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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:42pm On Oct 08
GloriousGbola:
the problem with AI is that it often it is only as good as teh person post9ing it

white is navy officer uniform
the other shoud be an army lieutenant

black uniform is just copy pasted

you do not 'join' the military officer corps

you enter nda and you are a cadet until you graduate, not an officer
I get ur point, but u are overthinking the whole thing. The point the creator was just trying to make is u can join any of the military or paramilitary with SSCE but u can't "join" NYSC with SSCE.

He wasn't thinking about all those technicalities of differentiating between commissioned military officers and the non commissioned ones
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 4:46pm On Oct 08
GloriousGbola:
also means the true story may not be as cut and dried as everyone is making it out to be.
as far as i can tell, the kidnappers did not even have time to release videos of their victims suffering which they normally do to drive up the price.
If you ask me, this particular kidnapping looks like local kidnap done by criminals operating in that area. It doesn't look like the previous ones . The way they reduced the ransom drastically and quickly negotiated with families of the victims was totally different from the pattern of mass kidnaps that has happened this year and last year.

I have a feeling if the security agents put in serious efforts, they can nab these guys. I won't be surprised if they turn out not to be the regular Fulani herdsmen
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 4:47pm On Oct 08
BlueRayDick:
Okay look at it this way: The parents are obviously poor and cannot afford flight ticket to and fro. I don't know about other airlines but as at August, a two way ticket on value jet for Lagos-PHC route costs about N368k

The parents obviously have poor or even poorer relatives. Now imagine if they approach their relatives to ask them to raise over 300k as flight ticket because their son or daughter is going for NYSC. Do you think any of them will come through for them. The means is not there like you are thinking.

They only squeezed out money out now because everyone fears the kidnappers may actually harm them.
I hear you, but it's still penny wise pound foolish. NYSC should be treated as a one-off life event which budget provision should be made for like a wedding or funeral. The speed of the ransom payment in less than one week shows money dey with proper planning. The kidnappers were calling N950m for 20 students initially, and in less than one week, the matter is done and dusted. Let's even say they reduced it to N5m per child, that payment was too quick. You will usually spend the first 3 days pricing with the kidnappers, then another couple weeks to raise the money but these guys done finish the whole matter in few days.

As example, when my cousin was traveling to Osun, she was going by bus. I quickly called her and her father and saw that it's just complacency setting in. This is around that Owo massacre time. Within few minutes, we have arranged contributions for her to travel by air, and the agreement is that she should stay there throughout NYSC until we book return flight than risk coming back and forth by road. As a child in her early 20s whose brain cannot comprehend entering plane or spending few hundred k on it, it's up to those with means within the family to guide, before ransom bill of millions drop. And it's up to her father to know the importance of accessing such funds for safety than to bring a bigger ransom bill later
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Roland17(m):
BlueRayDick:
All you've said is very true, but I won't rule out the fact that some teachers actually don't know how to teach.

In my secondary school we had different teachers at different times who took us some subjects and made most students dislike those subjects because of how terrible they were at teaching. I attended a government secondary school where all our teachers are civil servants, most of whom do the barest minimum to impart knowledge. I guess some of them were just university graduates who got teaching jobs out of necessity for self-preservation and not because they studied education-based courses nor have passion for teaching.

Some of the subjects they made me dislike from SS1 to SS2; by the time I attended an external tutorial for 6 months in SS2, I wrote GCE and cleared all my papers while doing B3,B2 in two of such subjects. The difference was the teachers and the their teaching methods in that external tutorial.

In the University too, I know a couple of lecturers who are actually very terrible educators. I believe those ones were just brilliant students who made good grades during their bachelor's degree, had PhD grade in their Masters and proceeded to obtain their PhD. They are people whom you will read their journal articles and commend their scholarly work, but when they teach in class they suck!
The professional aspect of teaching in Nigeria is quite poor, I have to admit. I had similar experiences while I was growing and learning, particularly in secondary school. I really worry that we don't have actual professional teachers who have gone through the rigors of becoming educators from tertiary institutions teach our children, especially in primary and secondary settings. Like you rightly alluded to, most of the teachers at the basic level are usually university graduates who are not equipped to be actual educators because teaching transcends being in the classroom. How many of our primary and secondary schools actually employ graduates from our Federal and State colleges of Education? I mean over 80% of NYSC corpers are deployed to primary and secondary schools, even those with 3rd class and Pass (No disrespect to anyone).

