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Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by Biodun556(m): 11:01am On Sep 15
IyfeNamikaze:
if they're selling cheaper than the indigenous people, the people will benefit on the short term but will suffer job losses, inability to enter the market, wealth building on the long term, the economy as a whole will not benefit anything whatsoever both on the short and long term.

Why do you think that America doesn't allow other EVs companies to set up retail shops in America despite that they sell at a lower rate than Tesla and other auto mobile companies? Why is it that apple are having a monopoly on US markets despite the fact that Huawei, Xiaomi, oppo etc have comparable products and at a cheaper price than the iPhone? Why do you think EU have a market protection laws within the countries in EU?
https://www.nairaland.com/8748233/chinese-shops-how-ibadans-ijebus
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by TheAlchemist: 11:01am On Sep 15
Please how do i locate a chinese owned store at Alaba, i am in the process of setting up a business. I believe i can a achieve a 50% cost savings in set up cost and most importantly product warranty that i can take to the bank.
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by tollyboy5(m): 11:04am On Sep 15
IyfeNamikaze:
They are not producing yes, but your perspective is the wrong one here. When the locals are dominating the market, selling at a higher price and making more money, where does that wealth go? Does it not still circulate back into the economy thereby growing it? When you knock out that avenue of IGR the economy will be the one to suffer it. Tomorrow now you will be saying Lagos is topping in IGR and here you are encouraging moves that will dwindle that IGR due to sentiments, cutting your nose to spite your face.

The Chinese send their wealth back to their country, they don't spend it here which is why no serious country allows this sort of practice within their borders, not even the Chinese government would allow it without imposing heavy taxes on the foreign retailer
It’s the same thing. You’re not just thinking it straight.
Chinese sell a product for 100#. Nigeria marketers buy and sells for 250#.
The person that loses here is the customers.
We’re just collecting money from Mr A and giving it to Mr B in the same country.
Chinese will always get their 100# manufacturer price.
Now the Chinese came and start selling at 180# as a retailer. They live here with us and send 100# back to china.
The end users are happy, Chinese manufacturers are happy with positive feedback, and their sales rep enjoying 80# spends the money in our economy because they live with us like the Lebanese also.
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by FSBoperator: 11:06am On Sep 15
IyfeNamikaze:
if they're selling cheaper than the indigenous people, the people will benefit on the short term but will suffer job losses, inability to enter the market, wealth building on the long term, the economy as a whole will not benefit anything whatsoever both on the short and long term.

Why do you think that America doesn't allow other EVs companies to set up retail shops in America despite that they sell at a lower rate than Tesla and other auto mobile companies? Why is it that apple are having a monopoly on US markets despite the fact that Huawei, Xiaomi, oppo etc have comparable products and at a cheaper price than the iPhone? Why do you think EU have a market protection laws within the countries in EU?
The reason you dominate Lagos retail sector is because Alex Ekwenme as head of Shagari's economic team liberalised imports.

That led to local industries closing down and since you guys established links in foreign countries earlier, the retail sector that used to have Yorubas dominate trade evaporated.

Now you guys have been enjoying that monopoly on imported goods which is also a major drain on FX which your region contributes zilch to .

That monopoly led to you guys exploiting the populace.

Now that Chinese are selling far cheaper you are now telling us that we should protect your business that depends on same Chinese imports.

Your import based retailers have done far more damage to Nigeria's industrial base and economy as a whole and you are telling me to support you in kicking the Chinese out because theu are selling far cheaper than you.

We don hear you.
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by higgs: 11:06am On Sep 15
You are full of hatred.Igbos buy Dangote cement, Dangote is not Igbo.FirstBank,GTB etc are mostly owned by Yorubas yet millions of Igbos own accounts in those banks.ETC Get a life,find something useful to do with your life and purge your heart of the evil and hatred it is full of,it is unhealthy for you.
FSBoperator:
Ibos make it a point not to patronise non Ibo businesses.

Why should we all support your useless protest against the Chinese doing lawful business in Lagos ?
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by IyfeNamikaze(m): 11:07am On Sep 15
FSBoperator:
If you were producing these goods here under your brand name , we will support you and also offer protectionist policies to ensure you are still in business.

But you don't produce shishi .

And if you go back in history you will see that it was Alex Ekwenme as head of Shagari's economic team that liberalised imports that benefited his people at the detriment of local industries.

Now that we are import dependent because of Ekwenme's economic policies that targeted SW industrial base why should I pay more for same imported goods made in china when I can patronise a Chinese retailer selling far cheaper ?

