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Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by FatherOfJesus: 10:18pm On Apr 07
Of course, there are examples of extremely intelligent individuals with strong religious convictions. But various studies have found that, on average, belief in God is associated with lower scores on IQ tests. “It is well established that religiosity correlates inversely with intelligence,” note Richard Daws and Adam Hampshire at Imperial College London, in a new paper published in Frontiers in Psychology, which seeks to explore why.



One suggestion is that perhaps religious people tend to rely more on intuition. So, rather than having impaired general intelligence, they might be comparatively poor only on tasks in which intuition and logic come into conflict – and this might explain the lower overall IQ test results.

To investigate, Daws and Hampshire surveyed more than 63,000 people online, and had them complete a 30-minute set of 12 cognitive tasks that measured planning, reasoning, attention and working memory. The participants also indicated whether they were religious, agnostic or atheist.

As predicted, the atheists performed better overall than the religious participants, even after controlling for demographic factors like age and education. Agnostics tended to place between atheists and believers on all tasks. In fact, strength of religious conviction correlated with poorer cognitive performance.



[I]n theory, perhaps cognitive training could allow religious people to maintain their beliefs without over-relying on intuition when it conflicts with logic in day to day decision-making.
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2018/02/02/atheists-smarter-religious-people/
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by Righteousness2(m): 10:47pm On Apr 07
Any smartness that does not Involve a Relationship with JESUS is a Foolish and Destructive smartness..

What does it Profit to be Smart on Earth and not have a relationship with JESUS. You end up in Hell! That's Folly.

I Better be seen as a Mumu with a Relationship with GOD than to be seen as smart and Headed to Hell!

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Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by FatherOfJesus: 11:17pm On Apr 07
Righteousness2:
Any smartness that does not Involve a Relationship with JESUS is a Foolish and Destructive smartness..

What does it Profit to be Smart on Earth and not have a relationship with JESUS. You end up in Hell! That's Folly.

I Better be seen as a Mumu with a Relationship with GOD than to be seen as smart and Headed to Hell!
You just gave credence to the op.

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Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by gaius01(m): 11:27pm On Apr 07
Arrrrrrrh

For someone to be smart he need to discipline or give himself to study. Most atheist are product of extensively study and fact findings. They study from the bible, that is why most times the moment you want to preach to them they will be qouting the verse for you. They study and when they got to a place where their human mind can't comprehend it, they prefer deviating than asking God for insight.
Wole Soyinka is a pure example, born from a christain family, attended a christain school yet his paths appeal to those of his like minds.

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Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by Righteousness2(m): 11:29pm On Apr 07
FatherOfJesus:
You just gave credence to the op.
I know!
Your credence is useless. It got nothing with or for your Soul
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by jesusjnr2020(m): 11:31pm On Apr 07
A fool is smart in his own eyes.
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by FatherOfJesus: 11:44pm On Apr 07
jesusjnr2020:
A fool is smart in his own eyes.
Not in his own eyes, according to studies.
Stop justifying the op
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by FatherOfJesus: 11:45pm On Apr 07
Righteousness2:

I know!
Your credence is useless. It got nothing with or for your Soul
You can’t be angry with facts and figures you know?

To be an atheist, you need to have an IQ above average.
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by jesusjnr2020(m): 12:01am On Apr 08
FatherOfJesus:
Not in his own eyes, according to studies.
Stop justifying the op
Yeah! That's how studies also proved atheists were smarter than believers like Issac Newton who is widely regarded as the greatest scientist that ever lived.

That should also justify the foolish Op.
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by Righteousness2(m): 12:03am On Apr 08
FatherOfJesus:
You can’t be angry with facts and figures you know?

To be an atheist, you need to have an IQ above average.

You are proud of Nonsense!
You are Proud of Folly!
Devil is Wicked!
You crack me up seriously
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by FatherOfJesus: 12:08am On Apr 08
jesusjnr2020:
Yeah! That's how studies also proved atheists were smarter than believers like Issac Newton who is widely regarded as the greatest scientist that ever lived.

That should also justify the foolish Op.
You need to understand what the word “average” means in a study. And Isaac Newton is not the smartest scientist, that’s why we needed to fix his explanations for gravity after he died.

Stop justifying the op.

