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Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by nairalanda1(m): 7:10pm On Aug 31
experts:
I think you didn't pay attention to his position, especially the main announcement of his policy position.

Hashim made it clear that as producer of crude, we can't allow domestic petrol be dictated by international benchmark.

That's insane and no oil producing country does that.

His calculation is based on actual cost of producing crude, refining and transportation.

It's just like a farmer who produce 100 bags of beans.

If his households eat 20 bags, you can't claim to be selling to your household, just because beans prices rises in the market.

Domestic consumption should be benchmark based on actual cost of production, not international price
Unfortunately as an opec member our crude is decided by international benchmarks

Plus selling crude at kow price to domestic refiners means government is not making revenue from that crude in enough quantity.

That means more borrowing
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by helinues: 7:12pm On Aug 31
Sheuns:
Only if you read what was written above. You’ll figure out how he said such is possible.
You have read it, why not summarize the epistle without doing unnecessary shalaye
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by experts(op): 7:15pm On Aug 31
nairalanda1:
Unfortunately as an opec member our crude is decided by international benchmarks

Plus selling crude at kow price to domestic refiners means government is not making revenue from that crude in enough quantity.

That means more borrowing
You are literally agreeing with Hashim.

Opec control international price, not local price.

When we sell our crude in international market, opec controls that, not when we sell in our own Domestic market
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by Kingrshd3: 7:18pm On Aug 31
Bro all Na campaign strategy when he gets there another story will enter.






experts:
False assumptions?

I would keep to read those false assumptions.

However, you must remember that Gbenga Hashim is an energy executive of over 25 years.

He's not just an academic energy executive, he's an investor, an operator of oil wells and owned ipp.

So, I want to see what those false assumptions you identify are
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by nairalanda1(m): 7:20pm On Aug 31
experts:
You are literally agreeing with Hashim.

Opec control international price, not local price.

When we sell our crude in international market, opec controls that, not when we sell in our own Domestic market
We are obliged to sell crude at international prices even to local refineries.

Nigerian crude oil is sold to local refineries based on international market benchmarks because oil is priced globally in US dollars and local refineries operate as commercial entities exposed to worldwide commodity costs...
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by Kingrshd3: 7:21pm On Aug 31
OredoPikin:
tinubu told us we will buy fuel for N300 on before his 4th year in office.
we almost 4yrs now and instead of coming down, it keep increasing
Yes that's how they will say it until they gets there..


Same way with hasim when he gets there u will hear another story
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by Cromagnon: 7:22pm On Aug 31
experts:
Both Davido and his uncle have 1 vote each
keep telling yourself that
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by Cromagnon: 7:24pm On Aug 31
xtianchris:
nice observation HEe needs to come out plain
do politicians come out plain and win?
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by DARLYNBOI: 7:25pm On Aug 31
nairalanda1:
The problem is his plan is essentially trying to control the production cost of fuel based on a set of false assumptions.

He also wants to reintroduce offical rate for dollar

All the above means more borrowing.

Nigerians are btter helped by our economy being productive, not by subsides.
When we ask you to list out the false assumptions that you have identified in his proposed solution now....you will go mute....
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by Cromagnon: 7:25pm On Aug 31
Is that the meaning of figures to you
Ayé caramba
And your allowed to vote fa
Ameerah1234:
Finally someone is talking with figures and not propaganda. ₦605 as starting point with a clear roadmap to ₦200-₦300 makes sense. Show us the production cost. Show us the refinery cost. Let the data speak. This is what policy looks like. #VoteHashim #605PetrolPrice
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by dacool1(m): 7:26pm On Aug 31
nairalanda1:
The problem is his plan is essentially trying to control the production cost of fuel based on a set of false assumptions.

He also wants to reintroduce offical rate for dollar

All the above means more borrowing.

Nigerians are btter helped by our economy being productive, not by subsides.
Have we not borrowed more even without subsidies
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by nairalanda1(m): 7:27pm On Aug 31
DARLYNBOI:
When we ask you to list out the false assumptions that you have identified in his proposed solution now....you will go mute....
I already did, upthread, in response to a comment made above

Also, I didn't add one other false assumption. This one is : a government cannot set the production cost of any commodity. It always ends in tears. Ask the USSR.
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by nairalanda1(m): 7:30pm On Aug 31
dacool1:
Have we not borrowed more even without subsidies
Yes because your governments from 2006 to 2023 borrowed massively to find subsides and the budget due to oil price related shortfalls and COVID related shortfalls . And because APC failed to diversify the economy

This created a debt that eats up a lot of our revenue and ironically forces government today to borrow more than ever.

Subsidy removal was meant to try to increase available revenue for spending. It does not address the overall issue of low revenue. It was also forced on us by the massive debt

See how your Tinubu and his predecessors have failed, and why Tinubu has to be removed.
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by dododawa1: 7:40pm On Aug 31
No go follow MOUTH








APC talk pass this one
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by Cromagnon: 7:43pm On Aug 31
Pollion:
It is refreshing to see an approach that prioritizes breaking down the underlying production and refining costs rather than relying solely on international benchmarks.
you've collected your 30k ba
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by NativeGypsy: 7:44pm On Aug 31
This is the kind of economic conversation Nigeria needs. ₦605 as a starting point, with a clear path towards ₦200–₦300 through local refining, lower production costs and a stronger naira. The question is no longer just what petrol costs internationally, but what it should realistically cost Nigerians.
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by Cromagnon: 7:45pm On Aug 31
SixSeven:
It's funny how we went from 70 to over 700 in a short while
effects of socialism
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by Cromagnon: 7:46pm On Aug 31
Rayjay45:
Even Gbenga don dey look like a more credible candidate than that excuse of an incumbent.

