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It's common News today that Islamists are killing Christians in many lands but is religion the real reason for such attacks?

Before we answer this question let's see how Jesus taught his followers to go about their religious activities then we'll figure out if any sane human could think of forming a terrorist group against Jesus' disciples.

Jesus taught his disciples to always lay low everywhere they go {Matthew 10:16} so no one can easily notice them as their kingdom (government) is no part of this world. John 17:14-16
Jesus taught them to pay a friendly visit to neighbors and introduce themselves as friends in the neighborhood who believe in God's promises regarding the future of mankind! Matthew 10:7

This means they are not to shout in the streets so as not disturb the peace of their neighbors neither to call attention to themselves {Matthew 12:19} but going to talk to individuals presenting their message in a way not to offend anyone. Matthew 10:16

What about the politics or rulership of their society?
Should disciples of Christ contest for public offices?
Should they participate in selecting the rulers in the society?
To be Continued....

Let's answer these three questions!
What about the politics or rulership of their society?
Should disciples of Christ contest for public offices?
Should they participate in selecting the rulers in the society?

Regarding the politics going on around the world something happened to Jesus that exposed the person behind human government today. Satan offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the world and said:
“I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. If you, therefore, do an act of worship before me, it will all be yours.” Luke 4:6-7
So going by what transpired between Satan and Jesus it's the devil that's ruling the world {2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} Satan places human agents in different geographic locations on this planet as his corulers that is why Christians in the first century never participate in politics just as their leader also did! John 5:16

What about participating in choosing a ruler in their society?
Imagine some Christians prefer one ruler to another is it possible for all Christians to agree on one particular candidate?
OK let's imagine they agreed will they still love their unbelieving neighbors just as Jesus commanded them if their neighbors prefer the other candidate?

So let's solve the puzzle!

If Christians should agree on one candidate (which is not possible) then their will be hatred either for or from people who are of the other candidate this is what Jesus strictly warned them against {Mark 12:31} and if each Christian should go for the candidate of his choice will there be love among them as Jesus commanded? John 13:34-35

Of course Satan knew very well that if the Christians are left alone to continue preaching and teaching only about God's Kingdom (government) most people throughout the world will get the sense of dedicating themselves to God's Kingdom and its predestined King Christ Jesus so to cause confusion and distraction for Christians Satan introduced some Christians to politics just as he did to the founder of Christianity but unlike Jesus who is filled with God's holy spirit some Christians fell for the bait and began to meddle with worldly politics, the apostles who walked with Jesus during his ministry were opposed to this move so members of the first century Christians community who wants to participate in politics started speaking abusively of the apostles and elders in their congregations! 3John:9

For your information that is the beginning of what the apostles called the AntiChrist {1John 2:18} Jesus who is the founder of Christianity was fully opposed to worldly politics because worldly politics has some things that no one who engages in it could avoid completely they are:

Sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry, witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions, envy; drunkenness, orgies. Galatians 5:19-21 NIV‬

Whereas the qualities a Christian should be targeting to out on as the new person we supposed to be in Christ are:
LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, FAITHFULNESS, GENTLENESS and SELF-CONTROL. ‭Galatians 5:22-23 NIV‬

So Satan subtly introduced politics into the Christian congregations after killing all the apostles gradually most people fell for it {Matthew 13:25} so after they got political affluence they squashed the faith of the minority Christians who keeps opposing political association in the congregations and finally true Christianity disappeared leaving only the words of inspired writers we know today as BIBLE!

To be continued...

Gradually the group that was supposed to have been the world's most peaceful group {Act 1:8} as taught by the world's most wonderful counselor and the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} is now known to be the killer group going from town to town and city of city forcing their beliefs on people both far and near claiming they are crusaders for Jesus the peaceful teacher! 😟

Some six centuries later a man was born in Saudi Arabia whose ambition was to become great but since he came from a humble background he couldn't achieve his goal so he decided to use religion as a ticket to become great.
In Mecca where he was born each family house has their deity which makes it difficult for anyone to use religion as a means of gaining affluence so Muhammad picked the idea of only one God from the Jews but since Jews only believe in prophets that hail from their own brothers (Jacob's twelve tribes) {Deuteronomy 18:18}} Muhammad took side with Roman Catholics who says Jesus handed over God's Kingdom promises to another nation after they have dealt ruthlessly with the Jews! Matthew 21:43
Now in-between the two religions Muhammad decided to establish his own he disagreed with the Catholics as they say Jesus is part of the Trinity which means if Muhammad accepts what the Catholics said he must become a worshiper of Jesus, he also disagree with the Jews who believes that whoever wants to worship their God must practice Judaism.
So he chose a life course of self acclaimed spiritualist/prophet opposing his own people over the worship of multiple gods.
To establish himself he needs to start from somewhere but since both Judaists and Roman Catholics won't give him what he desired he preferred to stay on his own.
The Roman Catholic was established by a Roman emperor who wanted to rule the whole world on the other hand Jews expecting a Messiah also believe it's their turn to rule over the world that made both religions violent therefore Muhammad who also wanted to establish himself as the last prophet from the same God had to go violent.