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Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by FatherOfJesus: 12:08am On Apr 08
Righteousness2:


You are proud of Nonsense!
You are Proud of Folly!
Devil is Wicked!
You crack me up seriously
Wetin concern Devil for study wey them conduct for London grin
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by MozB: 12:13am On Apr 08
1 corithians 18-20
18. The message of the cross is foolish to those who are headed for destruction! But we who are being saved know it the very power of God.
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19. As the scripture says "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise and discard the intelligence of the intelligent".

20. So where does this leave the philosophers, scholars, and the world's brilliant debaters? God has made the wisdom of the world look foolish.
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by FatherOfJesus: 12:19am On Apr 08
MozB:
1 corithians 18-20
18. The message of the cross is foolish to those who are headed for destruction! But we who are being saved know it the very power of God.
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19. As the scripture says "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise and discard the intelligence of the intelligent".

20. So where does this leave the philosophers, scholars, and the world's brilliant debaters? God has made the wisdom of the world look foolish.
You people keep displaying your low IQ, they are not talking about your scriptures. They said believers usually do not do better in IQ tests than atheists, which is an indication that atheists have better logical approach to problem solving in the society. This also explains why atheists now champion various fields of research in science.

Did you read the article or you didn’t understand it. Believers no go kill person with awkward reasoning.
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by MozB: 12:40am On Apr 08
FatherOfJesus:
You people keep displaying your low IQ, they are not talking about your scriptures. They said believers usually do not do better in IQ tests than atheists, which is an indication that atheists have better logical approach to problem solving in the society. This also explains why atheists now champion various fields of research in science.

Did you read the article or you didn’t understand it. Believers no go kill person with awkward reasoning.

Lol.. You know it's actually funny how you read what i posted and not see the point i'm making. I'm not arguing with the fact that Atheist have higher IQ or are smarter than believers my guy. You think i'm arguing, but i'm simply agreeing with you. It is you who has failed to see the point i'm making chairman. Lol
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by LIVINGICON: 12:57am On Apr 08
Righteousness2:
Any smartness that does not Involve a Relationship with JESUS is a Foolish and Destructive smartness..

What does it Profit to be Smart on Earth and not have a relationship with JESUS. You end up in Hell! That's Folly.

I Better be seen as a Mumu with a Relationship with GOD than to be seen as smart and Headed to Hell!

Keep quiet. Is it a crime if you are smart headed and at the same time religious?
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by budaatum: 5:07am On Apr 08
Atheists are usually believers too. They just happen to believe there are no Gods.

Personally I'd say disbelievers would be smarter simply because they will ask and knock and seek with all their heart and soul and mind and being until they find, instead of merely believing whatever they are told or read in a book.

Disbelievers will be like Eve who refused to believe she would die on the day that she ate like that ignorant Adam believed, but plucked and ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil to test with her own senses if she would surely die on the day that she ate it and the rest is human history, at least the Biblical version of human history.
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by shadeyinka(m): 5:58am On Apr 08
FatherOfJesus:
Not in his own eyes, according to studies.
Stop justifying the op
This is exactly the kind of intelligence where an undergraduate find it difficult distinguishing between a male and a female while the same question could be answered effortlessly by kindergartens in church
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:45am On Apr 08
Of course atheism gives room for wider thoughts so that an individual might not limit his thinking faculty to the rules set by God. Genesis 3:1
But there is one undeniable fact: Humans have developed their thinking caps to the extent that they invented deadly weapons of mass destruction, traveled to other planets, increased in technology yet failed woefully to cohabit peacefully even when they're able to communicate unlike animals that can't speak.
About the topic the one and only true God said "Come let us go down there and CONFUSE their language so that they won't find it easy to agree on any plan" {Genesis 11:7} and ever since then the world has not known peace till today!
Now the same God said "I will make (my own) worshipers speak the same language (agreement) so that they may worship me like brothers and sisters" {Zephaniah 3:9} and he also said "They will settle all racial disputes and destroy all weapons in their midst and never lift up weapons against anyone again" Micah 4:1-3

So until ATHEISTS are able to form something of that nature it's still the same thing There is no sense anywhere else apart from among God's people! 2Timothy 3:16-17 smiley
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by FatherOfJesus: 6:49am On Apr 08
shadeyinka:

This is exactly the kind of intelligence where an undergraduate find it difficult distinguishing between a male and a female while the same question could be answered effortlessly by kindergartens in church
What point did you make here?
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by FatherOfJesus: 6:51am On Apr 08
MozB:


