₦airaland Forum

izzou:
Where are even all the jobs for the university graduates that we are churning out every year?

Are these students also aware that NELFUND isn't free? Are they aware that they must pay that debt?

I also don't have issues with any increment as long as it matches with value, and we all know it doesn't.

The government should leave University wahala and start paying more attention to technical education. There's a large hole to fill in that area. To find good hands in technical areas now na by connection.

To me, the government at Federal and state levels just want the easy way out by jacking up schools while promising they would raise the standard of learning/education in government owned varsities. They just want to keep spending money on other irrelevant stuff that neither build human capital nor bring development society while government officials & politicians don't have their funding cut.

Lagos state government that has tax collection running on Steroids will tell you it cannot afford to make LASU, LASPOTECH and Adeniran Ogunsanya College of Education affordable for the public.....but when u look at government officials, lawmakers and political appointees feeding fat on tax payers' money u just know these people don see mugu's to whine well well.

If you tour business districts like V.I, Marina and co while observing the thousands of companies domiciled in these areas and you start imagining the kind of Corporate Income Tax, Land use charge and other form of taxes the government gets from these businesses. Then you go to Markets like Computer Village, Trade Fair, Alaba,etc and also think about the kind of income the state government generates from businesses domiciled within these areas ....etc you will have a faint idea of the kind of money the government makes.

Never mind the state government has refused to domestic FOI bill and will not respond to you if you make a formal or informal request as a citizen/taxpayer to know exactly what the state makes. But the government will tell you they cannot make any of the public institutions accessible without increasing fees.

Nigerian politicians are the luckiest in the world for the kind of citizen wey dem dey lead sha.

iamoyindamola:
Until they use reform kpai us by force
Talking of electricity, have been seeing the companies handling electricity in different states telling people to come for nerc refund.
I went to ikeja electricity website yesterday and after keying my meter no these came out, I should be afraid because nothing is free in this country.
I know someone who's still paying covid 19 money

My Landlord sent me Tokens that was sent to him by IKEDC on Sunday for my flat and pumping machine's Prepaid meter (He registered both meters with his phone number).

I loaded the tokens and got 9.2 unit as refund for my flat's meter while the pumping machine paid meter got 43 units as refund. So, I can say the refund is real.

What I can't say is if they will later find ways to remove it from us later sha, but I want to think that shouldn't happene since it is the regulator that forced them to do the refund.

iamoyindamola:
What kind of reforms are you talking about here, can you explain few in details

paying full price for tertiary education

BlueRayDick:
To me, the government at Federal and state levels just want the easy way out by jacking up schools while promising they would raise the standard of learning/education in government owned varsities. They just want to keep spending money on other irrelevant stuff that neither build human capital nor bring development society while government officials & politicians don't have their funding cut.

Lagos state government that has tax collection running on Steroids will tell you it cannot afford to make LASU, LASPOTECH and Adeniran Ogunsanya College of Education affordable for the public.....but when u look at government officials, lawmakers and political appointees feeding fat on tax payers' money u just know these people don see mugu's to whine well well.

If you tour business districts like V.I, Marina and co while observing the thousands of companies domiciled in these areas and you start imagining the kind of Corporate Income Tax, Land use charge and other form of taxes the government gets from these businesses. Then you go to Markets like Computer Village, Trade Fair, Alaba,etc and also think about the kind of income the state government generates from businesses domiciled within these areas ....etc you will have a faint idea of the kind of money the government makes.

Never mind the state government has refused to domestic FOI bill and will not respond to you if you make a formal or informal request as a citizen/taxpayer to know exactly what the state makes. But the government will tell you they cannot make any of the public institutions accessible without increasing fees.

Nigerian politicians are the luckiest in the world for the kind of citizen wey dem dey lead sha.

Nigeria has a way of messing one's thought process, that you may not to decipher what's right from wrong.

I watched a video of Ortom saying he took Benue state government to court because they seized 23 cars that belonged to him.

The Interviewer asked him how he got 23 cars. He said it's a tradition that a governor leaving would take all the vehicles assigned to him.

If you gather 1 million indigenes of Benue and explain this story to them, they won't be vexed to do anything. That's how Nigeria has deformed our thought process

BlueRayDick:
My Landlord sent me Tokens that was sent to him by IKEDC on Sunday for my flat and pumping machine's Prepaid meter (He registered both meters with his phone number).

I loaded the tokens and got 9.2 unit as refund for my flat's meter while the pumping machine paid meter got 43 units as refund. So, I can say the refund is real.

What I can't say is if they will later find ways to remove it from us later sha, but I want to think that shouldn't happene since it is the regulator that forced them to do the refund.

