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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 6:09am On Oct 18
Theuniverse:
I no even understand again sef,I came here to read strong epl,european football arguments.
Instead na politics, accident,criminals and flying car I day see, this thread na for flying car abi na for epl discussions
, abeg change the name if na general thread.
Before I go. up chelsea ktbffh.
Maybe you should go back to page 1 and read the first post on this thread .

Even the owner of Nairaland and his mods dey come to read the discussions(sometimes they join in the discussion sef ) and dem no dey complain .

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 6:42am On Oct 18
Ballzproblemm:
Mind you use was doing it earlier this year saudi bombed the airstrip they(use) built in yemen ,now saudi is backing them .

Incompetence choke the Arab goyims.
The blame lie with America/Trump.
Why because;

1) USA is the chief security guarantor of the Gulf Arab countries.
2) America have up to 20 military bases in Middle East Region for their protection in exchange for selling their oil in dollar only. Majority of the base are either eradicated by Iranian ballistic missiles/attack drones or heavenly damaged to the extent that they become very useless to US military logistics.

3) when the runways & hangers are damaged or destroyed, there's no way for cargo aircraft or fighter jets to land or take off, no safe place to park your military aircraft too.

4) Under US law, Israel has what they call (QME) Qualitative Military Edge when it comes to their Middle East Regional neighbors. This means that the US government cannot sell lethal weaponry that threaten Israeli security.
In that region,
it is only Israel that have nuclear weapon.
Only Israel have operational advanced 5th generation US fighter jets.

Blame Trump and America, the Arabs have been outsourcing their security and protection to Washington & it gave them prosperity and peace until Trump decided to impose a war of aggression against Tehran.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 7:30am On Oct 18
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 8:18am On Oct 18
Ebukacute:
As you don bobo yourself finish with your usual yeye talk, he just declared above that he's a Tinubu supporter which clearly shows that you are the troll here and not me or anybody else who thinks that he is a Tinubu supporter.
grin grin grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 8:37am On Oct 18
Ebukacute:
As you don bobo yourself finish with your usual yeye talk, he just declared above that he's a Tinubu supporter which clearly shows that you are the troll here and not me or anybody else who thinks that he is a Tinubu supporter.
You get time sha grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 9:20am On Oct 18
Ebukacute:
[s]
As you don bobo yourself finish with your usual yeye talk, he just declared above that he's a Tinubu supporter which clearly shows that you are the troll here and not me or anybody else who thinks that he is a Tinubu supporter. [/s]
I didn't read this, bro.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ebukacute(m): 9:40am On Oct 18
GrammarNazi1:
I didn't read this, bro.
Of course , shame won't let you. Defender Danny Shitu
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 9:47am On Oct 18
Ebukacute:
[s]Of course , shame won't let you. Defender Danny Shitu[/s]
Spam.

I didn't read this, too.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:29am On Oct 18
I still don’t understand the logic behind Public servants and government appointees blocking citizens on social media simply because they shared a different view or criticize their work .

Pic 1- Bosun Tijani (A minister of the federal republic of Nigeria ) announcing a project being overseen by his ministry under the current APC government .

Pic 2– An experienced project manager pointing out the challenges to be expected from the project during implementation phase, and asking what the FG would do different from what private entities like MTN, HUAWEI , etc . did in the past .

Pic 3 & 4 - The minister thinks the best course of action is to block a citizen who raised a genuine concern , instead of engaging in a meaningful dialogue .



Which manner of useless ego is that ?

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590:
Ebukacute:
As you don bobo yourself finish with your usual yeye talk, [b]he just declared above that he's a Tinubu supporter [/b]which clearly shows that you are the troll here and not me or anybody else who thinks that he is a Tinubu supporter.
Lol. I am not supporting any of the major candidates. If I have the opportunity, I will rather waste my vote on Sowore.

Uncomfortable Truth. Either one of the 3 major candidates will win.

If all eligible voters will waste their votes on Sowore, then, it will no longer be a waste anymore. But that's just wishful thinking and fantasy.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 12:04pm On Oct 18
BlueRayDick:
I still don’t understand the logic behind Public servants and government appointees blocking citizens on social media simply because they shared a different view or criticize their work .

