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BlueRayDick:
I served in the north but schooled in Lagos .

None of the people we served in the same PPA during same set made it to Lagos except those who were originally resident in Lagos .

Myself and one other lady who lived in Ifo , Ogun state came back to Lagos . Yet I had friends who are based in Kaduna , Jos ( he’s now a lecturer at UNIJOS) , Abia state , 2 from Delta state , Kano , Bauchi and Oyo state .

Some of them became self employed in their state and others got job jobs with their state civil service over time .

I think you are just making spurious assumptions don’t even align with experience of someone like me .

If you noticed i specified Southern Nigeria

I schooled outside Lagos but in Southern Nigeria

Most of my classmates who weren't living in Lagos back in school found their way to reside in Lagos within 5yrs of graduation (for those who didn't japa)

Which is logical because 50% of corporate employment happens in Lagos

raumdeuter:
How much do you think its the cost of upgrading and doing all these and from which resources?
Its the same resources they will use to provide free education, environment sanitation, Healthcare, etc there is no way or actually nowhere in the world this is done without demanding over 50% of income as taxes

Govt alone cannot fix all these issues

Imagine if all education from primary to university depends on mainly govt alone

We need a combination of Govt, private, religious NGO to make things work. That's what happens in all those saner climes we like to point to

You have shifted from healthcare being discussed to pivot to other amenities not being discussed (which government is not even providing )

You have decided not to consider the possibility of government ever providing anything for the people off their taxes .

I still get receipt of you condemning Jonathan for removing subsidy when corruption had not been tackled o. Suddenly u don’t care about corruption and will keep reminding us how government cannot do anything for free as if government has any business dem Dey use earn the money

raumdeuter:
Corruption is overstated in Nigeria. The major problem is the resources are too little for our needs

There is no system where there isn't Corruption in the world. Its an easy red meat to voters

Dayo no na! Corruption is the reason why resources seem too little for our needs. Corruption is a massive problem in Nigeria. Infact corruption is a major requirement to becoming a leader or administrator in our public system.

BlueRayDick:
You have shifted from healthcare being discussed to pivot to other amenities not being discussed (which government is not even providing )

You have decided not to consider the possibility of government ever providing anything for the people off their taxes .

I still get receipt of you condemning Jonathan for removing subsidy when corruption had not been tackled o. Suddenly u don’t care about corruption and will keep reminding us how government cannot do anything for free as if government has any business dem Dey use earn the money

The money comes from a purse. The money already spent on education or sanitation cannot be spent again on Healthcare

The taxes collected is what is being spent currently but its not enough. We either have to increase taxes significantly or have other areas of the society pitch in

The days of Jonathan posed different challenges. Now a much more bigger percentage of our income goes to insecurity than any time since civil war

The shortfall have to come from somewhere

One gets realistic with situations before them. There was a time a graduate gets a job and car after going to school where they get fed chicken as lunch

In 2026 that is not realistic and its not wise to be harping that under Shagari we used to get this and that

raumdeuter:
Corruption is overstated in Nigeria. The major problem is the resources are too little for our needs

There is no system where there isn't Corruption in the world. Its an easy red meat to voters

Middle East countries have leader who probably steal as much as us or more but have enough left to cater for their people

When we calculate the National income per head of the country and compare to other nations we will discover where we really dey

Below is you suggesting corruption as the bane of this country when Jonathan ur arch enemy was the president of this country .

Since Buhari tenure and Tinubu’s ascension to the throne corruption don’t really matter any more . Haba !

The national income per head was much better under Jonathan whom you loved to hate; it’s worse under ur MCM now and here you are telling us corruption is overstated .