But what if it was the real Christians as Jesus commanded them that existed in the time Muhammad walked the earth can he prove he is God's prophet using violence?

Of course not!
So it's the same thing these three religions are pursuing till today but the real Christians don't believe in dominating the world through violence rather they believe Jesus who said his Kingdom (Government) is not from this source! John 18:36

Today politicians using religion as cover are surely fighting their opposers that is what is happening in the world around us it will be shocking to many if i tell you that the true Christians are in the world's most racist Islamic nations yet nobody is attacking them because of religion!

How is that possible?
1. Remember they don't shout in their neighborhood {Matthew 12:19} so that means radical Islamic clerics who feels important due to their position in the society can't see them as a threat.

2. They don't meddle in politics so those fighting and killing their neighbors due to public offices won't see them as a threat to their political ambitions.

3. They don't participate in choosing a ruler in any society so when opposing parties are planning evil against their rivals they won't even think of Christians who are neutral.

4. When politicians are looking for thugs to use during elections or political struggles true Christians who are easygoing and harmless as dove won't show up? Matthew 10:16

So what exactly could make Christians have organized enemies?

Let's go back to the first century and see why the Jews hated Jesus and his disciples with passion!

To be Continued...

What exactly could make Christians have organized enemies?

Jesus said:

"Indeed, a man’s enemies will be those of his own household" Matthew 10:36

The real enemies of Christians are not people who don't know us rather they are our own relatives/people who think we have lost our sanity {Mark 3:21; John 10:20} these are the people who will instigate other families having true Christians among them to join hands in attacking the Christians! Act 13:45; 14:2; 17:5

In most lands rulers don't know what exactly true Christians have done to warrant such hatred {Luke 23:16, 22} but then our own people will now look for accusations that those in authority may found difficult to understand. Luke 23:2; Matthew 5:11-12

For instance in Nigeria around 1983 some religionists claiming Christians told the rulers that JWs hate the nation as they don't recite the national anthem and the pledge {Daniel 3:8-12} the then military regime degreed that whoever refuses to recite the national anthem or pledge should be sacked with immediate effect and any student who refuses should be expelled.

A year later another military regime took over power and ruled out that decree.

In Russia 2017 some religionists claiming Christians reported to Vladimir Putin that Jehovah's Witnesses are spies working for the American government against Russia that's why they are preaching that people should not go to war or learn about warfare! Isaiah 2:4

It's nine years now in Russians today if anyone should speak about God or Jesus with his neighbor all what the neighbor needs to do is make a recording and present it to the police as evidence that this person is preaching it attracts prison terms!

So people carrying weapons against people without the permission of the authorities aren't fighting for religious reasons but politics that's why the rulers keep saying it's not about religion!🙂

He that is down need fear no fall!

God's people don't drag anything with the world so they don't even notice us! Ecclesiastes 5:12🙂

Today the false religion disguising to be what it's not is gradually loosing members as most followers aren't proud to declare publicly the name of their church.
Decades ago members of the churches do preach in buses and afterwards they will announce the name of their church for everyone to know where such teaching is coming from but today you'll see them preach and say:
"You can attend any Bible believing church"
So they know very well that the churches have lost their esteem in the society therefore they are telling people to claim Christians but not to be affiliated to any church after all there is no church that stands out.
But is this how it supposed to be?
Jesus told his disciples saying:

“You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden." ‭Matthew 5:14 NIV‬

This means Christianity supposed to stand out as the world's most adorable group of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:4

But sadly the churches of Christendom have dragged the legacy Jesus laid down in the quagmire with what they are producing in the society.

No wonder politicians are now using them as tools to secure public offices and thus rivals in politics view churches as a threat to their ambitions!😟

Hmmmm.
Islamists are attacking Hindus in India. The Hindu worshipers in return are pulling down their mosques, Chinese government is pulling down mosques, in the streets of London, protests are ongoing because of excesses of Muslims and their demand for shari'a. Ibrahim Traore has problems with Muslims because they defy the laws of the land and blocking major roads while praying and demand for shari'a.