That is fair then
I am waiting for my own sms too

GloriousGbola:
paying full price for tertiary education

To what benefits?

iamoyindamola:
To what benefits?

this is how it can be

we can continue giving people cheap education where they spend 8 years in university for a 4 year course and come out at a disadvantage compared to people in private universities , or we can start paying full price

when you say a person enjoyed free education - what did he enjoy exactly?

even free secondary school, what was actually enjoyed? i started wearing glasses in js1 because my free school did not have light and i was reading with lantern.

what exactly is the free education we are celebrating here? getting thrown into a course with no value, sadistic unaccountable lecturers with 1970s materials?

Person dy ask of school that pay #450k? For real? Bro you still dy dis country so? You don't need to go south or west , just go up north and I will show you as many as possible.... On your way, please branch in kogi state, that's a good place to start with.

GloriousGbola:
this is how it can be

we can continue giving people cheap education where they spend 8 years in university for a 4 year course and come out at a disadvantage compared to people in private universities , or we can start paying full price

when you say a person enjoyed free education - what did he enjoy exactly?

even free secondary school, what was actually enjoyed? i started wearing glasses in js1 because my free school did not have light and i was reading with lantern.

what exactly is the free education we are celebrating here? getting thrown into a course with no value, sadistic unaccountable lecturers with 1970s materials?

After the 4 years of quality education, where is the job?

reccy:
Person dy ask of school that pay #450k? For real? Bro you still dy dis country so? You don't need to go south or west , just go up north and I will show you as many as possible.... On your way, please branch in kogi state, that's a good place to start with.

You they mind am

izzou:
Nigeria has a way of messing one's thought process, that you may not to decipher what's right from wrong.

I watched a video of Ortom saying he took Benue state government to court because they seized 23 cars that belonged to him.

The Interviewer asked him how he got 23 cars. He said it's a tradition that a governor leaving would take all the vehicles assigned to him.

If you gather 1 million indigenes of Benue and explain this story to them, they won't be vexed to do anything. That's how Nigeria has deformed our thought process

The bold is just my concern, it seem we've lost the ability to be enraged by the things that should make one seriously vexed bas a citizen. Na yeye things we come dey vex on top.

Amigoos1:
It doesn't really matter In this case. You want the best learning and education for your wards that why you send them to private secondary school like majority does. If you can comfortably pay big bucks for secondary school, then complaining about similar fees at university feels hypocritical to me irrespective of it being public.

Nigerians just like osho free things from government. Tuition still remains free in all federal university.

BlueRayDick:
The bold is just my concern, it seem we've lost the ability to be enraged by the things that should make one seriously vexed bas a citizen. Na yeye things we come dey vex on top.

I have no issues if APC paid agents or political hopefuls defend it. My concern is how an average or poor man can't think.

Let me give you another instance

Margaret Obi, a private citizen, who's husband has no keys to the public vault is dragged for holding a bag worth hundreds of millions.

Meanwhile, Tinubu has spent 37 billion naira on foreign trips since 2023. The highest ever done since 1914

He has also spent 260plus days on vacation since 2023.

That's how Nigeria has messed up the brains of its people. Wetin dey abnormal don dey normal

iamoyindamola

Have you watched Silo?

I just finished it, and S4 don dey hungry me

izzou:
iamoyindamola

Have you watched Silo?

I just finished it, and S4 don dey hungry me

Have not started s3 but the reviews are very good

izzou:
I have no issues if APC paid agents or political hopefuls defend it. My concern is how an average or poor man can't think.

Let me give you another instance

Margaret Obi, a private citizen, who's husband has no keys to the public vault is dragged for holding a bag worth hundreds of millions.

Meanwhile, Tinubu has spent 37 billion naira on foreign trips since 2023. The highest ever done since 1914

He has also spent 260plus days on vacation since 2023.

That's how Nigeria has messed up the brains of its people. Wetin dey abnormal don dey normal

Na people wey u expect to be vexed go dey make excuse for them sef. They might tell you that there's no law against the president going for vacation abroad.

Anytime I see people making such head-scratching discussion to denfend the indefensible, I go just shake my head.

The protest by traders against the Chinese would always be funny to me.

izzou:
The protest by traders against the Chinese would always be funny to me.

What is it about?

, x

BlueRayDick:
What is it about?

Globalisation

For years hustlers masquerading as businessmen became millionaires and billionaires from selling cheap Chinese goods at 400% plus mark up

Now the Chinese have wised up and are in Nigeria cutting out the middleman

BlueRayDick:
What is it about?

Chinese don flood Nigerian market and are now retailing sef.

Importer & Exporter don dey cry.

What is even funnier is that leaving the market changes nothing. The Chinese can still establish it anywhere and make their sales

iamoyindamola:
Reform party
Since lasu increase their tuition fees that school just went down.

You mean am?

izzou:
Chinese don flood Nigerian market and are now retailing sef.

