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Re: Hellfire Is God’s Prison For The Disobedient by Dtruthspeaker: 2:52pm On Aug 08
MaxInDHouse:
and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned. ‭John 5:29 NIV‬

This has nothing to do with what those resurrected did in their past life rather their judgement will be based on what they choose to do after they have learned about Jesus Christ during the 1,000 years of Christ.
That's why Jesus said they are not yet alive until the end of his 1,000 year reign! Revelation 20:5-6

Whoever is resurrected to planet earth will still be tested by Satan to see if such a person can stand up for Jesus despite whatever Satan brings to them! Revelation 20:7-8

It's after that time billions will still follow Satan despite knowing everything about Jesus and enjoying Paradise for 1,000 years so their cases will be judged using what Jesus taught not what they did in their past life before knowing the truth about Jesus! Revelation 20:11-12

So if anyone chooses to be WICKED his or her own judgement will not be delayed because such ones don't need to be present anymore in Paradise but billions who doesn't have the opportunity to know about Jesus like the thief that was executed along with Jesus will be alive in Paradise to enjoy all the blessings until the end of 1,000 year reign of Christ afterwards he will have to prove his loyalty to Jesus before given everlasting life!
What?
Are you saying that the people who murdered Christ, the prophets, Hitler, Idi Amin, suicide murderers, Ted Bundy and co are all going to come back and live a second time for a thousand years AFTER ALL THE EVILS they have already done which they have not been judged for, which their victims are crying for just is?

What just is is that to give them life again for 1000yrs second chance?

This is why your organisation is a scam and a fraud and as you have bent the Bible to suit how you prefer God should do it

Whereas, God explicitly and specifically stated those who are are getting the 1000yrs stating clearly and unambiguously that

"But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

So, you see you are here to scam people
Re: Hellfire Is God’s Prison For The Disobedient by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:36pm On Aug 08
Dtruthspeaker:
What?
Are you saying that the people who murdered Christ, the prophets, Hitler, Idi Amin, suicide murderers, Ted Bundy and co are all going to come back and live a second time for a thousand years AFTER ALL THE EVILS they have already done which they have not been judged for, which their victims are crying for just is?
What just is is that to give them life again for 1000yrs second chance?
All these are things i calmly learn but its really difficult to grasp if you're not patient.
The people who killed Jesus will be forgiven so they will be resurrected back in Paradise because according to Jesus "............they do not know what they are doing.” {Luke 23:34}[/b]but as for Pharisees who stood their ground to plot evil against Jesus knowing fully well that he's innocent {Matthew 27:4} they gathered false accusers against an innocent man {Matthew 26:59-60} they are WICKED who needs no resurrection! Psalms 9:17

Dtruthspeaker:
"[b]But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished
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According to Jesus everyone apart from Jesus' first set of disciples are DEAD {Matthew 8:22} so when Jesus later said "the rest of the dead did not come to life again until the end of thousand years" {Revelation 20:5} Jesus concluded saying "This is the first resurrection"
The first resurrection means only those who will rule with Christ in heaven the 144,000 Born Again Christians because they will be taken to heaven directly so by the time Satan begins tempting those resurrected on planet earth the ones in heaven are problem free! Revelation 12:12

So people who deliberately chose to be WICKED will never be brought back to life because they have nothing good to contribute to life there {Psalms 9:17} but as for the RIGHTEOUS (God's ancient servants) and UNRIGHTEOUS (people who don't know the righteousness of God but lived by their God's given conscience) will be resurrected back to life in Paradise on earth. Act 24:15

In fact when Jesus told that thief saying: "Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise" Luke 23:43 he meant the thief will be adequately cared for in Paradise when Christ's Kingdom reign control planet earth!
Re: Hellfire Is God’s Prison For The Disobedient by Dtruthspeaker: 4:30pm On Aug 08
MaxInDHouse:
The people who killed Jesus will be forgiven so they will be resurrected back in Paradise because according to Jesus [b]"............they do not know what they are doing.” {Luke 23:34}[/b]but as for Pharisees who stood their ground to plot evil against Jesus knowing fully well that he's innocent {Matthew 27:4} they gathered false accusers against an innocent man {Matthew 26:59-60} they are WICKED who needs no resurrection! Psalms 9:17
See it, you said "The people who killed Jesus will be forgiven so they will be resurrected back in Paradise" yet you identified and separated those who plotted the murder against Him as being guilty, so is it not clear that all of them together that is both those who conceived and orchestrated the murder plan and those who pulled the trigger are guilty also?

