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Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by mojounited(m):
Mryacks:
Oh good to know...pls can you tell me something about the Mazda Cx-9 & C-7? Are they reliable...what is the major issue if any, of the SUV..
Earlier generations of Mazda CX suffered water pump failures (same as Ford), but this has been fixed from 2022 upward as per customer and expert reviews.

So if you're opting for Mazda CX-9, only purchase from 2022 - later years
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by 3kay945(m): 1:57pm On Oct 17
lezz:
oga Toyota na poor man car and na only poverty mentality go make any body rate Toyota.

* Comfort - average
* Luxury - below average
* Speed- below average
*Manoeuvrability - very poor
*High Speed stability - Poor
* Handling* poor
* Interior -- nauseating
* Exterior -- bland

We understand it's cheap to maintain and reliable but it's not a joy to drive or look at a it's technologically behind
So, majority of Nigerians poor or rich?
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by Nefort: 2:18pm On Oct 17
erico2k2:
That stat was p ut up there by people like you .Ask anyone who lives in the US the position of toyota in everyday car.
I can take a photo of my street and you can see that toyota is like 1 percent of total cars park on my street.the fact that the F1 has no toyota cars in it is an indication of its functionality, guys make more research plzzzzz
Nobody fakes those stats. It was gotten from multiple independent sources.

Once again I am showing you that Toyota leads even in the United States.

Mercedes Benz only has value in Nigeria. But it is considered as shit in overseas.

Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by KINGSODD: 2:18pm On Oct 17
erico2k2:
ahahah you are funy, plz post one post of an American mechanic saying this statement in 2026 plzzz
go on quora and check online polls.
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by erico2k2(m): 2:19pm On Oct 17
Nefort:
Nobody fakes those stats. It was gotten from multiple independent sources.

Once again I am showing you that Toyota leads even in the United States.

Mercedes Benz only has value in Nigeria. But it is considered as shit in overseas.
And I am telling you that that stats was put up by people like you, I live i n the UK,London to be specific, most toyota are taxi,, so I dont know what oversea you are talking about,the o ne behind your village?
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by erico2k2(m): 2:20pm On Oct 17
KINGSODD:
go on quora and check online polls.
Nop you got to back your claims, I made a post about 2024 toyota camry someone said I cant afford a 2020 Camry when infact I drive a 2022 BMW320D I bought brand new.
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by KINGSODD: 3:55pm On Oct 17
erico2k2:
Nop you got to back your claims, I made a post about 2024 toyota camry someone said I cant afford a 2020 Camry when infact I drive a 2022 BMW320D I bought brand new.
i dnt want to post links from polls on quora and other forums because of Ban ...there are several video evidences of US based mechanics picking toyota as the best car brand...but here is a post from A.I

Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by KINGSODD: 4:00pm On Oct 17
erico2k2:
That stat was p ut up there by people like you .Ask anyone who lives in the US the position of toyota in everyday car.
I can take a photo of my street and you can see that toyota is like 1 percent of total cars park on my street.the fact that the F1 has no toyota cars in it is an indication of its functionality, guys make more research plzzzzz
you should narrow down to maybe engine performance and car handling. Then cars like BMW/MERCEDEZ lead the park...Is BMW currently in F1 ?...
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by erico2k2(m): 4:02pm On Oct 17
KINGSODD:
you should narrow down to maybe engine performance and car handling. Then cars like BMW/MERCEDEZ lead the park...Is BMW currently in F1 ?...
Since you asked me if BMW is in the F1 m y friend I can beat my chest to say you know nothing about Auto Mobile. You should stick to subjects that you know about, just imagine if BMW are on the F1 WOW, and you want to talk about cars
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by erico2k2(m): 4:04pm On Oct 17
KINGSODD:
i dnt want to post links from polls on quora and other forums because of Ban ...there are several video evidences of US based mechanics picking toyota as the best car brand...but here is a post from A.I
Oga no one cares in the west about toyota, in Asia and Africa yes but the rest of the world do not rate toyota or any JAP car.As we speak the chinease cars are even giving them a run for thier m oney stop pushing this dead narative.
The resale value of Toyota is High in the West cos of Africa and Asia and folks like you, ask anyone in the US and Europe who buys 2nd Toyota? they are all shipped to Africa and Asia.
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by KINGSODD: 5:05pm On Oct 17
erico2k2:
Since you asked me if BMW is in the F1 m y friend I can beat my chest to say you know nothing about Auto Mobile. You should stick to subjects that you know about, just imagine if BMW are on the F1 WOW, and you want to talk about cars
you dnt know cars...baba..for u to even use F1 as a metric..BMW is currently not in F1... Oya who is the driver for BMWhuh
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by lezz(m):
3kay945:
So, majority of Nigerians poor or rich?
na people like Una dey hype Tecno, infinxi to iPhone and Samsung standard.