Lol.. You know it's actually funny how you read what i posted and not see the point i'm making. I'm not arguing with the fact that Atheist have higher IQ or are smarter than believers my guy. You think i'm arguing, but i'm simply agreeing with you. It is you who has failed to see the point i'm making chairman. Lol
Trust me, I get your point.
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by FatherOfJesus: 6:55am On Apr 08
MaxInDHouse:
Of course atheism gives room for wider thoughts so that an individual might not limit his thinking faculty to the rules set by God. Genesis 3:1
But there is one undeniable fact: Humans have developed their thinking caps to the extent that they invented deadly weapons of mass destruction, traveled to other planets, increased in technology yet failed woefully to cohabit peacefully even when they're able to communicate unlike animals that can't speak.
About the topic the one and only true God said "Come let us go down there and CONFUSE their language so that they won't find it easy to agree on any plan" {Genesis 11:7} and ever since then the world has not known peace till today!
Now the same God said "I will make (my own) worshipers speak the same language (agreement) so that they may worship me like brothers and sisters" {Zephaniah 3:9} and he also said "They will settle all racial disputes and destroy all weapons in their midst and never lift up weapons against anyone again" Micah 4:1-3

So until ATHEISTS are able to form something of that nature it's still the same thing There is no sense anywhere else apart from among God's people! 2Timothy 3:16-17 smiley
You need an IQ above average for you to understand that the Tower of Babel story didn’t happen.
This is why most religious people failed the IQ test, now intuition is in conflict with logic and you have failed woefully.
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:18am On Apr 08
Misinformed churchgoers often think that JWs don't trash atheists and their senselessness but one thing they failed to realise is the fact that Atheists are truly smarter than them because they're not connected to the true God! Luke 12:12
A Churchgoer said in a thread "even if you curse God and Jesus JWs will not bother but they will come in mass against whoever say anything unpalatable about their Organization"
Surely what he meant is JWs don't argue with atheists and agnostics but religionsts! smiley
But what all of you (Misinformed Churchgoers) don't know is that the atheists know those whose intellect is higher than theirs, whenever they are chatting with Churchgoers they enjoy mocking you people while you're bitterly making replies to their teasing. But whenever atheists comes in contact with JWs they find themselves choked with their reasoning {Job 5:12} so instead of them teasing a JW it's the other way round, we make fun of their so called faculty that they keep avoiding us like a deadly plague.

You all can see for yourselves how the atheist keep throwing tantrums at each commentator but silent towards a JW! Isaiah 54:17 smiley
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:31am On Apr 08
Of course God never created anything it all happened by chance, there was no global deluge yet in all cultures throughout the earth people tell stories about a global deluge even before the Bible reach them, the tower of Babel never occur people are speaking different languages by chance, even there is no God people globally just worship one way or another by chance!
My friend everything the atheist's brains can't explain must have happened by chance. That's how your forefathers in atheism taught people in ancient times that the earth is supported by four elephants who are standing on a gigantic turtle yet they can't tell what the turtle is resting on. But at the same time the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob inspired Job his servant to say "God hangs the earth upon nothing" Job 26:7
When your faculty taught people that the earth is flat the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob inspired his prophet Isaiah that the earth is spherical in shape! Isaiah 40:22
So i know that what you're expect everyone to say when you can't explain what is happening is "we don't know" but the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has given us the answers therefore whether you believe it or not we know that the same person who is responsible for the confusion in language is the one who can unite people from different races on the same planet without a military force! John 17:20-23 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4 smiley


FatherOfJesus:

You need an IQ above average for you to understand that the Tower of Babel story didn’t happen.
This is why most religious people failed the IQ test, now intuition is in conflict with logic and you have failed woefully.
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by FatherOfJesus: 7:35am On Apr 08
MaxInDHouse:
Of course God never created anything it all happened by chance, there was no global deluge yet in all cultures throughout the earth people tell stories about a global deluge even before the Bible reach them, the tower of Babel never occur people are speaking different languages by chance, even there is no God people globally just worship one way or another by chance!
My friend everything the atheist's brains can't explain must have happened by chance. That's how your forefathers in atheism taught people in ancient times that the earth is supported by four elephants who are standing on a gigantic turtle yet they can't tell what the turtle is resting on. But at the same time the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob inspired Job his servant to say "God hangs the earth upon nothing" Job 26:7
When your faculty taught people that the earth is flat the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob inspired his prophet Isaiah that the earth is spherical in shape! Isaiah 40:22
So i know that what you're expect everyone to say when you can't explain what is happening is "we don't know" but the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob has given us the answers therefore whether you believe it or not we know that the same person who is responsible for the confusion in language is the one who can unite people from different races on the same planet without a military force! John 17:20-23 compare to Isaiah 2:2-4 smiley


