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I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by Cum4me(op): 8:55am On Sep 09
I believe there's great source through which this universe came into existence which religion called God. But I find it difficult to believe Devil is real because the universe is far more bigger than what is written in any books. What we know about this vast universe is just like a drop 💧 of water in an ocean 🌊.
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by ifenes(m): 6:36pm On Sep 09
Cum4me:
I believe there's great source through which this universe came into existence which religion called God. But I find it difficult to believe Devil is real because the universe is far more bigger than what is written in any books. What we know about this vast universe is just like a drop 💧 of water in an ocean 🌊.
Animals don't care about god or satan...they simply exist and live their lives. But humans have created god and satan to give meaning to what they do not understand.. The universe does not need god and the devil. To animals, humans are the devil
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by Dtruthspeaker: 8:33pm On Sep 09
Cum4me:
I believe there's great source through which this universe came into existence which religion called God. But I find it difficult to believe Devil is real because the universe is far more bigger than what is written in any books. What we know about this vast universe is just like a drop 💧 of water in an ocean 🌊.
See how you people confuse yourselves.

You never comot for this hostel called earth were satan dey play with una, yet you dey add universe wey you never see.

And of course who never experience say na the time wen you decide say you don tire for all the bad bad things you don do na im be the time to do good go hard well well?

And na dat time one spirit go kon even make you do the worse thing wey you never even do before?
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by Dtruthspeaker: 8:35pm On Sep 09
Also why is it that it is always only bad people who never know that satan exists?
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by Nobody: 10:09pm On Sep 09
ifenes:
Animals don't care about god or satan...they simply exist and live their lives. But humans have created god and satan to give meaning to what they do not understand.. The universe does not need god and the devil. To animals, humans are the devil
How do you know about animals, are you an animal?
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by Pythagon(m): 10:12pm On Sep 09
Beautifulday:
How do you know about animals, are you an animal?
Are you trolling?
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by Nobody: 10:34pm On Sep 09
Pythagon:
Are you trolling?
On a more serious note. Do you even imagine the animal world?

You guys are impossible.
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by Cum4me(op): 11:11am On Sep 14
ifenes:
Animals don't care about god or satan...they simply exist and live their lives. But humans have created god and satan to give meaning to what they do not understand.. The universe does not need god and the devil. To animals, humans are the devil
you just said it all. They don't care only human dose this. Many are mentally cage by this false religion humans are intelligently dangerous to themselves
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by Truthseeker10:
ifenes:
Animals don't care about god or satan...they simply exist and live their lives. But humans have created god and satan to give meaning to what they do not understand.. The universe does not need god and the devil. To animals, humans are the devil
But you just said that animals don't care about Satan. So why do you say that animals regards humans as devil?
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by martinskelly(m): 2:30pm On Sep 14
ifenes:
Animals don't care about god or satan...they simply exist and live their lives. But humans have created god and satan to give meaning to what they do not understand.. The universe does not need god and the devil. To animals, humans are the devil
This your statement no follow at all.

You say animals don't care about God or Satan, then the ending part of your statement states that "To animals, humans are the devil" as how na?

At least you guys should do well to bring about sound analysis when pushing out narratives on supernatural mysteries.

It's really baffling and unfortunate that so many people only sees things from their own standpoint of view, everything must be logical before they believe.

When science told you that man came from apes, you believed them even without fail but did you ever for once think of how did man come from "Apes" and Apes are still Apes up till now and man have already evolved to being what they are now? No; they said man is a higher animal but every other animals don't talk (knowledge inclusive) except man! Why so?

Beloved, there is God.
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by martinskelly(m): 2:59pm On Sep 14
Cum4me:
I believe there's great source through which this universe came into existence which religion called God. But I find it difficult to believe Devil is real because the universe is far more bigger than what is written in any books. What we know about this vast universe is just like a drop 💧 of water in an ocean 🌊.
Hi, you know what some men of time in memory and some men of this days did or are doing?
They are using false religion to cage humans from the truth.

If something is fake, that only always proof that there was/is an original.

Just because fake prophets/pastors are parading themselves doesn't mean that we don't have real prophets/pastors.

In my few years of human psychology study, I have found out that humans if not all will always want authority with an egocentric characteristics.
Again, I have come to realise that men that don't want "morality scrutiny" will always want to justify "evil act" by all means if and after it's been committed (this is deep anyways).