Are these Christians?
From the time of Mohammad, hostility was preached against christians and Jews. In fact, in the solat you recited as a Muslim, Christians and Jews are cursed seventeen times a day.
Mohammed on his death bed still cursed Christians and Jews.

Islam is a religio - political movement aimed at taking over the world with no respect for any religion, government, or race. The aim of Islam is have a global government under a caliph.

Islam is a movement to erase history, culture, religion and replace with Islam. Even the Ruling House on Saudi Arabia today usurped the throne in the name of Islam and subdued the original aboriginals . The same was replicated in the northern Nigeria. The same evil started in yorubaland centuries ago not because of any Adeboye, Kumuyi, Obadare or Babalola.
A sheikh in Ilorin was teaching that Oyo is a village of Ilorin.
So as an JW enthusiast, I. appreciate your zeal for your organization. Bandits, jihadists dó not have respect for you or your organization. They want to take over your headquarters before you re -inherit it in paradise.

Islam is a political movement!!!

MightySparrow:
So as an JW enthusiast, I. appreciate your zeal for your organization. Bandits, jihadists dó not have respect for you or your organization. They want to take over your headquarters before you re -inherit it in paradise.

I have been ignoring you all these while because you are never serious about faith but if you choose to learn i can still consider responding to you.
Jesus our Master, Lord and King never promised us that we will gain RESPECT of politicians or political groups rather he said:
And you will be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a witness to them and the nations. Matthew 10:18

Just as Jesus was taken to Pilates to be punished for his faith the same awaits his real disciples because we are no part of the world that's under the control of Satan! John 17:14-16 compare to 1John 5:19

So whether politicians claim Christians or Muslims or Traditionalists we know they are working for Satan's system so we are not going to participate in their struggles which always leads to hatred and bloodshed. Revelation 6:3-4

Islam never started with wars it began when the Jews attacked Muhammad for speaking in favor of Jesus whom they executed that is why Muhammad hated Jews and Catholics who wants to forcefully convert people in all places claiming they are doing so for Jesus.

When Muhammad realized that his own ambition will be killed if he won't find a lasting solution he fabricated the Surah that says his followers should go and fight back but since both the Jews and Catholics were targeting world dominance Muhammad also picked up a ticket and told his followers that if they don't give up the struggle they will win the whole world for the worship of Allah. From that time Muslims formed the habit of dominating the whole world.

So since we are not interested in world politics they view us as harmless group after all we will not vote against their preferred political candidate neither do we protest against any ruler.

That is what makes us different from all other religions. Today Jehovah is using the pagan country called America to fight for His people throughout the earth just as He used the pagan king Cyrus to free ancient Jews from Babylonian captivity that is why America is propagating DEMOCRACY which means power belongs to the people not few elites. Do not think the fight between America and Islamists is against only Jihadists. America started with Christendom oppression!

MaxInDHouse:
I have been ignoring you all these while because you are never serious about faith but if you choose to learn i can still consider responding to you.
Jesus our Master, Lord and King never promised us that we will gain RESPECT of politicians or political groups rather he said:
And you will be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a witness to them and the nations. Matthew 10:18

Just as Jesus was taken to Pilates to be punished for his faith the same awaits his real disciples because we are no part of the world that's under the control of Satan! John 17:14-16 compare to 1John 5:19

So whether politicians claim Christians or Muslims or Traditionalists we know they are working for Satan's system so we are not going to participate in their struggles which always leads to hatred and bloodshed. Revelation 6:3-4

Islam never started with wars it began when the Jews attacked Muhammad for speaking in favor of Jesus whom they executed that is why Muhammad hated Jews and Catholics who wants to forcefully convert people in all places claiming they are doing so for Jesus.

When Muhammad realized that his own ambition will be killed if he won't find a lasting solution he fabricated the Surah that says his followers should go and fight back but since both the Jews and Catholics were targeting world dominance Muhammad also picked up a ticket and told his followers that if they don't give up the struggle they will win the whole world for the worship of Allah. From that time Muslims formed the habit of dominating the whole world.

So since we are not interested in world politics they view us as harmless group after all we will not vote against their preferred political candidate neither do we protest against any ruler.

That is what makes us different from all other religions. Today Jehovah is using the pagan country called America to fight for His people throughout the earth just as He used the pagan king Cyrus to free ancient Jews from Babylonian captivity that is why America is propagating DEMOCRACY which means power belongs to the people not few elites. Do not think the fight between America and Islamists is against only Jihadists. America started with Christendom oppression!

