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100k weekly? As per na only the guy dey drive keke for road

Kobojunkie:
You are not serious if you are not ready to help your family members grow responsibly.😒😒

OK.

motymop:
not bad, dont be entitled to people money

na the brother say make em born 5 kids wey he no fit take care of

he should not give the brother any money

a brand new keke cost around 3.9m naira that is about (2,172.83 pounds) that is a huge chuck of money especially savings)

most family members are entitled and wont follow through with the agreement

Bruv, listen.

It won't be the first time he has helped that elder brother since being in the UK.

A friend once did something similar. A relative in 9ja asked his UK-based brother for help to buy work equipment.

The UK guy decided to test him. He said OK, I will help you, but you must save the amount used to buy the machine from your work. Over, say, 12 months or a reasonable period. Then another relative in the same trade can use the saved money to buy his own equipment.

The reason for the test was to make him work hard with the new equipment. After saving the money, the UK guy intended to NOT take the money from him at all. It was to see if the 9ja brother was willing to work hard to support another relative.

From the UK guy's experience, the brother asking for help always took and never gave. Since childhood.

As expected, the 9ja brother said he didn't want the help anymore.

So, the UK guy instead bought the equipment for their junior brother when he completed his training. Not the entitled brother.

Many of the entitled relatives in 9ja would never render any assistance if they were the ones abroad.

motymop:
not bad, dont be entitled to people money

na the brother say make em born 5 kids wey he no fit take care of

he should not give the brother any money

a brand new keke cost around 3.9m naira that is about (2,172.83 pounds) that is a huge chuck of money especially savings)

most family members are entitled and wont follow through with the agreement

That's the bane of modern Nigerian societies - selfishness. We are talking about family. A family is supposed to be the basic unit of any society. The meaning of family is a group of people often related by blood, who pool resources to advance the wellbeing and security of entire members of that group. The junior brother did not succeed by himself, it took sacrifice and support from other members of his family to get him educated and travel to another country. The parents might have invested in the junior brother hoping he will help other members of the family to succeed, who in turn will help others. That's how Arabs, Jews, Indians, Pakistanis, grow their family units and take over businesses wherever they go. In Nigeria once we make it, with the help of our family, the same family immediately becomes our enemy.
It's an insult for the junior brother to see keke business as the business befitting his senior brother. Its an abomination to ask his junior brother to become his employee, by him remitting N100,000 per week, N400,000 per month, N4.8 million per year. (Not even hire purchase).
Why can't he offer to help his senior brother without anything attached? Maybe sponsor one or two of his children to school or abroad? Typical Nigerian family that doesn't want other members of his family to succeed as him.

Factcheck0001:
it is u who don't understand how money works


If he buys for his brother n collects 100k weekly, in the long run it will cause feud within the family if the brother defaults for long.

On the other hand, if he doesn't buy it n his brother or his brothers children needs an emergency he will still be d one to foot d bills.

If I were to b d UK guy, I will tell my brother I took a loan for him to buy d Keke n it will take me 3 years to pay back the loan.

Then I will give it to him for free with agreement from every member of the family that I won't collect a dime back from him n he shouldn't bother me with anything again.

On that note u have killed 2 birds with one stone, empower the brother n also save yourself from constant calling for billing

the default is what the UK brother wants to hold him accountable for his action. It's a two way thing, and that's how to place favours. If you do well we kiss you and draw you close. If you blow it up, you ar gone forever

The only way this can succeed is if the brother has been in the business before. Then the next question will be, why does he require 'addutional' investment.

From the above it is easy for anyone to deduce that, if the brother is a novice in the business and the additional pressure of a 'fixed' return is imposed (I don't know what the income structure of the business is), there is very little chance it will run smoothly for a prolonged period.

I have heard countless stories of these kinds of interventions from clients, friends and family abroad involving everything from bikes, taxis, trucks, tippers and other mechanical equipment. It rarely works well.

My advice for those abroad. Avoid investing in 'running' businesses, or cash businesses. Rather invest in fixed businesses. If you must invest in 'going' businesses do so as partnerships with your relations as a principal.

wirinet:
That's the bane of modern Nigerian societies - selfishness. We are talking about family. A family is supposed to be the basic unit of any society. The meaning of family is a group of people often related by blood, who pool resources to advance the wellbeing and security of entire members of that group. The junior brother did not succeed by himself, it took sacrifice and support from other members of his family to get him educated and travel to another country. The parents might have invested in the junior brother hoping he will help other members of the family to succeed, who in turn will help others. That's how Arabs, Jews, Indians, Pakistanis, grow their family units and take over businesses wherever they go. In Nigeria once we make it, with the help of our family, the same family immediately becomes our enemy.
It's an insult for the junior brother to see keke business as the business befitting his senior brother. Its an abomination to ask his junior brother to become his employee, by him remitting N100,000 per week, N400,000 per month, N4.8 million per year. (Not even hire purchase).
Why can't he offer to help his senior brother without anything attached? Maybe sponsor one or two of his children to school or abroad? Typical Nigerian family that doesn't want other members of his family to succeed as him.

