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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 7:56pm On Sep 03
Amigoos1:
I understand his frustration as he worked hard to get to this level but without the money no big label is signing Davido. Let's be honest he doesn't have the natural talent for music. The money was why he had studio time , well paid writers, access to top directors and producers. Kudos to him tho he still put in the work and helped other actors grew. After Olamide no other artist have brought up talents like he has.
Leave the song writers part alone. Even micheal Jackson had songs some one else wrote for him. Those songs blew because the artistes sangue them well. The writer could have recorded it himself and flop. Thats what up with drake and his writer too. But that dont mean that the artistes dont write some by themselves as well.

By natural.talent...you mean he cant compose a song, or his voice is not good?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:02pm On Sep 03
Emaprince:
Was it his fathers money that made the songs sound good? If they were same as speed darligntons, will the money make it trend? Was he paying fans to love his music?

His fathers wealth only made it easy for him to have studio money and music video money. His fathers wealth didnt make the songs pleasing to fans.

Only that separate him from street hustlers then Was that, the later couldnt afford studio money, or the money for promo. Are we going to criticize record label for promoting songs of their artistes? Why do we have that energy for Davido? He signed himself cos he had the money. He promoted himself and his songs went global. Leave wealth alone.

And if he had no money, record label might pick him up. With the kind of enthusiasm the lad had in his craft, he was def gonna shine.

You are asking me which label will sign him..most of the artistes that blew up, had some friends that never believed in them when they were still doing demos up and down. "Even solo tell me say I no go blow"..that was from wizkid.

You are probably thinking that because davido have a gruff voice, he couldnt make it. You forgot that this is afro beat and not RnB where you need to sing like rkelly. Fela kuti get sweet voice? Raski them that were signed to the best label, kennis back then are no where near Davido all round talent, but some how you rhink nobody qould have signed him.
Oga, money is instrumental to blowing in the Music Industry, especially in a time where Social Media wasn't hot yet.

I have not attacked his songs anywhere. I am simply telling you that his father's backing brought him up to speed, and that's the truth.

In his 20s, he was already a Top Nigerian star. How many Nigerians at that age got to his spot without money? List them, and I'll wait.

I grew up in the same close where Plantainshun boiz lived. I saw a lot of musicians as a kid and teenager. If you think it's mostly talent that defines how far you go, na lie. Before the arrival of Social Media, you need to spend to be seen. Which talent e use take engage Naeto C wey we never see for Nigeria before? His first single had a music video. Only money can do that

I don't know why you want to make it look like it's a bad thing. His papa money boost him speed to success
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 8:20pm On Sep 03
izzou:
Oga, money is instrumental to blowing in the Music Industry, especially in a time where Social Media wasn't hot yet.

I have not attacked his songs anywhere. I am simply telling you that his father's backing brought him up to speed, and that's the truth.

In his 20s, he was already a Top Nigerian star. How many Nigerians at that age got to his spot without money? List them, and I'll wait.

I grew up in the same close where Plantainshun boiz lived. I saw a lot of musicians as a kid and teenager. If you think it's mostly talent that defines how far you go, na lie. Before the arrival of Social Media, you need to spend to be seen. Which talent e use take engage Naeto C wey we never see for Nigeria before? His first single had a music video. Only money can do that

I don't know why you want to make it look like it's a bad thing. His papa money boost him speed to success
Ofcourse money helped get Naeto c etc. But at the end of the day, that song wasnt even a top song by the time he started churning out other good songs. Omo baba olowo had no feature, and it was loved beyond Nigeria. Thats to show you that there is an extent money can take you after which your talent have to seal the actual deal - and that is giving you all the tool needed to push yourself. But if the work no good, you cant force fans to love it. This is the only advantage he had over street hustlers.

If it is all about money like you are making it, why arent all the talented guys, who have made it to mainstream toppling him out the big 3? Why is he still gaining global dominance over all of them? Definitely not money.

Wizkid made it at 20 annd made real waves. Wande coal was shinning with mohits at 20 -21...Rema sef was very young...and ayra star went global at that age too.