I just hope you don’t believe your own half truths

raumdeuter:
The money comes from a purse. The money already spent on education or sanitation cannot be spent again on Healthcare

The taxes collected is what is being spent currently but its not enough. We either have to increase taxes significantly or have other areas of the society pitch in

The days of Jonathan posed different challenges. Now a much more bigger percentage of our income goes to insecurity than any time since civil war

The shortfall have to come from somewhere

One gets realistic with situations before them. There was a time a graduate gets a job and car after going to school where they get fed chicken as lunch

In 2026 that is not realistic and its not wise to be harping that under Shagari we used to get this and that

We talk about priorities . The VP residence repairs cost of 27 billion naira is not a priority for a country where the healthcare system is in shambles . But I guess you won’t agree with me

Roland17:
Dayo no na! Corruption is the reason why resources seem too little for our needs. Corruption is a massive problem in Nigeria. Infact corruption is a major requirement to becoming a leader or administrator in our public system.

I completely disagree

Take any country they have significant corruption and bureaucracy which consume money but they get enough done for their people despite it

Nigerians might be corrupt but its not the main reason things are bad

A whole Nigerian budget in 2026 is $50bn for 250m. Without corruption thats $200 per person for the whole year

I put this in AI and this is the results

2026 government budget per person in West Africa
Approximate government expenditure divided by 2026 population; USD conversions are approximate and use representative 2026 exchange rates.
Cabo Verde
$1.8K
Côte d’Ivoire
$884
Ghana
$784
Senegal
$654
Mauritania
$622
Guinea
$483
Togo
$472
Benin
$467
Guinea-Bissau
$392
Burkina Faso
$292
Mali
$237
Liberia
$218
Gambia
$211
Nigeria
$205
Niger
$178
Sierra Leone
$148

BlueRayDick:
Below is you suggesting corruption as the bane of this country when Jonathan ur arch enemy was the president of this country .

Since Buhari tenure and Tinubu’s ascension to the throne corruption don’t really matter any more . Haba !

The national income per head was much better under Jonathan whom you loved to hate; it’s worse under ur MCM now and here you are telling us corruption is overstated .

I just hope you don’t believe your own half truths

Like I said we have new challenges that are not as much back in Jonathan days you live in the time you find yourself. How much were we spending chasing bokoharam bandits terrorists etc

I can carry placard that during the time of Shagari education was free which included school bursary included lunch guaranteed jobs, visa free to most countries or live in the time I find myself

The days when School cert will give you a decent job rather than face the reality of the days I live now

raumdeuter:
Corruption is overstated in Nigeria. The major problem is the resources are too little for our needs

There is no system where there isn't Corruption in the world. Its an easy red meat to voters

Middle East countries have leader who probably steal as much as us or more but have enough left to cater for their people

When we calculate the National income per head of the country and compare to other nations we will discover where we really dey

Actually corruption is not overstated for the reason that Nigerians do not have a filter or a limit or even basic long term thinking

You see people who expect 20 % or more kickback for project. Some have actually said we will pay you 100%,just give us 90%.happened to a friend on a military contract. We have seen ceos destroy companies on this principle. Kill the goose laying the eggs with no plan for tomorrow.

And all of this contributes to failure in every part of society.

Why would you steal diesel for a generator In a hospital? Why would you take money from fake drug merchants instead of jailing them?

Your koreans, Chinese oyibo do 5%.and when you overdo they make an example of you. Here it is just a show for camera and it almost always goes nowhere, likely because too many people are too greedy and their hands are all in it.

GloriousGbola:
Actually corruption is not overstated for the reason that Nigerians do not have a filter or a limit or even basic long term thinking

You see people who expect 20 % or more kickback for project. Some have actually said we will pay you 100%,just give us 90%.happened to a friend on a military contract. We have seen ceos destroy companies on this principle. Kill the goose laying the eggs with no plan for tomorrow.

And all of this contributes to failure in every part of society.

Why would you steal diesel for a generator In a hospital? Why would you take money from fake drug merchants instead of jailing them?

Your koreans, Chinese oyibo do 5%.and when you overdo they make an example of you. Here it is just a show for camera and it almost always goes nowhere, likely because too many people are too greedy and their hands are all in it.

