₦airaland Forum

TemporaryHansel:
Seems you misunderstood. I clearly meant Tinubu policies has led to the creation of more hoes, to the point that even females who used to condemn such lifestyle had no choice but to embrace it due to the effects of Tinubu's policies.

I didn't say hoes started existing in Nigeria in 2023.

They will pretend not to know what you are saying. We have a hoeing pandemic now due to bad economy. An average uneducated girl can’t cope with 50k sales girl job because that money can’t feed her.

It’s so bad that you can confidently say that 70 to 80% of girls you see walking around in Ajah in the afternoon are hoes. Most hairdressers, make up artists, nail techs etc are hoes.

You either hoe or go live in face me I slap you in the trenches because many salary earner can’t afford renting a proper apartment.

Hoes have and will always exist but a tough economy will make more people resort to hoeing and other other economic vices.

nihilistjnr:
The idea that I can be extorted sounds crazy to me sha especially when in my own opinion, I believe I should be the one charging

In English culture, the father of the bride pays dowry to the groom cos he is transferring responsibility. It's only in Bongo we will be feeling we are transferring asset

swiz123:
They will pretend not to know what you are saying. We have a hoeing pandemic now due to bad economy. An average uneducated girl can’t cope with 50k sales girl job because that money can’t feed her.

It’s so bad that you can confidently say that 70 to 80% of girls you see walking around in Ajah in the afternoon are hoes. Most hairdressers, make up artists, nail techs etc are hoes.

You either hoe or go live in face me I slap you in the trenches because many salary earner can’t afford renting a proper apartment.

Just say you weren't outside. Its not in 2026 that hairdressing work stopped being profitable, and it's not in 2026 that sales girls started collecting.

Anybody that's been outside for long knows iya alagbo is likely putting out, alongside Risikatu her daughter.

I was in JSS3 when I discovered a place in Ikeja where one round was 50 bucks. No mattress sef, just indomie carton on the bed frame with bedsheets, and you hang your clothes on a nail in the wall, and after you've finished the 30 year old you've just sampled would be advising you that this life is not for people like you...but only after she's taken your lunch money.

In secondary school, seniors would kpolash juniors, university students would kpolash SS2 girls, etc etc all the way up till after university where girls will join banks and be given impossible target to get if they want to be retained after NYSC.

Social media just allowed new generation hoes to develop insane market reach.

Domitilla and Glamour Girls came out in the mid-nineties

nihilistjnr:
Just say you weren't outside. Its not in 2026 that hairdressing work stopped being profitable, and it's not in 2026 that sales girls started collecting.

Anybody that's been outside for long knows iya alagbo is likely putting out, alongside Risikatu her daughter.

I was in JSS3 when I discovered a place in Ikeja where one round was 50 bucks. No mattress sef, just indomie carton on the bed frame with bedsheets, and you hang your clothes on a nail in the wall, and after you've finished the 30 year old you've just sampled would be advising you that this life is not for people like you...but only after she's taken your lunch money.

In secondary school, seniors would kpolash juniors, university students would kpolash SS2 girls, etc etc all the way up till after university where girls will join banks and be given impossible target to get if they want to be retained after NYSC.

Social media just allowed new generation hoes to develop insane market reach.

Domitilla and Glamour Girls came out in the mid-nineties

Lol, wicked takes...... U don come again.
The domitila line is the closer for me.

I've always looked twice at any lady bearing domitila since then...

nihilistjnr:
Just say you weren't outside. Its not in 2026 that hairdressing work stopped being profitable, and it's not in 2026 that sales girls started collecting.

Anybody that's been outside for long knows iya alagbo is likely putting out, alongside Risikatu her daughter.

I was in JSS3 when I discovered a place in Ikeja where one round was 50 bucks. No mattress sef, just indomie carton on the bed frame with bedsheets, and you hang your clothes on a nail in the wall, and after you've finished the 30 year old you've just sampled would be advising you that this life is not for people like you...but only after she's taken your lunch money.

In secondary school, seniors would kpolash juniors, university students would kpolash SS2 girls, etc etc all the way up till after university where girls will join banks and be given impossible target to get if they want to be retained after NYSC.

Social media just allowed new generation hoes to develop insane market reach.