As long as you have the talent and you are making good music under a record label, they will give you that same push davidos money gave him. Thats what it is. If wizkid them had the money, they wont sign with any label..they would pushed themselves too.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 8:26pm On Sep 03
Ibime:
You are forgetting the main thing money does which is pay radio stations and Video DJs to play and to popularise your songs
Naeto C was also from a rich family, white Money is from a rich family, D'prince is the younger brother of the legend Don Jazzy, KC brother na E-money yet them no blow with all the money available to push their music, make una give Davido him flower biko...
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:37pm On Sep 03
Emaprince:
Ofcourse money helped get Naeto c etc. But at the end of the day, that song wasnt even a top song by the time he started churning out other good songs. Omo baba olowo had no feature, and it was loved beyond Nigeria. Thats to show you that there is an extent money can take you after which your talent have to seal the actual deal - and that is giving you all the tool needed to push yourself. But if the work no good, you cant force fans to love it. This is the only advantage he had over street hustlers.

If it is all about money like you are making it, why arent all the talented guys, who have made it to mainstream toppling him out the big 3? Why is he still gaining global dominance over all of them? Definitely not money.

Wizkid made it at 20 annd made real waves. Wande coal was shinning with mohits at 20 -21...Rema sef was very young...and ayra star went global at that age too.

As long as you have the talent and you are making good music under a record label, they will give you that same push davidos money gave him. Thats what it is. If wizkid them had the money, they wont sign with any label..they would pushed themselves too.
Again, you are making it sound like I said he's not talented

Nobody is talking about today. Davido stayed up because he's talented. I agree.

But what made you and me know him is largely influenced by the money spent on him. It's as simple as that, and nobody should be apologetic about it.

Ochacho Pikin dey sing and the kid is not bad. But do you think you'll know about him without the PR done on him so far?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ihebu4chelsea(m): 8:40pm On Sep 03
izzou:
His first official single was "Back when" featuring Naeto C.

How do you separate his father's wealth from his success?

If Cuppy had blown, will you say it was mostly her talent? I don't know why this talk irritates them.

Let Davido find a 10 talented artistes, and let them blow without little financial support and less social media efforts. Let's see how fast they all get noticed
why didn't cuppy blow?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:43pm On Sep 03
Ihebu4chelsea:
why didn't cuppy blow?
I don't know.

But what made you know Cuppy was her father's influence.

Abi did you know her randomly?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:45pm On Sep 03
Femi Otedola wrote that his first break into business was a loan of 400,000 pounds from his father.

Is Femi a good business? Absolutely yes

But don't you think that the 400,000 pounds boosted him? Without it, maybe he would just own one or two filling stations today.

What is bad in admitting that you got a head start?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by KingTom(m): 9:02pm On Sep 03
So Naeto C no blow? You sef Give Naeto C him flowers grin grin grin
TrebleChamp:
Naeto C was also from a rich family, white Money is from a rich family, D'prince is the younger brother of the legend Don Jazzy, KC brother na E-money yet them no blow with all the money available to push their music, make una give Davido him flower biko...
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:33pm On Sep 03
izzou:
Again, you are making it sound like I said he's not talented

Nobody is talking about today. Davido stayed up because he's talented. I agree.

But what made you and me know him is largely influenced by the money spent on him. It's as simple as that, and nobody should be apologetic about it.

Ochacho Pikin dey sing and the kid is not bad. But do you think you'll know about him without the PR done on him so far?
The issue is Davido and his fans like Emaprince are making up imaginary arguments and fighting haters.

It was Davido himself that told everyone that cares to listen that he is Omo baba Olowo. He sings about his father being wealthy,so I wonder why he gets offended when people attribute his commercial success partly to his father's wealth.

Davido actually needs to do some growing up whether he likes it or not. There's a limit to how long he can keep playing the victim card..... Like someone pointed up there, no be only him be Naija artist wey him papa get money. Naeto C's mum was a minister at some point in this country and he wasn't moaning about imaginary haters all the time.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 10:59pm On Sep 03
Emaprince:
I will make excuses for Davido here.

The lad have been shaded for coming from a rich pop always. People even try to discredit his hard work and attribute his musical success and rise to fame to his affluent background. It is frustrating to work this hard and earn maintsream success, but some haters wouldnt give him that credit, but rather make it seem like he wouldnt blow without money.