And the question is what are they guilty of in this case? Answer, it is only on the specific charge and accusation of conspiracy to murder and of murder of The Son of God ONLY which Stephen too did the same thing (Acts 7:60)

Therefore, the only people who are excluded from that particular charge of conspiracy to murder and of murder of The Son of God are those who Truly did not know what they were doing and that is the follow follow public who just the guilty people to chant "crucify him".

So, it does not mean that they not guilty of stealing, adultery, fornication, murder of another person, cheating, extortion etc

So you are wrong!

And again the Bible clear ly said that everyman both the righteous and the evil will resurrect to go to their separate places as they are Judged to go, so stop Lying that the evil won't resurrect. That is your wish speaking

Revelations, Daniel, John all say that the wicked shall be raised to get their judgement of wickedness john 5:29

So stop lying
Re: Hellfire Is God’s Prison For The Disobedient by Dtruthspeaker: 5:00pm On Aug 08
MaxInDHouse:
According to Jesus everyone apart from Jesus' first set of disciples are DEAD {Matthew 8:22} so when Jesus later said "the rest of the dead did not come to life again until the end of thousand years" {Revelation 20:5} Jesus concluded saying "This is the first resurrection"
See Lies!
Re: Mathew 8:22, every reasonable person sees that Jesus was referring to sinfilled, pagan people with all their pagan burials who have not yet followed Him. And this are still the same people who since Adam have never followed God and whom we all see that they still most likely not follow Him. And they were living which is why they were going to bury "their dead", which means that His statement was purely metaphorical and figurative.

And every reasonable person understands that if the living pagans do not Follow Him, they shall get the judgement awaiting sinners whether living or dead.

So when Jesus Said that "the rest of the dead did not come to life again until the end of thousand years", He clearly meant every person who has died before that event of the chaining down of satan and the first resurrection.

And the Bible specifically tells us the whos, who were resurrected for the first resurrection which is "and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years"

Nothing like "144,000 Born Again Christians bla bla bla"

So, you are lying when you say that "people who choose to be deliberately wike d would never be brought back to life" for it is after this first resurrection that it was Written that everybody who is dead was resurrected to face their cases and judgement. The Bible even specifically went to state that the seas and waters released the dead in them, to go for Judgement.

It is a clear mark of deceit when you pretend and deliberately act not to see these clear and precise statements

So, both you and your organisation are teaching Lies excessively.

So, here you are an example of the people deliberately doing Wike
Re: Hellfire Is God’s Prison For The Disobedient by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:48pm On Aug 08
Dtruthspeaker:
Mathew 8:22, every reasonable person sees that Jesus was referring to sinfilled, pagan people with all their pagan burials who have not yet followed Him.
According to that verse was Jesus talking about Israelites who worships in the same temple like Jesus?

YES or NO!🤔
Re: Hellfire Is God’s Prison For The Disobedient by Dtruthspeaker: 9:07pm On Aug 08
MaxInDHouse:
According to that verse was Jesus talking about Israelites who worships in the same temple like Jesus?

YES or NO!🤔
See how you are just moving from post to post to find where to ground your lies.

Was it a foreigner who said let me go and bury my father especially when you read that His mission was Israel?

21 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father.

And secondly, were the Israelites not pagans like the rest of the world or do you say that they were following God?

See, your lies have no place on earth only in your heart
Re: Hellfire Is God’s Prison For The Disobedient by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:19pm On Aug 08
Dtruthspeaker:
See how you are just moving from post to post to find where to ground your lies.
Was it a foreigner who said let me go and bury my father especially when you read that His mission was Israel?
21 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father.
And secondly, were the Israelites not pagans like the rest of the world or do you say that they were following God?
See, your lies have no place on earth only in your heart
You don't know anything yet you argue blindly always.

Jesus told a Samaritan woman by the well saying:

"You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews" John 4:22

Yet Jesus said Jews who are not following him are as good as dead {Luke 9:60} so he wasn't talking about pagans but Jews who are not part of his first set of disciples!
Re: Hellfire Is God’s Prison For The Disobedient by Dtruthspeaker: 10:18pm On Aug 08
MaxinHouse
"You don't know anything yet you argue blindly always.

Jesus told a Samaritan woman by the well saying:

"You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews" John 4:22

Yet Jesus said Jews who are not following him are as good as dead {Luke 9:60} so he wasn't talking about pagans but Jews who are not part of his first set of disciples!"


Why are you blocking me from responding to you if indeed you say the Truth?

That aside, see how you are still moving post again when you don't have any counter. Now you have moved post to Samaritan woman and worship she does not know even when it has no place here just to hide the fact that you are repeating yourself.

So ignoring all your distraction tand diversionary tactics, what were the jews before Jesus Came? Were they following God before? No! Did you not read the prophets complaining about their idol worship aka paganism?

As i said your lies have no place on earth only in your heart and here you are deliberately doing Wike..
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