Domitilla and Glamour Girls came out in the mid-nineties

Guy. A friend's mother who went to Uni jn the late 70s and early 80s was telling us that rich men used to fly undergrads abroad in those days as well. That Beirut used to be the Dubai of now that baddies were flown to.

If you get small change, women go flock around you whether its 1970 1900 or 2026.

Fela was having live orgies with women in public. He married 27 in one day when Tinubu was still an undergrad in America

Allen Avenue, Ayilara Empire, Ipodo, Akin Adesola, all became notorious okpo joints as far as the 80s maybe earlier

Today small boys wey no get money still do not have access to hoes just like it was in 1990. And big biys who have money had access to women just like in the days of yore

Most female centered blue collar work has age long been known to be location for low budget nacks from hairdresser to sales girl to restaurant/beer parlor girls to seamstress etc

Some of our mates go dey chat say youths of nowadays are bad. I tell them that they should thank God that their teenage shenanigans were not broadcasted on life internet.
There were JS3 girls getting pregnant and dropping out, some news of aborted fetus in female hostels, some secondary school girls who will leave hostel and go live with boyfriends out of school, never mind the numbers dating teachers

The inter school violence, sexual deviance of the 80s and 90s were no jokes.
Some of the youngin of today will never survive a typical 90s environment. The only thing that I can admit have gone worse is access to internet and the vices that comes with it plus more varieties of drugs beyond Igbo

swiz123:
They will pretend not to know what you are saying. We have a hoeing pandemic now due to bad economy. An average uneducated girl can’t cope with 50k sales girl job because that money can’t feed her.

It’s so bad that you can confidently say that 70 to 80% of girls you see walking around in Ajah in the afternoon are hoes. Most hairdressers, make up artists, nail techs etc are hoes.

You either hoe or go live in face me I slap you in the trenches because many salary earner can’t afford renting a proper apartment.

Thank you bro. People like Raumdeuter will gaslight you to make you like you're crazy.

@Theflint1 exactly bro you get it.

People resident in Nigeria would agree with me that the level of hoeflation and hookup culture in the country right now is at a historical levels compared to before this current administration.

Ladies that would've slapped any seer that dared to prophecy to them 5 years ago that they'll be doing hookup or fvcking any man ready to spend a little on her are now proudly doing it.

The level of hoeing/pr*stitution in the country right now is at an astronomical level.

Morality is now a thing of the past in the present Nigeria thanks to this Tinubu administration.

Although, I have to admit that I expected Raumdeuter's response, I was only surprised by Nihilist's response/conclusion.

Anyways, no matter what the apologists of this administration say it is clear the policies of this administration have driven more females into nasty stuffs than previous admins. Anyone not arguing for agenda knows this.

Theflint1:
Hoes have and will always exist but a tough economy will make more people resort to hoeing and other other economic vices.

Story for the gods

How come your ideology of a tough economy is not affecting those paying?

A tough economy pushes more people to hoeing, but it's not affecting the demand?

Who wan do am go do am. That one no concern economy

TemporaryHansel:
Thank you bro. People like Ramdeuter will gaslight you to make you like you're crazy.

@Theflint1 exactly bro you get it.

People resident in Nigeria would agree with me that the level of hoeflation and hookup culture in the country right now is at a historical levels compared to before this current administration.

Ladies that would've slapped any seer that dared to prophecy to them 5 years ago that they'll be doing hookup or fvcking any man ready to spend a little on her are now proudly doing it.

The level of hoeing/pr*stitution in the country right now is at an astronomical level.

Morality is now a thing of the past in the present Nigeria thanks to this Tinubu administration.

Although, I have to admit that I expected Ramdeuter's response, I was only surprised by Nihilist's response/conclusion.

Anyways, no matter what the apologists of this administration say it is clear the policies of this administration have driven more females into nasty stuffs than previous admins. Anyone not arguing for agenda knows this.

Let me ask. How old were you in those days you are talking about? Were you in the hoes market in those days?

