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| Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by TonyeBarcanista(op): 9:23pm On Sep 24 |
Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council There is a mentality among African leaders that we must change. The mentality of perpetual victimhood. That the West owes us something. That the world must give us a seat because we shouted injustice.
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| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by LordIsaac(m): 9:30pm On Sep 24 |
G5 countries' leaders (besides China) would go there and be heaping praises on themselves while our jobless rulers go there to clap. I really wonder what any African leader is going there to do. |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by TonyeBarcanista(op): 9:41pm On Sep 24 |
Funny enough, African leaders go with the largest delegation. LordIsaac: |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by londonerr: 9:55pm On Sep 24 |
Who asked you.... What do you know about the political dynamics at global level? Who's bankrolling you? |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by ibibiofirstlady(f): 10:01pm On Sep 24 |
londonerr:I have been a follower of the OP even before I joined the forum. If you cannot critique his position or you lack understanding of the subject matter, it is more beneficial for you to stay mute instead of trolling. The OP clearly do not engage in trolling that some of you do. |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by ibibiofirstlady(f): 10:03pm On Sep 24 |
TonyeBarcanista:This is an eye-opener. All my years, I have wondered why Africa is treated as second class. Is it possible to pursue development of Africa while simultaneously demanding for fairness at the world stage? |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by londonerr: 10:09pm On Sep 24 |
ibibiofirstlady:Me troll tonye? He should keep quiet with his OND analysis or go back to school. |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by Kukutente23: 10:14pm On Sep 24 |
If not for madness, you're asking for two veto seats when North America that your citizens are running to have only one seat. Asia that's building most of your infrastructure and goods have only one seat. African leaders are becoming more useless by the day. That's how a xenophobic country will be shouting free Palestine Another forced contraption will insist that Palestine needs to be recognised as a state Africa needs to wake up. The world is fast leaving us behind. They are fast seeing us as a continent and people to be tolerated rather than respected Kudos to the Op. Hope your party will not end up as another APC |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by ibibiofirstlady(f): 10:19pm On Sep 24 |
londonerr:k |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by TonyeBarcanista(op): 10:28pm On Sep 24 |
Unfortunately. We can't. Africa cannot negotiate without leverage. We must first build leverage before making demands. That way, no one can ignore us. At present, Africa will only attract sympathy and pity. And the man who is pitied gets the shorter end of the stick, if the stick even reaches him. ibibiofirstlady:As for that gentleman above, kindly allow him express himself. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, unfortunately he chose to be uncivil in expressing his. But he still has right to his opinion irrespective. |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by TonyeBarcanista(op): 10:35pm On Sep 24 |
I felt irritated and ashamed watching and listening to him making demands like anyone owe Africa a seat. Kukutente23:Absolutely Not! We will never replicate what the establishment is doing or recycle them. We intend to keep our focus on what we want to achieve for Nigeria beyond acquisition of power. |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by FSBoperator: 10:45pm On Sep 24 |
The UN is dead already. The war in Iran, Ukraine and the belligerent Israel still permitted to attend despite carrying on it's genocide on Palestinians both in Gaza and the West Bank as well as its invasion and occupation of southern Lebanon is proof that the UN is a dead carcass . |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by TonyeBarcanista(op): 11:01pm On Sep 24 |
Maybe, we should accept one reality. The UN was never meant to prevent war by force or act as a global police. It was created to provide a platform for dialogue so nations can find reasons to avoid war. President Roosevelt and Churchill literal idea is to create a club where the strongest guys (US, UK, USSR, France, and China) are permanent members with veto. That way they will never leave the table, because they own the table. You get? FSBoperator: |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by FSBoperator: 11:03pm On Sep 24 |
TonyeBarcanista:The UN was created solely to give Israel legitimacy. It's a rogue entity far worse than the League of Nations . |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by TonyeBarcanista(op): 11:07pm On Sep 24 |
FSBoperator:Well, UN cannot be created solely to give legitimacy to Israel that did not exist when UN was created. Was UN used later to give Israel legitimacy? Yes, through Resolution 181 in 1947. But that is not why it was created. The League of Nations failed because it had no power. The UN was created to correct that by giving the winners of WWII veto power so they stay at the table and don't start WWIII. |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by FSBoperator: 11:12pm On Sep 24 |