We really need to get our basic education right and it starts with employing the right educators who have been trained specifically for the purpose of being career teachers in the field of academia. You'd notice I am focusing primarily on basic education versus post-secondary because if we get it right in this setting, post-secondary would be easier for students. Also, it is the same problem in post-secondary settings, where to your point, people get lecturing job without the requisite training needed to actually be a professional teacher. People use connections to get lecturer slots and are have absolutely no idea what it means to lecture. For avoidance of doubt, not all post-graduate students or degrees should teach. If your Ph.D. doesn't include courses in college teaching, including practicum hours then the student has no business becoming an instructor.

We are just winging several sectors of our economy and we
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 4:57pm On Oct 08
Ibime:
I hear you, but it's still penny wise pound foolish. NYSC should be treated as a one-off life event which budget provision should be made for like a wedding or funeral. The speed of the ransom payment in less than one week shows money dey with proper planning. The kidnappers were calling N950m for 20 students initially, and in less than one week, the matter is done and dusted. Let's even say they reduced it to N5m per child, that payment was too quick. You will usually spend the first 3 days pricing with the kidnappers, then another couple weeks to raise the money but these guys done finish the whole matter in few days.

As example, when my cousin was traveling to Osun, she was going by bus. I quickly called her and her father and saw that it's just complacency setting in. This is around that Owo massacre time. Within few minutes, we have arranged contributions for her to travel by air, and the agreement is that she should stay there throughout NYSC until we book return flight than risk coming back and forth by road. As a child in her early 20s whose brain cannot comprehend entering plane or spending few hundred k on it, it's up to those with means within the family to guide, before ransom bill of millions drop. And it's up to her father to know the importance of accessing such funds for safety than to bring a bigger ransom bill later
you are talking from a place of privilege chief

we all know what to do - but when disposable income no dey, you take your chances. a large number of nigerians are being dragged from every limb by financial issues. i have a guy working for me who just went off to camp in niger state, guys dad is deceased. mother retired. guy is carrying family as much as he can. who is going to get him a plane ticket to abuja?

the way you face risk as a reasonable person is largely based on your liquidity not your common sense - which often requires cash to back it up.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:02pm On Oct 08
Ibime:
I hear you, but it's still penny wise pound foolish. NYSC should be treated as a one-off life event which budget provision should be made for like a wedding or funeral. The speed of the ransom payment in less than one week shows money dey with proper planning. The kidnappers were calling N950m for 20 students initially, and in less than one week, the matter is done and dusted. Let's even say they reduced it to N5m per child, that payment was too quick. You will usually spend the first 3 days pricing with the kidnappers, then another couple weeks to raise the money but these guys done finish the whole matter in few days.

As example, when my cousin was traveling to Osun, she was going by bus. I quickly called her and her father and saw that it's just complacency setting in. This is around that Owo massacre time. Within few minutes, we have arranged contributions for her to travel by air, and the agreement is that she should stay there throughout NYSC until we book return flight than risk coming back and forth by road. As a child in her early 20s whose brain cannot comprehend entering plane or spending few hundred k on it, it's up to those with means within the family to guide, before ransom bill of millions drop. And it's up to her father to know the importance of accessing such funds for safety than to bring a bigger ransom bill later
You just made my point for me with this your example. You were able to advise the girl's father and back up advise with money because you are financially stable.

I have seen two different videos of the parents being interviewed and from their environment you can tell they are not financially stable enough to afford the air travel you are suggesting. As a Nigerian living in Nigeria, I can tell you for free that not many family members will bring money out of their pocket to contribute for your child to fly to NYSC. They will tell you even their own child enter bus go Kano from Ibadan, why your own daughter Wan enter plane go Imo? 😂

If I had a younger who wants to go for NYSC, I would also try as much as possible to ensure he doesn't travel by road if the state he's going to has a working airport.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola:
BlueRayDick:
I get ur point, but u are overthinking the whole thing. The point the creator was just trying to make is u can join any of the military or paramilitary with SSCE but u can't "join" NYSC with SSCE.

He wasn't thinking about all those technicalities of differentiating between commissioned military officers and the non commissioned ones
i can tell you rabazamba will be very very very angry at being equated with a recruit cheesy
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 5:02pm On Oct 08
GloriousGbola:
you are talking from a place of privilege chief

we all know what to do - but when disposable income no dey, you take your chances. a large number of nigerians are being dragged from every limb by financial issues. i have a guy working for me who just went off to camp in niger state, guys dad is deceased. mother retired. guy is carrying family as much as he can. who is going to get him a plane ticket to abuja?

the way you face risk as a reasonable person is largely based on your liquidity not your common sense - which often requires cash to back it up.
Right now, you can almost guarantee that the number you called for plane ticket is less than first semester cost of sending pikin to uni.

The same energy used to raise funds to send that child to uni should be the same energy used to raise fund to send them for youth service.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 5:06pm On Oct 08
Ibime:
Right now, you can almost guarantee that the number you called for plane ticket is less than first semester cost of sending pikin to uni.