If you were of age and had the resources. Hoes have always been available the only difference is that internet made it accessible for all

For example in Egbeda I wont know of the How in Ikeja unless she is hanging by the roadside when I visit her location

Now from America I can know of the hoe in Calabar inside her school hostel and set appointments with her

When you are not in the game its easier for you to claim one thing

Same way you will say 90s economy were easier or better. Yet many Nigerians couldn't afford to build a house or buy cars in those easy years. Ask your old man if it was easy and let him tell you about his struggles those years, how people were making discoveries of how to use saw dust cook, how to turn cassava and yam peeling into edibles, how soy beans became a substitute for proteins, how half a slice of fish was standard or dice shaped meat were the thing, how rice eating was basically a Sunday affair, not even polished rice stone local rice etc

izzou:
Story for the gods

How come your ideology of a tough economy is not affecting those paying?

A tough economy pushes more people to hoeing, but it's not affecting the demand?

Who wan do am go do am. That one no concern economy

Tinubu economy dey send male buyers special alerts every month but was denying women

To answer your question. Internet has opened the eyes of everyone to luxury life and items. An undergraduate girl living in Abeokuta is dreaming of using the latest iPhone, going on vacation in Maldives, even driving a Lamborghini things people with 30yrs work experience cannot dream of. In 1995 how many girls knew of these items existence but now an average 25yr old wants to carry an Hermes purse that only stars used to carry

raumdeuter:
Tinubu economy dey send male buyers special alerts every month but was denying women

To answer your question. Internet has opened the eyes of everyone to luxury life and items. An undergraduate girl living in Abeokuta is dreaming of using the latest iPhone, going on vacation in Maldives, even driving a Lamborghini things people with 30yrs work experience cannot dream of. In 1995 how many girls knew of these items existence but now an average 25yr old wants to carry an Hermes purse that only stars used to carry

Exactly.

This stream of income became accessible to more people.

Gone are the days when you need to stand at Allen to get customers. It has very little to do with a tough economy.

izzou:
Story for the gods

How come your ideology of a tough economy is not affecting those paying?

A tough economy pushes more people to hoeing, but it's not affecting the demand?

Who wan do am go do am. That one no concern economy

Nice @ bolded, this is exactly how an economist would think.

I'ld also like to point out that like most commodities, prostitution is driven by economic demand, not just supply. The flaw with their argument is that there is a corresponding willingness and ability of buyers to pay for it.

TemporaryHansel:
Thank you bro. People like Raumdeuter will gaslight you to make you like you're crazy.

@Theflint1 exactly bro you get it.

People resident in Nigeria would agree with me that the level of hoeflation and hookup culture in the country right now is at a historical levels compared to before this current administration.

Ladies that would've slapped any seer that dared to prophecy to them 5 years ago that they'll be doing hookup or fvcking any man ready to spend a little on her are now proudly doing it.

The level of hoeing/pr*stitution in the country right now is at an astronomical level.

Morality is now a thing of the past in the present Nigeria thanks to this Tinubu administration.

Although, I have to admit that I expected Raumdeuter's response, I was only surprised by Nihilist's response/conclusion.

Anyways, no matter what the apologists of this administration say it is clear the policies of this administration have driven more females into nasty stuffs than previous admins. Anyone not arguing for agenda knows this.

It is true that there have always been hoes and that the proliferation of social media makes it seem like the number of hoes has increased.

The truth, however, is that the number of hoes has more than tripled, and the tanking economy is a huge contributing factor.

Even wives now go on Bigo Live, for example, to damn the consequences and sell their n**es and shit on their husbands.

GrammarNazi1:
It is true that there have always been hoes and that the proliferation of social media makes it seem like the number of hoes has increased.

The truth, however, is that the number of hoes has more than tripled, and the tanking economy is a huge contributing factor.

Even wives now go on Bigo Live, for example, to damn the consequences and sell their n**es and shit on their husbands.

A better way to counter the bolded argument will be at what price levels? Surely with this much supply, Equilibrium price of hoeing should ideally drop.

Are these prostitutes actually getting cheaper?, cos all dem odogwu I keep seeing on SM these days makes me think otherwise.

GrammarNazi1:
It is true that there have always been hoes and that the proliferation of social media makes it seem like the number of hoes has increased.

The truth, however, is that the number of hoes has more than tripled, and the tanking economy is a huge contributing factor.

Even wives now go on Bigo Live, for example, to damn the consequences and sell their n**es and shit on their husbands.

You're making my point for me. Was there a way to sell these pics realistically just 10 years ago?