There is only one person that will take Eriggas post wrongly - It is the same person that have been hounded with this narrative of "you made it in music because your dad is rich".

It is also very possible that was a shade to Davido.
https://www.nairaland.com/8741129/god-forbid-god-never-give
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:03pm On Sep 03
BlueRayDick:
The issue is Davido and his fans like Emaprince are making up imaginary arguments and fighting haters.

It was Davido himself that told everyone that cares to listen that he is Omo baba Olowo. He sings about his father being wealthy,so I wonder why he gets offended when people attribute his commercial success partly to his father's wealth.

Davido actually needs to do some growing up whether he likes it or not. There's a limit to how long he can keep playing the victim card..... Like someone pointed up there, no be only him be Naija artist wey him papa get money. Naeto C's mum was a minister at some point in this country and he wasn't moaning about imaginary haters all the time.
I tire

I think he just wants to prove that he made it without anything. He wants to be classified in that category, which isn't true.

I don't know what's wrong with Erigga's tweet. People made it out of absolutely nothing. From music, sports, business, etc. there are grass to grace stories. Make dem no celebrate themselves because Davido no like am?

Very childish, I must confess
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblemm: 11:15pm On Sep 03
I predicted this ,now why would Iran attack a country that can level their economy in a single blow?

Hama made me understand jihad mentally well ,I told myself if these guys looked at the level of destruction around them perhaps they'll realize how pointless their war is.

But jihadist thinks like this "one more sacrifice,no matter what even if the world burn ,even if my people suffer, I'll be with Allah".

Anyways get ready for fuel to skyrocket.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by airmark(m): 11:38pm On Sep 03
Who is following the story of one Hassan that named a serving Senator from Bauchi as a major sponsor of bandits in the Northern part of Naija?

He was interviewed by one guy with handle - English Alhaji. That country is gone.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:43pm On Sep 03
airmark:
Who is following the story of one Hassan that named a serving Senator from Bauchi as a major sponsor of bandits in the Northern part of Naija?

He was interviewed by one guy with handle - English Alhaji. That country is gone.
This is part one nau

The Supreme Sharia Council has written a memo asking the DSS not to investigate the Senator. They said the points are baseless and the Senator is a humanitarian and blah blah blah.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:44pm On Sep 03
After Almighty God, na Wike. grin

Ronald17, come and carry your guy

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by airmark(m): 11:54pm On Sep 03
izzou:
This is part one nau

The Supreme Sharia Council has written a memo asking the DSS not to investigate the Senator. They said the points are baseless and the Senator is a humanitarian and blah blah blah.
Really? shocked

I just stumbled on the story this week. When did they write the memo? Best way is for each region to break away. This is unbelievable if it’s true.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 11:56pm On Sep 03
izzou:
After Almighty God, na Wike. grin

, come and carry your guy
Y'all gon learn

itsrm warned us about Wike we think say he dey make mouth
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:56pm On Sep 03
raumdeuter:
Y'all gon learn

itsrm warned us about Wike we think say he dey make mouth
This one no be man nau

Very embarrassing grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:59pm On Sep 03
airmark:
Really? shocked

I just stumbled on the story this week. When did they write the memo? Best way is for each region to break away. This is unbelievable if it’s true.
Yes...

Even English Alhaji said he has received a lot of DMs threatening his life.

There's a memo of the Supreme Sharia Council asking the DSS to dismiss any allegations against the Senator. It remains for it to be confirmed.

Yes, it's that bad
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shegzdave: 12:02am On Sep 04
KingTom:
So Naeto C no blow? You sef Give Naeto C him flowers grin grin grin
Him quickly collect Naeto C flowers but wants them to give Osakpolo his flowers grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by PDPGuy: 12:48am On Sep 04
What do you make of David Hundeyin’s piece on Uber Nigeria?
For the record, Uber never made or intended to make money in Nigeria. Anyone who is familiar with Uber's core business model knew this since 2015. Uber's business model is to enter a market, set its fares well below those of the existing traditional taxis, burn VC money to absorb the losses while driving taxis out of the market, then raise prices after it becomes a monopoly.

