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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 9:41pm On Oct 21
Goal ball
Boring Arsenal Abi grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 9:42pm On Oct 21
Come On You Gunners !
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 9:45pm On Oct 21
Merino Oya go and give gabu the armband
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 9:51pm On Oct 21
This match is highly tactical

How is Timber getting to left wing
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 9:52pm On Oct 21
Good match.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 9:54pm On Oct 21
Fair result
It was going to be difficult
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 9:55pm On Oct 21
This is a proper match!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mine3112: 10:24pm On Oct 21
Spy360:
This match is highly tactical

How is Timber getting to left wing
Welcome back Spy. Good to have you back.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mine3112: 10:25pm On Oct 21
BlueRayDick:
This is a proper match!
I missed the second half but it will not be easy beaten them at home.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by daveP(m): 11:05pm On Oct 21
Gyokeres is more important than whatever best version Kai can offer Arsenal when it matters most.

Take it or leave it.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 4:24am On Oct 22
mine3112:
Welcome back Spy. Good to have you back.
Thank you my person
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 4:27am On Oct 22
daveP:
Gyokeres is more important than whatever best version Kai can offer Arsenal when it matters most.

Take it or leave it.
Because of one assist?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Lush100(m): 5:49am On Oct 22
daveP:
Gyokeres is more important than whatever best version Kai can offer Arsenal when it matters most.

Take it or leave it.
.

Baba let's look at Gykores whole game this season,
You sincere thinking this statement is true..
Apart from the fact that Arteta should improve his confidence by more game time.
The various times he had ..he didn't provide what he expected of him.

Let's just wait and see but let's not be clouded by what we think he will deliver by what he actually delivers
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Roland17(m): 6:29am On Oct 22
Saka’s injury is really worrying me. I hate non-contact injuries. He was in pain after the pass. This is going to be a big loss for the team.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m): 7:18am On Oct 22
Lush100:
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Baba let's look at Gykores whole game this season,
You sincere thinking this statement is true..
Apart from the fact that Arteta should improve his confidence by more game time.
The various times he had ..he didn't provide what he expected of him.

Let's just wait and see but let's not be clouded by what we think he will deliver by what he actually delivers
What did kai do
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by johnjunior39(m): 7:40am On Oct 22
daveP:
Gyokeres is more important than whatever best version Kai can offer Arsenal when it matters most.

Take it or leave it.
I will ssay it any day any time, I will choose Gyokeres over Kai. I remember when Havertz was on goal draught, how all his teams supported him and that penalty they gave him to take. Even when Chamakh was in this club, there was a game everyone was crossing so he could just nod.

Is not about selling him, another striker may come and face same thing
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by johnjunior39(m): 7:41am On Oct 22
Lush100:
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Baba let's look at Gykores whole game this season,
You sincere thinking this statement is true..
Apart from the fact that Arteta should improve his confidence by more game time.
The various times he had ..he didn't provide what he expected of him.

Let's just wait and see but let's not be clouded by what we think he will deliver by what he actually delivers
Kai is worse, you literally have to be looking for him in every game, he get a chance and he make nonsense out of it.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick:
johnjunior39:
Kai is worse, you literally have to be looking for him in every game, he get a chance and he make nonsense out of it.
I don't think Kai is worse, rather I think both Gyokeres and Havertz are inconsistent as far as the CF role is concerned at Arsenal.

The last Champions league game vs Lille, Gyokeres started the game and didn't do anything till Havertz came on in the second half, got an assist and we went on to win the game. Gyokeres also started the game vs Napoli and didn't do much to help us win.

I was expecting Gyokeres will start yesterday like most fans, but I guess Arteta thought why start Gyokeres who hasn't justified his inclusion in the last 2 champions league matches? Areta started Havertz and that one sef chose yesterday to drop a stinker performance till Gyokeres came on to provide Rice's assist.

Both Gyokeres and Havertz are not consistent upfront and that's where the issue lies. I guess the only reason Arteta starts Havertz most times is because when he plays, he kinda makes our frontline fluid when compared to Gyokeres. But the crux of the matter is both players are inconsistent when it comes to their primary duty of being in that CF role to convert chances.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by daveP(m): 9:24am On Oct 22
Lush100:
.

Baba let's look at Gykores whole game this season,
You sincere thinking this statement is true..
Apart from the fact that Arteta should improve his confidence by more game time.
The various times he had ..he didn't provide what he expected of him.