How does this comment validate Tower of Babel story?
No scientist has proven that everything happened by chance. If you are talking about Abiogenesis, we have no concrete evidence for that but we have evidence (strong one at that) for evolution of life on this planet. So I don’t know where you got those stuffs from

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Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:52am On Apr 08
Great!
So if your faculty can't explain how life came to be without some parental means (abiogenesis) what evidence do you think is sufficient enough to prove evolution?
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob said "in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" {Genesis 1:1} afterwards He began explaining how life came to be on just one planet out of nine in our solar system, can your faculty explain how one single planet out of nine has life when the rest do not? smiley
Please if someone tells you how something was done and you finds it hard to comprehend does it necessarily means what that person said is not possible?
What makes you believe in the evolution theory yet there has never been any form of creature evolving from something else? Genesis 1:24
Please avoid the Bible citations it's meant for other followers not you! smiley


FatherOfJesus:

How does this comment validate Tower of Babel story?
No scientist has proven that everything happened by chance. If you are talking about Abiogenesis, we have no concrete evidence for that but we have evidence (strong one at that) for evolution of life on this planet. So I don’t know where you got those stuffs from
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by MozB: 7:58am On Apr 08
FatherOfJesus:
Trust me, I get your point.
lol.... I pray you have
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:28am On Apr 08
@ FatherOfJesus

Let's consider together this logic perhaps you can provide a better logic!

To test any faculty be it religious or nonreligious the Bible gives a test that i'll like you to prove wrong.
THEORY
PRACTICAL APPLICATION
BENEFIT


The Theories

Every school of thought must present a theory about how we (humans) got here, so Buddhists, Muslims, Christians, Atheists, Agnostics and many others introduced their theory about how life came to be on this planet. Of course each will continue to argue in favour of his own theory, so what can we do? Well let's move on to the next test.

Practical Applications

This is the second stage of the test. In this stage few school of thought dropped out of the race as they only have the theories but nothing like the application for practical use. My own theory now is Creation as recorded in the Bible while yours is Evolution as taught by Evolutionists. You and i can see how creatures continue to reproduce only their kind as my own choice of theory says {Genesis 1:24} can you also present a PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what your theory teaches?
My Theory says people speaks different languages because some supernatural forces came down to change their languages and we can see that people truly speaks different languages as written in my own theory book {Genesis 11:6-7} please can your Theory explain how people began speaking different languages?
Meanwhile that's not the end of the test please let's move on to the final test.

The Benefits

After the Practical Applications we all need to see the usefulness of each theory as presented.
So each theorist must work on the application he or she presents so that people can benefit from what we're presenting otherwise it's useless.
Let's go for the Creation and Evolution theories again. With the creation theory the author (God) boasted that He is going to make all those who truly hold onto His own Theory to speak in harmony {Zephaniah 3:9} settle all their racial disputes and erase all forms of prejudice affecting the rest who are still suffering from the confusion caused by ethnicity {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} He also said they will have the same line of thought {John 17:20-23 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10} so that LOVE JOY and PEACE will reign in their midst! Galatians 5:22-23
Today JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are enjoying all of these as we can travel to any part of the earth and wherever we find JWs it will be as if we are at home with other JWs who supposed to be total strangers to us! John 13:34-35 compare to Galatians 6:10

Please my friend can you present any Practical benefit of your Theory side by side with all these? smiley
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by shadeyinka(m): 8:47am On Apr 08
FatherOfJesus:
What point did you make here?
A survey was done in a US university where they asked students about gender neutral restrooms and they found it extremely difficult saying who a male or female is because as far as they are concerned, it depends on how a person feel about himself rather than his biology. This is the kind of intelligence your people has!
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by FatherOfJesus: 8:52am On Apr 08
shadeyinka:

A survey was done in a US university where they asked students about gender neutral restrooms and they found it extremely difficult saying who a male or female is because as far as they are concerned, it depends on how a person feel about himself rather than his biology. This is the kind of intelligence your people has!
So what point are you trying to make as regard this topic?
Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by FatherOfJesus: 8:54am On Apr 08
MaxInDHouse:
@ FatherOfJesus

Let's consider together this logic perhaps you can provide a better logic!

