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ola20ng:
➜What is your comment on this?

25 Moses saw that Aaron had let the people get out of control. They were being wild, and all their enemies could see them acting like fools.
26 So Moses stood at the entrance to the camp and said, “Anyone who wants to follow the Lord should come to me.” Everyone from the tribe of Levi ran to Moses.
27 Then Moses said to them, “I will tell you what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘Every man must get his sword and go from one end of the camp to the other. You men must kill those who are against the Lord, even if they are your brothers, friends, or neighbors.’”
28 The people from the tribe of Levi obeyed Moses. That day about 3000 of the people died.
29 Then Moses said, “Take your role today as special servants of the Lord because you were willing to fight against even your own sons and brothers. You will receive a blessing for this.” - Exodus 32 vs 25 - 29

Jeezuzpick:
For Christians, there is life after this life. Eternal life.
You'll understand if you're a Christian.

Chienex24:
Someone like you will obviously say Jesus died for nothing and worse at an early age. See the way you value life so much, a life you will lose eventually.
You obviously lack knowledge of what Christianity is all about though you might be an atheist or Muslim

Sicklebear28:
That's what Christ mean by taking up your cross and follow him.

ola20ng:
➜No nation fight against terrorism and fanaticism more than the Arab countries. Some misguided ➜ ➜ Muslims are being jailed and are even killed in these countries. Fanaticism is in every religion.
➜ You cannot castigate billions of Muslims because of few misguided ones No to terrorism, no to fake news.

Kobojunkie:
First of all, the Old Law of Moses was not a religious document but rather the Constitutional Law(Criminal Code) of the ancient nation of Israel, a country with borders clearly specified. What you regard as apostacy is in fact an act of treason against then nation of Israel.

What you so easily describe as apostacy/blasphemy against the YHWH of Israel -- the Law and Constitution in the nation of Israel amounted to committing treason against the ancient nation of Israel. Also considered treason was the acts of false prophets, nepherious individuals who would attempt to lead the people away from the Constitution onto other ideas that went against the Constitution of the State. Any found guilty of treason by a court of law for committing treason in that land of Israel was punished with death by stoning. As for who commanded it, well, the Law and Constitution of the nation of Israel did, aka YHWH of Israel. 🤔🤔

Today, treason remains punishable by death in most countries. It is usually death by hanging or firing squad. The chemical kind of death remains an option in some places. 🤔🤔

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Second, as for the purging of the Israelites in Exodus 22, it was a civil war between the camp of those who were for YHWH of Israel and the camp that was not for the YHWH of Israel. The war, we are told, resulted in the death of 3000 of them in just one day. 🥱🥱
It literally explains what happened in the text and in plain English, by the way.🥱🥱

ola20ng:
➜Will you accept the similar explanation from a Muslim for the verses you quoted?

Kobojunkie:
1. So what does it matter that Islamic nations fight against Islamic terrorism and Islamic fanaticism? Does it somehow remove from the fact that every other nation that has a significant number of Islamists living in it also has to contend with Islamic terrorism and Islamic fanaticism? 🥱🥱

2. Fanaticism is in every religion; however, Islamic terrorism and Islamic fanaticism are more pronounced in every nation where a significant portion of the population is Islamist. I can't remember the last time I heard of a Buddhism-or-Judaism-related act of terrorism. But this past week alone, I can pick out at least 10 different acts of Islamic terrorism and Islamic fanaticism in just Africa alone. 🥱🥱

3. Yes, I can! First, every Islamist out there believes the man who created Islam is their role model even today in the 21st century, and second, the 20% of Islamists in the world who are falsely labeled as Islamic terrorists and Islamic fanatics are supported by the other 80% who keep mum whenever they attack or kill people. How many times have you, for example, seen Islamists cry out against the deaths in places like Mali, Burkina Faso, Congo, Nigeria, Somalia, Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc? You never hear a peep from them, but the moment a terrorist attack takes place in the West, celebration breaks out across the Islamic world, and online. 🥱🥱

Kobojunkie:
Well, the story speaks for itself. So, yes! 🥱🥱

ola20ng:
➜You only select what suits your narration. Most of what you and your likes label as acts of terrorism are forms of self defense against the real terrorists, Israel, America and their allies. Soddam Hussein, Ghadaffi and the likes were killed for no tangible reasons. Iranian people are terrorists but Israelites are freedom fighters.
➜ Somalia was peaceful for decades before America entered their midst and turned the country upside down.
➜ Believe what you want to believe. Almighty God sees everything

ola20ng:
➜I mean the Qur'anic verses you quoted?

ola20ng:
What is your comment on this?

chimex38:
➜Old Testament-Death (Jewish religion). New Testament-Spiritual Judgement(Christianity)-Clearly written.
World Wide, there's by far less death associated with the Jewish-death implementation on adherants. That's the most practical check of religious tolerance. And yes, just as the person you quoted replied you, it was more tied as a constitution(Mosaic Law) of Isreal than exclusively as religion.
Treated as a treasonable offence. Even Jewish israel nowadways aren't hardline fixated on that. They still tolerate Muslims and mosques in their country as there's now separation of state from Religion.
➜ And it is never Christianity (Christ law) which came later through Jesus and relies on Spiritual judgement as your search highlighted not physical killings.