Importer & Exporter don dey cry.

What is even funnier is that leaving the market changes nothing. The Chinese can still establish it anywhere and make their sales

And with the Chinese you have more confidence you are actually buying the original or the at least the first grade knock off.

Not the grade 4 knock off at price of original

izzou:
Chinese don flood Nigerian market and are now retailing sef.

Importer & Exporter don dey cry.

What is even funnier is that leaving the market changes nothing. The Chinese can still establish it anywhere and make their sales

GloriousGbola:
, x

Globalisation

For years hustlers masquerading as businessmen became millionaires and billionaires from selling cheap Chinese goods at 400% plus mark up

Now the Chinese have wised up and are in Nigeria cutting out the middleman

Oh, I see...... So the super-wholesalers have become retailers and retailers now want them out before the suffocate them?

The thing is not peculiar to trade fair now, sometime ago I saw posts on social media promoting a particular mega chinese warehouse on the island. Funny thing is the Chinese are even paying Nigerian influencers to direct retailers to their stores.

But come to think of it, other countries dey make laws to protect local businesses ......but the truth is such countries also protect consumers from exploitation and the greed of retailers for abnormal profit.

GloriousGbola:
And with the Chinese you have more confidence you are actually buying the original or the at least the first grade knock off.

Not the grade 4 knock off at price of original

I bought one Iphone cord from one Chinese store called MINISO at Ikeja City Mall earlier this year. I've used the cord for almost 9 months and no sign of it going bad or failed performance.

If na the ones I dey buy from from those guys selling in local stores or even Computer village sef (no matter how expensive it is), the thing go don cast since.

GloriousGbola:
And with the Chinese you have more confidence you are actually buying the original or the at least the first grade knock off.

Not the grade 4 knock off at price of original

I don't know why they didn't see this coming

They had decades to structure themselves as indispensable, but "Buying and Selling" is the only vision they had.

BlueRayDick:
Oh, I see...... So the super-wholesalers have become retailers and retailers now want them out before the suffocate them?

The thing is not peculiar to trade fair now, sometime ago I saw posts on social media promoting a particular mega chinese warehouse on the island. Funny thing is the Chinese are even paying Nigerian influencers to direct retailers to their stores.

But come to think of it, other countries dey make laws to protect local businesses ......but the truth is such countries also protect consumers from exploitation and the greed of retailers for abnormal profit.

When Nigerians were setting ring light in China to show how cheap things were in the name of "Business", I knew we were inviting price crashers.

Most of all these items are things that can be produced here. Why can't these guys pool resources together to do it here?

We import cotton buds, threads and very funny stuff. After spending 20 years making billions,why not produce here so you can change the game however you want?

Those protests mean nothing. People will go and find those Chinese wherever they are

Spy360:
So that I don't have to chase after bread thrown at me like am a dog.

This is what your country has turned into and you're asking me not to swear for you for supporting this?

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That power of prayer and curses would have been deployed to better your own life so you can live above average but no you cant help yourself

Tinubu will win and you will continue to cry

Melvyn11:
The OP is actually right. What exactly is his point? He never complained about paying Nigerian school fees, so this really isn’t the burn he thinks it is.

I am struggling to see the point

BlueRayDick:
Which Yeye reforms?

What has changed in Nigerian Universities since we all graduated that warrants the nonsense astronomical increment in fees ? Students even learn more using open source materials from the internet and Ai......Apart from research which Universities still have going for them, a youth can learn about almost everything on the open internet.

It just feels like people who benefited from public universities when they were affordable just don't want it accessible to the generation coming behind.

If a government cannot guarantee affordable education while politicians and government officials waste/embezzle billions of naira annually, such government has failed!

Cost of living has changed. When I was in University the minimum wage was 5k

Its like asking that my dads generation bought a car for N10k why cant i use the same amount to buy a car

We went to school 1yr school 1yr ASUU strike

https://x.com/peterobi/status/2099803376959549620?s=46&t=Bhm3054lg-vBawtylba29Q

This man sha, a whole APC can’t find any dirt on him….e no dey fear put everything on the line

GloriousGbola:
the federal government sent my father and multiple others to uk universities in the 70s on post graduate scholarships

maybe you should ask why the government cannot afford to do that anymore

dont worry, if obi enters we will get free tertiary education and fully funded uk scholarships

just saying

Also needs to be said that the number of students in all Nigerian universities in the 70s that you mentioned might not be more than 5000.

Now some faculties in a single University might be over 5000 student

How much the FG was spending for free education in 1973 wont even fund a University today and we have like almost 100 Universities

iamoyindamola:
What kind of reforms are you talking about here, can you explain few in details

Reform that matches current economic realities. Not that we will be talking about the days when 17k Naira can buy a brand new car or when our parents graduated and got a govt job waiting for them with official cars