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MaxInDHouse:
Now it's clear you don't know what you are saying!🥱

There is freedom of speech, expression and worship so whatever i say is not imposed on anyone it's when you are forcing your ideas on people using weapons to threaten them that could lead to violence but when you declare your beliefs just as you've been doing on this forum how does that translate to force?

Just say the points i'm making is disturbing you that's all!🙂

lawani:
ISSUING THREATS OF ETERNAL DAMNATION OR DESTRUCTION AGAINST LAW ABIDING PEOPLE ISN'T COVERED BY FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

AntiChristian:
I always wonder how they recognised Jesus when they've never met him before! What if na devil dey toy with them?

MaxInDHouse:
Where are your ancestors?
Dead!
Do you have a hope of seeing them again?
No!
So how does the idea of seeing my loved ones again translate to threat?

The Bible God never promised to torment anyone after death what He promised is resurrection (bringing back to life) those who proved to be virtuous {Job 14:13-15} so they can live forever! Psalms 37:29

So open up that this truth is what you don't want to hear and of course nobody is forcing it on you that's where freedom of speech and expression comes to play.

It's like two politicians wanting to campaign and tell voters what they have in mind to do for their citizens then one is saying the other person shouldn't talk.
Why?
Because his campaign method is killing opponent's ambition!🤣

lawani:
DO YOU THREATEN LAW ABIDING UNBELIEVERS THAT THEY WILL CEASE TO EXIST IF THEY DONT BELIEVE?

MaxInDHouse:
There you go again deceiving yourself!🥱

If people who knows themselves in one community agreed how does that makes them peaceful?

It simply means they have a ruler who understands his people but when a group goes round the world to achieve that among people who are of different languages, culture, background, race and social status then it's no longer about a human ruler but God at work! Galatians 5:22-23

So stop deceiving yourself!🙂

Roycemadeit:
Combination of preaching!

Roycemadeit:
Doctrinal unity!

Roycemadeit:
Political neutrality!

Roycemadeit:
Refusal to participate in war!

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus sent his disciples to preach and teach globally! Matthew 28:19-20


Jesus said his disciples will have the same line of thought regarding doctrine! John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10


Jesus said his disciples won't be a part of world political struggles. John 17:14-16


Jesus said his disciples will be as wise as serpent and harmless as dove! Matthew 10:16 compare to Matthew 26:52

If all these points doesn't proves that God is behind a group then what exactly do you expect to see as evidence that an organized people are disciples of Jesus the man who taught all these things in the Bible?

For your information when Jesus said his disciples will serve as his witnesses globally {Act 1:8} it doesn't mean they will bear the group name CHRISTIANS rather he meant they will represent the core values of his teachings everywhere they are found.

Your blind arguments just proves what i said earlier:

You are now fighting tough to overturn what you once said that i silenced you with facts.

So my friend i understood you very very well!🙂

Roycemadeit:
Doctrinal unity? Many religious groups have their own unified doctrines.

MaxInDHouse:
Perhaps i need to school you on what doctrinal unity truly means!

It simply means there will be peace among them but today all these religions have weapon carriers among them which means they don't agree that's why they resort to violence using weapons to settle their disparities. Matthew 26:52🥱

lawani:
So billionaire Jehovah witnesses don't use weapons to protect themselves from kidnappers in Nigeria?

MaxInDHouse:
Please i don't mean to be rude but how do you use your power of reasoning?

Surely you need to be schooled on this matter!🙂

A billionaire walked up to Jesus asking:
“Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit everlasting life?" Luke 18:18

After proving that he's been a law abiding citizen all his life Jesus told the billionaire:

“There is still one thing lacking about you: Sell all the things you have and distribute the proceeds to the poor, and you will have treasure in the heavens; and come be my follower.” Luke 18:22

The man walked away sadly as he couldn't meet up with Jesus' order so he told his disciples:

“How difficult it will be for those having money to make their way into the Kingdom of God! It is easier, in fact, for a camel to get through the eye of a sewing needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God.” Luke 18:24-25

LESSON LEARNED!
You can't keep material things as your choicest possessions and at the same time be a disciple of Christ.

WHY?

Because all eyes will be on you both the good, bad and vicious people all because of worldly riches! Matthew 6:19-21

Now ask yourself:

How can an individual be one of Jehovah's Witnesses but refuses to go out preaching and teaching along with his or her fellow believers?

Have you ever seen Jehovah's Witnesses preaching in your street and some body guards following them because of one billionaire to be protected among Jehovah's Witnesses?

Ọmọ now you know why JWs are the one and only true Christian organization globally because you can't be one of us without going out to preach and teach in your neighborhood so if you're scared of being kidnapped due to riches then you can't be one of us! Luke 18:25🙂

lawani:
You are just going round in circles. A JW having a business employing hundreds of people (and they exist) will be kidnapped if they live in an area prone to such if they don't have armed body guards. They can go about preaching in areas not prone to such or where their identity is not known. In short if you say policing or national defense is wrong then you are leeching on the system because those things are the reasons you are able to operate in peace in any environment. You leech on the system and you condemn things that benefit you.

