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Diligence:
This is Engineering worst practice!

Design Engineering is best practice; it encompasses Scope Statement (inclusions & exclusions, EIA, planning for materials vendors will purchase, fabrication, actual construction, et al.

I don't think he really meant what he said...

Let's take this video down before international engineering communities see/hear this & conclude that's what Nigerian engineers do!


So, I hv a house to build, so I build the foundation first, then decide what next to build...You see why buildings collapse & road projects fail in Nigeria?

I work for a global semiconductor manufacturer, when we are designing very large projects there are allocations for change and most large projects are segmented for both design, construction and commissioning, the initial design, changes, segmented deployment are all influenced by the scope established at the start of the project.

This 750km costal road has a well defined scope which was well established from mid 60s, to bring a costal road along our shores from Lagos to calabar

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This speaks volumes..no project engineering design.. Building by e work abi e no work

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Sonyboom:
Many of you who deliberately misinterprete news information such as thisndeserve lengthy jail term to have your brains corrected. Did you not read where the clearly stated documentation were proceed in section instead of a single one for the entire 750 KM road or you think this is 0.3 KM Alex Otti celebrate to fool your likes.

Lol save the explanation for your family meeting. It's no one's fault you are deluded.

Afrojuju2017:
The topic is misleading and also exposes the failure of education in Nigeria.

The minister said it had no "single engineering design" this means the design is not singular and universal but rather the design is compartmental and is progressive in each section of road,
I would rather want a final design but I can understand the rational behind this method of sectional design as there are constant changes due to topographic, ecological, social, political and financial constraints this method makes things more flexible where adjustments need to be made.

Let him displayed the design and engineering drawings for the project. He agreed earlier no EIA, when you defend use your God given head.

dalitigator:
I now fully understand that most Nigerians have a comprehension problem. There is a huge difference between having no engineering design at all and not having a single comprehensive design capturing the entire project. What is available, rather, is a section-by-section engineering design.

Haba! Well, I do not expect much from the same class of persons who said the State Police Bill will never see the light of day. Their Agulu Messiah is busy jumping from one party to another, serving party jollof rice. No single campaign plan for what to do to make a difference. It is only an expert in dishing out no existing figures and no realistic political positions.

The other one whose former principal will never recommend for a job has become a social media influencer hustling for Elon Musk's urgent 2k, rather than coming up with a better plan.

In all, PBAT till 2031.

It is well!

The project is a single project; 750km Lagos-Calabar Coadtal Highway.
The Engineering Dedign should be a cimprejensive one that captures all secrions of the project and the costimg..

Why the rush to award the project to a contractor (business associate of the president) without a comprehensive engineering design and costing!?

Let's stop giving excuses for acts that promote recklessness, corruption and mediocrity!
How can they even hold the contractor to any standards when there is no engineering design that he must follow?

LegacyB:
Go back and watch the video, too many Nigerians with low IQ.

Now that the road won't follow the original alignment of the coast, won't the #15T be reduced since we won't be constructing new roads after Ogun State?

Maybe you should go back and watch the video to help build your IQ.

Vision101:
Have you worked for a construction company before? I have worked for 17 years in charge of accounting and project costing in a Nigerian/Romanian outfit. The company majored on world Bank and multilateral agencies assisted projects. In a project of this magnitude you will find it difficult to have one fixed cost. It's broken into lots or sections and costed according. The designs are equally in this pattern.

Dave is right. In this type of project there will always be cost and design adjustments as new issues are discovered. The overall cost can only be known at the completion of the project.

Too much politics against this project. Why are
people not politicizing the Sokoto Badagri super highway? Can you see what we are doing to ourselves in the south?

There is an important distinction between a final cost and an estimated total project cost.

Phased construction should not mean that the government cannot explain the project's overall financial exposure.

tojahh:
Now that the road won't follow the original alignment of the coast, won't the #15T be reduced since we won't be constructing new roads after Ogun State?

Maybe you should go back and watch the video to help build your IQ.

That’s why I said you did not watch the interview. There is no 15T Naira . Why it is no difficult for you guys to understand? You guys are too Lazy to read I know. But this is an interview ( a video) for God’s sake. Go back and listen slowly before you comment again. Stop exposing your ignorance.

Willie2015:
There is an important distinction between a final cost and an estimated total project cost.

