpoint, no different than when people from other religions do the same. 😒😒

So u expect atheists to keep quiet while religious people attack us,make rules based off their religion and force us to obey them?
U well so?

Kobojunkie:
1. All nations are founded on one religious idea or the other. There is no escaping that fact. You go to even the communist/socialist/marxist nations, and you will find atheism codified in the system. However, in the West, the idea of freedom of religion at the individual level allows most people to exist without having to have the religion of others shoved in their faces every day. This is the #1 of the other individual I had responded to.😒

2. I explained there how any comprehensive ideology/belief can take up a religious stronghold over those who allow themselves to be brainwashed by it. Anyone living in 2026 would know and understand this at this point. 😒

Not all nations are founded on religion. Starting your argument with falsehood doesnt make for good reading. Please how do you mean 'atheism is codified'?
In the Westerm country like US,religion forces some laws. Example teaching Bible in schools,banning abortions etc

jaephoenix:
You're also assuming the universe has to be created,instead of just existing

The question is not about the universe but about the proof of God to us. Shikena.

LordReed:
None of these say there is an invisible being whose hands they keep perceiving in everything they achieved.

In fact they are saying science and faith in god are two different things.

The way you openly lie and twist Truths, you truly are Satan's best child

The quotes clearly say "i do not deny the existence of God," which means that charles Darwin perceives God and upholds Him. Same for Thomas Edison who says that God is The Best Engineer, which means that he perceived God too. Same for the last guy who said shallow knowledge of science will make you an atheist whereas a deep knowledge of science will make you know that there is God and you shall believe In Him.

Yet, here you are lyeing by twisting it, . Smh

MaxInDHouse:
Their belief in God is enough for me at least they know far better than you who has never invented anything other than relying on their works to condemn their faith.

Is that not hilarious?😂

Why dont you believe in evolution since those same scientists discovered, researched and believe them?

MaxInDHouse:
Here they are:
Oya present what you have achieved with the knowledge you have in science!🥱

Good. So how did Darwin intertwine evolution with a god? Waiting for the answer

Dtruthspeaker:
You are always speaking phoo....shly.
Is it not people like you who are doing all those things it is talking about? How is it different from nairaland here reporting every disgusting and horrible thing you people do?.

You pick up someone's argument or point,twist it completely out of shape,context and size,and jump off in a victory dance

Dtruthspeaker:
The way you openly lie and twist Truths, you truly are Satan's best child

The quotes clearly say "i do not deny the existence of God," which means that charles Darwin perceives God and upholds Him. Same for Thomas Edison who says that God is The Best Engineer, which means that he perceived God too. Same for the last guy who said shallow knowledge of science will make you an atheist whereas a deep knowledge of science will make you know that there is God and you shall believe In Him.

Yet, here you are lyeing by twisting it, . Smh

Why dont you believe in evolution like many of those scientists?
And would you believe in Shiva since some Hindu scientists believe he exists?

Dtruthspeaker:
The question is not about the universe but about the proof of God to us. Shikena.

I know. But you said the universe was created by your god and everything must have a creator. So since you said your god cannot be created,why must the universe be created? Why cant it just exist like your god?

Dtruthspeaker:
The way you openly lie and twist Truths, you truly are Satan's best child

The quotes clearly say "i do not deny the existence of God," which means that charles Darwin perceives God and upholds Him. Same for Thomas Edison who says that God is The Best Engineer, which means that he perceived God too. Same for the last guy who said shallow knowledge of science will make you an atheist whereas a deep knowledge of science will make you know that there is God and you shall believe In Him.

Yet, here you are lyeing by twisting it, . Smh

You are the ones trying to twist things. How is "i do not deny the existence of God," the same as I saw the invisible being in the science I was doing.

jaephoenix:
Not all nations are founded on religion. Starting your argument with falsehood doesnt make for good reading. Please how do you mean 'atheism is codified'? In the Westerm country like US,religion forces some laws. Example teaching Bible in schools,banning abortions etc

Huh? 😒😒

Much of what you know as Western nations is fundamentally shaped by a combination of Christian morality, Greco-Roman philosophy, Roman law, and architecture. In the US, for example, what you refer to as inalienable rights are derived from ideas linked to a God, and that God happens to be the one linked to the Christian Religion. So, when people scream, "Rights this and rights that," in the United States, they refer to rights that are backed by rights that come from the religion of Christianity, and not out of thin air!🤔🤔

NerdCat:
The United States Constitution literally codified a secular government, which completely debunks you here. ...

Just so we are clear, a nation that codifies secularism... freedom of religion... IS NOT a nation without a religious foundation. Let's not conflate two totally different ideas here. 🤔

Now, much of what you know as Western nations is fundamentally shaped by a combination of Christian morality, Greco-Roman philosophy, Roman law, and architecture. In the US, for example, what you refer to as inalienable rights are derived from ideas linked to a God, and that God happens to be the one linked to the Christian Religion. So, when people scream, "Rights this and rights that," in the United States, they refer to rights that are backed by rights that come from the religion of Christianity, and not out of thin air!🤔

LordReed:
None of these say there is an invisible being whose hands they keep perceiving in everything they achieved.
In fact they are saying science and faith in god are two different things.

Haaaaaaaa!😂

jaephoenix:
So you're saying your Jehovah is the same god as the one Muslims worship? No go make thunder from Jehovah knack u oh

Whatever they call God or say about God is not the issue what matters is they acknowledge there is an invisible supreme being!

jaephoenix:
Why dont you believe in evolution since those same scientists discovered, researched and believe them?

They don't have an accurate knowledge of God just as if Nairalanders are asked to talk about you each will say different things that doesn't mean you don't exist nah!🥱

jaephoenix:
Good. So how did Darwin intertwine evolution with a god? Waiting for the answer

Accurate knowledge differs from partial knowledge and partial knowledge doesn't mean there is no God!🥱