₦airaland Forum

Theflint1:
The business of GRV is governance, and the official language of the country is English.

Maybe we'd start arguing that a president should be able to speak all the languages in the country before he can contest.

There's no quality of governance that Nigerians want to give in any part of the country that Chinese administrators speaking only Mandarin won't do better in.

At the end of the day, we know that all of these shenanigans is simply low-level bigotry, and not about the quality of administration or intention of the candidate.

Jimi "Chukwu" Agbaje was a thing.

What has GRV shown in his entire career or life that points that he is competent in governance than the other contestants?

Communication is part of governance. And ability to communicate with your constituents is key

Nigeria does not have a dominant language, a president can speak anyone of the languages in addition to the official language and be good

GRV does not speak the dominant language of the people who seeks to govern, maybe he can go to where he can speak to them and govern them

Going by your theory then let's import Chinese men to start governing our states starting with yours
Theflint1 supprting Mao Chang Li for Edo governor then we will support your theory

Like I said na for another man state we dey propose these wild ideas

TemporaryHansel:
When did Lagos state population get to 30m?

Na every year APC dey 10m to the population just to justify how the APC controlled government has not been able to fix a whole lot of issues in the state

My main question is why are the supporters of Peter Obi mostly not backing Doherty who's a fellow party man instead gravitating to GRV in ADC the party of their main opposition for Presidency?

raumdeuter:
Or he should contest in the location where he can connect with the people.

Remove their names paste the profile of all 3 candidates and no will put GRV top choice

How does it make sense that in a state you are trying to become governor you cannot communicate in the local language

TemporaryHansel:
When did Lagos state population get to 30m?

The 20m figure has been running for like over 10yrs, will it be strange that the population has gained about 5 to 10m in the last decade

chrisooblog:
My main question is why are the supporters of Peter Obi mostly not backing Doherty who's a fellow party man instead gravitating to GRV in ADC the party of their main opposition for Presidency?

Cos we all know what we are doing. It was never about competence


And if they say is about competence if you put their achievements side by side, GRV wont make it beyond intern level or PA to Doherty

This is the sad reality of Nigerian healthcare system . This grieving mother just confirmed my personal experience at LASUTH about how they would give your patient drip in the car simply because there’s no bed

“I went to LASUTH, and they said there were no beds. I went inside and saw that there were not even up to 50 beds. I asked if I could bring a bed from home, but they said that wasn’t the kind of bed they needed. They gave him a drip in the car and told us to go look for another… pic.twitter.com/Nbra9pwLGC

— SEUN Durojaiye 🇳🇬 (@DurojaiyeSegun) October 3, 2026

/video/1?s=46

BlueRayDick:
Na every year APC dey 10m to the population just to justify how the APC controlled government has not been able to fix a whole lot of issues in the state

Next year we go hear 40M, same people that you'd see them arguning that Nigeria's population is 100M.

Theflint1:
Next year we go hear 40M, same people that you'd see them arguning that Nigeria's population is 100M.

Many states in Nigeria are losing population to Lagos cos of economy and insecurity

Thats a fact

Almost half of every graduation class finds their way to Lagos

BlueRayDick:
This is the sad reality of Nigerian healthcare system . This grieving mother just confirmed my personal experience at LASUTH about how they would give your patient drip in the car simply because there’s no bed

https://x.cotatus/2106257056101523663/video/1?s=46

Why dont giant religious organizations in Nigeria invest in building big world class hospitals?

raumdeuter:
Anyone with a PhD has a high level of intelligence even if its in cooking

Professor Jason Arday (RIP) just entered the chat

raumdeuter:
Why dont giant religious organizations in Nigeria invest in building big world class hospitals?

Well, some religious organizations with universities that have medical schools have decent teaching hospitals but they are not cheap .

Then there are private hospitals too with world class facilities too and they are equally not cheap .

The problem is if you have a serious medical emergency , before they take you to some of those facilities (even if you have the funds ) , you may not make the trip due to the distance .

raumdeuter:
What has GRV shown in his entire career or life that points that he is competent in governance than the other contestants?

Communication is part of governance. And ability to communicate with your constituents is key

Nigeria does not have a dominant language, a president can speak anyone of the languages in addition to the official language and be good

GRV does not speak the dominant language of the people who seeks to govern, maybe he can go to where he can speak to them and govern them

Going by your theory then let's import Chinese men to start governing our states starting with yours
Theflint1 supprting Mao Chang Li for Edo governor then we will support your theory

Like I said na for another man state we dey propose these wild ideas

Schools run in English, government documents are released in English, manifestos in English, streets named in English, maps run in English, yet the dominant language of Lagos is not English...Lagos and all other states of the country are run in English.

Is Mao Chang Li a citizen of Nigeria?

There's no administration that the average Nigerian politician will deliver that the average Chinese won't best them in even without speaking a lick of English, not to mention any of the local languages.

raumdeuter:
Many states in Nigeria are losing population to Lagos cos of economy and insecurity

Thats a fact

Almost half of every graduation class finds their way to Lagos

None of these things you say are facts.