Even by African standards Nigerians are poor . You can check it yourself.

Toyota na mass production project for the everyday people. Never for the upper middle class

For you to call it the best when it's not even up to the level of Volkswagen, I suppose comfirm your village.
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by Talismann: 7:12pm On Oct 17
erico2k2:
I actually do not, I drive a Range Rover and a BMW .Why the hell would I drive a Toyota ??When I can drive a BMW 3201?
Bro not everyone is less privileged .On Nairaland I have met people who have 2025 range Rover sport and 2024 Camry as well, and also if you go to the BMW section we have people there who have brand new bimmers, SO speak of what you know.I made a thread on here where I c onverted my 2012 Range rover from RHD to LHD its on here you can look at it and see men there wey get machine
you just answered the initial question by yourself unknowingly.

Sit inside and Park that your so called BMW or Range on the side of a busy road for at least 30minutes and count how many Toyota's speed past you.

Now you may begin to think some of them do not have other brands of cars in their garages?? Not at all, they do. But Toyota is just too reliable as a daily driver while that your BMW cannot be.
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by erico2k2(m): 8:08pm On Oct 17
Talismann:
you just answered the initial question by yourself unknowingly.

Sit inside and Park that your so called BMW or Range on the side of a busy road for at least 30minutes and count how many Toyota's speed past you.

Now you may begin to think some of them do not have other brands of cars in their garages?? Not at all, they do. But Toyota is just too reliable as a daily driver while that your BMW cannot be.
Sk yourself this question, how many of the so called garages have range rovers BMW and Audis parked in them for repairs? its all full of Toyota Nissan and Honda cars, you live in a false world where there are no real indication of the functionalities of cars.The above cars are rigid and hardly brake dwn, if I ask you now name one component in a BMW you think rapture quicker than that of any Toyota you wont be able to metion one
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by erico2k2(m): 8:09pm On Oct 17
lezz:
na people like Una dry hype Tecno, infinxi to iPhone and Samsung standard.

Even by African standards Nigeria is poor . You can check it yourself.

Toyota na mass production project for the everyday people.

For you to call it the best when Otis not even up to the level of Volkswagen, I suppose comfirm your village
Well said,howmany people buy 15 year old Toyota in the west? if not for Africa toyota will be scrapp
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by erico2k2(m): 8:18pm On Oct 17
KINGSODD:
you dnt know cars...baba..for u to even use F1 as a metric..BMW is currently not in F1... Oya who is the driver for BMWhuh
Let me make you look silly a bit,it was a trap and you fell in cos all you lot know is how to goggle, some of us do have the privilege of actually watch F1 life.

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BMW’s Formula 1 history spans early 1950s entries, a championship‑winning turbo era with Brabham in 1983, a successful engine partnership with Williams from 2000–2005, and finally the full works BMW Sauber F1 Team from 2006–2009, which achieved one Grand Prix victory at the 2008 Canadian GP.
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BMW have announced their verdict on a potential return to Formula 1 following a press conference.

The German car giants haven't been in F1 since making a shock exit at the end of the 2009 season, having become a full team at the start of the 2006 after taking over Sauber.

Before that BMW provided the Williams teams with engines from 2000-2005, boasting one of the best power units on the grid during the era despite failing to win a world championship in the 21st century.
source https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/1079629/f1-bmw-return-2026-wec-frank-van-meel/
Vettel during F1 debut with BMW Sauber — Photo: © IMAGOPhoto: © IMAGO
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BMW have announced their verdict on a potential return to Formula 1 following a press conference.

The German car giants haven't been in F1 since making a shock exit at the end of the 2009 season, having become a full team at the start of the 2006 after taking over Sauber.


Before that BMW provided the Williams teams with engines from 2000-2005, boasting one of the best power units on the grid during the era despite failing to win a world championship in the 21st century.

