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Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 3:23pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
You'd have had a point if he didn't say it. But saying it meant he wasn't expecting he was coming back
You are taking a joke literally. Instead of seeing the context and subtext.

Dark humour "its like" not "it is"
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by QuinQQ(op): 3:25pm On Oct 06
lindqvistbergst:
"You" dont understand.

You dont understand i have 3 decades of men like George carlin, Ricky Gervais, Jimmy carr, Billy connelly and the cornish jethro in my head.

You dont....those are the most offensive white men ever "if" you have a sacred cow like Nigerians do.

George carlin is why I research everything I want to know then question it all.

Ricky Gervais is why I personally think religion is silly.

Jimmy carr is why I see dark humour every where.

Billy connelly and Jethro are why I swear so much. And nothing is taboo to me. You trying growing up with people like that flooding your brain....feck...the way you use diaspora would just drive carlin nuts like it drives me nuts.

Its why I can mock myself and Nigerians cannot mock themselves.
You said they're the most offensive WHITE men. Who are the most offensive men?
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by QuinQQ(op): 3:27pm On Oct 06
lindqvistbergst:
You are taking a joke literally. Instead of seeing the context and subtext.

Dark humour "its like" not "it is"
You've spoiled the whole flow because you lack a sense of humour.
I was pretending I didn't know it was a joke. That's the humour
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 3:29pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
You said they're the most offensive WHITE men. Who are the most offensive men?
See. IF YOU HAVE A SACRED COW. you cannot take half a sentence and twist it to your meaning. There was a whole sentence and context. That you completely ignored to fit your narrative and attempt to force a loaded question.

That is a philosophical zombie.

That is you sea lioning.

That is a pigeon playing chess.
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 3:30pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
You've spoiled the whole flow because you lack a sense of humour.
I was pretending I didn't know it was a joke. That's the humour
No, what you are were doing was sea lioning.
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 3:34pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
You've spoiled the whole flow because you lack a sense of humour.
I was pretending I didn't know it was a joke. That's the humour
Bombarding someone with questions over a joke to attempt to antagonise them is not humour. Its a word I cant type tactic.

And the word is a particular word the brits and aussies are fond of.
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by QuinQQ(op): 3:37pm On Oct 06
lindqvistbergst:
No, what you are were doing was sea lioning.
Not at all. Find out the difference between sealioning and deadpanning
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by QuinQQ(op): 3:41pm On Oct 06
lindqvistbergst:
See. IF YOU HAVE A SACRED COW. you cannot take half a sentence and twist it to your meaning. There was a whole sentence and context. That you completely ignored to fit your narrative and attempt to force a loaded question.

That is a philosophical zombie.

That is you sea lioning.

That is a pigeon playing chess.
Just trying to find out why you found it necessary to put the adjective "white" there
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 3:44pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
Not at all. Find out the difference between sealioning and deadpanning
No, deadpan is making a joke with a straight face and letting the implications do the work.

Like for example. Welsh men taking a sheep to a cliff edge because......it pushes back harder.

But you need to understand British history to understand that. There was a time in history where a welsh men would tell the police that was going to sleep a sheep over stealing it.

Why? Because back then one answer = prison. The other = death sentence.

Same with the Irish. How do you confuse an Irish man? Show him a line of shovels and tell him to take his pick. Thats deadpan but you need to understand the cultural history to get it.
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by QuinQQ(op): 3:44pm On Oct 06
lindqvistbergst:
Bombarding someone with questions over a joke to attempt to antagonise them is not humour. Its a word I cant type tactic.

And the word is a particular word the brits and aussies are fond of.
Thought you were trying to initiate a deadpan humour dialogue, turns out you have no sense of humour!
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 3:46pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
Just trying to find out why you found it necessary to put the adjective "white" there
Because they were and are called "the most offensive white men....IF....you have a sacred cow"

I never made that title i just understand.
You are twisting a linguistically correct sentence to FORCE IT into being about race not who they were and what they did.
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 3:47pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
Thought you were trying to initiate a deadpan humour dialogue, turns out you have no sense of humour!
No. Now you are trying to weasel out of it.
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by QuinQQ(op): 3:57pm On Oct 06
lindqvistbergst:
No, deadpan is making a joke with a straight face and letting the implications do the work.