Pic 1- Bosun Tijani (A minister of the federal republic of Nigeria ) announcing a project being overseen by his ministry under the current APC government .

Pic 2– An experienced project manager pointing out the challenges to be expected from the project during implementation phase, and asking what the FG would do different from what private entities like MTN, HUAWEI , etc . did in the past .

Pic 3 & 4 - The minister thinks the best course of action is to block a citizen who raised a genuine concern , instead of engaging in a meaningful dialogue .



Which manner of useless ego is that ?
a lesson i am sure you learnt at work - it is easier and more productive to correct or call out the boss in private rather than in public. this could have started with a DM. you are assuming the guy is acting in good faith and not just looking to embarrass or chase clout.

yes you can argue that Bosun is a public servant, but that does not mean he has to engage everyone who messages him in a public space.

in any event - mission accomplished. another opportunity to gnash teeth about the evil and devilish apc.

engaging him would likely not have made much difference
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ebukacute(m): 12:28pm On Oct 18
monerozi5590:
Lol. I am not supporting any of the major candidates. If I have the opportunity, I will rather waste my vote on Sowore.

Uncomfortable Truth. Either one of the 3 major candidates will win.

If all eligible voters will waste her vote on Sowore, then, it will no longer be a waste anymore. But that's just wishful thinking and fantasy.
shocked shocked shocked shocked
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:43pm On Oct 18
GloriousGbola:
a lesson i am sure you learnt at work - it is easier and more productive to correct or call out the boss in private rather than in public. this could have started with a DM. you are assuming the guy is acting in good faith and not just looking to embarrass or chase clout.

yes you can argue that Bosun is a public servant, but that does not mean he has to engage everyone who messages him in a public space.

in any event - mission accomplished. another opportunity to gnash teeth about the evil and devilish apc.

engaging him would likely not have made much difference
This does not even make any sense to me .

He should enter a public servant’s DM to discuss with him .

What manner of false equivalence is this ? Is Bosun Tijani the guy’s boss or a public servant who owes the public an explanation about the genuine concerns the guy raised about the project ?

Bosun Tijani announced the project in public and it only makes sense that any citizen who has genuine concern should arise such concerns in public!

Whether the guy question was in good faith or bad faith is immaterial . There’s no insult in what that guy posted . That was an opportunity for the minister to talk about measures they’ve put in place to make sure the project becomes a success during implementation phase .

It’s just useless arrogance and ego tripping that made Bosun react that way . There’s absolute no justification for it .
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:47pm On Oct 18
Governors are now forcing citizens to campaign for Tinubu’s reelection or face harassment in their respective states?

This is the Democracy that is better than military rule o


Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 12:56pm On Oct 18
BlueRayDick:
This does not even make any sense to me .

He should enter a public servant’s DM to discuss with him .

What manner of false equivalence is this ? Is Bosun Tijani the guy’s boss or a public servant who owes the public an explanation about the genuine concerns the guy raised about the project ?

Bosun Tijani announced the project in public and it only makes sense that any citizen who has genuine concern should arise such concerns in public!

Whether the guy question was in good faith or bad faith is immaterial . There’s no insult in what that guy posted . That was an opportunity for the minister to talk about measures they’ve put in place to make sure the project becomes a success during implementation phase .

It’s just useless arrogance and ego tripping that made Bosun react that way . There’s absolute no justification for it .
Bosun is not mandated to answer everyone who calls him out on social media - and choosing to block a person rather than engage in a debate that will go nowhere is not the power trip you think it is

you also do not know if they have a previous history

it is not as if 90% of the call outs on this platform are in good faith and not just political agenda
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:02pm On Oct 18
GloriousGbola:
Bosun is not mandated to answer everyone who calls him out on social media - and choosing to block a person rather than engage in a debate that will go nowhere is not the power trip you think it is

you also do not know if they have a previous history

it is not as if 90% of the call outs on this platform are in good faith and not just political agenda
Like u are saying u read the guy’s reply to Bosun’s post and u think the best course of action is for Bosun to Block him right ?

