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Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by itzadorable333: 11:14pm On Oct 26
LordLicifer:
grin grin grin You sure have a wild imagination . Go and tell Jesus that he must come and defend himself that he didn't have 6 Baby Mamas.
hahahaha wild what?
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by LordLicifer(m): 11:18pm On Oct 26
itzadorable333:
Hehehe I'm so happy to be in this thread, many people don't know the kind of fun going on here...I didn't even know you're this funny
Funny? Cheers! grin I can also be rude sometimes.


Come,you be man or woman? grin because females are ussually very religious
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by LordLicifer(m): 11:20pm On Oct 26
itzadorable333:
Hehehe LORRRDDD LUCCCCCIFFFERRR STOP ITTT!!!
Na God made weed naah, no be dem talk say God created everything?
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by erico2k2(m): 11:59pm On Oct 26
free2ryhme:
sickening

Sick people bent on introducing three-some in marriage

Gullible congregation applauding this abomination
Bro check am how many prophets in the bible get one wife huh?
This one wife thing is not from the bible, its from England
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by Toscarel: 12:14am On Oct 27
ufotunang:
..I did some research in Google and they said bigamy and polygamy is illegal in USA..it's against the law
So how is he getting away with that ?
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by YourGFsnatcher: 12:20am On Oct 27
autoez:
Good one Pastor. He's trutfull to himself and his God. Not all this fake pastors we have here with multiple girlfriends and baby mamas.
Is your brain watery?
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by ufotunang: 1:15am On Oct 27
Toscarel:
So how is he getting away with that ?
.. I am sure the police will come and arrest him.. nobody is above the law in USA
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by Exceed15: 2:28am On Oct 27
He did it openly. This is true Christianity.
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by free2ryhme: 3:51am On Oct 27
erico2k2:
Bro check am how many prophets in the bible get one wife huh?
This one wife thing is not from the bible, its from England
How many wife Joseph get
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by Teymanhenry(m): 4:33am On Oct 27
Chachalogo:
True Christianity has been turned up-side-down.
How? When is marrying multiple wives now a sin or when is first wife welcoming and accepting second wife now a sin
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by divine010: 5:19am On Oct 27
Kukutente23:
"He's poured so much into me"
grin grin
My Old man used to say you can get a woman to do anything you want to do with women in this world as long as you have enough money to satisfy them

How true this is

Just imagine Black American women shining teeth that they are now sharing husbands, So what happened to all the feminism of the 80s

Where is pocohantas and Jennyclay

Come and see ya mates
I didnt see this Just earlier Yesterday i remembered an Area uncle he works in coca cola Big man and he married

This man back in the early millenum has long list of mistresses buh the misery there is how this mistresses sometimes bump into one another around him, they don't complain, no fight e dey amuze me then
Infact Over submissive they worry all the mistresses, they don't wana risk losing him , Why huh

He is a provider, and he solves any problem in their life that is money, they know time with him is a money problem-free 😀
Our fathers will say Owo lo'binrin mor!
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by MarketDispatch: 5:49am On Oct 27
Do we call it boldness or disregard of what he preaches in Church?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyNRPpdUJKc
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by JimD(m): 6:43am On Oct 27
muhmeen:
Prophet Israel T. Ford and Pastor Lydia Ford, leaders of LifeWorks Church near Cleveland, Ohio, announced Shakayla Ford as Israel's second wife, framing it as God's will and citing Exodus 21:10.

Lydia herself introduced Shakayla positively to the congregation, and photos show the three posing happily together.

Israel posted on Facebook that the 'one wife only' teaching is unbiblical, while critics cite 1 Timothy 3:2 and traditional Christian emphasis on monogamy from major denominations.

Supporters reference Old Testament examples of polygyny, sparking wide online reactions from shock to defense.


/video/1?t=2
guyman likes them big.
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by Dtruthspeaker: 6:44am On Oct 27
LordLicifer:
Me wey dey club right now dey drink wine with prostitutes grin grin dis one need help. I think you should try smoking some weed like i do, would help resset your head.

Prison wey i be customer for there. Na every week i dey go prison. Prison dey fear pesin?

I might even sleep with ya wife too if i come across her.
Ah! See, God has already answered.
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by Dtruthspeaker: 6:46am On Oct 27
Teymanhenry:
How? When is marrying multiple wives now a sin or when is first wife welcoming and accepting second wife now a sin
Since Deuteronomy 17:17,
Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away::

And by Malachi no Israelite had 2 wives in proof that they got God's Command
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by Dtruthspeaker: 6:49am On Oct 27
erico2k2:
Bro check am how many prophets in the bible get one wife huh?
This one wife thing is not from the bible, its from England
Which prophet had 2 wives ehn?

Not to talk that by Malachi no Israelite had 2 wives
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by itzadorable333: 7:01am On Oct 27
LordLicifer:
Na God made weed naah, no be dem talk say God created everything?
sure
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by femi4: 7:49am On Oct 27
muhmeen:
Prophet Israel T. Ford and Pastor Lydia Ford, leaders of LifeWorks Church near Cleveland, Ohio, announced Shakayla Ford as Israel's second wife, framing it as God's will and citing Exodus 21:10.