Let's just wait and see but let's not be clouded by what we think he will deliver by what he actually delivers
He's played significantly less minutes and have been more influential on our attack style than Kai. It's not even Arsenal fans arguing about their faves between the two, it is other clubs now openly saying it daily. If we are biased at home, rival fans that don't wish us well are openly confessing that shows he's doing something right.


Have you seen Kai's positioning this season alone allll games he's played?

Arsenal midfield doesn't need Kai dropping deep to do anything since Bruno arrived. See where he was when Eze ran for that goal. At LB zone!! That's our striker that we need closer to the box. LB zone!!


Both are not at the levels we need them to be(Gyo confidence is low due to restricted game time, but Kai that's playing offers no threat despite the mins. CBs love Kai)

Gyo>>>>>


Harry Kane drops deep and rakes in Assists

Kai drops deep and contribution goes straight to zero zero.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Shegzdave: 9:25am On Oct 22
No wonder Arteta leaves this broski to do his thing on the field

/video/1?s=46
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by daveP(m): 9:32am On Oct 22
Spy360:
Because of one assist?
Assist that was crucial for a point after 70mins of Kai? Definitely. For this one? Yes!!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by daveP(m): 9:39am On Oct 22
BlueRayDick:
I don't think Kai is worse, rather I think both Gyokeres and Havertz are inconsistent as far as the CF role is concerned at Arsenal.

The last Champions league game vs Lille, Gyokeres started the game and didn't do anything till Havertz came on in the second half, got a goal and we went on to win the game. Gyokeres also started the game vs Napoli and didn't do much to help us win.

I was expecting Gyokeres will start yesterday like most fans, but I guess Arteta thought why start Gyokeres who hasn't justified his inclusion in the last 2 champions league matches? Areta started Havertz and that one sef chose yesterday to drop a stinker performance till Gyokeres came on to provide Rice's assist.

Both Gyokeres and Havertz are not consistent upfront and that's where the issue lies. I guess the only reason Arteta starts Havertz most times is because when he plays, he kinda makes our frontline fluid when compared to Gyokeres. But the crux of the matter is both players are inconsistent when it comes to their primary duty of being in that CF role to convert chances.
Let's assume for once i agree with all of this about inconsistency, the bolded is absolutely not true.


Fluid and Kai insame sentence?

He doesn't set us teammates
He waste teammates chances
Not in the box for crosses.
Is everywhere else except where he ought to be and he can do this alll game.
So confused he goes LW and RW to spam crosses when he should be the one on the receiving end by staying in the box.
This is who Arteta trusts to get 25goals in EPL?
Centre backs are happy we have no CF to stop them joining the press against us.
Calafiori have better box instincts than Kai.


If both are inconsistent, then we should be giving the stick to Kai cos he's gotten a larger share of the pie with minutes played between the two.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by daveP(m): 9:45am On Oct 22
Forest now Bayern

He's really deep🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by iamoyindamola(m):
Shegzdave:
No wonder Arteta leaves this broski to do his thing on the field

/video/1?s=46
Calafiori is too chaotic, nowadays I stop worrying when I see him upfront no be me he go give heart attack
If he can work on his offside positioning he will score loads because he's a better finisher compare to our CF

https://x.com/UPYOURARSENAL04/status/2113042788392550833
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 10:27am On Oct 22
daveP:
Let's assume for once i agree with all of this about inconsistency, the bolded is absolutely not true.


Fluid and Kai insame sentence?

He doesn't set us teammates
He waste teammates chances
Not in the box for crosses.
Is everywhere else except where he ought to be and he can do this alll game.
So confused he goes LW and RW to spam crosses when he should be the one on the receiving end by staying in the box.
This is who Arteta trusts to get 25goals in EPL?
Centre backs are happy we have no CF to stop them joining the press against us.
Calafiori have better box instincts than Kai.


If both are inconsistent, then we should be giving the stick to Kai cos he's gotten a larger share of the pie with minutes played between the two.
You may choose to disagree, but the reality is what it is.

Arsenal vs Man City- Havertz had 1 goal
Arsenal vs Conventry- Havertz had 1 goal
Arsenal vs Chelsea- Havertz had 1 goal
Arsenal vs Lille- Havertz had 1 assist coming off the bench

All the matches listed above are games we played well and got favorable result with us being in control from start to finish.