Omo !

No further words for you sir .
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:07pm On Oct 18
BlueRayDick:
I still don’t understand the logic behind Public servants and government appointees blocking citizens on social media simply because they shared a different view or criticize their work .

Pic 1- Bosun Tijani (A minister of the federal republic of Nigeria ) announcing a project being overseen by his ministry under the current APC government .

Pic 2– An experienced project manager pointing out the challenges to be expected from the project during implementation phase, and asking what the FG would do different from what private entities like MTN, HUAWEI , etc . did in the past .

Pic 3 & 4 - The minister thinks the best course of action is to block a citizen who raised a genuine concern , instead of engaging in a meaningful dialogue .



Which manner of useless ego is that ?
Bosun is now getting served his brand of Obidient politics and he cannot deal with it
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:10pm On Oct 18
Ballzproblemm:
Mind you use was doing it earlier this year saudi bombed

Incompetence choke the Arab goyims.
Ballz you may have seen this but you should listen again and go check out France

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 1:17pm On Oct 18
BlueRayDick:
Like u are saying u read the guy’s reply to Bosun’s post and u think the best course of action is for Bosun to Block him right ?

Omo !

No further words for you sir .
Being told by someone about what he already knows. You think Bosun, who has direct access to executives in all of Nigeria's telcos is not aware of these issues already? When your own bosses discuss projects in public have you not already gone through the who risk assessment and stakeholder management and multiple project reviews?

The cropped part of the tweet is what is most relevant.

Effectively Bosun has politely told him off and moved on.

Or maybe you expect bosun to talk about strategy to counter Bandits and thieves in a public space where same thieves are also present

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:28pm On Oct 18
GloriousGbola:
Being told by someone about what he already knows. You think Bosun, who has direct access to executives in all of Nigeria's telcos is not aware of these issues already? When your own bosses discuss projects in public have you not already gone through the who risk assessment and stakeholder management and multiple project reviews?

The cropped part of the tweet is what is most relevant.

Bosun has politely told him off and moved on.

Or maybe you expect bosun to talk about strategy to counter Bandits and thieves in a public space where same thieves are also present
Blocking a citizen as a public servant = politely telling him off in your books ?

I don’t even know what to say to you .

On this very thread we had extensive discussions about citizens holding their leaders accountable .

All that guy has done is constructive criticism ; there’s no how u want to spin his original post that it will make sense to a reasonable and objective person that the post was out of ill intentions .

You are an expert at false equivalence . In case you don’t know , a public servant actually owes members of the public explanation on policies and programs of government . If not, Bosun would not even make the initial post .

The cropped screenshot u posted was courtesy of Bosun’s fooolish decision to block someone raising a genuine concern . Don’t make it seem like the guy made the post after Bosun’s reckless decision .
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 1:39pm On Oct 18
BlueRayDick:
Blocking a citizen as a public servant = politely telling him off in your books ?

I don’t even know what to say to you .

On this very thread we had extensive discussions about citizens holding their leaders accountable .

All that guy has done is constructive criticism ; there’s no how u want to spin his original post that it will make sense to a reasonable and objective person that the post was out of ill intentions .

You are an expert at false equivalence . In case you don’t know , a public servant actually owes members of the public explanation on policies and programs of government . If not, Bosun would not even make the initial post .

The cropped screenshot u posted was courtesy of Bosun’s fooolish decision to block someone raising a genuine concern . Don’t make it seem like the guy made the post after Bosun’s reckless decision .
We had townhall meetings once a month. I am sure you do as well. Sometimes you have captain obvious - people who want to be seen as smart who start pointing out problems without proferring solutions.

If this guy had been like - this is a great initiative but we had these issues when we implemented and this is how we solved them - that is engagement.

Any jackass can point out problems
Is the project coordinator saying anything we don't know already?

Or in your own office do you hail people who talk about problems without proferring solutions as speaking truth to power?