MaxInDHouse:
Perhaps i need to school you on what doctrinal unity truly means!

It simply means there will be peace among them but today all these religions have weapon carriers among them which means they don't agree that's why they resort to violence using weapons to settle their disparities. Matthew 26:52🥱

Roycemadeit:
Not carrying weapons yourself doesn't mean you live without protection from people who carry weapons. If a Jehovah's Witness in northern Nigeria is protected by the police, military, private security, or other armed personnel, then the claim that peaceful society exists simply because your organization has eliminated the need for weapons becomes...

MaxInDHouse:
@Roycemadeit
In the below picture you see many people carrying weapons while just two men are there in their midst controlling all the resources in their countries.
Do you think it's the weapons that's doing the work or the mentality that there must be right and wrong?
Do you think those carrying the weapons have all the things they want/need so that they fully agree to stand protecting those two old men?🤔

Roycemadeit:
The answer is: both can matter. The soldiers' discipline and obedience are the mentality, while their weapons provide a physical means of protection and enforcement. Remove either one and you change the security arrangement.

MaxInDHouse:
So you think it's your police or military that's protecting you shey?
Ọmọ you guys have a long way to go.
Now i know for sure that people really need the wisdom Jesus impacted in us.
Some individuals within a society were trained and given weapons to carry about and these individuals are also in need/want of so many things that riches can buy yet they mentally subject themselves to average lifestyle instead of forcefully using the weapons in their hands to collect whatever they want or need just as others whom you call "CRIMINALS" are doing and you believe it's because they're carrying weapons that's why you are protected shey?
What if the same people holding weapons decide to rob you who will now protect you from being robbed?
Ọmọ it's not the weapons in the hands of those wearing uniforms that's serving as protection rather the mentality that there should be right and wrong which doesn't even have anything to do with physical weapons at all.
So if you now see people who mentally subject themselves to rules having to do with right and wrong without the use of physical weapons they are the ones proving that they are real humans not those deceiving themselves claiming they are being protected by uniformed men and women that can decide to attack or even rob you using the same weapons given to them!🙂

Roycemadeit:
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You're creating a false choice between “weapons” and “mentality.”

Of course people need laws, values and a sense of right and wrong. But that doesn't make physical protection irrelevant.

A police officer can believe stealing is wrong and still need a weapon to stop an armed robber. A soldier can believe murder is wrong and still carry a weapon to defend people from someone who intends to kill them.

And if your argument is that criminals would stop being criminals if everyone simply had the right mentality, then you haven't explained why your organization needs courts, police protection, security arrangements or any other institution that deals with people who don't share that mentality.

The existence of moral restraint does not eliminate the need for physical protection.

That's why saying “we don't carry weapons” doesn't prove that weapons are unnecessary. It only proves that you personally choose not to carry them.

Roycemadeit:
Why your organization needs courts, police protection, security arrangements or any other institution that deals with people who don't share that mentality.

MaxInDHouse:
We don't need any of them our God said we will see reasons why He must destroy all those who are not members of our faith because if everyone is our member this earth will become a paradise!

So you have judged yourself as you said it's not members of our faith that's causing the problems leading you people to believe in the use of weapons! Revelation 6:3-4🙂

lawani:
You don't know it is wrong to be saying God is burning law abiding people for unbelief? Then you can't be trusted to make any important decision outside youraelf

Maximus692:
When did i tell you my God will burn people nah?

Hope you're still following our discussion o i'm not churchgoers talking about some Hellfire!🙂

MaxInDHouse:
So the religion that achieved what Isaiah says is the one and only true religion {Isaiah 2:2-4} that is the fruit expected of the one and only true religion! Matthew 7:16-18🙂

MaxInDHouse:
We don't need any of them our God said we will see reasons why He must destroy all those who are not members of our faith because if everyone is our member this earth will become a paradise!

So you have judged yourself as you said it's not members of our faith that's causing the problems leading you people to believe in the use of weapons! Revelation 6:3-4🙂

MaxInDHouse:
We don't need any of them our God said we will see reasons why He must destroy all those who are not members of our faith because if everyone is our member this earth will become a paradise!

So you have judged yourself as you said it's not members of our faith that's causing the problems leading you people to believe in the use of weapons! Revelation 6:3-4🙂

lawani:
Let them go into a bear forest without weapons and see if they won't be lunch for bears. Bears don't run from humans. They see them as lunch. In Northern Europe it is illegal to go into the forest without arms because of bears. Meanwhile some human beings that we live with in our cities are more dangerous than wild animals. They are more dangerous than any bear. They look upon you as lunch

MaxInDHouse:
Question:

Do you think the youths holding weapons have all what they want in life?

If they don't what makes them feel it's better to subject themselves to the rule of law instead of using the weapons to forcefully collect whatever they want from vulnerable ones like those two feeble old men?

Is it the same weapons they are carrying that's doing that work or the mentality that there should be right and wrong?🤔