Kobojunkie:
1. There is nothing HARDLINE about the information that is contained in that Constitution of the ancient nation of Israel. As a matter of fact, if you compare a lot of the criminal code of the Old with what is practiced today in the West, you will find that much of what is found in the West today is sourced from exactly that very ancient constitution. 🥱

2. What those of you who belong to the religion of Christianity do not realize is that Jesus Christ of Israel, whom you all pretend you worship, [b]literally endorsed every single aspect of the Constitution of the ancient nation of Israel(including its death penalties). I[/b]t is, after all, an everlasting Constitution/Covenant. 🥱

lecowas:
"The imam reportedly accused Pastor Mulongo of misleading Muslims and of using the Quran to draw people towards Christianity."

Any Muslim who truly reads the Quran - the translated version and seek to understand it, not just recitation of the Arabic version they don't understand - will leave the religion.

Muslims don't want real and constructive discussions about their book or religion, they will resort to anger and violence.

chimex38:
➜@bolded. It's both a Yes and no. Yes. He endorced it, interpreted it and even fulfilled forecasted sections of it. ....he didn't come to condemn or destroy it, but came to fulfil it (Matt 5:17). and I some cases interprete it
No, he didn't endorse it as literal as it is in all ramifications as previously practiced. Especially in some nuanced scenario and context based where it seems not well interpreted or the Old interpretation is too HARDLINE or literal in implementation...
➜ He shows the opposite: Like eating on Sabbath. Dinning with Sinners Or in the context of this thread. KILLING like THE STORY OF THE ADULTEROUS WOMAN. Christ came to show that the Spirit of the Law should take precedence in some cases not the actual letter of the Old law. It may look like literal violation of the letter of the law but not the essence of what the same law aims to achieve.

2 “You might hear about an evil thing that happens in one of the cities that the Lord your God is giving you. You might hear that a man or woman in your group has sinned against the Lord your God. You might hear that they have broken his agreement or
3 that they have worshiped other gods or maybe the sun, the moon or the stars. I never told you to do that!
4 If you hear bad news like this, you must check it carefully. You must learn if it is true that this terrible thing has really happened in Israel. If you prove that it is true,
5 you must punish the person who did this evil thing. You must take that man or woman out to a public place near the city gates and kill them with stones.
6 But no one should be punished with death if only one witness says that person did that evil thing. But if two or three witnesses say it is true, the person must be killed.
7 The witnesses must throw the first stones to kill that person. Then the other people should throw stones to finish killing that person. In this way, you will remove this evil from your group. - Deuteronomy 17 vs 2 - 7

10 “‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death. - Leviticus 20 vs 10

22 If a man is found sleeping with another man’s wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel. - Deuteronomy 22 vs 22

Kobojunkie:
You are obviously lying!🥱🥱

expert234:
Read Quran 9:29 and Quran 5:33. The first one says you should fight against non-Muslims just because they choose a different religion.. Quran 5:33 says you should kiiiil anyone who opposes your allllla and your religion.

Sahih Bukhari 6922 says you should kiiiil anyone who leaves Islam!

You obviously haven't been reading your Quran or Hadith. Islam supports kiiilling

Hussein035:
I am a Muslim and I will not agree to this lies of fake news

No christian on Earth even Pope cannot debate Islam and win constructively/logically with over 1000 contradictions in the bible

After seeing so many debate between UTI dawwah on TikTok then an imam will go and debate and lose to the point of killing a pastor

Christians in that region should be scrutinized cos it may be the Christians even doing such to attract religion sympathy

I repeat Christianity can never win Islam in a logical debate and if any christians here doubt it tell your pastors to do debate instead of crusade

Muslims do usual debate even here in Nigeria

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus didn't send his disciples to go out ARGUING or DEBATING {Titus 3:9} with intolerant religionists rather what he said is this:

Wherever you enter into a house, say first: ‘May this house have peace.’ And if a friend of peace is there, your peace will rest upon him. But if there is not, it will return to you. Luke 10:5-6

So there is no reason debating Muslims if anyone has something worthwhile to preach or teach about his religion let him or her go out there and talk to whoever will listen.

joseph1832:
Dont be surprise, if fellow muslims will be the one shielding that Imam from the authorities.

lecowas:
"The imam reportedly accused Pastor Mulongo of misleading Muslims and of using the Quran to draw people towards Christianity."

Any Muslim who truly reads the Quran - the translated version and seek to understand it, not just recitation of the Arabic version they don't understand - will leave the religion.

Muslims don't want real and constructive discussions about their book or religion, they will resort to anger and violence.

Raph82:
But once in a while, they need to be put in their place. They are fast becoming a thorn on everybody's skin. They must have pressured that pastor into a debate before agreeing to their bid. Very annoying set of humans.

IAM4BAT4plus4:
Have you heard it's actually a fake news concocted by Christians?

maiiilooo:
Pastor killed hours after participating in Christian-Muslim debate, imam among suspects

*Pastor Bernard Mulongo took part in a Christian-Muslim dialogue before appearing on a local radio programme

*Two Muslim women reportedly converted to Christianity during the debate, a development that few expected

*Mulongo was found dead with multiple injuries after attackers on motorcycles blocked his path




Source: https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/pastor-killed-hours-after-participating-in-christian-muslim-debate-imam-among-suspects/ar-AA28IkQc?ocid=widgetonlockscreen&cvid=6a67393cb0ae4f0eb9045d132fc85b6b&ei=93

latiephwald:
They will not admit until they are satisfied with thier hatred for islam. They all know the truth and I wonder how they think LIE is not SIN.

MaxInDHouse:
When next such opportunity comes go and argue with them!

Chienex24:
Obviously a debate. They both agreed to it. Guy man dey protect him life with all him strength. Don't worry , you will live long 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