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Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by Dmano: 3:04pm On Oct 11, 2014
As a little boy i did not know dat buhari was d head of state bcus i only hear of Idiagbon little wonder when idiagbon travel 2 mecca buhari was capture like chiken,in any case if boko boys were succeded in killing him u mean apc will not have candidate,so long as apc restrict themselves 2 these 2 local champiom,i'll stick with gej 2 finished dis electricity i have seen him doing better. Buhari should support a younger person afterall in 2011 he was not going 2 run again or is he not d man of word again?
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by juman(m): 3:13pm On Oct 11, 2014
What's an irony !!!

Obj that forced a very sick man on the nation.

A clueless navigator.
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by Nobody: 3:20pm On Oct 11, 2014
major466:
Is stealing itself not a crime?
Those of you twisting and accusing the President of saying Stealing is not Corruption are mischievous.

By the way what is corruption?

This is the definition of Corruption by the English Dictionary:
The act of corrupting or of impairing integrity, virtue, or moral principle; the state of being corrupted or debased; loss of purity or integrity; depravity; wickedness; impurity; bribery.



From the definition you will notice that the word corruption is simply a word that defines any actions or activity that is frown at by the society. The word corruption is a collection of illegal activities liable for punishment by the court of law.
To sum it all up, 'Corruption' is another word for 'Criminality'.
What are criminal acts?
Criminal acts are illegal activities that are also liable for punishment by the court of law. Thievery, Armed Robbery, Murder etc are all acts of Criminality. If any individual commits any of the above he/she is liable to be tried based on the crime the individual commits by the law.
Example, in the court of law an individual who commits acts of Armed Robbery for instance is charged with a count act of 'Armed Robbery'. Why can the individual be charged with criminality? Because criminality is a verb. It doesn't define the act. You can't charge someone who commits armed robbery with criminality. Imagine hearing on tv that an individual was charged with criminality. It doesn't make any sense. Criminality does not defines the act. Armed Robbery on the other hand defines adequately the act the 'individual' committed, hence appropriate punishment served upon conviction.

Same applies to corruption. What are acts of Corruption? Embezzlement = stealing of Public funds, Over Invoicing, Bribery etc. Now if you want to charge someone to court who, say embezzle public fund, would you charge him/her for committing corruption? Does that defines the act? Of course not. The individual would be charged for acts of embezzlement. Why the word embezzlement? Because it adequately defines the act committed by the individual.
Now you see what the President meant?
Embezzlement = Stealing (Taking something that belongs to someone else without their permission). Is stealing a crime? Yes it is! Anyone who Embezzle public fund is a Thief. That's the message the President was trying to put across to Nigerians but some of you tried so hard to twist it and make it sound like he's condoning corruption.
It's high time Nigerians start defining people by their acts and actions and not just vainly using the word Corruption.
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I dont even knw wia to start insulting your ignorance sir!! You must be a thief yourself sir!! An hardened one at that sir!
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You said corruption is lack of integrity abi? So say u were given 1000naira to give alms to five beggars, and instead of 200naira each, u gave them 100naira each. What do you call that act sir?? Hm? Its a question i want you to answer pls.
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by major466(m): 3:28pm On Oct 11, 2014
mobolaji88:
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I dont even knw wia to start insulting your ignorance sir!! You must be a thief yourself sir!! An hardened one at that sir!
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You said corruption is lack of integrity abi? So say u were given 1000naira to give alms to five beggars, and instead of 200naira each, u gave them 100naira each. What do you call that act sir?? Hm? Its a question i want you to answer pls.
Have you not read were I said according to the English Dictionary? That's were I got the definition. Besides corruption has many definition. So are dictionaries. I use an English Dictionary.
Go find your dictionary and search for the meaning yourself.
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by holax:
Is he planning to join apc
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by Doctorbrains01(m): 3:34pm On Oct 11, 2014
Either Buhari or Atiku,APC can't win.Dey need correct flag bearer if dey wan defeat oga Jhona
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by PStacks(m): 3:36pm On Oct 11, 2014
C canverssing mehn! This mua'zu guy is a canvasser..

They said Obj was no longer relevant in nigerian politics, now they are eating their words..