Like for example. Welsh men taking a sheep to a cliff edge because......it pushes back harder.

But you need to understand British history to understand that. There was a time in history where a welsh men would tell the police that was going to sleep a sheep over stealing it.

Why? Because back then one answer = prison. The other = death sentence.

Same with the Irish. How do you confuse an Irish man? Show him a line of shovels and tell him to take his pick. Thats deadpan but you need to understand the cultural history to get it.
My friend, someone going along with what you said with a straight face, is deadpan humour!!
The straight answer would be: "Are you crazy? Why would an instructor in mid-flight suddenly want to step out for fresh air??!"
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 3:58pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
Thought you were trying to initiate a deadpan humour dialogue, turns out you have no sense of humour!
And this is a direct example of gaslighting because multiple times I said "dark humour" so that's you back peddling to attempt to change the narrative AFTER.....

Philosophical zombie.
Sea lioning.
Pigeon playing chess.

You "made" the assertion of deadpan not even knowing what deadpan is.
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by QuinQQ(op): 4:00pm On Oct 06
lindqvistbergst:
Because they were and are called "the most offensive white men....IF....you have a sacred cow"

I never made that title i just understand.
You are twisting a linguistically correct sentence to FORCE IT into being about race not who they were and what they did.
So you give that explanation to my question. Doesn't mean my question was not legitimate
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 4:01pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
My friend, someone going along with what you said with a straight face, is deadpan humour!!
The straight answer would be: "Are you crazy? Why would an instructor in mid-flight suddenly want to step out for fresh air??!"
No. And calling someone "crazy" over a joke. So a personal attack over a joke.

Deadpan literally cannot be done over text because you cannot see a face.

You got caught out so you are back peddling to change the narrative. A "highly documented" Nigerian tactic.
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 4:02pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
So you give that explanation to my question. Doesn't mean my question was not legitimate
Yes. It does. Look how many you peppered and bombarded "after" its dark humour. The literal definition of sea lioning.
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by QuinQQ(op): 4:03pm On Oct 06
lindqvistbergst:
And this is a direct example of gaslighting because multiple times I said "dark humour" so that's you back peddling to attempt to change the narrative AFTER.....

Philosophical zombie.
Sea lioning.
Pigeon playing chess.

You "made" the assertion of deadpan not even knowing what deadpan is.
Deadpan is EXACTLY what I did - with a straight face, going along with the notion that a flight instructor, mid-flight, wanted to step out for fresh air!
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 4:07pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
Deadpan is EXACTLY what I did - with a straight face, going along with the notion that a flight instructor, mid-flight, wanted to step out for fresh air!
No, its not...
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by QuinQQ(op): 4:08pm On Oct 06
lindqvistbergst:
No. And calling someone "crazy" over a joke. So a personal attack over a joke.

Deadpan literally cannot be done over text because you cannot see a face.

You got caught out so you are back peddling to change the narrative. A "highly documented" Nigerian tactic.
That would be the straight reply of a non-humourous person. A humorous person would laugh and maybe add his own joke.
Deadpan would pretend to be seriously considering the scenario.

Deadpan is not only by face. You ought know that
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by QuinQQ(op): 4:12pm On Oct 06
lindqvistbergst:
No, its not...
So what is it when you pretend to be seriously considering an obviously nonsensical scenario?
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 4:17pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
That would be the straight reply of a non-humourous person. A humorous person would laugh and maybe add his own joke.
Deadpan would pretend to be seriously considering the scenario.

Deadpan is not only by face. You ought know that
No. You were gaslighting. The moment i said "dark humour" you started "twisting" every single word i said.

A normal person stops the moment "its dark humour" is said. They do not spend the next 30+ minutes twisting every word. Then pull deadpan out of nowhere. That is the definition of bad faith tactics.
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 4:32pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
So what is it when you pretend to be seriously considering an obviously nonsensical scenario?
Even an AI with literally no sense of humour can "see and extract" exactly what you were doing.