Which incidentally is how we used to run debates back in the day. Talk about all the problems and then finish up with government should solve the problem as the solution
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:40pm On Oct 18
GloriousGbola:
Being told by someone about what he already knows. You think Bosun, who has direct access to executives in all of Nigeria's telcos is not aware of these issues already? When your own bosses discuss projects in public have you not already gone through the who risk assessment and stakeholder management and multiple project reviews?

The cropped part of the tweet is what is most relevant.

Effectively Bosun has politely told him off and moved on.

Or maybe you expect bosun to talk about strategy to counter Bandits and thieves in a public space where same thieves are also present
As a technical guy, you already know the guy is correct, and that project will join the rest in the trash bin.

The project smells politics all through sef. You want to kickstart a project that takes care of the rural citizens, and it's Bende local government (A town) that is the pilot location

Deputy Speaker - Bende Local Government
Orji Uzor Kalu - Bende Local Government

Instead of using a the worst possible Local government, they use an easy one. When they do like 20 local governments, they abandon the project and move to the next
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:46pm On Oct 18
GloriousGbola:
We had townhall meetings once a month. I am sure you do as well. Sometimes you have captain obvious - people who want to be seen as smart who start pointing out problems without proferring solutions.

If this guy had been like - this is a great initiative but we had these issues when we implemented and this is how we solved them - that is engagement.

Any jackass can point out problems
Is the project coordinator saying anything we don't know already?

Or in your own office do you hail people who talk about problems without proferring solutions as speaking truth to power?
Why did u keep asking about private organizations while the matter involves a public servant who blocked a tax payer for raising a genuine concern on the minister’s official social media account ? Nothing concern me with what you do in your private organization .

Do you have a problem with public servant being held accountable and providing clarifications on the same platform they used in making announcement about government projects ?

This was the same way people raised concerns about NNPC refinery , Nigeria Air and other government programs/projects that were ignored till they became what they are today .

This idea of people like you always talking down on people who have genuine concerns about government projects and programs needs to stop . No nation will grow if people like you are always supporting public servants to evade public scrutiny .
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 1:48pm On Oct 18
izzou:
As a technical guy, you already know the guy is correct, and that project will join the rest in the trash bin.

The project smells politics all through sef. You want to kickstart a project that takes care of the rural citizens, and it's Bende local government (A town) that is the pilot location

Deputy Speaker - Bende Local Government
Orji Uzor Kalu - Bende Local Government

Instead of using a the worst possible Local government, they use an easy one. When they do like 20 local governments, they abandon the project and move to the next
As a technical guy I will Also tell you that projects all over the world always have an element of politics because you need to lobby different people to push them through. It is what it is.

The person whose support you need to push it through is not likely driven by altruism.

Lagos was not dangotes first choice for his refinery. It was not the ideal choice. Was it not heavy lobbying and bullying of local stakeholders that secured it's place in Lagos?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:49pm On Oct 18
BlueRayDick:
Governors are now forcing citizens to campaign for Tinubu’s reelection or face harassment in their respective states?

This is the Democracy that is better than military rule o
Lol.

I don't know about Nigeria, but Tinubu himself is well aware that his 2027 outing in the SE would be worse than 2023. Unless there's the usual....

And that is why all the SE politicians are tearing down Obi at any slightest opportunity; even more than any Zone. It's because they know he cannot pick anything there.

I saw the commissioning of the rehabilitated First Niger bridge and one of the musicians who played and wore APC T shirt was asked if he would vote Tinubu. He said No.

I don't blame them. If not force, nobody would attend any rally, and they know.

Make Keke people endure, and use their finger where necessary in 2027
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:52pm On Oct 18
GloriousGbola:
As a technical guy I will Also tell you that projects all over the world always have an element of politics because you need to lobby different people to push them through. It is what it is.

The person whose support you need to push it through is not likely driven by altruism.

Lagos was not dangotes first choice for his refinery. It was not the ideal choice. Was it not heavy lobbying and bullying of local stakeholders that secured it's place in Lagos?
I am just telling you it's politics.

But you know the guy is right. Insecurity will not let that project see the light of day.

The cost to install a mast runs into tens of millions, which can be destroyed in one night.