Oga, go and secure land in your village so you can start farming.
Of course, the only thing that runs through your head is ethnic bigotry and tribal sentiments
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by FSBoperator: 11:07am On Sep 15
higgs:
You are full of hatred.Igbos buy Dangote cement, Dangote is not Igbo.FirstBank,GTB etc are mostly owned by Yorubas yet millions of Igbos own accounts in those banks.ETC Get a life,find something useful to do with your life and purge your heart of the evil and hatred it is full of,it is unhealthy for you.
You are asking us to chase Chinese so you can continue exploiting us in selling same made in China goods.

Abeg shift.

Go and secure land in your village to start farming now .

Don't say I didn't warn you .
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by FSBoperator: 11:08am On Sep 15
IyfeNamikaze:
Of course, the only thing that runs through your head is ethnic bigotry and tribal sentiments
See this one.

You are parroting xenophobic economy and protectionism as to why we should kick the Chinese out .

My friend I could care less if you see me as Hitler himself.
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by Frank2025: 11:12am On Sep 15
Mynd44:
And we insult the South Africans
It is more different than the South Africa at least those are black and people fighting against black, but is a Chinese leaving their first or second world country to a third world country to dominate does that make sense

I don't support what South Africans are doing but it will first to second world country coming to dominate or take over the businesses of a a common man in the third world country it doesn't make absolute sense, they should be restricted to factory creation only, and create more jobs for the common Nigerians
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by tollyboy5(m): 11:16am On Sep 15
Kalulu44:
I was responding to Madridguy who brought in Alaba market into it and even mention my brothers in Ghana.
So I'm not the one who deviated from the original argument.
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And to the original argument, you guys still haven't admitted the Chinese are wrong for bringing goods to the domain of their own distributors/wholesalers and sale to to retailers at company's price.
How are the distributors going to sell theirs? Same price as they bought from the company. Is that gain or loss
Alright Lagos state as a state don’t deprive businesses. The only businesses Nigerian government can defend and fight for against foreign investors are the manufacturing industry.
Anything importation is ruled out.
Know this and know peace.
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by Ambivert77: 11:17am On Sep 15
I thought you guys said that Lagos is no man's land and that you own Lagos...Una neva see anything...This is just the beginning....Y'all were bragging of owning and building Lagos, don't worry....We are bringing people with respect, decorum and decency to replace you lot. Wait,watch and see.
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by IyfeNamikaze(m): 11:18am On Sep 15
tollyboy5:
It’s the same thing. You’re not just thinking it straight.
Chinese sell a product for 100#. Nigeria marketers buy and sells for 250#.
The person that loses here is the customers.
We’re just collecting money from Mr A and giving it to Mr B in the same country.
Chinese will always get their 100# manufacturer price.
Now the Chinese came and start selling at 180# as a retailer. They live here with us and send 100# back to china.
The end users are happy, Chinese manufacturers are happy with positive feedback, and their sales rep enjoying 80# spends the money in our economy because they live with us like the Lebanese also.
Can you even listen to yourself?

If the Nigerian retailer sells at ₦250, he still spends that ₦250 within the Nigerian economy, the government extracts taxes based off the ₦250 which means that the economy is growing by 12.5. BUT if the Chinese sells it at ₦180 and sends the ₦100 back to china, not only have the economy lost that ₦100, it has also lost a sizable percentage of its IGR by -4.2 .

I can't believe what I'm reading on this site sha, it's like the government should make Economics compulsive for EVERY discipline in the university.
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by erniok(m): 11:19am On Sep 15
IyfeNamikaze:
Chinese textiles oversaturated the market, knocking out the local market.
The core reason is failed was high production cost as a result of power failures. The factories had to raise product costs to survive and that's where textile import/smuggling did them dirty.
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by PulaPower: 11:19am On Sep 15
Kalulu44:
Sometime make una dey reason things well before una post.
For example, you get factory wey dey produce bottle water. I dey come buy from you wholesale to go resale at retail price at my area or unit.
Then you the manufacturer come still carry the product come my domain come dey sell at your wholesale price to my retailers. How do you want me to feel?
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I stay in Igbesa Ogun state just close to the Chinese free trade zone that have over 200 Chinese companies producing different types of comodities, and hundreds of trucks and trailers go out from the zone everyday to go supply their various clients and customers which includes the trade Fair market dealers.
Isn't that ought to be enough for them Chinese, why bring the goods down yourself to this traders domain and start selling at wholesale price.
How do you want the other traders buying from your factory to make their money and come buy from you.
It’s called economics in business world..

People Dey sell cement beside dangote cement company

People Dey sell drinks beside drinks company

People Dey do pos near bank

But wait o, if the report be say Chinese are leaving Nigeria cuz business isn’t favoring, Wetin you go dey talk by now? 🤣

Maah still dey read comments dey go..
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by Sleekfingers: 11:20am On Sep 15
Benedict44:
The Chinese setting up warehouse in Nigeria should be condemned by everybody that understands economics.

Instead of them to set up factories to produce the goods here, they are setting up warehouse, which will invariably kill the local economy.

