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Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Krasid(m): 11:53am On Oct 06, 2014
ddippset:
you want to start rolling out numbers? for a start, i want to see 5 goals in a match!
I don't see any reason to start rolling out stats, it is clear that they will be no outright winner as both have their various records.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Krasid(m): 12:00pm On Oct 06, 2014
ddippset:
scores this much? what much? it's not like he's scored 50 league goals in the season, or scored 73 goals in total in the season or scored 91 goals in the 2014 we are talking about. scores what much do you mean?
We are talking now, you are talking two/three seasons ago.The earlier you accept that messi has dipped in form, the better for you and other barcelona fans.I watched barca's last game against rayo and saw how he was squandering chances.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by ddippset(m): 12:05pm On Oct 06, 2014
Krasid:
I don't see any reason to start rolling out stats, it is clear that they will be no outright winner as both have their various records.
records are so many, maybe 1000 but let's just be honest for a second; 1.what is the greatest individual honour a footballer can win? - the fifa world player of the year. 2.what is the greatest honour a footballer can win for club? - the league title and the champions league 3.what is the greatest honour a footballer can win for country? -the world cup and the nations cup. 4.what is the greatest goal scoring honour a footballer can have for club? -the total number of goals scored in the entire season.5. what is the greatest goal honour a footballer can have for country? - the number of goals scored in a fifa world cup. we cannot start pointing out records here and there, there are over 1000 records to bring up. iam sure you would agree with me that these few ones are the basic indicators to the greatness of a footballer.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by ddippset(m): 12:12pm On Oct 06, 2014
Krasid:
We are talking now, you are talking two/three seasons ago.The earlier you accept that messi has dipped in form, the better for you and other barcelona fans.I watched barca's last game against rayo and saw how he was squandering chances.
now? now means when? if i have no right to talk about 2 seasons ago then you have no right to talk about what happened 10 months ago either, or even 4 months ago. that is not now! so talking about now; ronaldo having more goals than messi doesnt make him better than messi today. messi's goals and assists have kept barca at the top of la liga.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Krasid(m): 12:19pm On Oct 06, 2014
ddippset:
now? now means when? if i have no right to talk about 2 seasons ago then you have no right to talk about what happened 10 months ago either, or even 4 months ago. that is not now! so talking about now; ronaldo having more goals than messi doesnt make him better than messi today. messi's goals and assists have kept barca at the top of la liga.
The entire barcelona team have kept barca on top(from GK to attack), not messi.If you don't want to agree that Ronaldo is better than messi right now, then that is your problem not mine.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by ddippset(m): 12:24pm On Oct 06, 2014
Krasid:
The entire barcelona team have kept barca on top(from GK to attack), not messi.If you don't want to agree that Ronaldo is better than messi right now, then that is your problem not mine.
lol. the entire real madrid contributed to ronaldo's goals as well. ronaldo does not defend by himself, pass to himself and score by himslef! makes sense doesnt it? surely it does. and by the way; if scoring more goals than messi (with so may penalties and tap ins), naturally means that ronaldo is better than messi in your opinion, then all i can do is leave you alone to wallow in your ignorance. so long.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Iaz93: 12:45pm On Oct 06, 2014
Krasid:
When will Messi score 17 in the UCL?

When he is in jail for tax evasion?
LMAO grin grin grin grin grin

La Midget is gonna break the record in jail. grin When they play all prison's competition.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Iaz93: 12:51pm On Oct 06, 2014
According to Josep Sepp Blatter, the deadline for voting was extended because so many of the people that were expected to vote didn't vote. Turn out was poor.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by barackohandso(m): 1:27pm On Oct 06, 2014
Iaz93:
According to Josep Sepp Blatter, the deadline for voting was extended because so many of the people that were expected to vote didn't vote. Turn out was poor.
It's all about convenience
We choose what we want to believe
It doesn't matter anymore now does it?
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by mcfarlin(m): 1:49pm On Oct 06, 2014
ddippset:
messi finished? with 39 goals in 49? just because ronaldo scored more than he did? what are the 5 individual awards for ronaldo? lol. am sure you included goal.com award, lol. 4 world cup man of match awards, world cup silver medal, world cup golden ball, and 39 goals in 49 appearances with numerous assists is what you call finished? and then new competitor for ronaldo? when ronaldo hasnt even won 4 ballon dors, 5 league titles, 3 champions league titles, 5 la liga best player awards and never played in any world cup final? new competitor for someone who is yet to match messi's achievements in football? bros you are really ridiculous.
Ninja u didn't need to quote me.