Lydia herself introduced Shakayla positively to the congregation, and photos show the three posing happily together.

Israel posted on Facebook that the 'one wife only' teaching is unbiblical, while critics cite 1 Timothy 3:2 and traditional Christian emphasis on monogamy from major denominations.

Supporters reference Old Testament examples of polygyny, sparking wide online reactions from shock to defense.


/video/1?t=2
Absolute nonesense
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by itzadorable333: 8:30am On Oct 27
LordLicifer:
Funny? Cheers! grin I can also be rude sometimes.


Come,you be man or woman? grin because females are ussually very religious
Hehehe androgyne
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by Teymanhenry(m): 9:34am On Oct 27
Dtruthspeaker:
Since Deuteronomy 17:17,
Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away::

And by Malachi no Israelite had 2 wives in proof that they got God's Command
The verse says a king shall not multiply wives, because they may turn his heart away from God. Another version says he shall not take many wives. The point is a warning against having too many wives. But does having two wives automatically mean someone has sinned?

The verse does not explicitly say that having two wives is sinful. It warns about the potential consequences of having many wives and how they could lead someone astray.

Now, let’s look at the same passage. It also warns against accumulating excessive gold and silver. So, does that mean all our General Overseers who have accumulated wealth are sinners too?
And also noted that, the command/counsel is for future King of Israel
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by Kiitanthegod(m): 9:36am On Oct 27
I thought it was a crime to marry more than one wife in America.


So this pastor is committing sin and also misleading the congregation to commit sin. Because the Bible says believers must respect and obey civil laws and governing authorities. 1 Peter 2:13–15
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by Teymanhenry(m): 9:45am On Oct 27
StillDtruth:
It is not Paul who said thou shalt no longer have multiple wives.

Deuteronomy 17:17, Says "Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
Neither shall he multiply wives to himself
, that his heart turn not away::"

And then by Malachi you do not see any Israelite with 2 wives in proof that they understood that God told them to stop polygamy.
Where in Malachi did God explicitly command that no Israelite should marry more than one wife? Quote the verse.

If polygamy was a sin, why did God regulate it without explicitly prohibiting it?

God also warned the Israelites against marrying foreign women (Deuteronomy 7:3–4). Does that mean marrying someone from another country or ethnic group is sinful today?

If we recognise that some commands had specific historical contexts, why can't we apply the same principle when discussing polygamy? Let's interpret Scripture consistently, not selectively.
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by Ecomfreecourse: 10:24am On Oct 27
Chachalogo:
True Christianity has been turned up-side-down.
No religion has ever been true. It's all trap, lies etc
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by LordReed(m): 11:00am On Oct 27
muhmeen:
Prophet Israel T. Ford and Pastor Lydia Ford, leaders of LifeWorks Church near Cleveland, Ohio, announced Shakayla Ford as Israel's second wife, framing it as God's will and citing Exodus 21:10.

Lydia herself introduced Shakayla positively to the congregation, and photos show the three posing happily together.

Israel posted on Facebook that the 'one wife only' teaching is unbiblical, while critics cite 1 Timothy 3:2 and traditional Christian emphasis on monogamy from major denominations.

Supporters reference Old Testament examples of polygyny, sparking wide online reactions from shock to defense.


/video/1?t=2
This is how Mohammed claimed the god told him he can have more wives. LoLz.
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by Dtruthspeaker:
Teymanhenry:
The verse says a king shall not multiply wives, because they may turn his heart away from God. Another version says he shall not take many wives. The point is a warning against having too many wives. But does having two wives automatically mean someone has sinned?

The verse does not explicitly say that having two wives is sinful. It warns about the potential consequences of having many wives and how they could lead someone astray.

* Now, let’s look at the same passage. It also warns against accumulating excessive gold and silver. So, does that mean all our General Overseers who have accumulated wealth are sinners too?
And also noted that, the command/counsel is for future King of Israel
Who shall be a king of Israel or from whom shall God choose a king of Israel?
Answer: Any Israelite man.

And secondly by Malachi and after do you see any Israelite with 2 wives?

No!
Clear proof that they understood that God told them to stop polygamy

And before Malachi Ezra seeing the disobedience of this Law commanded

Ezra 10:3
Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law

So, you see, why it is right for co-adulteresses and their batsard children to be cast out like Haggai and Ishmael. God does not like unlawfulness. Which by Malachi, polygamy was not seen in Israel again. God had completely eradicated it.

* Excessive gold and silver law is The Law prohibiting a king from embezzlement of the common wealth exactly what everyone complains against their presidents and rulers. So you see, The Law covers the wrongs and evils a king can do while in position.
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by Dtruthspeaker: 12:34pm On Oct 27
Ecomfreecourse:
No religion has ever been true. It's all trap, lies etc
Yet no Christianity never told a lie nor has it begged anyone to follow it
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by StillDtruth: 12:58pm On Oct 27
Teymanhenry:
Where in Malachi did God explicitly command that no Israelite should marry more than one wife? Quote the verse.