The same energy used to raise funds to send that child to uni should be the same energy used to raise fund to send them for youth service.
like i said, you are assuming liquidity that is not there.

also, bluray has explained it further. people who can assist will assist for school fees, but outside of that they will tell you to cut your coat to your size, esp if they are also managing on their own part

hostel has grade, transport also has grade.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:10pm On Oct 08
Roland17:
The professional aspect of teaching in Nigeria is quite poor, particularly after secondary school, I have to admit. I had similar experiences while I was growing and learning, particularly in secondary school. I really worry that we don't have actual professional teachers who have gone through the rigors of becoming educators from tertiary institutions teach our children, especially in primary and secondary settings. Like you rightly alluded to, most of the teachers at the basic level are usually university graduates who are not equipped to be actual educators because teaching transcends being in the classroom. How many of our primary and secondary schools actually employ graduates from our Federal and State colleges of Education? I mean over 80% of NYSC corpers are deployed to primary and secondary schools, even those with 3rd class and Pass (No disrespect to anyone).

We really need to get our basic education right and it starts with employing the right educators who have been trained specifically for the purpose of being career teachers in the field of academia. You'd notice I am focusing primarily on basic education versus post-secondary because if we get it right in this setting, post-secondary would be easier for students. Also, it is the same problem in post-secondary settings, where to your point, people get lecturing job without the requisite training needed to actually be a professional teacher. People use connections to get lecturer slots and are have absolutely no idea what it means to lecture. For avoidance of doubt, not all post-graduate students or degrees should teach. If your Ph.D. doesn't include courses in college teaching, including practicum hours then the student has no business becoming an instructor.

We are just winging several sectors of our economy and we
Well, I think some states are now trying to set things right.

I learnt Lagos state ministry has insisted on recruiting only graduates with Degrees in educational courses for both state owned primary and secondary schools. If you have a degree in a non education focused course, then you must have PGD education for you to be considered for employment. In their last two recruitment exercise, they insisted on this. I commend them for that.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 5:20pm On Oct 08
BlueRayDick:
Well, I think some states are now trying to set things right.

I learnt Lagos state ministry has insisted on recruiting only graduates with Degrees in educational courses for both state owned primary and secondary schools. If you have a degree in a non education focused course, then you must have PGD education for you to be considered for employment. In their last two recruitment exercise, they insisted on this. I commend them for that.
a large number of private schools are EXTREMELY exploitative. i know of a dude who basically dropped out in his final year. a law student. that was where he ended up. na so dem dey do. taking people who are 101% desperate with no where to go.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc(m): 5:35pm On Oct 08
Ibime:
Right now, you can almost guarantee that the number you called for plane ticket is less than first semester cost of sending pikin to uni.

The same energy used to raise funds to send that child to uni should be the same energy used to raise fund to send them for youth service.
People that will give you money to ransom your relative or pay school fees, if you call them to ask them for money for plane ticket they will block you on landline, mobile, WhatsApp, and all social media. Hehehe.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:36pm On Oct 08
GloriousGbola:
like i said, you are assuming liquidity that is not there.

also, bluray has explained it further. people who can assist will assist for school fees, but outside of that they will tell you to cut your coat to your size, esp if they are also managing on their own part
Ibime doesn't want to agree he's talking from a place of privilege as a Nepo kid. He doesn't know that even the university some people go sef, na rugged dem rugged finish am. There are students who are always sent out of exam hall because hadn't paid their schoolfees and sitting for first semester exams.

I had a friend in the university, it was his father's tenant benevolence that practically saw him out of school. By the time he entered university, his popsy was already old and was living off the rent he collects from the house he built in the 80's. The man was using the money to keep body and soul together and take care of his younger children. My guy was considered a full grown man and should be able to fend for himself.

My guy was close to one of his father's tenants who were working class couple. He plays with their kids, helps with their assignment and always makes himself available to them when they need help with errands. Na money wey those couple dey always tip him as ọmọ boy my guy used to pay his school fees. How that kind person Wan take fund flight ticket as at that time?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 5:37pm On Oct 08
afrodoc:
People that will give you money to ransom your relative or pay school fees, if you call them to ask them for money for plane ticket they will block you on landline, mobile, WhatsApp, and all social media. Hehehe.
😂😂😂

Dem go first cuss you before blocking you
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 5:39pm On Oct 08
afrodoc:
People that will give you money to ransom your relative or pay school fees, if you call them to ask them for money for plane ticket they will block you on landline, mobile, WhatsApp, and all social media. Hehehe.
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc(m): 5:40pm On Oct 08
BlueRayDick:
😂😂😂

Dem go first cuss you before blocking you
Solid cussing out o. Ibime no know the scores.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 5:41pm On Oct 08
BlueRayDick:
Ibime doesn't want to agree he's talking from a place of privilege as a Nepo kid.
The bolded is a bit #

Afrodoc is this not a punch below the belt?

