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QuinQ:
The discussion has gone way beyond that, even into spirits and humans lacking true consciousness

Right, you switched up your nonsense once your initial nonsense was debunked. LoLz.

QuinQ:
Stating a fact is not questioning reality. Our senses pick up very little of what there is. See below

That is why we make instruments to detect what we cannot. To now claim that our particular lack means what we do know is invalidated is nonsense.

QuinQ:
Because unlike me, I'm suspicious there are NLers with more than one account

What are you talking about? Is QuinQQ not YOUR 2nd account?

QuinQ:
You are really not very smart, are you? That's why I quashed the idea that you and LordReed could be one and the same person. See below

BTW DeepSight runs miles ahead of you when it comes to intellectual prowess. You are outclassed and outgunned when it comes to you and him.

tctrills:
Could you answer the exact same question for 99% of ancient historians? Why are you creating a different standard for the Apostles.

Again, you are wrong about the Apostles. The new testament is a collection of independent books so most of the apostles were mentioned by at least 4 independent writers which most ancient historians can't boast of.

How many ancient historians wrote about Josephus? Peter on the other hand had at least 5 independent historians write about him.
Paul, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John all wrote about him.

So how is Josephus a more authentic historical figure?
I believe I have answered your question now can you please answer the question I posted in my earlier post?

Josephus introduced himself in all his works, but on the other hand the gospels all began life anonymously, nobody knew who actually wrote them. but i have a hunch, Mark was written by Eusebius and his lieutenants used it as abase to write the others.....john was written by someone who had strong learning in Greek philosophy...hence the logos and stuff...

QuinQ:
No mind them. See all the evidence listed above. People like this musicwriter guy (alias sonmvayina) simply refuse to think once they chance upon a FALSE premise they happen to like!

check this out, just download this on pdf. it would be worth your while....and FyI, We are two different people......any sensible person would have figured that out since....
https://www.academia.edu/83522705/Mesopotamian_Civilization_and_the_Origins_of_the_New_Testament

LordReed:
Right, you switched up your nonsense once your initial nonsense was debunked. LoLz.

Debunked how? We moved on once you conceded that IA is not just a language tree as that YouTube video says, once you conceded that you really don't know

LordReed:
That is why we make instruments to detect what we cannot. To now claim that our particular lack means what we do know is invalidated is nonsense.

What instrument has told you what consciousness is and that there is only one form of consciousness? Or told you what dark matter/energy is, which make up over 95% of your knowable reality. Mind you we'er only talking of your microscope part of the universe and the microscope part of your microscope world knowable to you, never mind those you'll never suspect that you don't know that you don't know!

LordReed:
What are you talking about? Is QuinQQ not YOUR 2nd account?

This one is obvious. We're talking of ones trying to fool anybody

LordReed:
BTW DeepSight runs miles ahead of you when it comes to intellectual prowess. You are outclassed and outgunned when it comes to you and him.

I beg to differ. He doesn't even know organic doesn't always mean agricultural. It is me first, then the rest of you

sonmvayina:
check this out, just download this on pdf. it would be worth your while....and FyI, We are two different people......any sensible person would have figured that out since....
https://www.academia.edu/83522705/Mesopotamian_Civilization_and_the_Origins_of_the_New_Testament

Download what? Did I ask you to download anything? Just use it's argument to debunk all the evidence I have presented

QuinQ:
I beg to differ. He doesn't even know organic doesn't always mean agricultural. It is me first, then the rest of you

I suppose I also don't know that a politician can have an organic following.

QuinQ:
I beg to differ. He doesn't even know organic doesn't always mean agricultural. It is me first, then the rest of you

Your conceit already shows that you are very low on the intellectual totem. Then your fanboyism of a like minded intellectual pretender like Elon Musk solidifies that assessment.

DeepSight:


I suppose I also don't know that a politician can have an organic following.

Who wrote this below?

LordReed:
Your conceit already shows that you are very low on the intellectual totem. Then your fanboyism of a like minded intellectual pretender like Elon Musk solidifies that assessment.