long story. His UK brother might just want to see seriousness and accountability. If you travel out of Nigeria, it will be hard for you to do favours without accountability

If the brother with 5 kids don't like the terms and condition he should go buy his own Keke. Nonsense! Useless brother!

If i tell una wetin my own brother did to me una no go believe, he even threatned to kee me on top of my own money wey i help am wit we have'nt spoken to each other for nearly 10 years now.

motymop:
not bad, dont be entitled to people money

na the brother say make em born 5 kids wey he no fit take care of

he should not give the brother any money

a brand new keke cost around 3.9m naira that is about (2,172.83 pounds) that is a huge chuck of money especially savings)

most family members are entitled and wont follow through with the agreement

There's a difference between Business and help. If he wants to do business he should give the keke to a non family member, but if the goal is to help his brother then 100k a week is too much

Na wah, UK based people and their owu mentality. His own brother for that matter? 😳
Even if you want to recover the money why not give him good terms of repayment atleast less than the going rate so he knows his brother abroad helped him Eg if normal delivery is 100k weekly, make it 50k so he can improve his life and that of his family?
This uk guyman instead want to create a situation where his brother will default then he will come on this forum to tell the usual tales of how his bro in naija is so usless, he bought him Keke but he squandered it.
May all might not place us in the situation we have to rely on anybody for survival.

showboy2301:
It’s better to give it to an outsider than his brother, or to reduce the weekly returns so that his brother can be comfortable too. Meanwhile the brother will make some money on the keke unless he’s lazy.

It’s a good business idea though

How much is the normal weekly delivery, any idea?

DAramis:
He went too far. When it comes to family members (especially immediate ones), it is disgusting to monitize the help.

It is either you are helping with no strings attached or you are not.

Well said.

There is a reason why we are still tagged third world.

Do things the right way first, worry about emotions later. The funds generated with the business could still be given to the brother for a bigger business but the agreement should stand. It is very important!

Most families struggle in and out of persistent poverty because we bend rules easily and have no respect for enduring standards. In a few years the brother moves to a bigger business and the Keke can be given to another upcoming family member, also on contract.

PLEASE MONITIZE YOUR HELP. Let's build generational wealth together not generational excuses.

motymop:
not bad, dont be entitled to people money

na the brother say make em born 5 kids wey he no fit take care of

he should not give the brother any money

a brand new keke cost around 3.9m naira that is about (2,172.83 pounds) that is a huge chuck of money especially savings)

most family members are entitled and wont follow through with the agreement

Imagine your mentality, abi is it not family you are talking about, abi did you grow up in a polygamous home and even at that no be your sibling?
If tomorrow that your relative becomes someone of influence only you will rush down to naija to do contract etc.

The family self too dey rush them for wait first mmake him buy the keke first now then make we see watin him go do if the elder brother don't remit money to him accordingly.

mecuries:
100k weekly? As per na only the guy dey drive keke for road

20k a day is normal remittance in Lagos.

Back to the story, entitlement quickly enters things like this: that is why the brother was wise enough to request for everything in writing.

The elder brother choose the life he is living, 5 kids, was one of his choices. I would just advise the younger brother not to proceed with this and dash him any small money he can afford.

Business never even start elder brother is already feeling entitled to preferential treatment. Does he know if his younger brother is washing toilets in UK to earn his keep.

If the money was easily to make the elder brother should go and make his own money by himself

dominique:
This is so belittling my goodness! He does not want to help his brother, he wants to do business and have his older brother as his worker, very wrong on many levels. If Keke business is entering his eyes, he should buy it and give it out to to a non relative or a younger relative.

You said it all!

Harddiskng:
20k a day is normal remittances in Lagos.

Back to the story, entitlement quickly enters things like this: that is why the brother was wise enough to have everything in write.

The elder brother choose the life he is living, 5 kids, was one of his choices. I would just advise the younger brother not to proceed and dash him any small money he can afford.

Business never even start elder brother is already feeling entitled to preferential treatment. Doesn’t he know if his younger brother is washing toilets in UK to earn his keep.

If the money was easily to make the elder brother should go and make his own money by himself

Na wah for you.