I say they are both inconsistent because the moment you give Havertz freehand to own the starting CF role, he will drop stinker and the manager will think of giving Gyokeres a chance. Then Gyokeres will drop a goal or assist like he did yesterday, only for him to drop stinker too later.

I won't join the bandwagon of fans who believe there's an agenda against Gyokeres by Areta, neither will I fool myself by saying Havertz is good enough to start all Arsenal matches as the standing CF. Both players are not consistent like our other players in different roles.

I would prefer the club sign a striker in January instead of relying on the two of them and their inconsistent performances.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by purplekayc(m): 10:30am On Oct 22
Who has any information about the extent bof the saka injury against bayern
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by BlueRayDick: 10:34am On Oct 22
daveP:
Forest now Bayern

He's really deep🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️
Is it a problem that a striker came to join the defence when we lost the ball?

You should be praising Odegaard's ingenuity for picking out Eze who obviously didn't join the team in defending in the sequence of play before the goal. I hope you know Odegaard who played the pass was farther from Havertz and even closer to our 18 yard box when he picked out that pass.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 11:05am On Oct 22
daveP:
Forest now Bayern

He's really deep🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️
Let me ask you something.
Aside Eze who is playing left wing, the other players, are they in the right place position-wise?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 11:07am On Oct 22
purplekayc:
Who has any information about the extent bof the saka injury against bayern
It's his quad. He was not in braces while leaving Allianz Arena.
But I hate to say this, it's about time we start looking out.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by mostob(m): 11:39am On Oct 22
BlueRayDick:
Is it a problem that a striker came to join the defence when we lost the ball?

You should be praising Odegaard's ingenuity for picking out Eze who obviously didn't join the team in defending in the sequence of play before the goal. I hope you know Odegaard who played the pass was farther from Havertz and even closer to our 18 yard box when he picked out that pass.
The earlier some fans realize that a traditional striker doesn't suit the Arsenal system, the better. A review of the recent transfer speculations should indicate this. Kroupi, Alvarez, Rogers. Players who can comfortably occupy different positions on the pitch.

Arteta said he is building a team that can adjust to different playing patterns according to the opposition they face.

Kane was Bayern Striker yesterday. He used to be a poacher, a fox in the box type. And now he has evolved. Baba even took a goal kick yesterday and Davies almost scored. See the way he was roaming about. Look at that pass to Davies for the equalizer.

It's why Havertz will continually start ahead of Gyokeres.
We played a lot of long balls yesterday. He was mostly at the receiving end. Something Gyokeres is not good at.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 3:34pm On Oct 22
daveP:
Assist that was crucial for a point after 70mins of Kai? Definitely. For this one? Yes!!
Was that even an assist or a a failed attempt to control the ball?

You people will just be hyping Mr nobody to spite the manager and Havertz

Gyokeres is given up to 40mins per match and he does nothing with it, yet you want him to start. Based on what?

Abeg wake up
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 3:39pm On Oct 22
BlueRayDick:
I don't think Kai is worse, rather I think both Gyokeres and Havertz are inconsistent as far as the CF role is concerned at Arsenal.

The last Champions league game vs Lille, Gyokeres started the game and didn't do anything till Havertz came on in the second half, got an assist and we went on to win the game. Gyokeres also started the game vs Napoli and didn't do much to help us win.

I was expecting Gyokeres will start yesterday like most fans, but I guess Arteta thought why start Gyokeres who hasn't justified his inclusion in the last 2 champions league matches? Areta started Havertz and that one sef chose yesterday to drop a stinker performance till Gyokeres came on to provide Rice's assist.

Both Gyokeres and Havertz are not consistent upfront and that's where the issue lies. I guess the only reason Arteta starts Havertz most times is because when he plays, he kinda makes our frontline fluid when compared to Gyokeres. But the crux of the matter is both players are inconsistent when it comes to their primary duty of being in that CF role to convert chances.
Your last line is where you get it wrong.

Havertz's primary role is to create and not to convert chances. He is a false 9. Just as we saw Kane yesterday, he played as a false 9 and he didn't score a hatrick.

Gyokeres on the other hand plays as a traditional 9. It's his role to score goals.

The reason Arteta prefers Havertz is not because he is more likely to score but because he adds more to the overall performance of the team.
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