As a buyer, it looks good but if you look at it in the long term, it is very bad. It is not just about igbos. Every tribe has retailers that buys goods overseas and sell in Nigeria. What happens when those people can't compete?
What happens to your brother/sister working in those retail shops? It will affect everyone.

In fact, if you observe our economy, you will notice that since we tilted towards China and abandoned the USA, that is when things began to get worse because Chinese don't build factories unlike USA. They prefer to produce in China and sell in Nigeria.

USA companies will prefer to set up factories in Nigeria due to cheap labour but Chinese will prefer to manufacture in China and sell in Nigeria. We complain of unemployment but fail to understand these things.

Instead of warehouse, let them build factories here, produce it here and sell it cheaper. Everybody wins.
😏😏😏😏😏

How many USA companies dey Nigeria?
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by koning: 11:21am On Sep 15
Cyberterror:
They are strangers in Yoruba land protesting against other strangers doing their legitimate businesses in Yoruba land. Which kind of greed is this? embarassed
My response to this nonsense you wrote here was removed.
I will not repeat myself. Use your imagination to figure out what my response was.
IGBOS ARE NOT STRANGERS IN LAGOS OR NIGERIA.

And LAGOS IS NOT YORUBA LAND. Stop dreaming.
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by Sleekfingers: 11:24am On Sep 15
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Trade fair is not an Igbo market. Anybody can do their business there , as long as it is legal.


The Chinese are here to stay . As a matter of fact, Chinese should please continue to do the lord's work....
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by sagitariusbaby(m): 11:27am On Sep 15
Nigerians in SA are not the manufacturers of the products they sell or market there same can't be said about the Chinese. They cripple indigenous businesses wherever they are allowed to operate and compete with the locals. And you know what, the capital goes back to China while this of our citizens remains here.
Mynd44:
And we insult the South Africans
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by pocohantas(f): 11:28am On Sep 15
There are laws to protect local and smallscale businesses. I cannot remember what it is called, but it exists.
Since Temu and Shein started shipping to Nigeria, I haven't bought casual clothes from overpriced Lagos vendors. Same with kiddies clothes. I can only imagine what my former vendors are going through. So I understand their grievances.
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by PulaPower: 11:30am On Sep 15
ARISHEM:
You are been xenophobic. Lagos state and Yoruba people are not attributed to xenophobia that is why they are not complaining.
Foreigners have been dealing in Yorubaland since 12th century..

See, before I continue, first of all thank God if you be Yoruba.. ( Go explain more as per why later)

Foreigners have been becoming something in Yoruba land right from centuries..

Foreigners have been engaging in our political & kingship leadership from the centuries. For example, Obatala, as I heard but haven't confirmed, wasn't a Yoruba but a Nupe man... Imma still confirm and give update later.

So, from Yoruba culture, lifestyle and tradition, were people who have always been open to visitors. It has always been a land of growth & business..

So, you're completely right. I only added what I said cuz I wanna add more to your point..
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by higgs: 11:30am On Sep 15
I don't even live in Lagos and have no plans of living there.It is awful sharing the same country with hate filled people like you .
FSBoperator:
You are asking us to chase Chinese so you can continue exploiting us in selling same made in China goods.

Abeg shift.

Go and secure land in your village to start farming now .

Don't say I didn't warn you .
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by Shaketable: 11:31am On Sep 15
flokii:
If anyone should leave Lagos markets, it's those wicked traders inflating prices of goods, selling fake and adulterated products in Lagos.

I'm very disappointed with the LASG with how they allowed these non-indigenes flood Lagos market with bad products harming the health and economy of the State and Nigeria at large. That was same way they were running piracy syndicates all over Idumota back then, yet our people turned blind eye to the destruction they were causing to our movie industry.

Yorubas must wake up now and act.. when exactly will enough be enough?
And divide this country so Yorubas can be on their own, Y should d now president be out of their extraction? They are always saying people should leave Lagos for them forgetting that the so called Lagos was built from the common wealth of Nigeria
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by Christistruth03: 11:32am On Sep 15
wink
erniok:
why do you think the Nigerian textile business collapsed.
At least the Chinese are not dragging Lagos with us

It is the same people who mass imported Textiles into Nigeria until Nigeria's Textile companies collapsed that are protesting now because it doesn't favour them.
They should carry their protesting to Onitsha Market if they cannot rebuild those industries

Lagos and SW are ready to work productively with the Chinese to benefit everyone


Please kindly post the address and phone numbers of the Chinese shops so we can Make sure all our people patronise them.

Awolowo brought the Lebanese and we all prospered together
By God's Divine Mercy we will also prosper with the Chinese
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by Thiefobi1: 11:34am On Sep 15
The Chinese are highly welcome.

Most of the goods sold in their shops are of high quality


Better to patronize a China shop than those fake merchant.