PDP should forget it..
Mark my Words.. Obasanjo "NEVER" Forgives..

Obj will never forgive Jonathan just as he will never forgive Atiku.. Altho he won't for give Atiku, he would Back the APC against Jonathan.. That's the Simple Maths..

Baba, you are Too much..
Old Soldier Never Die..
Baba no Regret.
Balogun of Owu..
Ebora of Otta.
Baba Nigeria..
Tuale.. You're too much.
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by 2aces(m): 3:36pm On Oct 11, 2014
Gbawe:
Remember the saying "no permanent enemies in politics only permanent interests"? Politics is essentially about seeing the big picture always rather than being personally encumbered by pettiness and worthless bellicosity.
English please?
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by Nobody:
major466:
Have you not read were I said according to the English Dictionary? That's were I got the definition. Besides corruption has many definition. So are dictionaries. I use an English Dictionary.
Go find your dictionary and search for the meaning yourself.
i shake my head in disappointment from you sir!!
Look Mr man, If you lie, you wil steal, if you steal you wil kill if you kill you are wicked and have lost all forms of integrity, and wen u lose ur integrity, u ar corrupt!
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So in essence, stealing == corruption!
Stop confusing people please!!
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by gsalvatore: 3:42pm On Oct 11, 2014
ifevictor:
Read this and make your judgements
WHO IS AFRAID OF BUHARI? 
I write this because of millions of
Nigerians who are below 30 and who
constitute a significant chunk of our
voting population.
This is the ICT generation that is largely
ignorant about the events of the
Buhari era (1983-85) and so can be
misinformed and misled by needless
propaganda. I have sat with many in
the
under-30 bracket and those slightly
above who only have faint recollections
of the Buhari era and the level of
ignorance about that era is amazing.
Before being MILITARY Head of State,
Buhari had been Governor of one of
the Northern States (under Obasanjo’s
Military government) as well as
Minister for Petroleum. He later
served
as Chairman of PTF under Abacha.
Please consider the following
unassailable facts:
·He birthed and supervised the
establishment of our existing
refineries.
·There was no religious crisis while he
was Head of State. It started under his
successor IBB!
·In his time as Head of State he
reduced
inflation from 23% to 4%, by fiscal
discipline and a homegrown economic
team (not achieved under any other
era, even military).
·JJ Rawlings of Ghana took over 2yrs
before him, and killed all the corrupt
leaders, while Buhari only sentenced
the corrupt leaders here to prison.
·Under his watch as PTF Chairman,
what he did in road construction in that
short period hasn't been matched by
12yrs of the PDP.
·Hospitals and universities around the
country never witnessed as much
benefits as they got from the PTF from
any government after or before his
time.
·Despite serving in senior capacity in
the oil sector, first as Minister for
Petroleum and then Petroleum Trust
Fund, Buhari has no petrol station,
much less a rig, refinery or an oil block
like so many of our leaders.
·He could have retired into nauseating
opulence like an IBB or Danjuma or
even OBJ but didn't.
·Instead of hobnobbing with the high
and mighty, he has cast his lot with the
ordinary man most of who follow him
out of hope and belief in his values.
People who know him have said
of him... "All I need from Buhari is his
word, I can take it to the bank".
·He is the only politician in the North
today who fills rallies without renting a
crowd. The Kaduna rally of 2nd March
is eloquent proof!
·He refused to collect an allowance
while serving as Chairman of the PTF
because he said since he was already
drawing a pension from government,
his conscience would not allow him
to draw another salary from the purse
of the same government.
·He is the only former head of state
that does not own property or land in
Abuja .
·Every attempt to rubbish him through
probes in time past eneded up
vindicating him! The man who was
asked by OBJ to take over the running
of PTF before it was scrapped with the
aim
of probing and indicting Buhari, was the
one who ended up being prosecuted
for misappropriating $100m of PTF
funds!
Buhari again, was vindicated
·He has OPENLY challenged those who
accuse him of religious fundamentalism
to come out and show proof. No one
has till today, taken up the challenge.
His
personal driver of many years is a
Christian from Plateau State !
·His government initiated the War
Against Indiscipline that has made
environmental cleanliness, queuing up,
not urinating by the roadside etc
features of our national life even till
today Does it then surprise you why
corrupt people would be spreading
such heinous rumours about Buhari?
He
is a threat to them and they know
what he is capable of doing to
corruption and
corrupt people when he comes into
office! So shine your eyes and make
the right decision. If honesty and
probity are the things you want for
Nigeria ,now is the time to choose
right. When you cast your vote for the
BUHARI, you would have cast one vote
for a honest men.
Now that you know better, will you
please educate another person BY
FORWARDING THIS TO AS
MANY AS YOU CAN??
Nigerians are tired of recycled politicians...a Nigerian of 30yrs has been hearing of Buhari since birth.. We needs new names, fresh people with ideas.