He did the right thing. How can the elder brother not want to repay the loan he is getting without any collateral. Does he think the younger brother gets the money for free in UK.

Na wa oo...you no help na wahala you wan help again na wahala. Some people get cap but no get head while some people get head but no cap.

After remiting 100k weekly the elder brother could be resting on 200k to 300k weekly on that keke business isn't that fair enough?

He didn't go too far. Let him do it that way. But let him make it as a savings for his brother. He won't tell his brother that he is keeping the money as savings for him. Because if he doesn't do that way, his brother will just be spending money anyhow, he may not even have one naira in savings. If the Keke spoil and if he doesn't have money to repair it, he can loan him from the savings he is keeping for him. After like two years of savings and there is enough money to buy another Keke, then he can open up to him that the money he has been collecting from him as been kept as savings.

dominique:
This is so belittling my goodness! He does not want to help his brother, he wants to do business and have his older brother as his worker, very wrong on many levels. If Keke business is entering his eyes, he should buy it and give it out to to a non relative or a younger relative.

Why not go and buy the Keke for him? Is it your money? Is it his brother's money? Do you know how he's toiling to make money in the UK? One person chose to make babies; another chose to hustle, yet you're trying to judge the other because of his choice to go hustle. If his brother had remained in Nigeria and also had babies, would he even have the opportunity of someone offering to buy him a Keke? You think it's easy, right? Go out and hustle in the cold first and send the money to someone doing nothing.

SAMAJ:
He should help his brother if he wants to help. He should buy the Keke and gift it out to his brother but with the clause that the brother should not bring any money matter to him any longer.

Na lie. If he doesn't manage the money well, he will still cry to his brother again if he doesn't have money to repair the Keke. And the brother will have no other choice than to give money again. One thing people should know is that, most people become poor because they cannot manage money. So no matter the amount of money you give them, they will still go broke again. So the best thing is to force his brother to save money by collecting some amount of money from him to save for him. He might reduce it to like 50k.

God bless you for this hard truth. We are experts at emotional manipulation instead of facing the truth.

samuelson06:
Why not go and buy the Keke for him? Is it your money? Is it his brother's money? Do you know how he's toiling to make money in the UK? One person chose to make babies; another chose to hustle, yet you're trying to judge the other because of his choice to go hustle. If his brother had remained in Nigeria and also had babies, would he even have the opportunity of someone offering to buy him a Keke? You think it's easy, right? Go out and hustle in the cold first and send the money to someone doing nothing.

nedekid:
How much is the normal weekly delivery, any idea?

If you are putting it on instalment, you should receive about 70/75/80k weekly depending on your agreement and how long he wants to pay the money. And the rider will be the one to repair it each time it gets any fault

motymop:
not bad, dont be entitled to people money

na the brother say make em born 5 kids wey he no fit take care of

he should not give the brother any money

a brand new keke cost around 3.9m naira that is about (2,172.83 pounds) that is a huge chuck of money especially savings)

most family members are entitled and wont follow through with the agreement

then he should rather go give it to an outsider wey go carry the keke run naw Abi why his brother....most people from UK are just stingy ,imagine you want to enslave your blood brother

May God not give anyone this kind of younger brother

gracias124:
if getting 2300 pounds in the UK is hard as getting 4million in Nigeria then I will never japa

That's is a basic pay for anyone who works in the UK monthly meanwhile 4m are only for high end earners in Nigeria.

Apcshit:
That's why you can never travel abroad

It is obvious you don't have much experience. When someone, weda relatives or outsider asks u for money for business they have never used their money to start, it is an error to give them. 90% of this business end up being abandoned.
Only support people who have used their own money to start a business and they are struggling to cope.

lightwind:
Which Keke is 3.9 million ?

In Warri Delta State here brand new Keke is 5.5 million naira as of today... I don't know about other part's of Nigeria

Say no more, you say? 5.5 million? Hmmmm

LabStores:
If you want help, help
Which one is him remitting 100k weekly?
To your own blood brother? How is that feasible?

Bros it depends on the type of brother we are talking about here. There are some brothers or relatives that are as good as not having relatives when it comes money matters. There is something fundamentally wrong with a man, with 5 children, looking for someone to buy keke for him.

Habaaaa.... 100k per week is too much nah... U wan kill the guy?

motymop:
not bad, dont be entitled to people money

na the brother say make em born 5 kids wey he no fit take care of

he should not give the brother any money

a brand new keke cost around 3.9m naira that is about (2,172.83 pounds) that is a huge chuck of money especially savings)

most family members are entitled and wont follow through with the agreement

Pray never to find yourself at the receiving end of things.