If u can't compete with them close shop and go home.
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by Dbestcno33: 11:35am On Sep 15
The truth is that these Chinese people bring in cheaper inferior products and because Nigeria is a poor country who only goes for cheaper products and not durable products. A typical Chinese man will open a warehouse without papers or even joining any existing unions. It's bad and if the government doesn't start addressing these issues, I see it getting out of control. They can't go to countries like US or Europe and start dominating their economy. Government of such countries will support their citizens first before those Chinese
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by Sleekfingers: 11:36am On Sep 15
Spybradd:
You can't be the manufacturer and again go to another mans country and take advantage and be retailing in petty trades of same foods and items with local citizens of that country!

And it's horrible that you people are not seeing the protesters here as Nigerians but as "Igbo people!"

Everyone knows your standpoint,where you're coming from as regards the tribe and people protesting and I am saying it to you that you are a mod here and a big disappointment!
Seun this is very disappointing.

You can go ahead and ban me
The Chinese are here to stay .
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by PulaPower: 11:41am On Sep 15
Inosky:
You think Chinese business men/women love you more, until they destroy the Nigerian SMEs business and go back to their country while you and your people remain poor. Think why Europe is trying to regulate their cheap electric cars in European markets over their own. Every reasonable government will try to protect their own, and homegrown products. Just like Dangote said: it's only Africans that develop Africa. If a Nigerian make money he uses it to develop Nigeria, same can't be said of Chinese in Nigeria. There should be higher taxes for foreigners doing retail business in Nigeria, that's if Government not banning them completely, to protect Nigeria Small Scale Businesses. Think!
Your analysis is weak and shows your being biased. Prolly cuz you're from the east.

This is like growing SMEs more.

If, let say, 10m are into SMEs in Nigeria. And now, with the Chinese, the numbers increases to 30m SMEs, how's that destroying SMEs?
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by Kalulu44: 11:42am On Sep 15
PulaPower:
It’s called economics in business world..

People Dey sell cement beside dangote cement company

People Dey sell drinks beside drinks company

People Dey do pos near bank

But wait o, if the report be say Chinese are leaving Nigeria cuz business isn’t favoring, Wetin you go dey talk by now? 🤣

Maah still dey read comments dey go..
Just hear yourself talk, people selling cement close to Dangote cement company are selling in retails e.g one one or two two to ten or there about.
Dangote company can't sell one bag of cement for you or anybody when they know their distributors are beside them.
Which is what this Chinese companies wants to do.
Banks can't do withdrawal of 1k again which is what POS is now for. Coca cola company can't sell one bottle to you when they know their distributors are out there.
So what are you not saying
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by PulaPower: 11:43am On Sep 15
Kalulu44:
After reading majority comments, I just can't help but shake my head.
This tribalism thing has really eating deep into our fabrics especially from Igbo and Yorubas.
Anything that will bring one tribe down is giving joy to the other tribe vice versa.
Honestly as an Igbo man born and brought up in the West. I hardly put mouth into this two tribes matters.
Cus I have good and jolly good friends from both sides of the divides.
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Now to this Chinese issue, one tribe is happy that the Chinese wants to deprive the other tribe from making money and feel the Chinese are right with what they're doing. But I disagree.
I live in Igbesa Ogun state close to the Chinese free trade zone that has over 200 companies inside the zone producing different types of products you can think of that human beings uses.
Everyday, we watch over 100 trucks and trailers carrying goods to go supply customers outside the state which includes this trade Fair traders.
The Chinese are supplying this traders at wholesale prices, and this traders will still pay transportation to bring the goods to them.
With this, they have certain amount they'll sell the goods to retailers.
Then you as the Chinese companies supplying this traders now decided to bring the goods yourself to their domain and sell at your company's price against the traders retail price.
How does this make sense?
Pls guys let's leave tribal sentiment at times and think about most of the things properly, thanks.
Haven’t completed reading ya yet. But:

How’s the Chinese going to deprive you people out to business?
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by chidi2003(m): 11:43am On Sep 15
Cyberterror:
They are strangers in Yoruba land protesting against other strangers doing their legitimate businesses in Yoruba land. Which kind of greed is this? embarassed
Where's the protest? Anybody protesting such rubbish should be arrested - let's stop supporting useless actions in Nigeria; businesses are all about competitions .
Re: Traders In Lagos Stage Protest Against Chinese Shops At Trade Fair And ASPANDA by PulaPower: 11:46am On Sep 15
tollyboy5:
Government will not ban them from selling their original products because some few greedy business men want to sell fake products to us at exorbitant prices.
The government will listen to well meaning Nigerians not greedy marketers and their unions.
Government keh?

Nah dia trade fare market chairman go settle ham self. And if them no listen, they’ll bring in the Iyaloja..
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