Atiku, Obi, Hashim - and Tinubu, now suddenly looking a distant 4th that nobody wants to touch grin

The assignment na to bring back our subsidy and kick out the devils profiting from the suffering of millions of poor Nigerians
and you think they were not profiting from subsidy more than now?
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by Cromagnon: 7:48pm On Aug 31
OSPRO:
I tell ya, we have predators on the helms of affairs. God will destroy everyone who contributed to this suffering.
no he won't
He helps those who help themselves not lazy ppl looking for awoof
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by Cromagnon: 7:50pm On Aug 31
Tareq1105:
I wish Tinubu would agree to step aside for Obi and allow Nigerians to see his ineptitude and see how empty this most hyped presidential candidate is.
Obi ineptitude we have seen in anambra so no need
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by Nomsu247: 7:57pm On Aug 31
If Nigeria can produce its own crude, refine it locally and cut unnecessary costs, why should Nigerians keep paying unbearable prices? Dr. Gbenga’s ₦605 petrol proposal is about making our resources work for the people. This is the kind of leadership Nigeria needs.
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by BozzDaddy(m): 8:05pm On Aug 31
Tareq1105:
I wish Tinubu would agree to step aside for Obi and allow Nigerians to see his ineptitude and see how empty this most hyped presidential candidate is.
This is the problem you many Nigerians that are blind. This post is about a professional in the energy sector that has confidently broken down his plans on how to help Nigeria reduce the cost of fuel if he becomes president. But yet you are calling for Obi who said he doest know Nigeria's problem until he enters as a president. Obi that does not know anything about energy and has never been able to break down a single solution to any of the problem Nigeria is facing today. All you know is that Obi is your choice because you lots are as empty as he is already.
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by soam: 8:31pm On Aug 31
This is an individual with expertise of over 2 decades in the oil and gas sector. I am sure this is an area where he as indepth knowledge.

experts:
Sets out exchange rate, figures behind the price


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Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by BondRiv: 8:44pm On Aug 31
Get ADC in power and make this man the energy minister. The current failure-personified entities holding power won't let this country make progress. You can't do a job, yet you won't step aside. What a curse.
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by benardtotti(m): 8:55pm On Aug 31
experts:
I think you didn't pay attention to his position, especially the main announcement of his policy position.

Hashim made it clear that as producer of crude, we can't allow domestic petrol be dictated by international benchmark.

That's insane and no oil producing country does that.

His calculation is based on actual cost of producing crude, refining and transportation.

It's just like a farmer who produce 100 bags of beans.

If his households eat 20 bags, you can't claim to be selling to your household, just because beans prices rises in the market.

Domestic consumption should be benchmark based on actual cost of production, not international price
Unfortunately oil is not beans , you have jv partners and nnpc doesn't own 100% stake in all oil wells , so they can't just set domestic price like that, see after all these calculations the gbenga guy will still realise he needs money to pay the jv partners to be able to discount crude for refining and also will need dollars to be able to defend the naira to dollars rate of 500 naira to a dollar .

In economics it's called alternative forgone.
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by nairalanda1(m): 9:06pm On Aug 31
Nomsu247:
If Nigeria can produce its own crude, refine it locally and cut unnecessary costs, why should Nigerians keep paying unbearable prices? Dr. Gbenga’s ₦605 petrol proposal is about making our resources work for the people. This is the kind of leadership Nigeria needs.
Because we got to sell that crude at international prices to domestic refiners, because crude is expensive to bring out from the ground.

Selling it cheap does two things. It makes the oil rigs operate at a loss, and by extension jeopardize JV arrangements, leading to fall in crude production due to losses, and it also reduces government revneue, since every barrel of crude sold in Nigeria, yields some revenue for the government...meaning more borrowing for funding budgets, at a time when we got a crushing debt.
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by babzo(m): 9:07pm On Aug 31
SixSeven:
It's funny how we went from 70 to over 700 in a short while
This man.....how did you get access to all these vintage PM News. Did you use to work there.
grin
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by Okhuadams(m): 9:13pm On Aug 31
Just because PBAT allow ur party win osun election. Mind 8sun State is voting APC
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by nairalanda1(m): 9:13pm On Aug 31
SixSeven:
It's funny how we went from 70 to over 700 in a short while
When all your governments, including the ones you supported, and the tinubu government do not do what sane countries did to get strong currencies.
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by LockDown69(m): 9:22pm On Aug 31
See these politicians and whining grin
Re: ₦605 Petrol Only First Step On Affordable Energy - Gbenga Hashim by LockDown69(m): 9:25pm On Aug 31
Una go CRY!! *I'm gheghe's voice* grin
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