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Roycemadeit:
Your Bible describes Israelites as terrorists, carrying out organized violence against other populations, acting on God's command.

Joshua 6:20-21 describes the destruction of Jericho, including “men and women, young and old.”

The folks who were murdered, raped, killed while living in their own land, would call the invaders loving people abi?

How do you people think for God's sake?

Why not use your inner sense to judge matters?

Back then the only way people claim lands is through war and invading the inhabitants of any place but instead of the Bible God to do that He allowed His worshipers to be enslaved in the land of Egypt for over 400 years so that they become helpless, in fact the Egyptians were killing males born to Israelites with the intention of reducing male fighters perhaps they could think of revolt. Now the God of Abraham didn't send Moses to go and deliver His people from Egypt during his youthful vigor but allowed Moses to become an octogenarian with his elder brother before saying
"go and deliver my people in Egypt"
Now judge for yourself.

If you hear today that the smallest state in the US decided to leave and to come and occupy a space here in Africa the size of Algeria what would you say?

"Impossible" not so?

But now imagine the US with all their military intelligence refused to let this small population leave and it turned to war between the US and the small population until the US government surrendered and say "please you can go now" after destroying almost half of the US please which country in Africa will say they wouldn't allow such people to occupy the land they choose?

You people just read the Bible without thinking deep!

Ọmọ back then God used the same logic people use to occupy land but due to His mercy He sent a warning message to all the inhabitants of Canaan that He is the Almighty God and He is coming with the Israelites when the people themselves knew that that is the same way they do occupy lands taking it by force but now they decided to wait and fight against a people whose God singlehandedly defeated Egypt the world power back then without a military force!

Ọmọ judge for yourself nah!🤔

Even when the Israelites got to Canaan the most powerful tribe in Canaan didn't think of fighting the Israelites but surrendered humbly saying they will serve both the Israelites and this wonderful God!

So if those who are not strong like the Gibeonites decides to fight the most powerful nation who are coming with the most powerful God over the land that Abraham has paid for ọmọ who is at fault?🤔

MaxInDHouse:
How do you people think for God's sake?

Why not use your inner sense to judge matters?

Back then the only way people claim lands is through war and invading the inhabitants of any place but instead of the Bible God to do that He allowed His worshipers to be enslaved in the land of Egypt for over 400 years so that they become helpless, in fact the Egyptians were killing males born to Israelites with the intention of reducing male fighters perhaps they could think of revolt. Now the God of Abraham didn't send Moses to go and deliver His people from Egypt during his youthful vigor but allowed Moses to become an octogenarian with his elder brother before saying
"go and deliver my people in Egypt"
Now judge for yourself.

If you hear today that the smallest state in the US decided to leave and to come and occupy a space here in Africa the size of Algeria what would you say?

"Impossible" not so?

But now imagine the US with all their military intelligence refused to let this small population leave and it turned to war between the US and the small population until the US government surrendered and say "please you can go now" after destroying almost half of the US please which country in Africa will say they wouldn't allow such people to occupy the land they choose?

You people just read the Bible without thinking deep!

Ọmọ back then God used the same logic people use to occupy land but due to His mercy He sent a warning message to all the inhabitants of Canaan that He is the Almighty God and He is coming with the Israelites when the people themselves knew that that is the same way they do occupy lands taking it by force but now they decided to wait and fight against a people whose God singlehandedly defeated Egypt the world power back then without a military force!

Ọmọ judge for yourself nah!🤔

Even when the Israelites got to Canaan the most powerful tribe in Canaan didn't think of fighting the Israelites but surrendered humbly saying they will serve both the Israelites and this wonderful God!

So if those who are not strong like the Gibeonites decides to fight the most powerful nation who are coming with the most powerful God over the land that Abraham has paid for ọmọ who is at fault?🤔

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According to Exodus 1:5, the people who went down to Egypt with Jacob were seventy. Yet centuries later, you're saying their descendants could simply return and claim a massive expanse of land already occupied by Canaanites, Hittites, Jebusites, Perizzites, Hivites and others.

Abraham's purchase of a burial field does not give his descendants ownership of an entire populated territory. Were these nations that they destroyed ever shown the deed of ownership for the land they occupied? Genesis 23 records him purchasing the field and cave of Machpelah. I mean, how large could a burial site have been to justify nations being displaced, when Abraham's entire population at the time was no more than a clan?



And your claim that God warned the Canaanites is not true... Where exactly did God warn the Canaanites?

By the way, Your fallacious belief doesn't justify the moral problem.

Also highlight Where the Bible say every man, woman, child and infant in those populations personally committed an offense deserving death?

You keep asking me to “think deeper,” but thinking deeper is precisely what I'm doing. If God is judging individuals, why is an infant included in the judgment for what adults supposedly did?

And the same problem exists in Egypt. Pharaoh made the decision to oppress Israel. Yet Exodus 12:29 says the LORD struck the firstborn throughout Egypt. What decision did the Egyptian firstborn make?

If Pharaoh was guilty, punish Pharaoh. Why punish a newborn for Pharaoh's decision?

A criminal may become dangerous as he grows, but we don't execute a baby because we predict what that baby might eventually become.

You said, “Why wait until a snake bites?” Exactly. Why punish a human child for something the child has not done? A child is not a snake acting purely on instinct. Human behavior is shaped by upbringing, culture, education, and society. So why judge a child for a future they have not yet chosen?

Roycemadeit:
Where exactly did God warn the Canaanites?

So how come the Gibeonites in the same territory choose to make peace with the Israelites?

Note that the Gibeonites only heard what this God did to the Egyptians they live in the same place but wisely went to make peace with the people whose God is the Almighty. They said:

“Your servants have come from a very distant land out of regard for the name of Jehovah your God, because we have heard about his fame and about all he did in Egypt" Joshua 9:9

So stop deceiving yourself this people live in the same territory but got the warning message unlike those who expected God to open the cloud and speak to them!🙂

Roycemadeit:
You said, “Why wait until a snake bites?” Exactly. Why punish a human child for something the child has not done? A child is not a snake acting purely on instinct. Human behavior is shaped by upbringing, culture, education, and society. So why judge a child for a future they have not yet chosen?

Exactly my point!

Since they've been prevented from being shaped just as the snake purely act on instinct they will surely grow up to become the same as their parents.

That is why this God commanded the Israelites to make sure that their children are taught His laws from infancy {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} that makes such children different from those born elsewhere but then if such children now choose to do things that's against what they have learned then they deserve death whereas those who don't know such rules can continue existing wherever they are as long as they don't have issues with the true God or His worshipers! 🙂