Buhari has no vision. the dude is an Extremist/bigot(religious/ethnic). Nobody is scared of Buhari(this is not military rule).He is not a saint as he pretends..You folks not be deceived. Atiku is a thief just like any other Naija politician but he is not all BUHARI is.

Why is GMB power hungry? even at his age. The youth don't need a dinosaur-Obj is the last.

Anybody telling you that Buhari is coming to fight corruption, in a Democratic Nigerian govt, with a corrupt National assembly.... bwhaaahahhah.....that's a setup.

He was a part of crew that overthrew a Democratic govt (whether he did participate or a face of "integrity"wink it will upset the balance in nature if he gets into a democratic presidency.

is GMB the best APC can offer?

Tired of all this Old fake ass alligator shoes.
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by ugeezee(m): 3:54pm On Oct 11, 2014
Odinaka00:
Nwanne uru di ya, oozi na ighotaro nwanne? Chefuo guy lol
onye okwu eziokwu ka i na ekwu!
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by ifevictor: 3:54pm On Oct 11, 2014
gsalvatore:
Nigerians are tired of recycled politicians...a Nigerian of 30yrs has been hearing of Buhari since birth.. We needs new names, fresh people with ideas.

Buhari has no vision. the dude is an Extremist/bigot(religious/ethnic). Nobody is scared of Buhari(this is not military rule).He is not a saint as he pretends..You folks not be deceived. Atiku is a thief just like any other Naija politician but he is not all BUHARI is.

Why is GMB power hungry? even at his age. The youth don't need a dinosaur-Obj is the last.

Anybody telling you that Buhari is coming to fight corruption, in a Democratic Nigerian govt, with a corrupt National assembly.... bwhaaahahhah.....that's a setup.

He was a part of crew that overthrew a Democratic govt (whether he did participate or a face of "integrity"wink it will upset the balance in nature if he gets into a democratic presidency.

is GMB the best APC can offer?

Tired of all this Old fake ass alligator shoes.
For people like u who have placed ethnic sentiments over merit and objectivity one does not need to engage in fruitless argument, all i just have to tell u is that this nation is not working and we need the best whether old or young, from the south, north or east.... Let's put competence and integrity over ethnicity and religion. Ethnicity and religiosity will only breed mediocrity and subsequently lead to a failed nation.


We need our best brains to fix this nation and i am sorry to say this we deserve better than GEJ
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by major466(m): 4:02pm On Oct 11, 2014
mobolaji88:
i shake my head in disappointment from you sir!!
Look Mr man, If you lie, you wil steal, if you steal you wil kill if you kill you are wicked and have lost all form of integrity, and wen u lose ur integrity, u ar corrupt!
.
So in essence, stealing == corruption!
Stop confusing people please!!
You certainly do not understand what am trying to put across.
Of course stealing is corruption. All those you mention are part of Corruption.
However, Corruption is a General term. It consist of multiple verbs (act) definable by law.
By General definition, we are all corrupt.



