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Emancipate Yourself From Mental Slavery, None But Ourselves Can Free Our Minds by HacheNoire(op): 1:41am On Aug 21
Re: Emancipate Yourself From Mental Slavery, None But Ourselves Can Free Our Minds by Kobojunkie: 1:46am On Aug 21
HacheNoire:
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So long as they aren't killing anyone or committing criminal acts against other humans, people mostly don't mind what a lot of religious folks choose to believe in. 😒😒
Re: Emancipate Yourself From Mental Slavery, None But Ourselves Can Free Our Minds by HacheNoire(op): 1:50am On Aug 21
Kobojunkie:
So long as they aren't killing anyone or committing criminal acts against other humans, people mostly don't mind what a lot of religious folks choose to believe in. 😒😒
Sincerely, I don’t even have a problem with their beliefs.

The problem I have with them is if Esu worshippers did same, the way they will come all out for the practice and call it demonic.

Colonialism and imperialism really conquered Africa! Not just conquering us to submissiveness, but it conquered our mind, body, soul and reasoning.
Re: Emancipate Yourself From Mental Slavery, None But Ourselves Can Free Our Minds by Kobojunkie: 2:02am On Aug 21
HacheNoire:
➜Sincerely, I don’t even have a problem with their beliefs. The problem I have with them is if Esu worshippers did same, the way they will come all out for the practice and call it demonic.
➜ Colonialism and imperialism really conquered Africa!
➜ Not just conquering us to submissiveness, but it conquered our mind, body, soul and reasoning.
1. That is literally a built-in feature of every religion/ideology out there... the Us vs Them orientation of literally every ideology out there!🥱🥱

2. If by Colonialism you also mean the Islamic colonization of many parts of Africa, a process that continues to this day. Then maybe you are going somewhere. But last I checked, the only parts of Africa that lost their language and cultures are the parts that were colonized by Islam .i.e., Arabized regions of Africa. Every other region in Africa retained not only its local traditions and cultures, but in many cases, local religions. 🥱🥱

3. Again, what you described only happened in the Arabized regions of Africa, many of which completely lost their African Identities and languages to their colonizer, Islam. 🥱🥱
Re: Emancipate Yourself From Mental Slavery, None But Ourselves Can Free Our Minds by HacheNoire(op): 2:16am On Aug 21
Kobojunkie:
1. That is literally a built-in feature of every religion/ideology out there... the Us vs Them orientation of literally every ideology out there!🥱🥱

2. If by Colonialism you also mean the Islamic colonization of many parts of Africa, a process that continues to this day. Then maybe you are going somewhere. But last I checked, the only parts of Africa that lost their language and cultures are the parts that were colonized by Islam .i.e., Arabized regions of Africa. Every other region in Africa retained not only its local traditions and cultures, but in many cases, local religions. 🥱🥱

3. Again, what you described only happened in the Arabized regions of Africa, many of which completely lost their African Identities and languages to their colonizer, Islam. 🥱🥱
Both had same effect but different products due to the different ideology they preached. Arabs gave Arabic and westerners gave English. Both are erasing native languages in every part of Nigeria today.

Every country they took Islam too still has a fraction of their indigenous culture and tradition.

Use Northern Nigeria as a case study. Their indigenous culture and tradition are still present. When they display it, you cannot differentiate them by religion, and they still practice their indigenous religion and even display the potency of their voodoo.

Their diet and cuisine did not change. It was the brain boxes they swapped.

Same applies in the west, South and East. It’s just that same imperialism and colonization has rendered it demonic or they say the tradition or culture is “out of fashion”.
Re: Emancipate Yourself From Mental Slavery, None But Ourselves Can Free Our Minds by werisetogether(m): 2:18am On Aug 21
HacheNoire:
Sincerely, I don’t even have a problem with their beliefs.

The problem I have with them is if Esu worshippers did same, the way they will come all out for the practice and call it demonic.

Colonialism and imperialism really conquered Africa! Not just conquering us to submissiveness, but it conquered our mind, body, soul and reasoning.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts

But it's important to keep the boundaries clear on some terms like "colonialism".

Yes, the white man introduced the Bible to us. But that doesn't mean he wrote the Bible. Or that he is particularly persuaded on the contents of the Bible.

Blindly endorsing anything done in the name of "Christianity" is not even biblical, where we're told to test the spirits.

The Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ has nothing to do with skulls.

Another example:

The white man brought the English language here. That's even the language we are using to communicate on this platform

But that doesn't mean that I must adopt British superstitious beliefs as part of the package.

True education comes when we are bold enough to do our own thinking.

Not just copy-and-paste.
Re: Emancipate Yourself From Mental Slavery, None But Ourselves Can Free Our Minds by HacheNoire(op): 2:28am On Aug 21
werisetogether:
Thanks for sharing your thoughts

But it's important to keep the boundaries clear on some terms like "colonialism".

Blindly endorsing anything done in the name of "Christianity" is not even biblical, where we're told to test the spirits.

Yes, the white man introduced the Bible to us. But that doesn't mean he wrote the Bible. Or that he is particularly persuaded on the contents of the Bible.

The Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ has nothing to do with skulls.

Another example:

The white man brought the English language here. That's even the language we were using to communicate on this platform

But that doesn't mean that I must adopt British superstitious beliefs as part of the package.

True education comes when we are bold enough to do our own thinking.

Not just copy-and-paste.
You made vital points but if you familiar with the landscape of religion in just only Nigeria, you will know the extent of what people can do.

If a famous pastor and Imam should wash his feet in a bowl, 8 out of 10 Nigerians will drink it.