Let me put it this way. Eating an extra meat in the house of a poor man where things are tight does more damage

We are not rich enough to accommodate our corruption appetite

You are on a budget on Ghana want to do corruption like Arab princes

raumdeuter:
I completely disagree

Take any country they have significant corruption and bureaucracy which consume money but they get enough done for their people despite it

Nigerians might be corrupt but its not the main reason things are bad

A whole Nigerian budget in 2026 is $50bn for 250m. Without corruption thats $200 per person for the whole year

I put this in AI and this is the results

2026 government budget per person in West Africa
Approximate government expenditure divided by 2026 population; USD conversions are approximate and use representative 2026 exchange rates.
Cabo Verde
$1.8K
Côte d’Ivoire
$884
Ghana
$784
Senegal
$654
Mauritania
$622
Guinea
$483
Togo
$472
Benin
$467
Guinea-Bissau
$392
Burkina Faso
$292
Mali
$237
Liberia
$218
Gambia
$211
Nigeria
$205
Niger
$178
Sierra Leone
$148

This is immensely misleading. There are thousands of peer reviewed research that have shown the consequences of corruption in our economic realities. How massive historical corruption has perpetuated poverty than any other factor in Nigeria. Look no further than the management of the subsidy removal in Nigeria.

It is one thing to not generate enough, it is another thing to embezzle, poorly prioritize and mismanage the resources you have and that is the case in Nigeria. It is not shocking that the countries who rank top in corruption have same economic realities.

If no be corruption, projects will be accurately priced without inflating prices. What is the true cost of most of the elephant projects we have in Nigeria?

raumdeuter:
Let me put it this way. Eating an extra meat in the house of a poor man where things are tight does more damage

We are not rich enough to accommodate our corruption appetite

You are on a budget on Ghana want to do corruption like Arab princes

So, you are saying the corruption is a major factor?

raumdeuter:
Like I said we have new challenges that are not as much back in Jonathan days you live in the time you find yourself. How much were we spending chasing bokoharam bandits terrorists etc

I can carry placard that during the time of Shagari education was free which included school bursary included lunch guaranteed jobs, visa free to most countries or live in the time I find myself

The days when School cert will give you a decent job rather than face the reality of the days I live now

There was boko haram during Jonathan’s era and it was one of the reasons Jonathan was booted out . Talk another thing abeg !

raumdeuter:
Let me put it this way. Eating an extra meat in the house of a poor man where things are tight does more damage

We are not rich enough to accommodate our corruption appetite

You are on a budget on Ghana want to do corruption like Arab princes

It is not eating extra meat, it is clearing the pot. And like I said we have all seen colleagues who are well paid and compensated act in insane company destroying ways and then have others aggressively defend their actions.

Roland17:
This is immensely misleading. There are thousands of peer reviewed research that have shown the consequences of corruption in our economic realities. How massive historical corruption has perpetuated poverty than any other factor in Nigeria. Look no further than the management of the subsidy removal in Nigeria.

It is one thing to not generate enough, it is another thing to embezzle, poorly prioritize and mismanage the resources you have and that is the case in Nigeria. It is not shocking that the countries who rank top in corruption have same economic realities.

If no be corruption, projects will be accurately priced without inflating prices. What is the true cost of most of the elephant projects we have in Nigeria?

A sitting president whom he famz approved a 15 trillion contract to a company linked to a man who was indicted in corruption cases involving Abacha and he’s saying corruption is overstated in Nigeria .

Raumdeuter just doesn’t know how to say it with his full chest that he’s down with corruption like his principal .

It is what it is !

raumdeuter:
Let me put it this way. Eating an extra meat in the house of a poor man where things are tight does more damage

We are not rich enough to accommodate our corruption appetite

You are on a budget on Ghana want to do corruption like Arab princes

Why is anyone asking for extra meat in a poor man’s house? Isn’t that the greed that feeds corruption? If everybody take one meat, knowing the house is poor, shey dem go die?

It is not the absence of meat in the house that is the problem, it is the management of how the meat is shared or used that is the problem.