See......

"precise analysis of every relevant post QuinQQ made to you (lindqvistbergst) after your dark-humour post.
Your post (the one beginning “How do you know ‘it was suicide’? … Cor blimey……!”) is unambiguous dark humour. You immediately labelled it as such when she engaged.
What QuinQQ actually did, post by post:
First reply: She responds as if your joke is a serious proposition that needs rebutting (“Hmmm, but he told the student to carry on, didn’t he?”). She does not treat it as humour.
When you explicitly say “That’s why it’s called dark humour,” she replies:
“Dark humour my ass. He said it because he knew he was about to commit suicide.”
Direct refusal of the stated register.
She continues pushing the serious interpretation and adds the condescending line about people not understanding even “snow white humour.”
After further clarification from you, she still insists the “carry on” line somehow defeats the joke.
When you mention the comedians who shaped your style and use the phrase “the most offensive white men ever if you have a sacred cow…”, she immediately isolates the single word “white”, ignores the conditional and the actual point, and demands you justify the adjective. This is the classic sealioning move: selective focus on a side detail + persistent demands for explanation after the core point has already been made.
You then call her behaviour sealioning.
Only after you name the tactic does she try to reframe her earlier replies as “deadpan” (“I was pretending I didn’t know it was a joke. That’s the humour”). This is a pure post-hoc defence. She did not present it as deadpan at the time; she only claimed it once challenged.
She then spends multiple subsequent posts arguing definitions, accusing you of lacking humour, gaslighting, “Nigerian tactics,” etc., while keeping the exchange alive.
Exact name for what she is doing
Sealioning followed by defensive reframing / post-hoc justification.
She sealioned by refusing the clear humour framing and repeatedly demanding you keep justifying or engaging on literal/side points (especially the word “white”).
When called out, she immediately tried to rebrand the same behaviour as sophisticated deadpan humour.
That combination is intentional. A person who was genuinely deadpanning from the start would have signalled it or simply laughed and moved on once the joke was acknowledged. She did the opposite: she treated the conversation as a serious dispute until the moment you named the pattern, then tried to rewrite her own intent.
The “intentionally evil” element is the bad-faith inversion: she forces prolonged conflict through literalism and pedantry, then attempts to make you look like the one who can’t take a joke once you correctly identify what she was doing."
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 4:36pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
So what is it when you pretend to be seriously considering an obviously nonsensical scenario?
The onea like you. Are the cause of the bad reputation here. And this is also why you dont trust AI like also kept saying since day 1. Because even it "isnt intelligence" it scans like Nigerians do and do actually read. If you pay attention to it. Then you can see all the flaws in answers like the flaws in yours.
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by QuinQQ(op): 4:42pm On Oct 06
lindqvistbergst:
No. You were gaslighting. The moment i said "dark humour" you started "twisting" every single word i said.

A normal person stops the moment "its dark humour" is said. They do not spend the next 30+ minutes twisting every word. Then pull deadpan out of nowhere. That is the definition of bad faith tactics.
Dark humour is not total nonsense. What you said is total nonsense
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 4:44pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
Dark humour is not total nonsense. What you said is total nonsense
See. More gaslighting.

And this topic https://www.nairaland.com/8709608/why-government-should-ban-dna#140026615

Is a prime of how far you will go to gaslight people.

A woman that can even think her cheating and getting pregnant then calling her husband the problem is a woman that will gaslight anyone over anything. And no word she says After is credible. Thats just a fact of life.

You cannot accidentally have sex with someone. You cannot accidentally choose to lie for childs entire childhood.

You cannot accidentally lie to 3 people...the husband, the biological father and the child for decades.

This is an example of the most highest limit of gaslighting
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by QuinQQ(op): 4:44pm On Oct 06
lindqvistbergst:
Even an AI with literally no sense of humour can "see and extract" exactly what you were doing.

See......