Very few question or ponder about religious practices. They are auto dedicated to whatever comes with it. and same will accuse you of idolatry you did same outside their religion.
Re: Emancipate Yourself From Mental Slavery, None But Ourselves Can Free Our Minds by Kobojunkie: 2:42am On Aug 21
HacheNoire:
➜Both had same effect but different products due to the different ideology they preached. Arabs gave Arabic and westerners gave English.
➜ Both are erasing native languages in every part of Nigeria today. Every country they took Islam too still has a fraction of their indigenous culture and tradition.
➜ Use Northern Nigeria as a case study. Their indigenous culture and tradition are still present. When they display it, you cannot differentiate them by religion, and they still practice their indigenous religion and even display the potency of their voodoo.
➜ Their diet and cuisine did not change. It was the brain boxes they swapped.
➜ Same applies in the west, South and East. It’s just that same imperialism and colonization has rendered it demonic or they say the tradition or culture is “out of fashion”.
1. That is a lie! Egypt, Morocco, Mali, Burkina Faso, etc(most of the North African countries), among so many other countries, lost much of their languages and different cultures. They have been largely replaced with Arabized versions that do not connect back to the archaeological history of many of those places. That is what happens when you replace much of the culture of a people and replace it with something entirely foreign and removed. 🥱

2. Nigerian history literally has accounts of the erasure of traditions and culture that happened under Islam during the time of Islam Dan Fodio wars. The Western colonizers never erased culture in much of Southern Nigeria, where they mostly introduced their own culture as an option. Stop desperately trying to rewrite history. 🥱🥱

3. There you lie! If you compare the cultures and traditions found in the North to those in the South, you will immediately notice that Northern culture and traditions seem more monotonous across wide patches than you would find anywhere in the South. There is a reason for that. And it has to do with the fact that a wide swath of it has been lost to Islamization. The same continues to this day, and if it continues for a couple more decades, the North is not going to be any different from places like Niger or Mali, where you find the culture more Arabized and unAfrican.

4. Their diet has not changed compared to what time or people? I don't understand why you mention diet in this case. 🥱🥱

5. Nonsense! 🥱🥱
Re: Emancipate Yourself From Mental Slavery, None But Ourselves Can Free Our Minds by werisetogether(m): 2:44am On Aug 21
HacheNoire:
If a famous pastor and Imam should wash his feet in a bowl, 8 out of 10 Nigerians will drink it.

Very few question or ponder about religious practices. They are auto dedicated to whatever comes with it. and same will accuse you of idolatry you did same outside their religion.
Thanks for your response.

Using your example, does the Bible tell us to drink the water from washed pastors' feet?

By the way, con men have been around for a long time. Even in the time of Christ's apostles. (The real apostles, not the ones using "apostle" today kinda like a chieftaincy title)

You also mentioned Idolatry.

Idolatry is a HUMAN problem, not a racial one. And it's not right. No matter who does it.

Your first post cited the powerful wise words of Bob Marley.

Here's my point:

A mind that refuses to take up the responsibility to do its own research will be preyed upon by "easy" slogans and evil gimmicks.
Re: Emancipate Yourself From Mental Slavery, None But Ourselves Can Free Our Minds by HacheNoire(op): 2:54am On Aug 21
Kobojunkie:
1. That is a lie! Egypt, Morocco, Mali, Burkina Faso, etc(most of the North African countries), among so many other countries, lost much of their languages and different cultures. They have been largely replaced with Arabized versions that do not connect back to the archaeological history of many of those places. That is what happens when you replace much of the culture of a people and replace it with something entirely foreign and removed. 🥱

2. Nigerian history literally has accounts of the erasure of traditions and culture that happened under Islam during the time of Islam Dan Fodio wars. The Western colonizers never erased culture in much of Southern Nigeria, where they mostly introduced their own culture as an option. Stop desperately trying to rewrite history. 🥱🥱

3. There you lie! If you compare the cultures and traditions found in the North to those in the South, you will immediately notice that Northern culture and traditions seem more monotonous across wide patches than you would find anywhere in the South. There is a reason for that. And it has to do with the fact that a wide swath of it has been lost to Islamization. The same continues to this day, and if it continues for a couple more decades, the North is not going to be any different from places like Niger or Mali, where you find the culture more Arabized and unAfrican.

4. Their diet has not changed compared to what time or people? I don't understand why you mention diet in this case. 🥱🥱

5. Nonsense! 🥱🥱
They lost most but they still have. That tells you it still exists. Every tribe lost a part due to effects of the forceful intrusion.

Which culture has been erased? Can you mention? Let’s even imagine some were erased, not all. People still sustained it to present day but the effect of colonialism and imperialism has dwindled its growth and caused abandonment.

When you say Northern culture is monotonous, is western culture varied? You not making any valid or verifiable sense here. Is Eastern culture monotonous?

Yes, diet and cuisines. It went that far. Do you have an idea how many cuisines and diet we imbibed, and etiquettes we adopted?

You are the one not bringing sense to the table. You more of emotions than fact. A product of what I am rebuking.
Re: Emancipate Yourself From Mental Slavery, None But Ourselves Can Free Our Minds by HacheNoire(op): 2:57am On Aug 21
werisetogether:
Thanks for your response.

Using your example, does the Bible tell us to drink the water from washed pastors' feet?

By the way, con men have been around for a long time. Even in the time of Christ's apostles. (The real apostles, not the ones using "apostle" today kinda like a chieftaincy title)

You also mentioned Idolatry.

Idolatry is a HUMAN problem, not a racial one. And it's not right. No matter who does it.

Your first post cited the powerful wise words of Bob Marley.

Here's my point:

A mind that refuses to take up the responsibility to do its own research will be preyed upon by "easy" slogans and evil gimmicks.
You said it all already. But that count is in hundred of millions and a canker worm to the growth of our country and continent.
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