Make an independent comment of your own.

Its a free world.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by mcfarlin(m): 2:02pm On Oct 06, 2014
Iaz93:
Easy, dude. Don't kill yourself. Before they say someone died of HBP in Madrid's fan thread. Go and rant in your own thread. Pffffffffft!

Chai! That statz pain you oh... LMAO grin grin grin
Why e no go pain am

Its obvious he's a barca fan


But ronaldo dey craze oh!!!

He wan kill people with heart attack??

6 games 13 goals.

That craaaaaazy.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by usbcable(op): 2:21pm On Oct 06, 2014
Ronaldo with yesterday's hatrick equalled Di Stefano and Zelmo's record of laliga hatricks.

Ronaldo making records since 200BC.

grin
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by usbcable(op): 2:26pm On Oct 06, 2014
@Iaz, Krasid and mcfarlin
By the Lord of the Heavens and the Earth you will not win any argument with the greatest Knight of Messi on NL aka ddippset.

ddipp my paddy
no vex say them mention messi name.
forgive them their trespasses jare.

BTW
how is he preparing for the tax fraud case. undecided
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by ddippset(m): 2:58pm On Oct 06, 2014
usbcable:
@Iaz, Krasid and mcfarlin
By the Lord of the Heavens and the Earth you will not win any argument with the greatest Knight of Messi on NL aka ddippset.

ddipp my paddy
no vex say them mention messi name.
forgive them their trespasses jare.

BTW
how is he preparing for the tax fraud case. undecided
you would never stop saying that would you? call me whatever you will, knight and so on. funny thing is that my argument here, before and tomorrow are always intelligent and based on facts and figures but at the end of the day people just cannot prove that ronaldo is greater than messi. they have no facts and figures to prove it. they end up always coming up with innuendos like 'find another competitor for messi', 'messi is finished', 'messi is useless without xavi and iniesta', etc etc. i mean what kind of person debates like that?
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by mcfarlin(m): 3:27pm On Oct 06, 2014
usbcable:
@Iaz, Krasid and mcfarlin
By the Lord of the Heavens and the Earth you will not win any argument with the greatest Knight of Messi on NL aka ddippset.

ddipp my paddy
no vex say them mention messi name.
forgive them their trespasses jare.

BTW
how is he preparing for the tax fraud case. undecided
He is from another planet so he doesn't have to pay cheesy

By the way can someone remind that midget he's on earth and has to pay taxes....even with his supposed extraterrestrial status? :-
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by Iaz93: 4:29pm On Oct 06, 2014
mcfarlin:
He is from another planet so he doesn't have to pay cheesy

By the way can someone remind that midget he's on earth and has to pay taxes....even with his supposed extraterrestrial status? :-
Kai! This guy is wicked! grin grin grin grin
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by usbcable(op): 5:19pm On Oct 06, 2014
ddippset:
you would never stop saying that would you? call me whatever you will, knight and so on. funny thing is that my argument here, before and tomorrow are always intelligent and based on facts and figures but at the end of the day people just cannot prove that ronaldo is greater than messi. they have no facts and figures to prove it. they end up always coming up with innuendos like 'find another competitor for messi', 'messi is finished', 'messi is useless without xavi and iniesta', etc etc. i mean what kind of person debates like that?
in all sincerity you are very intelligent.
walahi.
its just amazing the zeal you put into defending leo.
it quite impressive.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by usbcable(op): 5:20pm On Oct 06, 2014
mcfarlin:
He is from another planet so he doesn't have to pay cheesy
By the way can someone remind that midget he's on earth and has to pay taxes....even with his supposed extraterrestrial status? :-
Iaz93:
Kai! This guy is wicked! grin grin grin grin
lwkmd
grin
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by raumdeuter: 6:32pm On Oct 06, 2014
barackohandso:
Lol

