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Hey guys,

I have a friend Isa. Me and him converted to Christianity at very young ages after fleeing the North. I was more moderate but Isa became more DEVOUT. He takes every Christian teaching to heart now he doesn't want to get married.

He doesn't want to get married and have a family - his reasons are fear based and caused by Christianity. Basically Christianity has instilled fear in him.

His Reasons

1. Say he has a family of 4. According to the bible, two might go to heaven while the remaining two might go to hell. So why then should he have kids if the end is no certain?

“I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.” — Luke 17:34

A man is in hell and his siblings might go to heaven as shown below:

“I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.” — Luke 16:28

What then is the point of raising a family?


“For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.” — Matthew 10:35

What kind of God or Messiah is this? Does He actually want us to have a family?

Romans 9:11
"for they not yet having been born nor having done anything good or evil, so that the purpose of God according to election might stand—As it is written: Jacob I have loved Esau I have hated "- even before the brothers were born!!

We see the same with Cain and Abel.

Matthew 24 is full of threats.

What kind of evil terrorist is this Hebrew God? A perverse God that speaks from both sides of his mouth.

Do you see the negative effects of Christianity? How the bible effectively says having kids isn't worth it.


"Matthew 6:19–21 (KJV):

“Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thiefs do not break in but lay up treasures in heaven"

This made my friend wonder if life is actually worth living! And if it's actually a good thing to make money which is required for marriage.


So what He is thinking of doing now is to believe in Jesus but ignore Jesus threats. But is that even possible?

He should go back to believing in Mohammed and prepare to receive 72 virgins if he dies a violent death in the name of islam

HeatSeeker:
He should go back to believing in Mohammed and prepare to receive 72 virgins if he dies a violent death in the name of islam

Answer the questions asked. Is that all you have to say?

Christianity never intended people to have families as the bible clearly shows.

Misconception of the Bible. His understanding of the Bible is read and pass. Tell Isah to pray for God guidance whenever he is reading the Bible. Let his understanding of the Bible capture his heart in his mind and he will see the TRUTH which we anchor into in the Bible.

BigBashiru:
Answer the questions asked. Is that all you have to say?

Christianity never intended people to have families as the bible clearly shows.

Stop being a misguided Mujahedeen! Such silly tactics have become stale. Who do you think will waste time explaining truth to the unwise?! Go back to islam and prepare for your 72 virgins!

HeatSeeker:
Stop being a misguided Mujahedeen! Such silly tactics have become stale. Who do you think will waste time explaining truth to the unwise?! Go back to islam and prepare for your 72 virgins!

If you have no answers then keep quiet sir.

ObiaboAdoka:
Misconception of the Bible. His understanding of the Bible is read and pass. Tell Isah to pray for God guidance whenever he is reading the Bible. Let his understanding of the Bible capture his heart in his mind and he will see the TRUTH which we anchor into in the Bible.

I admit misconception of the bible fine. But why does he need to pray when you van just answer the question. So you dont know the answer and just pray is your only escape? How convenient.

To anyone else reading the OP is a genuine ask for answers. Because this aspect of the religion ain't making sense.

BigBashiru:
I admit misconception of the bible fine. But why does he need to pray when you van just answer the question. So you dont know the answer and just pray is your only escape? How convenient.

To anyone else reading the OP is a genuine ask for answers. Because this aspect of the religion ain't making sense.

Prayer is the key.

ObiaboAdoka:
Prayer is the key.

Pls dont give christianity a bad name. just say you dont know the answer - simple.

BigBashiru:
If you have no answers then keep quiet sir.

Mujahedeen! Be guided

HeatSeeker:
Mujahedeen! Be guided

Anti Christ is this the love Christ told you to hv for your neighbor and is this how you intend to convert Muslims?

BigBashiru:
Anti Christ is this the love Christ told you to hv for your neighbor and is this how you intend to convert Muslims?

Don't tell me that you are too cowardly to go get your 72 virgins?! Common man grow some balls and do the needful. Hiding behind a keyboard and an anonymous profile on Nairaland is only cowardice.

Fake story from a Muslim who is desperate to discredit Christianity and and promote Islam

You guys jumped from frying pan to fire. All religions are scam without exception. And I'll add that your friend needs psychiatric help.

If you have 50 children and they accept Jesus and they follow the straight path and avoid the broad way. All the 50 of them will make heaven.

professore:
If you have 50 children and they accept Jesus and they follow the straight path and avoid the broad way. All the 50 of them will make heaven.

But according to the bible the 50 will not go to heaven. Pls see the Jacob and Esau stories quoted in the original text.

BigBashiru:
But according to the bible the 50 will not go to heaven. Pls see the Jacob and Esau stories quoted in the original text.

After this I will not reply you again.

If you come to Jesus, he will not reject you no matter how bad your sins are (check Isaiah 1:18)

So if you have 50 children and all your 50 children embrace Jesus and do according to the Bible, all 50 will be welcome into God's kingdom.

In fact, there is joy in heaven over 1 sinner who repented over 99 righteous persons who need no repentance (Luke 15:7). This means every soul counts.


Train up your child in the way they should go so that when they are old they will not depart from it (Proverbs 22:6)


BUT, the question is, do the parents even know God to train the child in the way of God?

If the parents know God and train the children in the way of God, the children will still choose the master they want to serve, God or Satan.

Deuteronomy 30 (read from vs 15) it says I set before you life and good, death and evil, if you choose God and keep his commandments you will live and multiply. But if you turn your heart away from God and serve other gods, you shall surely perish.

So do you know God yourself? Will you teach your 50 children about God? Will they choose God or turn their hearts away from him? THAT WILL DETERMINE IF FOUR WILL STAND TOGETHER AND TWO WILL BE RAPTURED. In essence, the number of those who serve God are the numbers God will also save.