There is Good and Evil period.
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by Dtruthspeaker: 5:05pm On Sep 14
martinskelly:
This your statement no follow at all.

You say animals don't care about God or Satan, then the ending part of your statement states that "To animals, humans are the devil" as how na?

At least you guys should do well to bring about sound analysis when pushing out narratives on supernatural mysteries.

It's really baffling and unfortunate that so many people only sees things from their own standpoint of view, everything must be logical before they believe.

When science told you that man came from apes, you believed them even without fail but did you ever for once think of how did man come from "Apes" and Apes are still Apes up till now and man have already evolved to being what they are now? No; they said man is a higher animal but every other animals don't talk (knowledge inclusive) except man! Why so?

Beloved, there is God.
Besides, between him and animal who has more thinking and reasoning ability?

Then based on his reasoning and thinking ability in comparison to animals, between them and him who has committed more crimes or evil?

And between him and animals who is guilty of evil and crimes?

And finally if he is the same as animals why is he not arresting animals and charging them to court and sentencing them to prison or death like they do to him?

Clearly the op is delu ing himself knowing that he is entitled to whatever Judgement God should deliver over him
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by martinskelly(m): 7:58pm On Sep 14
Dtruthspeaker:
Besides, between him and animal who has more thinking and reasoning ability?

Then based on his reasoning and thinking ability in comparison to animals, between them and him who has committed more crimes or evil?

And between him and animals who is guilty of evil and crimes?

And finally if he is the same as animals why is he not arresting animals and charging them to court and sentencing them to prison or death like they do to him?

Clearly the op is delu ing himself knowing that he is entitled to whatever Judgement God should deliver over him
I tire for dis kind of humans o, just look at how ignorant the Op can be.

In wanting to commit atrocities, they will always find a one-sided ignorant loopholes in whatever they think religion is and put their bias and naive unreasonable over analytical ideas in pushing their useless narratives to suit whatever lifestyle it brings whether good or bad.

Anyhow people.
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by sonmvayina(m): 9:52pm On Sep 14
Cum4me:
I believe there's great source through which this universe came into existence which religion called God. But I find it difficult to believe Devil is real because the universe is far more bigger than what is written in any books. What we know about this vast universe is just like a drop 💧 of water in an ocean 🌊.
Satan and devil are what the yorubas refer to as Orishas. They are personification of the laws and principles governing life.
Satan is the Orisha of the air, while Devil is the orisha of darkness (symbolized by the moon) The devil is represented by the goat(Capricorn) while Satan is the bull(Taurus) I think so. Lucifer is the virgin or virgo.....She is the orisha of love, wisdom and war and DEATH the bolded is why she is an enemy of God. Because death is deception....it's an illusion. .
Most Christians think the three are the same being. No they are not.
What most people know is that Lucifer wanted to sit with the Senior gods in the heavenly realm. Only few people know she actually succeeded. She literally rose herself to the pantheon. Our real mother(mother nature) was withdrawn and she took her place as the false mother. She and her son is who Christians worship as Mary and Jesus...
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by Truthseeker10: 10:49pm On Sep 14
sonmvayina:
Satan and devil are what the yorubas refer to as Orishas. They are personification of the laws and principles governing life.
Satan is the Orisha of the air, while Devil is the orisha of darkness (symbolized by the moon) The devil is represented by the goat(Capricorn) while Satan is the bull(Taurus) I think so. Lucifer is the virgin or virgo.....She is the orisha of love, wisdom and war and DEATH the bolded is why she is an enemy of God. Because death is deception....it's an illusion. .
Most Christians think the three are the same being. No they are not.
What most people know is that Lucifer wanted to sit with the Senior gods in the heavenly realm. Only few people know she actually succeeded. She literally rose herself to the pantheon. Our real mother(mother nature) was withdrawn and she took her place as the false mother. She and her son is who Christians worship as Mary and Jesus...
So who is Satan according to the Bible?
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by BewareOf419: 11:49pm On Sep 14
Cum4me:
I believe there's great source through which this universe came into existence which religion called God. But I find it difficult to believe Devil is real because the universe is far more bigger than what is written in any books. What we know about this vast universe is just like a drop 💧 of water in an ocean 🌊.
If satan reason your matter for 5min, you go know say he exist
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by sonmvayina(m): 8:58am On Sep 15
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Truthseeker10:
So who is Satan according to the Bible?
The orisha of the wind or air.
But in Judaism, it is used for any body or thing that stands as an obstacle to actualizing your dreams. Like an adversary of some sort.
In literature, he is a member of Gods divine Court, his job is to present reasons why God should with hold his blessings....(Example is in the story of job).
He is not a dual opposite of God.
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by Truthseeker10: 9:39am On Sep 15
sonmvayina:
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The orisha of the wind or air.
But in Judaism, it is used for any body or thing that stands as an obstacle to actualizing your dreams. Like an adversary of some sort.
In literature, he is a member of Gods divine Court, his job is to present reasons why God should with hold his blessings....(Example is in the story of job).
He is not a dual opposite of God.
You are deviating. I asked you a simple question.