The same way as a child, the only way to see ex-rated was to go to a video club, as a teenager was to buy VCD, then the hub arrived...and now I could watch for free but even at that it was only professionals. The girls have to work in LA and that's how the big names in that industry became big, because only a few people were willing and able to risk it all to do it.

Then OF came, and all of a sudden girls could sell market online, but how do you advertise the market so that people can find you. You couldn't really sell market on Facebook or MySpace those days because of the connection system in place.

Then twitter and insta came out where you didn't need to connect to the people you wanted to advertise to, and that's why X and Insta are now the primary pipeline for those selling market.

It has nothing to do with economy. It has more to do with advertising reach on social media, and the fact that goes can sell the same video of them getting piped out on one occasion to thousands of customers.

There's a relatively famous actress in Nollywood today whose mum ran a popular beer parlour in Abule-egba where my dad's house is. The mum is late now, but the daughter was a FAMOUS okpo locally well before she became an actress. I may have even partaken, who knows?

From what I see on social media she's still about that life, but on a bigger scale, with customers she could never have reached without SM.

User09:
A better way to counter the bolded argument will be at what price levels? Surely with this much supply, Equilibrium price of hoeing should ideally drop.

Are these prostitutes actually getting cheaper?, cos all dem odogwu I keep seeing on SM these days makes me think otherwise.

If I understand your argument, I would say that even though I think that the number of hoes has more than tripled, the price of hoes has not decreased, and this is because the economy is in a shambles, so instead of the price of a surplus commodity to plummet, the price is rather going up.

GrammarNazi1:
If I understand your argument, I would say that even though I think that the number of hoes has more than tripled, the price of hoes has not decreased, and this is because the economy is in a shambles, so instead of the price of a surplus commodity to plummet, the price is rather going up.

Touche!!

One slight correction however, It's not a pointer to the economy being in shambles if the price points arent affected

except of course there are actual pointers to the price going down which I may not be aware of

nihilistjnr:
Just say you weren't outside. The only thing that's changed is social media hoéinnng and that's a global phenomenon.

The social media hoeing actually created more of them...and convinced the ones sitting on the fence that it is cool to live that life.

nihilistjnr:
You're making my point for me. Was there a way to sell these pics realistically just 10 years ago?

The same way as a child, the only way to see ex-rated was to go to a video club, as a teenager was to buy VCD, then the hub arrived...and now I could watch for free but even at that it was only professionals. The girls have to work in LA and that's how the big names in that industry became big, because only a few people were willing and able to risk it all to do it.

Then OF came, and all of a sudden girls could sell market online, but how do you advertise the market so that people can find you. You couldn't really sell market on Facebook or MySpace those days because of the connection system in place.

Then twitter and insta came out where you didn't need to connect to the people you wanted to advertise to, and that's why X and Insta are now the primary pipeline for those selling market.

It has nothing to do with economy. It has more to do with advertising reach on social media, and the fact that goes can sell the same video of them getting piped out on one occasion to thousands of customers.

There's a relatively famous actress in Nollywood today whose mum ran a popular beer parlour in Abule-egba where my dad's house is. The mum is late now, but the daughter was a FAMOUS okpo locally well before she became an actress. I may have even partaken, who knows?

From what I see on social media she's still about that life, but on a bigger scale, with customers she could never have reached without SM.

Actually, I ain't disputing your argument, but it is also true that if the economy was not in a shambles, a fewer number of hoes would be around, despite the ease engendered by the availability of marketplaces.

Semid4lyfe looks like some of my posts dry get people banned by spambot can you help unban the affected posts and posters

There are no easy answers sha...every side has a valid argument.

But if one looks at sex work as being more than just women standing by the road side, and more about what economic desperation could push people to do, then it's easy to see how a bad economy can increase the supply of women engaged and willing to engage in some form of sex for reward type p.

Think of it in terms of a country in war (Nigeria is sort of in war and the economy is in shambles), and how that situation can cause women that normally aren't h0es to engage in some form of sex for survival tactics...I think this is the angle temporaryhansel was speaking from.

TemporaryHansel:
Thank you bro. People like Raumdeuter will gaslight you to make you like you're crazy.

@Theflint1 exactly bro you get it.