BlueRayDick:
A sitting president whom he famz approved a 15 trillion contract to a company linked to a man who was indicted in corruption cases involving Abacha and he’s saying corruption is overstated in Nigeria .

Ramdeuter just doesn’t know how to say it with his full chest that he’s down with corruption like his principal .

It is what it is !

Chagoury has been a consistent factor in Nigerian business since the days of IBB

This is a headline linking him to your fave Jonathan

https://www.africaintelligence.com/west-africa/2020/06/23/all-powerful-during-jonathan-era-magnate-gilbert-chagoury-lies-low-under-buhari,109239855-art

Roland17:
Why is anyone asking for extra meat in a poor man’s house? Isn’t that the greed that feeds corruption? If everybody take one meat, knowing the house is poor, shey dem go die?

It is not the absence of meat in the house that is the problem, it is the management of how the meat is shared or used that is the problem.

The problem is more of poverty than the extra meat

Its like using razor to slice a child who eats an extra meat. In your home now, na you dey beg your kids to eat meat

BlueRayDick:
A sitting president whom he famz approved a 15 trillion contract to a company linked to a man who was indicted in corruption cases involving Abacha and he’s saying corruption is overstated in Nigeria .

Raumdeuter just doesn’t know how to say it with his full chest that he’s down with corruption like his principal .

It is what it is !

Dayo is lying between his teeth and he knows it.To your point which I have also alluded to, it is corruption that is perpetuating the incremental spike in corruption. When you evaluate every system in Nigeria, the recurring theme is corruption!

He is comparing our budget to the US budget. You can’t compare your economy to that of the US. It’s like the illiterate D7 that came back from UK and telling his people that Nigerians are having it great under Asiwaju because fuel is cheaper in Nigeria! Is his minimum wage better than that of the UK? Are the systems in the UK comparable to those in Edo state or Nigeria?

GloriousGbola:
It is not eating extra meat, it is clearing the pot. And like I said we have all seen colleagues who are well paid and compensated act in insane company destroying ways and then have others aggressively defend their actions.

There are some people who are that bad and they are in every country those who take everything but most take some and leave some

Roland17:
Dayo is lying between his teeth and he knows it.To your point which I have also alluded to, it is corruption that is perpetuating the incremental spike in corruption. When you evaluate every system in Nigeria, the recurring theme is corruption!

He is comparing our budget to the US budget. You can’t compare your economy to that of the US. It’s like the illiterate D7 that came back from UK and telling his people that Nigerians are having it great under Asiwaju because fuel is cheaper in Nigeria! Is his minimum wage better than that of the UK? Are the systems in the UK comparable to those in Edo state or Nigeria?

The list i presented was specifically west African nations which is where Nigeria is none is US

I am comparing Nigeria budget per head to those of our neighbors and we are almost bottom

BlueRayDick:
There was boko haram during Jonathan’s era and it was one of the reasons Jonathan was booted out . Talk another thing abeg !

We still have Boko haram and now added other things. Now the fallout of Libya and the subregion has fully matured

In Jonathan times we didnt have prevalent banditry for example

raumdeuter:
The problem is more of poverty than the extra meat

It’s like using razor to slice a child who eats an extra meat. In your home now, na you dey beg your kids to eat mean

No, the problem is the greed that made anyone eat extra meat.

The poor home obviously could afford the meat but someone in the home decides to eat his own portion and that of another and sometimes two people.

Greed isn’t about poverty, it is a personal trait found in human irrespective of social status. It is the greed in Nigeria that is making our politicians and administrators inflate projects, initiate elephant projects, knowing fully well we don’t have enough!

That is the greed that perpetuates poverty!

afrodoc2:
So, you are saying the corruption is a major factor?

It is but not as big as we make it to be. The average Nigerian thinks without corruption we will be like Dubai. Even with zero corruption we dont have that much

The major reason is we dont have enough. We have budgets per head that is almost the worst in west Africa surely corruption will hit home more in a poorer country than in one with more resources

Roland17:
No, the problem is the greed that made anyone eat extra meat.