That model needs a large middle market segment to work - people who don't own or drive their own cars but have enough discretionary income to regularly pay for comfy private transport. In Lagos and Abuja, there are only maybe a couple of hundred thousand people within that income segment. People above it who own their own cars and/or have their own personal driver don't need a ride hailing service, and the vast majority below it who don't, generally aren't willing to pay even the VC-subsidised "cheap" fares because what is considered "cheap" in San Francisco is definitely not cheap in Bariga.

In the ideal market, Uber is only competing against the traditional taxi. In the extremely price-sensitive environment of Nigeria, the opportunity cost of taking an Uber in the minds of the addressable market is the cost savings one can make from taking a danfo, BRT bus, korope, keke, okada, or even literally walking instead. All the VC dollars in the world cannot subsidise a trip made in a low-capacity, air-conditioned, 4-wheeled car into ever becoming cheaper than a bus or rickshaw trip over the same distance. The only people who were regularly and predictably using Uber to get around were a small minority of well-heeled, mainly female customers who chose not to own or drive their own vehicle for various reasons - and this was far too small a market segment to build the Uber business model on. The mathematics made no sense from day 1.

Also from a driver and cars POV, Uber is known to operate like a pyramid scheme. It depends on a constant stream of new drivers and cars being onboarded onto the platform to replace the drivers and car owners who drop out in vast numbers everyday after realising that after fuel, repairs and depreciation costs in Nigeria, it is mathematically impossible to make any real money on Uber. The best one can do with it (as I did for 3 months in 2016) is just use it to temporarily get by - but the fuel costs will eat nearly half of whatever you make, the repairs will be expensive and incessant, and your car will be transformed into a pile of moving metal trash with next to no resale value.

There was no real business case for Uber Nigeria, and this was known as far back as 2015 just 1 year after launch. The real reason it stayed another 11 years after the entire initial set of drivers and car owners pulled out citing everything I just said, is that its real business in Nigeria was not ride hailing, but **data gathering.**

Uber is part of the US military industrial complex, like every other thing out of Silicon Valley. Edward Snowden's leaked files already showed us that the American NSA uses Uber, Lyft etc as its "God's Eye" system, giving the US government round the clock surveillance access into where people go, what routes they use, what items they buy, what social relationships they have etc. Thinking of Uber as just a ride hailing app is like thinking of Google as just a search engine.

Over 12 years in Lagos and Abuja, the data Uber has collected would have given whoever gathered it some extremely useful, and possibly dangerous insights into whoever might be a person of interest. The data would include people's home address, work addresses, which Airbnbs they book to meet their side pieces, which takeaway restaurant they order from, what pharmacy they buy condoms or morning after pills from, what routes they take to work and back, where their kids go to school...

I'm willing to bet that the decision to end Uber's presence in Nigeria was not sudden at all, but merely the expiration of whatever US government contract it was executing.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by popizaino(m):
BlueRayDick:
What exactly is wrong with Davido? Can't even understand what triggered him in this Erigga's tweet that was clearly not a diss but a shout-out to street hustlers. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Later his stans will claim "they hate him because him papa get money"...... Shey no be him carry torchlight dey hunt for hate all over the internet like this?
Stop being economical with truth,this tweet here has everything to do with Davido.

Apart from Naeto C who probably doesn't sing anymore, how many present artists comes from family money, if not Davido? Who has been trolled with family money over the years if not Davido?

If Erriga's intention was to motivate poor musicians and not being petty,the sentence "come from family money" would have been omitted from his tweet.

A simple "Shout-out to every musician out there,one day our hustle go pay" would have been more appropriate than that shade above

Whether your family has money or not,every musician out there are all grinding to be more successful,so he shouldn't single out those with without family money as if they are working harder than those with family money.

Imagine me coming here to say, only irrational people be living abroad and be supporting Apc and Tinubu and you tell me it has nothing to do with raumd.euter?

You can like Erriga for his street cred and hate Davido for his frog voice but truth must be told,that tweet was a shade.

God let Chelsea win the Epl this year,is different from God don't let any team defend the epl title again.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:33am On Sep 04
PDPGuy:
What do you make of David Hundeyin’s piece on Uber Nigeria?
The usual paranoid bs from.
Hundeyin

Google, facebook, WhatsApp, Instagram Etal are already harvesting our data. What information would Uber which by his own account was only for a small contingent of well heeled women gather?