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BMW engines helped Nelson Piquet win the world championship with Brabham in 1983, while Benetton, ATS and Arrows in the main were also supplied engines during the period BMW competed in F1 between 1982 and 1987.
BMW rivals entered after their exit
Since their exit, BMW's national rivals Mercedes (2010) and Audi (2026) have entered the sport, with the former dominating much of the 2010s winning 15 world championships between 2014 and 2021 and the latter taking over the Sauber team, like BMW did.
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by Nefort: 8:58pm On Oct 17
erico2k2:
And I am telling you that that stats was put up by people like you, I live i n the UK,London to be specific, most toyota are taxi,, so I dont know what oversea you are talking about,the o ne behind your village?
I don't understand what you mean by saying people like me put up the stats. Many people confirmed Toyota is way reliable than a Mercedes. So how else do we get a reliable stat apart from getting opinion from many people?

Toyota being a taxi means absolutely nothing and doesn't change the fact that it is a very reliable car and way ahead of Mercedes Benz. They can't use Mercedes Benz as a taxi because it wouldn't withstand the heavy use as a taxi.
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by erico2k2(m): 9:02pm On Oct 17
Talismann:
it's too rugged and can take a beating without crying.

Moreso, Nigerian owners love to abuse their vehicles and the Toyota brand gladly accepts all manner of abuse so it's loved very much.

Toyota makes everything very basic without over engineering so the knowledge curve to aspiring auto mechanics is not too steep.

Good luck spending 5 hard years learning how to fix range Rovers in Nigeria
Oga my Range rover came into Nigeria 2018 for conversion Mrs Rav 4 has gone to the workshop far more times than the range rover, I have never changed a Hub on the range rover we have changed hub up to 4 times on the rav4.We have a sienna too, same issues. My coolant in the range rover has never been short, cant say same for the two toyota cars.I can park the \Range for up to 6 months and when start it come to life one time cant say thesame for the toyota cars.
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by erico2k2(m): 9:05pm On Oct 17
Nefort:
Toyota being a taxi means absolutely nothing and doesn't change the fact that it is a very reliable car and way ahead of Mercedes Benz. They can't use Mercedes Benz as a taxi because it wouldn't withstand the heavy use as a taxi.
Come to London and see Mercedes as Taxi and Uber, however they are for executive taxiing, one nah taxi one nah Cab lol
The Engine of a Mercedes is far more stronger than that of any Toyota, the alloys used in it out dates that of Toyota, Toyota is mass produced.
Reliable stat is by measuring the functionality of components ie, ordinary head light, Radiators, AC,Exhust,seats,dashboard
Engines, Gear box axles and Body work,leather,door knobs, Technology etc
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by KINGSODD: 10:23pm On Oct 17
erico2k2:
Let me make you look silly a bit,it was a trap and you fell in cos all you lot know is how to goggle, some of us do have the privilege of actually watch F1 life.

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BMW’s Formula 1 history spans early 1950s entries, a championship‑winning turbo era with Brabham in 1983, a successful engine partnership with Williams from 2000–2005, and finally the full works BMW Sauber F1 Team from 2006–2009, which achieved one Grand Prix victory at the 2008 Canadian GP.
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BMW make decision on F1 return
BMW's rivals Mercedes and Audi compete in Formula 1

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Monday, March 23, 2026 at 10:54 AM
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BMW have announced their verdict on a potential return to Formula 1 following a press conference.

The German car giants haven't been in F1 since making a shock exit at the end of the 2009 season, having become a full team at the start of the 2006 after taking over Sauber.

Before that BMW provided the Williams teams with engines from 2000-2005, boasting one of the best power units on the grid during the era despite failing to win a world championship in the 21st century.
source https://www.gpfans.com/en/f1-news/1079629/f1-bmw-return-2026-wec-frank-van-meel/
Vettel during F1 debut with BMW Sauber — Photo: © IMAGOPhoto: © IMAGO
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F1 News & Gossip
BMW make decision on F1 return
BMW's rivals Mercedes and Audi compete in Formula 1

Dan Ripley
Dan Ripley Global Editor
Professional F1 journalist and analyst
Monday, March 23, 2026 at 10:54 AM
Google
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BMW have announced their verdict on a potential return to Formula 1 following a press conference.

The German car giants haven't been in F1 since making a shock exit at the end of the 2009 season, having become a full team at the start of the 2006 after taking over Sauber.


Before that BMW provided the Williams teams with engines from 2000-2005, boasting one of the best power units on the grid during the era despite failing to win a world championship in the 21st century.