I made my own privilege, I am not OBO.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shegzdave: 5:43pm On Oct 08
KingTom:
grin grin grin
😂😂
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc(m): 5:44pm On Oct 08
Ibime:
The bolded is a bit #

Afrodoc is this not a punch below the belt?

I made my own privilege, I am not OBO.
Not too far from the truth. Worst na punch on the belt line.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Shegzdave: 5:44pm On Oct 08
iamoyindamola:
They take that thing serious, if your offering is not heavy you won't be known and subject to the back seat same thing with the muslim
The way we practice religion in Naija Dey muse sometimes
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:45pm On Oct 08
Taking a flight is seen by 90% of Nigerians as extreme luxury even if its to Sambisa
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 5:49pm On Oct 08
Ibime:
Right now, you can almost guarantee that the number you called for plane ticket is less than first semester cost of sending pikin to uni.

The same energy used to raise funds to send that child to uni should be the same energy used to raise fund to send them for youth service.
People wey go burst u when u get ish with school fees and many other relatively assumed important things fit never enter plane for thier whole life.


A slight suggestion of flight ticket fit make dem swear for ur head b4 everlasting blocking.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 6:32pm On Oct 08
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Operation Epstein Fury failed woefully

Regime change failed.
Strait of Hormoz closed.
Highly Enriched Iranian uranium still intact.
Iranian Underground Missile Cities still producing ballistic missiles every month.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 7:04pm On Oct 08
Abeg, who uses GTbank etoken?

I don't understand what's happening to my own
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by CrystalTiger(m): 7:06pm On Oct 08
Removed Subsidy on inauguration day thrusting Nigerians into untold hardship..

Few months to election, you're saying you want to give Nigerians 30days discount lol..

Tinubunomics...

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:07pm On Oct 08
Ibime:
The bolded is a bit #

Afrodoc is this not a punch below the belt?

I made my own privilege, I am not OBO.
Ibime has gone full conservative. Self made man who lifted himself by his bootstraps. cheesy

Lazy broke ass naija dwellers who can't manage money will not understand cry

Ibime when people talk about price of plane ticket cheesy

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:36pm On Oct 08
https://www.thecable.ng/just-in-moove-shuts-down-nigeria-operations-transfers-vehicle-ownership-to-customers/


Moove, a global mobility company founded in Lagos, says it will end its operations in Nigeria and transfer ownership of eligible vehicles worth about N35 billion to existing customers.

The company announced the decision in a statement on Thursday, six years after it began operations in Nigeria.

According to Moove, customers receiving the vehicles will own them fully, with no further payment required to the company for the vehicles from October 1, 2026.

Moove said it will also give free cars to all its staff members as a sign of appreciation.
Cc izzou

Damn see as risk paid off. Those guys have gotten those cars free and dry
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 7:46pm On Oct 08
GloriousGbola:
https://www.thecable.ng/just-in-moove-shuts-down-nigeria-operations-transfers-vehicle-ownership-to-customers/




Cc izzou

Damn see as risk paid off. Those guys have gotten those cars free and dry
Moove are the one with those suzuki cars on installment
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:49pm On Oct 08
iamoyindamola:
Moove are the one with those suzuki cars on installment
I know. Those drivers who were assigned the cars got seriously lucky.

This is a much better payout than that nonsense 40k cash payment
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:13pm On Oct 08
Did anyone watch the video of Lai Omotola of Politico NG, concerning Land title scam in Lagos state?

He said they bought a property from the Federal Government in VI

Some guys came later and evicted them from the property, stating that (Late Mr Amusan), bought it from Late Samuel Ige (Bola Ige's brother) in 2015. They brought a Governor's consent that was issued in 2020.

He then decided to investigate, and found out that Samuel Ige died in 2012, and Mr Amusan died in 1994. So how come two dead people transacted in 2015?

The shocking part is that they have a valid governor's consent issued in 2020, and the file is in the system.

Imagine the kind racket going on!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by abduleez1(m): 9:08pm On Oct 08
Another evidence of a useless and failed economy..... undecided

How will a startup that was founded or birthed in Lagos, Nigeria simply pack up its load and go elsewhere? It's not as if the entire business folded. They just went somewhere else.

This is after securing $250mn series C funding two months ago for expansion and achieving a $2.1bn valuation.

Foreign companies leaving no dey too pain me or buzz me, but this....

Omooo, I taya for this country.

Anyways, na the drivers go dey happy from this deal.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 9:20pm On Oct 08
Shegzdave:
The way we practice religion in Naija Dey muse sometimes



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