How is it conceit when it is true??
"Pretender" Elon Musk is richer than you

QuinQ:
What instrument has told you what consciousness is and that there is only one form of consciousness? Or told you what dark matter/energy is, which make up over 95% of your knowable reality. Mind you we'er only talking of your microscope part of the universe and the microscope part of your microscope world knowable to you, never mind those you'll never suspect that you don't know that you don't know!

You show your ignorance of these subjects by not knowing that it is through instrumentation that we know of the existence of dark matter and energy.

No matter how much we don't know it will never invalidate what we do know.

QuinQ:
How is it conceit when it is true??
"Pretender" Elon Musk is richer than you

If it took intellectual prowess to be rich Einstein would have been a trillionaire before Musk was a glint in his father's eye.

It is conceit because it isn't true. Your inflated ego has revealed your intellectual poverty.

LordReed:
You show your ignorance of these subjects by not knowing that it is through instrumentation that we know of the existence of dark matter and energy.

No matter how much we don't know it will never invalidate what we do know.

This is what I mean when I say I am first. There are lots of things we know that will turn out we know wrong, say, a thousand years from now. Yet generations will live and die thinking we know!
Your thinking doesn't extend to that. That's why I am number one

QuinQ:
This is what I mean when I say I am first. There are lots of things we know that will turn out we know wrong, say, a thousand years from now. Yet generations will live and die thinking we know!
Your thinking doesn't extend to that. That's why I am number one

LoLz. This is what I am saying intellectual lightweights like you think their fantasies are knowledge. Your fantasies will become invalidated but human knowledge will continue to increase based on what we know now.

QuinQ:
Who wrote this below?

A machine is not an organic or natural thing in the context of the discussion. Do I have to spell it out for you.

QuinQ:
Debunked how? We moved on once you conceded that IA is not just a language tree as that YouTube video says, once you conceded that you really don't know

LoLz. Quote where I made such a concession.

DeepSight, I think we are being trolled. This person is an intellectual ant in a clown suit.

LordReed:
If it took intellectual prowess to be rich Einstein would have been a trillionaire before Musk was a glint in his father's eye.

It is conceit because it isn't true. Your inflated ego has revealed your intellectual poverty.

Someone who invented Space X, Neurolink, the Boring company, Tesla, etc, and be running all of them simultaneously is NOT a "pretender"!

LordReed:
LoLz. This is what I am saying intellectual lightweights like you think their fantasies are knowledge. Your fantasies will become invalidated but human knowledge will continue to increase based on what we know now.

See below. That's why I'm number one. I reason with the the greats while your reasoning is mundane

DeepSight:
A machine is not an organic or natural thing in the context of the discussion. Do I have to spell it out for you.

My use of the word had nothing to do with natural thing or not. It simply means something that arises inevitably as a result of something. You really should know that

LordReed:
LoLz. Quote where I made such a concession.

DeepSight, I think we are being trolled. This person is an intellectual ant in a clown suit.

See circled below. How does a "language tree" become sentient or conscious??

QuinQ:
See circled below. How does a "language tree" become sentient or conscious??

LordReed:
What it is now is different from what it will be in the future.

BTW how is this the concession you claimed?

QuinQ:
See below. That's why I'm number one. I reason with the the greats while your reasoning is mundane

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QuinQ:
See below. That's why I'm number one. I reason with the the greats while your reasoning is mundane

Low level reasoning that has no appreciation of nuance. You just regurgitate half digested things you don't even care to understand.

How does either of these mean that future knowledge will INVALIDATE our current knowledge?

This is trolling I swear.

QuinQ:
Someone who invented Space X, Neurolink, the Boring company, Tesla, etc, and be running all of them simultaneously is NOT a "pretender"!

Bwahahahahaha! How do you invent a company? Bro please go away you are simply out classed.

BTW he didn't invent anything. All the technology and ideas those companies use were already known or in development before he came along. Musk a hype man and hype men make money off gullible rubes like you.

Also store is closed no more feeding the troll for you.

LordReed:
BTW how is this the concession you claimed?

You were asked a question. Just give us a sketchy idea how in a trillion years a mere language tree becomes conscious and sentient

LordReed:
BTW how is this the concession you claimed?

I said it right there - asked if there are two of you. Because a mere language tree can NEVER become any of those