Who is Satan according to the Bible? Please quote the bible verse to support your statement.
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by Dtruthspeaker: 10:18am On Sep 15
martinskelly:
I tire for dis kind of humans o, just look at how ignorant the Op can be.

In wanting to commit atrocities, they will always find a one-sided ignorant loopholes in whatever they think religion is and put their bias and naive unreasonable over analytical ideas in pushing their useless narratives to suit whatever lifestyle it brings whether good or bad.

Anyhow people.
Very anyhow people. Their delus don't let them think and because most people are guilty like them, they want to spread their delus to make living comfortable forgetting that even if they get a billion people to join them in delu, they still will never be secured exactly how many kidnappers and thieves are, they must always fear the day police will arrest them, so no peace for the op whether one or 100billion
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by sonmvayina(m): 6:35pm On Sep 16
Truthseeker10:
You are deviating. I asked you a simple question.

Who is Satan according to the Bible? Please quote the bible verse to support your statement.
I did .....it flew over you.

In Judaism, Satan (ha-Satan, שָׂטָן) is not an independent evil force, a fallen angel, or the ruler of Hell, unlike the popular imagery in Christianity. Instead, Satan is a loyal spiritual messenger (angel) working directly under God's command. Core Roles and Meanings The Meaning of the Name: The Hebrew word satan literally translates to "adversary," "hinderer," or "accuser". A Heavenly Prosecutor: In the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) and the Talmud (such as in the Book of Job or tractate Sanhedrin), Satan acts like a prosecuting attorney in the heavenly court. His job is to test human sincerity, point out human flaws, and challenge people to do better. The Yetzer Hara (Evil Inclination): Jewish tradition frequently equates Satan with the yetzer hara—the internal human impulse or urge to act selfishly, foolishly, or against God's will. This impulse is not inherently "wicked" on its own; it provides the necessary friction that gives humans genuine free will to choose good over bad.
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by Truthseeker10: 7:49pm On Sep 16
sonmvayina:
I did .....it flew over you.