If polygamy was a sin, why did God regulate it without explicitly prohibiting it?
No where did i say Malachi said God commanded that no Israelite should marry more than one wife. I clearly said that "by Malachi you do not see any Israelite with 2 wives in proof that they understood that God told them to stop polygamy.

And after Malachi you do not see any Israelite with more than 1 wife.
.

Teymanhenry:
God also warned the Israelites against marrying foreign women (Deuteronomy 7:3–4). Does that mean marrying someone from another country or ethnic group is sinful today?
This is departing from the topic but let me remind you that Ezra shows what happened when they did this. And when that happened, see what Ezra did

Ezra 10:3
Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the Law.

So, you see, they understood what God wanted and where they were in breach, they returned back to what they knew God Commanded and what He desired which is monogamy
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by Teymanhenry(m): 1:37pm On Oct 27
Dtruthspeaker:
Who shall be a king of Israel or from whom shall God choose a king of Israel?
Answer: Any Israelite man.

And secondly by Malachi and after do you see any Israelite with 2 wives?

No!
Clear proof that they understood that God told them to stop polygamy

And before Malachi Ezra seeing the disobedience of this Law commanded

Ezra 10:3
Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law

So, you see, why it is right for co-adulteresses and their batsard children to be cast out like Haggai and Ishmael. God does not like unlawfulness. Which by Malachi, polygamy was not seen in Israel again. God had completely eradicated it.

* Excessive gold and silver law is The Law prohibiting a king from embezzlement of the common wealth exactly what everyone complains against their presidents and rulers. So you see, The Law covers the wrongs and evils a king can do while in position.
Very good. You explained the second passage well by considering its context and using common sense. You should apply the same reasoning to the verse warning kings against multiplying wives, which says they could turn their hearts away from God.

The core issue was that Israelite men were divorcing their Israelite wives to marry foreign women who worshipped other gods, similar to the problems addressed in Ezra and Nehemiah. The concern was not simply the women's nationality, but the potential consequences of these marriages for Israel's faithfulness to God.

We should interpret these passages consistently, considering their context rather than applying one verse literally while explaining another away.
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by AngelicBeing: 3:34pm On Oct 27
StillDtruth:
No where did i say Malachi said God commanded that no Israelite should marry more than one wife. I clearly said that "by Malachi you do not see any Israelite with 2 wives in proof that they understood that God told them to stop polygamy.

And after Malachi you do not see any Israelite with more than 1 wife.
.



This is departing from the topic but let me remind you that Ezra shows what happened when they did this. And when that happened, see what Ezra did

Ezra 10:3
Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the Law.

So, you see, they understood what God wanted and where they were in breach, they returned back to what they knew God Commanded and what He desired which is monogamy
tongue
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by Dtruthspeaker: 5:05pm On Oct 27
Teymanhenry:
Very good. You explained the second passage well by considering its context and using common sense. You should apply the same reasoning to the verse warning kings against multiplying wives, which says they could turn their hearts away from God.

The core issue was that Israelite men were divorcing their Israelite wives to marry foreign women who worshipped other gods, similar to the problems addressed in Ezra and Nehemiah. The concern was not simply the women's nationality, but the potential consequences of these marriages for Israel's faithfulness to God.

We should interpret these passages consistently, considering their context rather than applying one verse literally while explaining another away.
The same common sense has been applied on this Deut 17:17 already for i answered you "from whom shall God choose to be king of Israel? Or do you presume that the King of Isreal will drop from the sky?

And you did not address this and hence why your moved post back to Exodus 21:10 where I already explained that they already had multiple wives just like the rest of the pagan world where it is known that if the first wife does not accept the husband marrying a second wife, (which we all know that she can never support if she is free) the husband shall do the additional wickedness of throwing her and the children out and cutting them off from sustenance. Yul edochie's case proves this.

And God never supports wickedness, so since they already had taken multiple wives in Egypt, then this is God in Exodus 21:10 stopping the wickedness that comes out of polygamy. Then in Deuteronomy 17:17 he completely bans polygamy which we see stopped by the time the Bible reaches Malachi were you no longer see any Israelite with more than one wife.
Re: Cleveland Pastors Introduce Second Wife During Church Service by itzadorable333: 6:06pm On Oct 27
Teymanhenry:
The verse says a king shall not multiply wives, because they may turn his heart away from God. Another version says he shall not take many wives. The point is a warning against having too many wives. But does having two wives automatically mean someone has sinned?

The verse does not explicitly say that having two wives is sinful. It warns about the potential consequences of having many wives and how they could lead someone astray.

Now, let’s look at the same passage. It also warns against accumulating excessive gold and silver. So, does that mean all our General Overseers who have accumulated wealth are sinners too?
And also noted that, the command/counsel is for future King of Israel
on point!
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