Make Valencia come. We go use seniority for them

Atleti have changed a little this season though, they looked vulnerable
barackohandso:
Of course they're struggling. If your definition of struggling is beating Real madrid twice already, and winning the super cup, then I love that kind of struggles. You always tend to overlook the positives.
The same person arguing that Atletico isnt struggling this season, Is now telling us 6 days later they look vulnerable

This is what happens when you have no genuine idea of your own and you just follow follow anyones opinion
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by coded01:
Why compare any player with Baba? angry


Mention any player that is marked by every player on the field including the goal keeper like this! tongue


Unfortunately, una dey argue about person wey 4 in mind he wish he be like "Baba"... grin

Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by barackohandso(m): 7:08pm On Oct 06, 2014
raumdeuter:
The same person arguing that Atletico isnt struggling this season, Is now telling us 6 days later they look vulnerable

This is what happens when you have no genuine idea of your own and you just follow follow anyones opinion
Haba. You can quote person out of context sha

You said Atleti would struggle this season just because they lost a match in the UCL group stage, without giving them enough praise for winning the league last season. Every problem in Spain is always caused by Barca and Real madrid to you (and a whole lot)

raumdeuter:
So whats the big deal with winning one season?
How sustainable is it? for over 10yrs a club not
named Barca or Madrid(who make the chunk of the money) couldnt win the league.
Deportivo that won the La Liga sometime back
were in relegation for several yrs recently
Atletico Madrid won the league and their financial
situation is still so terrible that they have to sell all
their key players because Barcelona takes all the
money
You made this statement all in a bid to not credit Atleti for breaking the Barca/Real la liga jinx


I guess the truth hurts. On every thread you go to defend the BuLi, you get criticism for the monopoly your club is currently enjoying over other clubs in the league. Even Matt Hummels said it not long ago, yet you keep shying away from the truth
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by usbcable(op): 7:09pm On Oct 06, 2014
coded01:
Why compare any player to Baba? angry


Mention any player that is marked by every player on the field including the goal keeper like this! tongue


Unfortunately, una dey argue about person wey 4 in mind he wish he be like "Baba"... grin
ogbeni yoi sha wan burn pessins precious browsing MB witg this your cropped pictures.

baba ko abija ni.
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by raumdeuter: 7:43pm On Oct 06, 2014
barackohandso:
Haba. You can quote person out of context sha

You said Atleti would struggle this season just because they lost a match in the UCL group stage, without giving them enough praise for winning the league last season. Every problem in Spain is always caused by Barca and Real madrid to you (and a whole lot)
This is what happens when one becomes a certified follow follow without understanding the context and jump ball hugging every opinion against Bundesliga. The same coogar you are nughuging wont hesitate to disgrace your la liga

My statement is below

raumdeuter:
Judging? Does it take much to see that Atletico would struggle this season when they have to sell their best players, definitely the new players would need time to settle in and lose momentum.

Money helps to win consistently. When Barca takes all the money and leave others with crumb that means they would suffer. The league winners cant even pay 37% of their bills so how would they consistently remain competitive.

Atletico bought a striker who was deemed surplus to requirement at Bayern, They would have preferred to keep Costa but since you guys have all the money, they cant.