The guy is just pointing the obvious. But we would rather pamper and massage Bosun's ego than see another white elephant project in the making
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 1:56pm On Oct 18
BlueRayDick:
Why did u keep asking about private organizations while the matter involves a public servant who blocked a tax payer for raising a genuine concern on the minister’s official social media account ? Nothing concern me with what you do in your private organization .

Do you have a problem with public servant being held accountable and providing clarifications on the same platform they used in making announcement about government projects ?

This was the same way people raised concerns about NNPC refinery , Nigeria Air and other government programs/projects that were ignored till they became what they are today .

This idea of people like you always talking down on people who have genuine concerns about government projects and programs needs to stop . No nation will grow if people like you are always supporting public servants to evade public scrutiny .
Meaningless negativity on a public forum is not demanding accountability. It is performative posturing for likes.

And anyone can do it. You do not have to be a 'project coordinator' to be able to note that theft is a risk. Are you not the one who was clowning on the federal govt for engaging the community to secure manholes and fence for the coastal road the other day?

So do you actually have any solutions other than APC govt bad?

If bosun responded that nscdc and community would protect the assets you would still have responded the way you did that time.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:59pm On Oct 18
izzou:
Lol.

I don't know about Nigeria, but Tinubu himself is well aware that his 2027 outing in the SE would be worse than 2023. Unless there's the usual....

And that is why all the SE politicians are tearing down Obi at any slightest opportunity; even more than any Zone. It's because they know he cannot pick anything there.

I saw the commissioning of the rehabilitated First Niger bridge and one of the musicians who played and wore APC T shirt was asked if he would vote Tinubu. He said No.

I don't blame them. If not force, nobody would attend any rally, and they know.

Make Keke people endure, and use their finger where necessary in 2027
I just feel some of those governors don’t need all the nonsense they are doing in the name of sycophancy.

They can support Tinubu’s reelection without oppressing their own people . At least those of them in APC can mobilize their party supporters to rally for them and Tinubu without necessarily subjecting the neutrals and opposition party members to kowtowing at their behest .
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:00pm On Oct 18
After the first day of the launch, the IPO was oversubscribed by 80%. Just Day 1.

By now, it should be up to 400%

People should be wary of this man, to be honest

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:03pm On Oct 18
izzou:
I am just telling you it's politics.

But you know the guy is right. Insecurity will not let that project see the light of day.

The cost to install a mast runs into tens of millions, which can be destroyed in one night.

The guy is just pointing the obvious. But we would rather pamper and massage Bosun's ego that see another white elephant project in the making
Every time you have a job you have multiple risks. Police, task force, robbers. Vehicle failure. You have your contingencies for them. So will you put your work on hold for an expert who is simply telling you what you already know?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNY4UFaHbP4?si=WBJ-zLQiJYy0vYJ7

Very good at outlining the issue
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:05pm On Oct 18
BlueRayDick:
I just feel some of those governors don’t need all the nonsense they are doing in the name of sycophancy.

They can support Tinubu’s reelection without oppressing their own people . At least those of them in APC can mobilize their party supporters to rally for them and Tinubu without necessarily subjecting the neutrals and opposition party members to kowtowing at their behest .
All these is just to look nice for Tinubu.

Tinubu knows he is getting next to nothing from there. The man is not stupid.

Who rehabilitates a bridge with public funds, and then ban all adverts there, only Tinubu's face is allowed?

The whole roads in the SW, which one has Tinubu's face alone on it?

Let them finish. Nothing lives forever
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 2:08pm On Oct 18
GloriousGbola:
Every time you have a job you have multiple risks. Police, task force, robbers. Vehicle failure. You have your contingencies for them. So will you put your work on hold for an expert who is simply telling you what you already know?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNY4UFaHbP4?si=WBJ-zLQiJYy0vYJ7

Very good at outlining the issue
His point is simple.

Why start from scratch to build a structure that can and will be vandalized soon?

Why not partner with other service providers? They already have their place across Nigeria. Whatever rural plan you have can easily reach Nigerians in shorter time

Like I said, we will be alive when this rural lamba will enter another Manila Folder and kept under the desk.
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