Article continues under video
Fluid logo

BMW engines helped Nelson Piquet win the world championship with Brabham in 1983, while Benetton, ATS and Arrows in the main were also supplied engines during the period BMW competed in F1 between 1982 and 1987.
BMW rivals entered after their exit
Since their exit, BMW's national rivals Mercedes (2010) and Audi (2026) have entered the sport, with the former dominating much of the 2010s winning 15 world championships between 2014 and 2021 and the latter taking over the Sauber team, like BMW did.
funny guy ...u just dey here dey blab..i asked if BMW is currently in F1 and you re talking about ancient times.
But you mentioned that toyota has no car in F1, You actually meant 2026 F1.....so go back and ask Copilot if toyota has also taken part in F1 before...
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by erico2k2(m): 10:40pm On Oct 17
KINGSODD:
funny guy ...u just dey here dey blab..i asked if BMW is currently in F1 and you re talking about ancient times.
But you mentioned that toyota has no car in F1, You actually meant 2026 F1.....so go back and ask Copilot if toyota has also taken part in F1 before...
Look at you trying to twist the Narrative, name one Engine built by Toyota ever in the F1 since it began, If you read the post you will see BMW Engines in F1 team cars, you can see the stopped competing in F1 just 2009 via its proxy for whom they build Engines for and are now going back b4 the end of this year as announced. YOu know Nigerians you got to put a link for them to read if not argument dead
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by femi4: 12:19am On Oct 18
StevenMarley:
When it comes to reliability, does any car brand truly beat Toyota?
Poor man mentality

Hsve you driven a mercedez before
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by KINGSODD: 8:05am On Oct 18
erico2k2:
Look at you trying to twist the Narrative, name one Engine built by Toyota ever in the F1 since it began, If you read the post you will see BMW Engines in F1 team cars, you can see the stopped competing in F1 just 2009 via its proxy for whom they build Engines for and are now going back b4 the end of this year as announced. YOu know Nigerians you got to put a link for them to read if not argument dead
lol...No worry to argue with you..u keep twisting your statement....the whole argument here is about the best car in general...I stated in one reply that unless you narrow the argument down to the engine performance and car handling which i know very well toyota isnt in that bracket of best engine performance...You also brought in F1, From your F1 statement, you were suggesting Toyota has never fielded its own team in F1 not just supplied engines or parts as a partner, like BMW did with Sauber & WILLIAMS.... And do you know toyota supplied Engines to F1 cars in the 80s before they even had their own teamhuh...Ever heard of Toyota Gazoo? Do you know they are currently in a technical partnership with HAAS F1 team even though they dont supply haas with an engine, but haas gets technical support from toyota Gazoo. So from your statement toyota is currently in F1. Which i dont think BMW is currently supplying any F1 car engine or technical support.
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by erico2k2(m): 8:27am On Oct 18
KINGSODD:
lol...No worry to argue with you..u keep twisting your statement....the whole argument here is about the best car in general...I stated in one reply that unless you narrow the argument down to the engine performance and car handling which i know very well toyota isnt in that bracket of best engine performance...You also brought in F1, From your F1 statement, you were suggesting Toyota has never fielded its own team in F1 not just supplied engines or parts as a partner, like BMW did with Sauber & WILLIAMS.... And do you know toyota supplied Engines to F1 cars in the 80s before they even had their own teamhuh...Ever heard of Toyota Gazoo? Do you know they are currently in a technical partnership with HAAS F1 team even though they dont supply haas with an engine, but haas gets technical support from toyota Gazoo. So from your statement toyota is currently in F1. Which i dont think BMW is currently supplying any F1 car engine or technical support.
Let me put this your argument to rest,
Look The Bicycle and the motor cycle ride on same road.btw the bysicle and the motor cycle which do you think will last longer?
We know the push bike will, so does it mean the push bike is more reliable than the motor cycle?
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by erico2k2(m): 8:28am On Oct 18
femi4:
Poor man mentality

Hsve you driven a mercedez before
Him drive am 4 dream grin grin
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by StevenMarley(op): 9:02pm On Oct 18
Which cave this one comot from? I only asked a question Oga

femi4:
Poor man mentality

Hsve you driven a mercedez before
Re: Does Any Car Brand Truly Beat Toyota? by femi4: 10:46pm On Oct 18
StevenMarley:
Which cave this one comot from? I only asked a question Oga
A typical poor man's reaction
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