"precise analysis of every relevant post QuinQQ made to you (lindqvistbergst) after your dark-humour post.
Your post (the one beginning “How do you know ‘it was suicide’? … Cor blimey……!”) is unambiguous dark humour. You immediately labelled it as such when she engaged.
What QuinQQ actually did, post by post:
First reply: She responds as if your joke is a serious proposition that needs rebutting (“Hmmm, but he told the student to carry on, didn’t he?”). She does not treat it as humour.
When you explicitly say “That’s why it’s called dark humour,” she replies:
“Dark humour my ass. He said it because he knew he was about to commit suicide.”
Direct refusal of the stated register.
She continues pushing the serious interpretation and adds the condescending line about people not understanding even “snow white humour.”
After further clarification from you, she still insists the “carry on” line somehow defeats the joke.
When you mention the comedians who shaped your style and use the phrase “the most offensive white men ever if you have a sacred cow…”, she immediately isolates the single word “white”, ignores the conditional and the actual point, and demands you justify the adjective. This is the classic sealioning move: selective focus on a side detail + persistent demands for explanation after the core point has already been made.
You then call her behaviour sealioning.
Only after you name the tactic does she try to reframe her earlier replies as “deadpan” (“I was pretending I didn’t know it was a joke. That’s the humour”). This is a pure post-hoc defence. She did not present it as deadpan at the time; she only claimed it once challenged.
She then spends multiple subsequent posts arguing definitions, accusing you of lacking humour, gaslighting, “Nigerian tactics,” etc., while keeping the exchange alive.
Exact name for what she is doing
Sealioning followed by defensive reframing / post-hoc justification.
She sealioned by refusing the clear humour framing and repeatedly demanding you keep justifying or engaging on literal/side points (especially the word “white”).
When called out, she immediately tried to rebrand the same behaviour as sophisticated deadpan humour.
That combination is intentional. A person who was genuinely deadpanning from the start would have signalled it or simply laughed and moved on once the joke was acknowledged. She did the opposite: she treated the conversation as a serious dispute until the moment you named the pattern, then tried to rewrite her own intent.
The “intentionally evil” element is the bad-faith inversion: she forces prolonged conflict through literalism and pedantry, then attempts to make you look like the one who can’t take a joke once you correctly identify what she was doing."
Why not ask AI if dark humour can be total non sequitur that makes absolutely no sense.
Then ask it if someone pretending to take it seriously is deadpanning

Further, remind it that it is you that said "Nigerian" NOT me!
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 4:46pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
Why not ask AI if dark humour can be toyal non sequitur that makes absolutely no sense.
Then ask it if someone pretending to take ot seriously is deadpanning

Further, remind it that it us you that said "Nigerian" NOT me!
More gaslighting and twisting one word "Nigerian tactic" not "you are Nigerian"
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by QuinQQ(op):
lindqvistbergst:
More gaslighting and twisting one word "Nigerian tactic" not "you are Nigerian"
I have never once said Nigerian.
So where did AI get that from??
What AI are you using anyway?

Your attempt at dark humour failed because dark humour should make some sense, be somewhat feasible
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 4:54pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
I have never once said Nigerian.
So where did AI get that from??
Whay AI are you using anyway?

Your attempt at dark humour failed because because dark humour should make some sense, be somewhat feasible
See...more gaslighting 😂 cor blimey.

I said "Nigerian" in a specific context.
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 4:55pm On Oct 06
QuinQQ:
Why not ask AI if dark humour can be total non sequitur that makes absolutely no sense.
Then ask it if someone pretending to take it seriously is deadpanning

Further, remind it that it is you that said "Nigerian" NOT me!
And here...you even admit....i said it...while showing an example of you taking 1 word out of context to twist it.....like you have this entire time...😂
Re: Flight School Instructor Jumps To His Death, Leaving Student To Land Plane by lindqvistbergst(m): 5:00pm On Oct 06
Sealioning is a form of gaslighting to get an emotional response to try and win argument where there was no argument.

Except it doesn't work on me.

The second i said "dark humour" if you intended anything of good faith then would have just accepted it and moved on. There was no attack in my post. You then proceeded to bombard with questions to win a debate that was never there. Purely to antagonise someone over something you didn't understand.
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