The problems most La Liga teams have is that Barca takes a hge chunk of the money and they have to feed on crumbs. If Barca is playing fairly the league winners wont be earning 100m less than the 3rd placed team
WHich you replied that they are not struggling

6 days later saying they "look vulnerable"

Next time have your own mind and dont depend on others or popular opinion to make it for you
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by raumdeuter: 7:47pm On Oct 06, 2014
barackohandso:
I guess the truth hurts. On every thread you go to defend the BuLi, you get criticism for the monopoly your club is currently enjoying over other clubs in the league. Even Matt Hummels said it not long ago, yet you keep shying away from the truth
You know the drill, Oya explain what you mean by this statement quoted. I can guarantee you within the next 1 hr you would have run away after being shown the folly of your statement again


Can you take up my challenge and explain what you mean by monopoly my club enjoys?
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by SIRcumalot: 7:51pm On Oct 06, 2014
Hazard.

Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by SIRcumalot: 7:53pm On Oct 06, 2014
Gotze.

Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by raumdeuter: 7:59pm On Oct 06, 2014
I am sure if you are asked to explain what you just posted now you wont come up with a concrete explanation
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by SIRcumalot: 8:03pm On Oct 06, 2014
Wrong thread apologies madrid fans
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by barackohandso(m): 8:16pm On Oct 06, 2014
raumdeuter:
This is what happens when one becomes a certified follow follow without understanding the context and jump ball hugging every opinion against Bundesliga. The same coogar you are nughuging wont hesitate to disgrace your la liga

My statement is below



WHich you replied that they are not struggling

6 days later saying they "look vulnerable"

Next time have your own mind and dont depend on others or popular opinion to make it for you
Follow follow you say? grin I can only laugh at that

My opinions stands. My point 6 days ago was that you're judging Atleti already even though it's still early days in the season, just because they lost to Olympiakos, and yes I said they looked vulnerable 6 days later cos even though they lost matches last season, it wasn't in the manner in which they lost to Valencia, which was the context under which I made my new statement before you immediately quoted me trying to compare both words directly.
More so, a lot can change in 6 hours let alone 6 days

I'm not a fan of Atleti, so it'll be good for Barca if they struggle. I just don't judge after 1 match like you do

As important as stats are, I judge by what I see in the present and it's more than glaring that the Bundesliga is a one team league
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by barackohandso(m): 8:24pm On Oct 06, 2014
raumdeuter:
You know the drill, Oya explain what you mean by this statement quoted. I can guarantee you within the next 1 hr you would have run away after being shown the folly of your statement again


Can you take up my challenge and explain what you mean by monopoly my club enjoys?
Well, with you it's how you choose to interpret it cos it's a direct enough statement. So yeah I know the drill

For the past 2 seasons now, Bayern munchen have won the league with an average of 20point gap over the 2nd placed team, and for an elite league, it's a sorry case
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by raumdeuter: 8:29pm On Oct 06, 2014
barackohandso:
Follow follow you say? grin I can only laugh at that

My opinions stands. My point 6 days ago was that you're judging Atleti already even though it's still early days in the season, just because they lost to Olympiakos, and yes I said they looked vulnerable 6 days later cos even though they lost matches last season, it wasn't in the manner in which they lost to Valencia, which was the context under which I made my new statement before you immediately quoted me trying to compare both words directly.
More so, a lot can change in 6 hours let alone 6 days

I'm not a fan of Atleti, so it'll be good for Barca if they struggle. I just don't judge after 1 match like you do

As important as stats are, I judge by what I see in the present and it's more than glaring that the Bundesliga is a one team league
Astute analysts have already seen Atletico team and predicted they would struggle already which you denied 7 days ago.

Now a week later now agreeing they would struggle. Thats the difference between those who know and those who follow and kowtow any opinion

Atleti might get it together later in the season but when they change their team like they did they would struggle. They change their team not because they wanted to, but because Barcelona has cannibalised the league so much that they cant even pay their bills
Re: R36L Madrid - Most Successful & Greatest Champ15ns of Spain, Europe & W9rld by usbcable(op): 8:41pm On Oct 06, 2014
what is the point here
is it that Atleti is a shadow of the champions of last season
or
Atleti is just having a run of bad form
or feom the last comment above Atletico is starved of funds?
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