Phased construction should not mean that the government cannot explain the project's overall financial exposure.

Clearly you don’t know much about construction. The guy you quoted is right. I am a certified project manager and a construction management expert. You guys just comment emotionally.

Afrojuju2017:
I work for a global semiconductor manufacturer, when we are designing very large projects there are allocations for change and most large projects are segmented for both design, construction and commissioning, the initial design, changes, segmented deployment are all influenced by the scope established at the start of the project.

This 750km costal road has a well defined scope which was well established from mid 60s, to bring a costal road along our shores from Lagos to calabar

Thanks for enlightening them. People like you made me remain on Nairaland. Too many dull brains here.

mikeapollo:
The project is a single project; 750km Lagos-Calabar Coadtal Highway.
The Engineering Dedign should be a cimprejensive one that captures all secrions of the project and the costimg..

Why the rush to award the project to a contractor (business associate of the president) without a comprehensive engineering design and costing!?

Let's stop giving excuses for acts that promote recklessness, corruption and mediocrity!
How can they even hold the contractor to any standards when there is no engineering design that he must follow?

Go to school and learn project management or construction instead of just yapping from ignorance.

Mr coastal Road 🤣

Are you saying the #15T budgeted for the Coastal alignment and construction is a faux?
You know while trying to appear woke, y'all always leave a loophole that exposes your ignorance and wannabe. Is there a #15T budget for the road, yes or no. Then we can talk about the video because whatever the video was saying, there was a reason the budgeted amount was cunningly skipped my friend.

If U are an Engineer and watched that interview, you will be irritated at the level of incompetence displayed by a supposed Professor in practice.
First he said there was no design for the road which is crazy, then the question is which design was approved for construction what specifications are they using for construction since there was no design?
How exactly did they arrive at their over bloated cost of $5m dollars per kilometre since there was no design?
Also the way he was talking shows there was no EIA on the project if not they would have seen these issues they claim are arising now forcing them the realign the road
I have never seen a project with so much incompetence and waste.

LegacyB:
That’s why I said you did not watch the interview. There is no 15T Naira . Why it is no difficult for you guys to understand? You guys are too Lazy to read I know. But this is an interview ( a video) for God’s sake. Go back and listen slowly before you comment again. Stop exposing your ignorance.

tojahh:
Are you saying the #15T budgeted for the Coastal alignment and construction is a faux?
You know while trying to appear woke, y'all always leave a loophole that exposes your ignorance and wannabe. Is there a #15T budget for the road, yes or no. Then we can talk about the video because whatever the video was saying, there was a reason the budgeted amount was cunningly skipped my friend.

If U are an Engineer and watched that interview, you will be irritated at the level of incompetence displayed by a supposed Professor in practice.
First he said there was no design for the road which is crazy, then the question is which design was approved for construction what specifications are they using for construction since there was no design?
How exactly did they arrive at their over bloated cost of $5m dollars per kilometre since there was no design?
Also the way he was talking shows there was no EIA on the project if not they would have seen these issues they claim are arising now forcing them the realign the road
I have never seen a project with so much incompetence and waste.

My only answer to you is that your 15Tnaira is a hoax.

LegacyB:
My only answer to you is that your 15Tnaira is a hoax.

You see how your response don limit as you don see am say the matter dey beyond what you can comprehend?

Well, it's not my #15T but that is the cost estimate of the supposed coastal alignment (which we just found out has no engineering design) omg 😂. Nigeria una too do sha.

tojahh:
You see how your response don limit as you don see am say the matter dey beyond what you can comprehend?

Well, it's not my #15T but that is the cost estimate of the supposed coastal alignment (which we just found out has no engineering design) omg 😂. Nigeria una too do sha.

Stop being Lazy go and watch the interview. You have all your answers there. I have answered one for you no 15T budget anywhere….

LegacyB:
Stop being Lazy go and watch the interview. You have all your answers there. I have answered one for you no 15T budget anywhere….

You clowning around. I asked you a question. HOW DID THE MINISTER CAME UP WITH THE #15T BUDGET FOR THE COASTAL ROAL SINCE There's NO ENGINEERING DESIGN?

In a simple phrase... How much is the budget for the Coastal Road? You know the problem with oversabi? Una dey always leave gap and turn conversation to accusations when facts are lacking.

Just tell me as a lazy man... What is the budget for the road. Simple!