TonyeBarcanista:That's why the UN was created first and it was same UN that ignored all the genocide and terrorism carried out by Jews on the Palestinian population and still went on to recognize Israel and then admit Israel into the UN |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by TonyeBarcanista(op): 11:16pm On Sep 24 |
FSBoperator:My brother, UN is a platform of power, not fairness. It has not been perfect or fair on Palestine. It has failed many times, not just Palestine, but Rwanda in 1994, Srebrenica in 1995, and Congo today. That's exactly my point about UN. UN does not act based on fairness. It acts based on power and interests of the P5. When the P5 agree, UN acts. When they disagree, UN watches. In 1947, the P5 agreed to partition Palestine, so UN recognized Israel in 1948. In 1994, the P5 did not agree on Rwanda, so UN watched 800,000 people die. This is the reality |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by FSBoperator: 12:14am On Sep 25 |
TonyeBarcanista:China and Russia have been ok . It's the US, UK and France that are the major problem. |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by TonyeBarcanista(op): 12:23am On Sep 25 |
FSBoperator:China and Russia have been ok? Can you tell that to Ukraine where Russia is in its 3rd year of war there? What about to Taiwan? China says it will take it by force if necessary. And Tibet? China has occupied it since 1950. Georgia (2008)? t Crimea (2014)? What about Hong Kong (2019)? My brother, no P5 is "ok." That is my point. US, UK, France, Russia, China, all 5 use UN veto to protect their own interest, not to protect fairness. US vetoes for Israel. Russia vetoes for Syria and Ukraine. China vetoes for Taiwan and Tibet. UK and France veto to keep their influence in Africa. All of them respect only power. |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by FSBoperator: 12:49am On Sep 25 |
TonyeBarcanista:Obviously you have no clue on the origins of this war in Ukraine and I am not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you. |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by helinues: 2:18am On Sep 25 |
The honest truth is, Africa lose more in joining reasonable of the unions and groups. They are not even part of the decision makers |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by Kukutente23: 3:48am On Sep 25 |
FSBoperator:But when Iran was allowed to attend despite insisting that Israel has no right to exist and being responsible for the murder of people in Argentina, Iraq and Lebanon, UN was not dead abi? Una never begin cry |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by Kukutente23: 3:50am On Sep 25 |
FSBoperator:Islamists and their anti-West hypocrisy Check well now he's typing from a Western nation |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by FSBoperator: 7:54am On Sep 25 |
Kukutente23:So any one who is anti imperialist is an Islamist? The US you worship today was formed on the backs of the most brutal enslavement of Africans; genocide of the indigenous people and there was an active and fiercely upheld racial apartheid system up till the 60s. I am even surprised that you now praise Britain. |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by illicit(m): 7:55am On Sep 25 |
Very apt I remember the way African leaders were packed in a bus like sardine during the burial of the late Duke of Edinburgh Smh |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by duro4chang(m): 7:56am On Sep 25 |
londonerr:What wrong has he done? You can make your comment without attacking anyone |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by Gotocourt: 7:57am On Sep 25 |
Fix which Africa , polithiefcians will loot resources, borrow foreign and local loans and loot dry . |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by SonOfWords(m): 7:58am On Sep 25 |
Lol. Africa is not developed enough to merit a seat at the council but it is developed enough to be squeezed of resources year in and out, to the point that europe as we know it today, is almost becoming entirely dependent on the continent for energy imports? Now that you're done washing Atiku's behind with your tongue, you're using every available nairaland medium to sell your useless political platform in the name of citizens development abi😊? Tonye, we go meet for twitter. |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by DeltaBachelor(m): 8:03am On Sep 25 |
Yes o. I concur…..Let’s fix Africa first just like Donald Trump wants America to be GREAT again ! Sometimes you just have to be selfish to go far in life ! |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by Reference(m): 8:05am On Sep 25 |
Just reading the first line. Totally agree. Personal development is the key to true independence and respect. Power has always and will always be the ticket to a seat at the table. |
| Re: Let's Fix Africa First: My Position On Africa And The UN Security Council by anonimi: 8:08am On Sep 25*. Modified: 1:59am On Sep 28 |
TonyeBarcanista:Well said. Who listens to an extreme poverty, jobless person, whose children are stark illiterates in extended family or clan meetings? Instead of blaming others for our enduring underdevelopment, we need to get our act together and work out our collective prosperity and wellbeing to employ well paid government workers to make basic services and utilities available for everyone, Basic services and utilities like water supply, sanitation, free education for all children and free basic healthcare for all residents. TheBedWench:@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ anonimi:
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