In Judaism, Satan (ha-Satan, שָׂטָן) is not an independent evil force, a fallen angel, or the ruler of Hell, unlike the popular imagery in Christianity. Instead, Satan is a loyal spiritual messenger (angel) working directly under God's command. Core Roles and Meanings The Meaning of the Name: The Hebrew word satan literally translates to "adversary," "hinderer," or "accuser". A Heavenly Prosecutor: In the Tanakh (Hebrew Bible) and the Talmud (such as in the Book of Job or tractate Sanhedrin), Satan acts like a prosecuting attorney in the heavenly court. His job is to test human sincerity, point out human flaws, and challenge people to do better. The Yetzer Hara (Evil Inclination): Jewish tradition frequently equates Satan with the yetzer hara—the internal human impulse or urge to act selfishly, foolishly, or against God's will. This impulse is not inherently "wicked" on its own; it provides the necessary friction that gives humans genuine free will to choose good over bad.
Can you quote a bible verse to support the information above? I specifically asked for that.
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by sonmvayina(m): 2:44pm On Sep 23
Truthseeker10:
Can you quote a bible verse to support the information above? I specifically asked for that.
In the Old Tanakh, the Hebrew word satan (שָׂטָן) mostly functions as a common noun or title meaning "adversary," "accuser," or "opposer" rather than a proper name for the ultimate embodiment of evil.Meaning and FunctionGeneral Term: The word appears roughly 27 times in the Hebrew Bible and often describes human enemies, a military opponent, or an angel sent by God to block a path (such as the Angel of the Lord before Balaam in Numbers 22:22).
The "Prosecuting Attorney": When used with the definite article (ha-satan, "the accuser"wink, it refers to a heavenly figure who operates within God's court as an interrogator or tester of human loyalty, rather than a rebel king of hell.Key Old Testament PassagesThe[b] Book of Job (Job 1–2): "The satan" appears[/b] among the sons of God (heavenly beings) attending a divine council. He questions Job’s motives, claiming Job only obeys God because of his blessings, and tests Job with God's permission.Zechariah (3:1–2): "The satan" stands at the right hand of Joshua the High Priest to accuse him of unworthiness.1 Chronicles (21:1): Written as satan without the article, this passage states that "Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census" (though the parallel account in 2 Samuel 24:1 attributes the instigation to the anger of God).
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by Truthseeker10: 11:54am On Sep 25
sonmvayina:
In the Old Tanakh, the Hebrew word satan (שָׂטָן) mostly functions as a common noun or title meaning "adversary," "accuser," or "opposer" rather than a proper name for the ultimate embodiment of evil.Meaning and FunctionGeneral Term: The word appears roughly 27 times in the Hebrew Bible and often describes human enemies, a military opponent, or an angel sent by God to block a path (such as the Angel of the Lord before Balaam in Numbers 22:22).
The "Prosecuting Attorney": When used with the definite article (ha-satan, "the accuser"wink, it refers to a heavenly figure who operates within God's court as an interrogator or tester of human loyalty, rather than a rebel king of hell.Key Old Testament PassagesThe[b] Book of Job (Job 1–2): "The satan" appears[/b] among the sons of God (heavenly beings) attending a divine council. He questions Job’s motives, claiming Job only obeys God because of his blessings, and tests Job with God's permission.Zechariah (3:1–2): "The satan" stands at the right hand of Joshua the High Priest to accuse him of unworthiness.1 Chronicles (21:1): Written as satan without the article, this passage states that "Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census" (though the parallel account in 2 Samuel 24:1 attributes the instigation to the anger of God).
Below is your statement in bold in your previous statement about Satan:

"In Judaism, Satan (ha-Satan, שָׂטָן) is not an independent evil force, a fallen angel, or the ruler of Hell, unlike the popular imagery in Christianity. Instead, Satan is a loyal spiritual messenger (angel) working directly under God's command."

Below is Zechariah 3:2

King James Bible
And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

If Satan is a loyal spiritual messenger working under God's command according to you, why is the LORD rebuking him in the verse above?
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by sonmvayina(m): 1:23pm On Sep 26
Truthseeker10:
Below is your statement in bold in your previous statement about Satan:

"In Judaism, Satan (ha-Satan, שָׂטָן) is not an independent evil force, a fallen angel, or the ruler of Hell, unlike the popular imagery in Christianity. Instead, Satan is a loyal spiritual messenger (angel) working directly under God's command."

Below is Zechariah 3:2

King James Bible
And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

If Satan is a loyal spiritual messenger working under God's command according to you, why is the LORD rebuking him in the verse above?
I don't understand, Have you not seen Tinubu rebuking the inspector general of police before, does it mean he is not a member of the government?
Don't superiors rebuke their subordinates? Does it means they don't work together..?
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by TenQ: 3:51pm On Sep 26
Cum4me:
you just said it all. They don't care only human dose this. Many are mentally cage by this false religion humans are intelligently dangerous to themselves
SMH!

Animals dont care about God
Animals dont care about satan or demons
Animals dont care about Good or Evil
Animals dont care about Morality


Animals CANNOT commit SIN!
Animals CANNOT be EVIL!

Except you compare yourself to one!
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by paxonel(m): 4:28pm On Sep 26
What is Satan?
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:17pm On Sep 26
sonmvayina:
I don't understand, Have you not seen Tinubu rebuking the inspector general of police before, does it mean he is not a member of the government?
Don't superiors rebuke their subordinates? Does it means they don't work together..?
You only rebuke when someone did opposite of what he or she is asked to do but you said spirits are like robots doing only what God asked them to do.