Lagos' population according to NBS was estimated at 12.5M in the year 2016.

Ibime:
Professor Jason Arday (RIP) just entered the chat

Also izzou has a PhD in bedmatics

Does this count?

Theflint1:
Schools run in English, government documents are released in English, manifestos in English, streets named in English, maps run in English, yet the dominant language of Lagos is not English...Lagos and all other states of the country are run in English.

Is Mao Chang Li a citizen of Nigeria?

There's no administration that the average Nigerian politician will deliver that the average Chinese won't best them in even without speaking a lick of English, not to mention any of the local languages.

Are schools in Edo govt, documents streets written in Bini language?

Knowing all these theory yet your party LP candidate in your state gubernatorial election waxed a full album in his native language clad in his native attire


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5f40EPtk3s?is=d-syGXu6iGs1N2OJ

You can invite GRV to Edo to come contest

These wild theories never applies to our home states

Theflint1:
None of these things you say are facts.

Lagos' population according to NBS was estimated at 12.5M in the year 2016.

Its a fact that Lagos has significant higher migration into it than other states

2016 is 10yrs ago

Official census was last done in 2006 which puts Lagos at 10m. That was 20yrs ago

BlueRayDick:
Well, some religious organizations with universities that have medical schools have decent teaching hospitals but they are not cheap .

Then there are private hospitals too with world class facilities too and they are equally not cheap .

The problem is if you have a serious medical emergency , before they take you to some of those facilities (even if you have the funds ) , you may not make the trip due to the distance .

It shouldn't be restricted to Teaching hospital alone big hospital too as they have the resources to do it
Let it even be available even if costly. We cant say despite the cost of the private religious Unis they havent been a net positive.

Its a big problem when you even have the money but you only have LUTH and Lasuth as the options in a state of over 20m.
Even with the best medical crew they will be so limited in what they can do

In the City metropolitan area that I live, according to chatgpt there are about 100 big hospitals(400 to 1000 beds), only about 8 are govt owned, about 35 are religious organizations owner, 15 secular private non profit, 40 private for profit.

Its a disaster to have 200 beds and 20000 needing a bed

raumdeuter:
Are schools in Edo govt, documents streets written in Bini language?

Knowing all these theory yet your party LP candidate in your state gubernatorial election waxed a full album in his native language clad in his native attire


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5f40EPtk3s?is=d-syGXu6iGs1N2OJ

You can invite GRV to Edo to come contest

These wild theories never applies to our home states

The LP candidate came a very distant third, and I personally found this video reeking of desperation.

The candidate I supported doesn't speak any of the local dialects and speaks English with a noticable h-factor.

Theflint1:
The LP candidate came a very distant third, and I personally found this video reeking of desperation.

The candidate I supported doesn't speak any of the local dialects and speaks English with a noticable h-factor.

Your party presented a candidate who actually showed that knowing the local language matters to him even though he could speak English perfectly and a former NBA chairman

The people of Edo didnt pick Asue, maybe if he didnt need translators to speak to his kinsmen maybe it would be governor

raumdeuter:
Its a fact that Lagos has significant higher migration into it than other states

2016 is 10yrs ago

Official census was last done in 2006 which puts Lagos at 10m. That was 20yrs ago

And is there any evidence on population trends in Lagos that shows that the 10M population has tripled?

Ibime:
Professor Jason Arday (RIP) just entered the chat

I don't know his profile well I will think he oversold his abilities. Like an Otedola claiming to be Samad Rabiu(gap big but fit dey believable) is different from Cubana claiming to be Rabiu(gap too big)

He would on the average be more intelligent than a regular guy and passable enough to hang around without sticking out.

Maybe a mod tier unit level PhD but not Cambridge PhD standard


You cant survive pretending to be a PhD in Cambridge and survive more than a few weeks.
When hes not Frank Abagnale

raumdeuter:
Your party presented a candidate who actually showed that knowing the local language matters to him even though he could speak English perfectly and a former NBA chairman

The people of Edo didnt pick Asue, maybe if he didnt need translators to speak to his kinsmen maybe it would be governor

And how did that prevent his coming a very distant third, or prevent his abandonment by people who barely two years earlier voted enmaase for LP?

There's no previous governor that has coasted on speaking local dialect (hence Olumide Akpatas dance was especially comical), and as with every other state of the country, all our previous governors have done okay speaking English alone.

Theflint1:
And is there any evidence on population trends in Lagos that shows that the 10M population has tripled?

Below are the words of the current deputy governor

Lagos Deputy Governor, Dr. Obafemi Hamzat, has disclosed that no fewer than 6000 people enter Lagos on a daily basis, with about 3000 of them staying back with no known addresses.

He said the population of Lagos estimated at about 27m

https://dailytrust.com/6000-people-enter-lagos-daily-but-only-3000-leave-deputy-gov

Theflint1:
And how did that prevent his coming a very distant third, or prevent his abandonment by people who barely two years earlier voted enmaase for LP?

There's no previous governor that has coasted on speaking local dialect (hence Olumide Akpatas dance was especially comical), and as with every other state of the country, all our previous governors have done okay speaking English alone.