Thanks for responding this time. I started to question Islam when I lived in the north and one day, it was rumoured that Christians would be attacked. I was living in an Igbo man's house. The man relocated his family to his village and I shared my own three children into three. Some slept in places with people I don't know till date. Reason, if we were together, they could wipe out the whole family. So, some were somewhere to preserve, if possible, alive.
So Sir, in as much as your organization is linked to Jesus, Islam says you are cursed by Allah whether you engage in politics or not. Whether you preach loudly or silently. Whether you practice democracy, monarchy, any kinds. I respect your conviction about Christianity. It's fine only that I don't see things the same way you see them.

I was listening to Abdulazeez Ajagbemokenferi, later Yusuf Adepoju, Adegunwa. Now I stumbled on M. S Bàbá, Go Apologea, San Sharoum, Christian Prince. These argue for and Quran, hadiths, tasfir and the rest.
I had a copy before and read some parts of it and some hadiths.
I think Islam doesn't respect any denominations of Christianity.

That is my finding anyway

Thanks again for responding.

MightySparrow:
Thanks for responding this time. I started to question Islam when I lived in the north and one day, it was rumoured that Christians would be attacked. I was living in an Igbo man's house. The man relocated his family to his village and I shared my own three children into three. Some slept in places with people I don't know till date. Reason, if we were together, they could wipe out the whole family. So, some were somewhere to preserve, if possible, alive. So Sir, in as much as your organization is linked to Jesus, Islam says you are cursed by Allah whether you engage in politics or not. Whether you preach loudly or silently. Whether you practice democracy, monarchy, any kinds. I respect your conviction about Christianity. It's fine only that I don't see things the same way you see them. I was listening to Abdulazeez Ajagbemokenferi, later Yusuf Adepoju, Adegunwa. Now I stumbled on M. S Bàbá, Go Apologea, San Sharoum, Christian Prince. These argue for and Quran, hadiths, tasfir and the rest. I had a copy before and read some parts of it and some hadiths.
I think Islam doesn't respect any denominations of Christianity.
That is my finding anyway
Thanks again for responding.

Muslims offended the guy that's why he is bitter about the religion meanwhile he is against any religion that comes from abroad so i don't view him as someone who is interested in the truth.
As for Islamists we operate in their own countries all we do is study their laws and live by it as long as Muslims don't force anyone to pray all they fight for is to elevate Muhammad above any other prophet and Allah as the true God.
So our mode of preaching in their community is informal in fact it's special pioneers of the faith that preach among them and since we are not opposed to their Sharia they don't see us as a threat.
It's members of Christendom that's the problem because your own people will be telling them that they are going to HELLFIRE for not accepting what you believe and since they also believe in HELLFIRE they feel you are cursing them. Once we discuss with them and ask them if they love God they offer say YES but then when we ask:
"do you think God also love people?"
Most Muslims start thinking differently because it's not easy to convince anyone that the God who intends to roast people alive forever because of blunders committed within less than 100 years is loving!
From there we are able to reason with honest hearted ones among them.

Jesus is not the Almighty God.

There is no Trinity.

There is no literal place called hell.

God will bless the inhabitants of planet earth who chooses to become righteous.

These will make any religionist reason deeply than just swallowing dogmas.🙂

MaxInDHouse:
Muslims offended the guy that's why he is bitter about the religion meanwhile he is against any religion that comes from abroad so i don't view him as someone who is interested in the truth.
As for Islamists we operate in their own countries all we do is study their laws and live by it as long as Muslims don't force anyone to pray all they fight for is to elevate Muhammad above any other prophet and Allah as the true God.
So our mode of preaching in their community is informal in fact it's special pioneers of the faith that preach among them and since we are not opposed to their Sharia they don't see us as a threat.
It's members of Christendom that's the problem because your own people will be telling them that they are going to HELLFIRE for not accepting what you believe and since they also believe in HELLFIRE they feel you are cursing them. Once we discuss with them and ask them if they love God they offer say YES but then when we ask:
"do you think God also love people?"
Most Muslims start thinking differently because it's not easy to convince anyone that the God who intends to roast people alive forever because of blunders committed within less than 100 years is loving!
From there we are able to reason with honest hearted ones among them.

Jesus is not the Almighty God.

There is no Trinity.

There is no literal place called hell.

God will bless the inhabitants of planet earth who chooses to become righteous.