So how come they are rebuked o!🤣
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by Expanse2020(m): 12:44pm On Sep 27
Cum4me:
I believe there's great source through which this universe came into existence which religion called God. But I find it difficult to believe Devil is real because the universe is far more bigger than what is written in any books. What we know about this vast universe is just like a drop 💧 of water in an ocean 🌊.
Jesus created Satan naw
According to the Christian bible óò
Abi mu guy

Antiislam
TenQ
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by TenQ: 1:15pm On Sep 27
Expanse2020:
Jesus created Satan naw
According to the Christian bible óò
Abi mu guy

Antiislam
TenQ
1. So, you ALSO find it difficult to believe Devil is real because the universe is far more bigger than what is written in any books!?

2. Yes! Jesus created the Arch Angel we now call Satan.

Col 1:16-17:
"for in him (Jesus) were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and for him; and he is before all things, and in him all things consist."



By the way!
The word Satan is a TITLE which comes from the Hebrew word שָׂטָן (satan), meaning “adversary,” or “opponent,” or “accuser.”



I heard that Iblis disguised himself as Jibril and gave your prophet verses of the Qur'an. How untrue is this with evidence please?
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by Expanse2020(m): 2:06pm On Sep 27
TenQ:
1. So, you ALSO find it difficult to believe Devil is real because the universe is far more bigger than what is written in any books!?

2.
Yes! Jesus created the Arch Angel we now call Satan.
arch angel is Satan 🤣😂😂
Are you saying Micheal or Gabriel is Satan
Gbam 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[b]Col 1:16-17:

"for in him (Jesus) were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and for him; and he is before all things, and in him all things consist."
[/b]
So Jesus created Satan and Satan carry Jesus trabaye on the mountain, world and the same SATAN promise Jesus to give him everything if Jesus bow to him .....
Does it make sense to you
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jesus wwas promised from a Satan who he created

A slave would be promising his master on the kingdom his doesn't have 🤣🤣🤣


By the way!
The word Satan is a TITLE which comes from the Hebrew word שָׂטָן (satan), meaning “adversary,” or “opponent,” or “accuser.”



I heard that Iblis disguised himself as Jibril and gave your prophet verses of the Qur'an. How untrue is this with evidence please?
Just the Satan was disguise as Gabriel to meet Daniel David, and others right according to you ?


And last question is JESUS GOD?
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by TenQ: 2:58pm On Sep 27
Expanse2020:
Just the Satan was disguise as Gabriel to meet Daniel David, and others right according to you ?


And last question is JESUS GOD?
You know the difference?
1. No Gabriel appeared to Moses
2. Gabriel ALWAYS extends PEACE to whoever he came to.


Secondly,
God is the only One who can give LIFE to an inanimate thing!

Do you agree with this? Then even in Islam God is Jesus the Messiah


The one that met your prophet instead of extending peace to him strangled him almost to death three times and commanded him to read without giving him what to read.

To compound the problem, the apparition that came to Mohammed commanded him to read but instead of receiving ability to read, he remained an illiterate.


Again:
I heard that Iblis disguised himself as Jibril and gave your prophet verses of the Qur'an. How untrue is this with evidence please?
Re: I Found It Difficult To Believe Satan Exist by Expanse2020(m): 5:49pm On Sep 27
TenQ:
You know the difference?
1. No Gabriel appeared to Moses
did I said Gabriel appeared to Moses 🤣😂😂😂 remove the bra in your eyes .. because I mentioned Daniel and co

2.
Gabriel ALWAYS extends PEACE to whoever he came to
say be arch angel is Gabriel, Micheal and they are Satan according to you .... You said arch angel is Satan right


[
b]Secondly,[/b]
God is the only One who can give LIFE to an inanimate thing!
so God created his mother right 🤣🤣
God gave life to his mother


Do you agree with this? Then even in Islam God is Jesus the Messiah
according to Christianity God is Jesus not in Islam and not in Jewish religion too

The one that met your prophet instead of extending peace to him strangled him almost to death three times and commanded him to read without giving him what to read.
just like he made Daniel shifter.. that he faint for some days ...sheybi my prophet no faint but one of yours faint when he met him 🤣😂😂😂🤣
Abi na devil he met that made him faint according to the bible

To compound the problem, the apparition that came to Mohammed commanded him to read but instead of receiving ability to read, he remained an illiterate.
so you don't know different between unlettered and illiterate

You sure say you goes school 🤣😂😂

Again:
I heard that Iblis disguised himself as Jibril and gave your prophet verses of the Qur'an. How untrue is this with evidence please?
is it untrue according to you that Satan disguise as Gabriel to meet Daniel 🤔🤔
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