The real data infiltration and interception imho is from all the zte and Huawei modems we are using. I am sure China has backdoors and is capturing sensitive emails, passwords etc that would be of use to Chinese interests. China owns seplat. So if seplat is bidding against a Nigerian company,they can intercept all that Nigerian companies internal communications.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:42am On Sep 04
izzou:
This one no be man nau

Very embarrassing grin
You want him to comot with only the clothes on his back?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 2:44am On Sep 04
popizaino:
Stop being economical with truth,this tweet here has everything to do with Davido.

Apart from Naeto C who probably doesn't sing anymore, how many present artists comes from family money, if not Davido? Who has been trolled with family money over the years if not Davido?

If Erriga's intention was to motivate poor musicians and not being petty,the sentence "come from family money" would have been omitted from his tweet.

A simple "Shout-out to every musician out there,one day our hustle go pay" would have been more appropriate than that shade above

Whether your family has money or not,every musician out there are all grinding to be more successful,so he shouldn't single out those with without family money as if they are working harder than those with family money.

Imagine me coming here to say, only irrational people be living abroad and be supporting Apc and Tinubu and you tell me it has nothing to do with raumd.euter?

You can like Erriga for his street cred and hate Davido for his frog voice but truth must be told,that tweet was a shade.

God let Chelsea win the Epl this year,is different from God don't let any team defend the epl title again.
How is SHOUT OUT TO MUSICIANS WHOSE FAMILIES WERE POOR & HAD TO GRIND TO MAKE EVERY DOLLAR = Those Whose Families are rich do not work hard? ?

Can't u see how irrational and lesser thinking of oneself someone has to be to reason the way Davido did? I mean the kind of mental degradation he had to do to himself to jump out of nowhere reading meanings into Erigga's tweet just shows the self esteem issues he must have been battling with.

A search of Davido on Erigga's tweet history shows he's always had respect and admiration for Davido's craft. That alone makes Davido's attamot to claim victimization from Erigga fall on its face.

The truth is sooner or later Davido will have to grow up and behave like an adult and stop hunting the internet for imaginary haters. People who act like he's presently doing will find it hard to enjoy satisfaction that comes with hardwork paying off cos he has already defeated himself mentally.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 4:01am On Sep 04
Amigoos1:
Is there actually any health benefits to male circumcision?
Lower risk of Urinary tract infection especially in infancy
Lower risk of Balanitis
Lower risk of HIV
Lower risk of HPV
Lower risk of Syphilis
Lower risk of Genital Herpes
Lower risk of Penile cancer
Practically eliminates risk of Phimosis and Paraphimosis

abbl.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m): 4:28am On Sep 04
izzou:
After Almighty God, na Wike. grin

Ronald17, come and carry your guy
We don accept our L na to move on. We fought a good fight but Oga na Master..

As tenure don dey end, na to loot based on sharing formula that N1.8T appropriation bill.

Agreement na agreement. Enye deba, enye deba!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 4:31am On Sep 04
Roland17:
We don accept our L na to move on. We fought a good fight but Oga na Master..

As tenure don dey end, na to loot based on sharing formula that N1.8T appropriation bill.

Agreement na agreement. Enye deba, enye deba!
Gba fun oga e.

Wike humble many people here. It is never wise to bet against a wicked person in a dirty game.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 6:43am On Sep 04
KingTom:
So Naeto C no blow? You sef Give Naeto C him flowers grin grin grin
Naeto C no blow like them PSquare, Tubaba and co during his time with all the money available to him, Davido blow and succeed as an artist because his songs are very good. Money go help you record songs but na raw talent go keep you in the game and make you succeed..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 7:03am On Sep 04
TrebleChamp:
Naeto C no blow like them PSquare, Tubaba and co during his time with all the money available to him, Davido blow and succeed as an artist because his songs are very good. Money go help you record songs but na raw talent go keep you in the game and make you succeed..
Na you no sabi the only Mc with Msc
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 7:10am On Sep 04
People hailing Wike when it was dictator Tinubu that illegally removed Fubara from office for 6 months, if Buhari was anything like dictator Tinubu Amaechi would have used him to destroy Wike influence in Rivers. Fubara fought well but dictator Tinubu took side and rescued Wike...
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