These will make any religionist reason deeply than just swallowing dogmas.🙂

Apart from Trinity and Jesus being Son of God, Islam believes every other thing Christianity believes. In fact Islam talks about Hell fire 🔥 more than Christianity. The hellfire of Islam is funny such that if you listen to music, take photograph, sleep certain way, hellfire is waiting . All Christians no matter what denominations or organizations will go to Islamic hell.

Hell in Islam is for all non Muslims and all Muslims will pass through fire.

MightySparrow:
All Christians no matter what denominations or organizations will go to Islamic hell.

Hell in Islam is for all non Muslims and all all Muslims will pass through fire.

Beliefs doesn't matter to me what really makes sense to me is the FRUIT of each religion {Matthew 7:16-18} so whatever any religion teaches is of little or no relevance until i see the FRUIT.

That is why i don't view JW as one of the denominations of what you call Christians because the FRUIT this group produce is outstandingly great so what any religion says about their beliefs remains just a dogma to me until i see what their gathering is producing!

MaxInDHouse:
Beliefs doesn't matter to me what really makes sense to me is the FRUIT of each religion {Matthew 7:16-18} so whatever any religion teaches is of little or no relevance until i see the FRUIT.

That is why i don't view JW as one of the denominations of what you call Christians because the FRUIT this group produce is outstandingly great so what any religion says about their beliefs remains just a dogma to me until i see what their gathering is producing!

We are saying the same thing. You are entitled to your beliefs and dogmas. But, if your belief is hazardous to me I should be wary of it. JW doesn't post any threats to me neither do I care about its dogma.

But, that Islam says that it is a crime deserving of death for not worshipping Allah is a thing of concern. Why should I be in danger for worshipping or not worshipping at all?
Good luck to you for being a witness. Good luck to me for being a Pentecostal.

MightySparrow:
But, that Islam says that it is a crime deserving of death for not worshipping Allah is a thing of concern. Why should I be in danger for worshipping or not worshipping at all?

All Abrahamic religions are saying the same thing if you are not worshiping my God it's a crime deserving of death.

That is what Jesus himself teaches:

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life" John 3:16

Jesus even said:

"Bring these enemies of mine here who did not want me to become king over them and execute them in front of me.’” Luke 19:27

So Jesus is saying whoever refuses to accept his line of thought is deserving death. The only thing we JWs won't do is raise weapons against anyone since he (Jesus) promised to come and judge the matter himself. But that a religion is saying unbelievers deserves death, that is what all Abrahamic religions are saying!😟

MaxInDHouse:
All Abrahamic religions are saying the same thing if you are not worshiping my God it's a crime deserving of death.

That is what Jesus himself teaches:

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life" John 3:16

Jesus even said:

"Bring these enemies of mine here who did not want me to become king over them and execute them in front of me.’” Luke 19:27

So Jesus is saying whoever refuses to accept his line of thought is deserving death. The only thing we JWs won't do is raise weapons against anyone since he (Jesus) promised to come and judge the matter himself. But that a religion is saying unbelievers deserves death, that is what all Abrahamic religions are saying!😟

Hahahaha
You have started again.
Which Abraham religion: Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Samaritanism,Baháʼí Faith Mandaeism Gnostic traditions, Rastafarianism, Druze?

Judaism does not believe in eternal hell anywhere. I listened to one Rabbi teaching about it. Even their doctrine about birth and death is different from others. I am not sure they believe in afterlife.

Stay your line, inherit Otedola's Mansions.

MightySparrow:
Stay your line.

I have always stayed my lane it's you who keeps on following me and i've told you countless times that you and i aren't worshiping the same God!

MaxInDHouse:
I have always stayed my lane it's you who keeps on following me and i've told you countless times that you and i aren't worshiping the same God!

Protecting and covering up the crimes of pedophiles is evil.

MaxInDHouse:
I have always stayed my lane it's you who keeps on following me and i've told you countless times that you and i aren't worshiping the same God!

Okay. Are you and other Abrahamic faith worshipping the same Allah?

MightySparrow:
Okay. Are you and other Abrahamic faith worshipping the same Allah?

Just two questions will direct you to the right answer.

Jesus said false prophets will be known by their FRUITS! Matthew 7:16-18

Question:

A.
Do false prophets say they worship the same God with all others or their God is different?
B.
Why do true prophets in Bible times (including Jesus) always separate themselves despite being in the same geographic regoy with others?

DoWhatThouWilt:
Protecting and covering up the crimes of pedophiles is evil.

Funny Muslim!🤣