To test any faculty be it religious or nonreligious the Bible gives a test that i'll like you to prove wrong.
THEORY
PRACTICAL APPLICATION
BENEFIT


The Theories

Every school of thought must present a theory about how we (humans) got here, so Buddhists, Muslims, Christians, Atheists, Agnostics and many others introduced their theory about how life came to be on this planet. Of course each will continue to argue in favour of his own theory, so what can we do? Well let's move on to the next test.

Practical Applications

This is the second stage of the test. In this stage few school of thought dropped out of the race as they only have the theories but nothing like the application for practical use. My own theory now is Creation as recorded in the Bible while yours is Evolution as taught by Evolutionists. You and i can see how creatures continue to reproduce only their kind as my own choice of theory says {Genesis 1:24} can you also present a PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what your theory teaches?
My Theory says people speaks different languages because some supernatural forces came down to change their languages and we can see that people truly speaks different languages as written in my own theory book {Genesis 11:6-7} please can your Theory explain how people began speaking different languages?
Meanwhile that's not the end of the test please let's move on to the final test.

The Benefits

After the Practical Applications we all need to see the usefulness of each theory as presented.
So each theorist must work on the application he or she presents so that people can benefit from what we're presenting otherwise it's useless.
Let's go for the Creation and Evolution theories again. With the creation theory the author (God) boasted that He is going to make all those who truly hold onto His own Theory to speak in harmony {Zephaniah 3:9} settle all their racial disputes and erase all forms of prejudice affecting the rest who are still suffering from the confusion caused by ethnicity {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} He also said they will have the same line of thought {John 17:20-23 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10} so that LOVE JOY and PEACE will reign in their midst! Galatians 5:22-23
Today JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are enjoying all of these as we can travel to any part of the earth and wherever we find JWs it will be as if we are at home with other JWs who supposed to be total strangers to us! John 13:34-35 compare to Galatians 6:10

Please my friend can you present any Practical benefit of your Theory side by side with all these? smiley
Creation is not a scientific theory, evolution is.

Scientific theories are usually backed by experimented evidence and are falsifiable. In science, creation is not regarded a theory rather a pseudoscience.

That’s the difference

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Re: Are Atheists Smarter Than Believers? by FatherOfJesus: 8:58am On Apr 08
MaxInDHouse:
@ FatherOfJesus

Let's consider together this logic perhaps you can provide a better logic!

To test any faculty be it religious or nonreligious the Bible gives a test that i'll like you to prove wrong.
THEORY
PRACTICAL APPLICATION
BENEFIT


The Theories

Every school of thought must present a theory about how we (humans) got here, so Buddhists, Muslims, Christians, Atheists, Agnostics and many others introduced their theory about how life came to be on this planet. Of course each will continue to argue in favour of his own theory, so what can we do? Well let's move on to the next test.

Practical Applications

This is the second stage of the test. In this stage few school of thought dropped out of the race as they only have the theories but nothing like the application for practical use. My own theory now is Creation as recorded in the Bible while yours is Evolution as taught by Evolutionists. You and i can see how creatures continue to reproduce only their kind as my own choice of theory says {Genesis 1:24} can you also present a PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what your theory teaches?
My Theory says people speaks different languages because some supernatural forces came down to change their languages and we can see that people truly speaks different languages as written in my own theory book {Genesis 11:6-7} please can your Theory explain how people began speaking different languages?
Meanwhile that's not the end of the test please let's move on to the final test.

The Benefits

After the Practical Applications we all need to see the usefulness of each theory as presented.
So each theorist must work on the application he or she presents so that people can benefit from what we're presenting otherwise it's useless.
Let's go for the Creation and Evolution theories again. With the creation theory the author (God) boasted that He is going to make all those who truly hold onto His own Theory to speak in harmony {Zephaniah 3:9} settle all their racial disputes and erase all forms of prejudice affecting the rest who are still suffering from the confusion caused by ethnicity {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} He also said they will have the same line of thought {John 17:20-23 compare to 1Corinthians 1:10} so that LOVE JOY and PEACE will reign in their midst! Galatians 5:22-23
Today JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are enjoying all of these as we can travel to any part of the earth and wherever we find JWs it will be as if we are at home with other JWs who supposed to be total strangers to us! John 13:34-35 compare to Galatians 6:10

Please my friend can you present any Practical benefit of your Theory side by side with all these? smiley
I have seen organisms not given birth to their kinds over some period of time. That’s the difference between You and I.

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