The man who identifies stronger than Olumide won the election and he is governor today

Bring a Chinese or Hausa man to run and win then we will believe your theory

raumdeuter:
The man who identifies stronger than Olumide won the election and he is governor today

Bring a Chinese or Hausa man to run and win then we will believe your theory

The person that went everywhere calling himself son of the soil and that released an album to show home ties came a very distant third.

You're implying that every election victory is reduced simply to who speaks local language best.

The current Enugu governor speaks bad Igbo.

Donald Duke has said he didn't speak Efik when he was elected governor.

The concept of reducing elections to tribal dance contest is a new concept that's been made popular by APC.

raumdeuter:
It shouldn't be restricted to Teaching hospital alone big hospital too as they have the resources to do it
Let it even be available even if costly. We cant say despite the cost of the private religious Unis they havent been a net positive.

Its a big problem when you even have the money but you only have LUTH and Lasuth as the options in a state of over 20m.
Even with the best medical crew they will be so limited in what they can do

In the City metropolitan area that I live, according to chatgpt there are about 100 big hospitals(400 to 1000 beds), only about 8 are govt owned, about 35 are religious organizations owner, 15 secular private non profit, 40 private for profit.

Its a disaster to have 200 beds and 20000 needing a bed

Well, I live and work in Lagos so I can’t speak for other states .

I know hospitals like Evacare , Lagoon hospitals , First Cardiologists , Duchess hospital ( where Osinbajo had surgery even as a sitting vice president ) , Redinton hospital
, etc have state of the art medical facilities which majority of the average citizens cannot afford when push comes to shove .

I have utilized the services of Evercare hospital in Lekki (which was paid for by my employers ) , but I know even a Director in Lagos state civil service cannot afford the cost of some of these facilities from out of pocket .

So, that leaves the civil servant , trader , military officers , paramilitary officers , and other common men at the mercy of LASUTH and LUTH where the everyday chorus is “No bed space “.

raumdeuter:
Below are the words of the current deputy governor

Lagos Deputy Governor, Dr. Obafemi Hamzat, has disclosed that no fewer than 6000 people enter Lagos on a daily basis, with about 3000 of them staying back with no known addresses.

He said the population of Lagos estimated at about 27m

https://dailytrust.com/6000-people-enter-lagos-daily-but-only-3000-leave-deputy-gov

You are a learned man , you should ask Hamzat how he came about his figures . How did he confirm the number of those who stay behind and those who go back to their respective state of residents after conducting their business in Lagos ?

Hamzat is just playing to the gallery with those figures that have no empirical evidenceti back the date he’s throwing around brazenly . He’s feeding into APC supporters’ bias and they will in turn defend the government because they believe a politician like Hamzat can tell no lies

raumdeuter:
Na trainee architect Lagos actually need.

If not for bgtree why will anyone be saying this in public. Can you trust your personal company yo a trainee never mind a whole state of 20m people

Trainee architect. Hehehe.

raumdeuter:
Why dont giant religious organizations in Nigeria invest in building big world class hospitals?

Many do, however, they are not accessible nor affordable, 2 core dimensions of any quality healthcare system.

BlueRayDick:
You are a learned man , you should ask Hamzat how he came about his figures . How did he confirm the number of those who stay behind and those who go back to their respective state of residents after conducting their business in Lagos ?

Hamzat is just playing to the gallery with those figures that have no empirical evidenceti back the date he’s throwing around brazenly . He’s feeding into APC supporters’ bias and they will in turn defend the government because they believe a politician like Hamzat can tell no lies

Hamzat is in govt and they have the data of the people coming in. He might have inflated it even if you cut the inflow and outflow by half its still a huge number

People have historically migrated to Lagos but you will also note that the rate is higher in the last 20yrs for economic and insecurity reasons. I know several people who didnt live in Lagos before they finished school but had to relocate to Lagos because thats where jobs are

Plus insecurity too, people who think their states are no longer secure move to Lagos

Its been happening more and more

Look around you. And you can see the places that used to be empty spaces are now filled with buildings. The one floor are being demolished to build multi story houses housing many. Places that used to be bush are now fully grown centers,

Roland17:
Many do, however, they are not accessible nor affordable, 2 core dimensions of any quality healthcare system.

I believe for any product including Healthcare
Quality
Affordable
Available

You can you can only have at most 2 of these

There are some cases where they will still refer you to LUTH to go and join the queue wey reach Ojuelegba

If the hospital can be big about >500 plus beds and have equipment on the level of LUTH then we have 5 of those in a place like Lagos will go a long way to help

Some people are willing to pay but with your money you still need one perm sec, one CMD to call in favors to get a bed

raumdeuter:
Hamzat is in govt and they have the data of the people coming in. He might have inflated it even if you cut the inflow and outflow by half its still a huge number

Good thing you agreed he may have inflated the figures which of course is for political reasons .

That makes Theflint1 position very valid that there’s no way Lagos population is 30 million like you claimed earlier . It’s just the conjecture of Hamzat and those in government in Lagos which you only re-echoed