People resident in Nigeria would agree with me that the level of hoeflation and hookup culture in the country right now is at a historical levels compared to before this current administration.

Ladies that would've slapped any seer that dared to prophecy to them 5 years ago that they'll be doing hookup or fvcking any man ready to spend a little on her are now proudly doing it.

The level of hoeing/pr*stitution in the country right now is at an astronomical level.

Morality is now a thing of the past in the present Nigeria thanks to this Tinubu administration.

Although, I have to admit that I expected Raumdeuter's response, I was only surprised by Nihilist's response/conclusion.

Anyways, no matter what the apologists of this administration say it is clear the policies of this administration have driven more females into nasty stuffs than previous admins. Anyone not arguing for agenda knows this.

Well said.

Theflint1:
There are no easy answers sha...every side has a valid argument.

But if one looks at sex work as being more than just women standing by the road side, and more about what economic desperation could push people to do, then it's easy to see how a bad economy can increase the supply of women engaged and willing to engage in some form of sex for reward type p.

Think of it in terms of a country in war (Nigeria is sort of in war and the economy is in shambles), and how that situation can cause women that normally aren't h0es to engage in some form of sex for survival tactics...I think this is the angle temporaryhansel was speaking from.

I knew chicks from comfortable homes doing runs in uni in the 90s. It is not always about economic desperation, but as raum has said about greed or wanting more. Ironically or maybe not so, some of those runs babes have now done exceedingly well for themselves.

GloriousGbola:
I knew chicks from comfortable homes doing runs in uni in the 90s. It is not always about economic desperation, but as raum has said about greed or wanting more. Ironically or maybe not so, some of those runs babes have now done exceedingly well for themselves.

Toooooooo True!
There are also a class of them who ]have always been well to do but enjoy a risque lifestyle.

Theflint1:
There are no easy answers sha...every side has a valid argument.

But if one looks at sex work as being more than just women standing by the road side, and more about what economic desperation could push people to do, then it's easy to see how a bad economy can increase the supply of women engaged and willing to engage in some form of sex for reward type p.

Think of it in terms of a country in war (Nigeria is sort of in war and the economy is in shambles), and how that situation can cause women that normally aren't h0es to engage in some form of sex for survival tactics...I think this is the angle temporaryhansel was speaking from.

If you look at it from economics. Is sex work driven by mostly demands or supply?

I will say it's mainly demand . As long as there is demand, supply will find its way out

For example a tiny carribean island of less than 5m people means the number of females between ages of 15 to 40. Prime okpo age might be like 500k yet passport bros bombard the place in thousands every week turning even the docile females there into hoes.

So if the demand is what drives the business. Next question will be why is the wat economy not affecting the demand since they are still able to afford it

Almost every country in the world will say hookup culture has increased and its mostly due to access to SM not because Tinubu is ruling them all

GloriousGbola:
I knew chicks from comfortable homes doing runs in uni in the 90s. It is not always about economic desperation, but as raum has said about greed or wanting more. Ironically or maybe not so, some of those runs babes have now done exceedingly well for themselves.

There is a supply of h0es that get in for the love of the game and/or greed, and there's those that get in the game due to hardship.

We speak about the latter...they're a major part of the general h0e supply, and the harder the economy, the more of them get into the game.

Theflint1:
There is a supply of h0es that get in for the love of the game and/or greed, and there's those that get in the game due to hardship.

We speak about the latter...they're a major part of the general h0e supply, and the harder the economy, the more of them get into the game.

Your argument is flawed if you take into consideration the fact that the demand has increased

How can a tough economy push people into hoeing (to make money), and at the same time push men to pricing hoes (to spend money)?

izzou:
Your argument is flawed if you take into consideration the fact that the demand has increased

How can a tough economy push people into hoeing (to make money), and at the same time push men to pricing hoes (to spend money)?

I don't know about demand increasing sha...

User09:
Nice @ bolded, this is exactly how an economist would think.

I'ld also like to point out that like most commodities, prostitution is driven by economic demand, not just supply. The flaw with their argument is that there is a corresponding willingness and ability of buyers to pay for it.

Another angle.

If we see more people in hoeing, we should see less people spending, since it's a tough economy.

I agree that the demand rose over time. Also, the entry requirement easier. You can be an OS from the comfort of your bed