The poor home obviously could afford the meat but someone in the home decides to eat his own portion and that of another and sometimes two people.

Greed isn’t about poverty, it is a personal trait found in human irrespective of social status. It is the greed in Nigeria that is making our politicians and administrators inflate projects, initiate elephant projects, knowing fully well we don’t have enough!

That is the greed that perpetuates poverty!

I think its poverty and sense of scarcity that perpetuate greed

Look at the Nigerian kid that was stealing meat in pot, by the time you give them a whole chicken they will gorge and even leave it

One of my friends growing up in Nigeria they had a cattle farm, he will tell us their parents will use cane to force them to eat meat while many jn Nigerian homes were getting dice sized meats

You are greedy to what's scarce thats why people dont steal grass or sand

raumdeuter:
The list i presented was specifically west African nations which is where Nigeria is none is US

I am comparing Nigeria budget per head to those of our neighbors and we are almost bottom

Which factor contributed to us not being able to afford more? Did our budget just come from nowhere? Historical bone deep corruption over the years has eroded our collective wealth.

Are you telling me the West African countries on that list have more resources than Nigeria? Or are they better at managing their resources in comparison to Nigeria?

Roland17:
This is immensely misleading. There are thousands of peer reviewed research that have shown the consequences of corruption in our economic realities. How massive historical corruption has perpetuated poverty than any other factor in Nigeria. Look no further than the management of the subsidy removal in Nigeria.

It is one thing to not generate enough, it is another thing to embezzle, poorly prioritize and mismanage the resources you have and that is the case in Nigeria. It is not shocking that the countries who rank top in corruption have same economic realities.

If no be corruption, projects will be accurately priced without inflating prices. What is the true cost of most of the elephant projects we have in Nigeria?

Look at corruption that happens in Arab nations
The leaders all have luxury homes and jets all over the world yet there is enough left after the corruption to go around the people

You think the ordinary Qatari or Emirati wont be screaming seeing Mansoor and Khelafi spending billions on vanity football washing projects in Europe if they were suffering?

They have enough that they are sponsoring foreign govt buying jets for presidents and flying every western baddie for lunch in Dubai

raumdeuter:
I think its poverty and sense of scarcity that perpetuate greed

Look at the Nigerian kid that was stealing meat in pot, by the time you give them a whole chicken they will gorge and even leave it

One of my friends growing up in Nigeria they had a cattle farm, he will tell us their parents will use cane to force them to eat meat while many jn Nigerian homes were getting dice sized meats

You are greedy to what's scarce thats why people dont steal grass or sand

Our elites are massively corrupt, they have amassed wealth that 10 generations from now can’t finish…is it a lack of that is fueling the corruption or greed? Why are they not satisfied despite accumulating generational wealth?

Roland17:
Which factor contributed to us not being able to afford more? Did our budget just come from nowhere? Historical bone deep corruption over the years has eroded our collective wealth.

Are you telling me the West African countries on that list have more resources than Nigeria? Or are they better at managing their resources in comparison to Nigeria?

We have a huge population more than our neighbors so our resources dont go as far as theirs

Nigeria alone has almost the population half the entire west African population and one-sixth of Africa. On top which resources?

Roland17:
Our elites are massively corrupt, they have amassed wealth that 10 generations from now can’t finish…is it a lack of that is fueling the corruption or greed? Why are they not satisfied despite accumulating generational wealth?

Its the ordinary people that become elites. Maybe that amassing wealth is the feeling that this is scarce might not last so let me take as much right now.

A regular Nigeria child looks like he or she is greedy because we have been dealing with lack all their life

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raumdeuter:
We have a huge population more than our neighbors so our resources dont go as far as theirs

Nigeria alone has almost the population half the entire west African population

Population is a convenient excuse to accommodate corruption and that is why it continues to get worse. We are mismanaging what we have, inappropriately prioritizing our needs as a country while accommodating massive corruption. Many have questioned if Nigeria is really poor or are we bad at managing our collective wealth.