Stop referring to me as 'Sir'. Am still very much a young Nigerian.
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by engrlarex(m): 4:02pm On Oct 11, 2014
9jii:
Who made you believe all this?
The corrupt Nigerians will stop at nothing to paint him black.
He's not perfect but better than them all.he's for the masses not rich only.
how old r u during Buhari/Idiagbon regime.
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by Nobody: 4:06pm On Oct 11, 2014
Primary is just by d corner, we'll soon knw 4 sure hw far APC will go
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by 9jii(m): 4:19pm On Oct 11, 2014
engrlarex:
how old r u during Buhari/Idiagbon regime.
Baba oo
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by BabaEleko(m): 4:25pm On Oct 11, 2014
Raiders:
Buhari is responsible for human right violation of many Nigerians including Fela. Buhari is anti democratic and was responsible for a coup that remove a democratic government. Buhari was part of the most corrupt government ever in Nigeria history which is the Abacha government. Nigeria deserves better than buhari.
Provide proofs mister zombie.
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by khunley(m): 4:28pm On Oct 11, 2014
I want an APC member as president but definitely not Atiku nor Buhari. Pls bring someone with good record and integrity.
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by UnimkeAk(m): 4:40pm On Oct 11, 2014
stinggy:
If and only if (iff) APC can just feature Kwankwaso/Fashola. But religious bigots will not support this..
So he(Kwankwaso) will use our money to build schools all over Africa, while the state of schools in nigeria will still b deplorable.


WHY CANT THE APC NOT FILE A CHRISTIAN/CHRISTIAN candidate
Or are you trying to say that , christians aint fit for the job

You let things be.
Nigeria is a fragile country.
We might get there, maybe,
Name any country where they have equal numbers of Christians and Muslims and are living peacefully 2geda...
None,
One usually has the higher population


APC isn't ready !
Buhari doesn't stand a chance of winning the elections.

Why not file Fashola/Rochas
or
Rochas/Fashola
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by stinggy(m): 4:44pm On Oct 11, 2014
UnimkeAk:
So he(Kwankwaso) will use our money to build schools all over Africa, while the state of schools in nigeria will still b deplorable.


WHY CANT THE APC NOT FILE A CHRISTIAN/CHRISTIAN candidate
Or are you trying to say that , christians aint fit for the job

You let things be.
Nigeria is a fragile country.
We might get there, maybe,
Name any country where they have equal numbers of Christians and Muslims and are living peacefully 2geda...
None,
One usually has the higher population


APC isn't ready !
Buhari doesn't stand a chance of winning the elections.

Why not file Fashola/Rochas
or
Rochas/Fashola
Fashola/Rochas too is a very good combo bros
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by emmiej: 4:50pm On Oct 11, 2014
stinggy:
If and only if (iff) APC can just feature Kwankwaso/Fashola. But religious bigots will not support this..
You made a suggestion and at d same time countered urself...on dat basis, I declare ur opinion 'NULL n VOID'
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by dokiOloye(m): 4:53pm On Oct 11, 2014
Caseless:
tell me whyu think buhari is not good for us.
I don't lik Buhari cos he has once overthrown a democratically elected govt thereby robbing us of d opportunity for democracy to thrive and mature.
I don't also like him cos he's very sectional,kept Shagari who was d president and major actor in house a rest in a cosy house in Ikoyi while a less known Ekwueme languished in Kirikiri prison;remember d case of 52 suitcases;d origin of d North having better roads than d south started during his tenure in PTF;Failed to condemn d killing of youth corpers and christians after he lost in 2011 and was even justifying it saying it was due to rigging;failed to utter even one sentence in condemnation of bokoharam wen their killings was still largely restricted to christians and policemen and was even saying they shld be rewarded wt amnesty;once said muslims shld only vote muslims when he was campaignaing in 2003,always subtly threatening violence viz his dog and baboon statement.I could go on and on.
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by iffedayur(m): 4:56pm On Oct 11, 2014
With the situation of things, I can clearly say that the title of JARGABAN should go to Obasanjo. There is no gain saying in it that Obasanjo knows Nigeria's political terrain than any other individual in this Nation of ours.
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by stinggy(m): 4:59pm On Oct 11, 2014
emmiej:
You made a suggestion and at d same time countered urself...on dat basis, I declare ur opinion 'NULL n VOID'
Ok sir grin
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by kart042000(m): 5:05pm On Oct 11, 2014
ikechi1000:
ht
and who told u dat buhari had a hand 4 what was achieved during his tenure with idi-agbon, buhari was more or less a spectator, a figure head and idi-agbon was the power house, idi-agbon's courage, bravery and intelligence can not be over emphasied. APC is going nowhere becos of the lack of insight and wisdom to choose rightly a credible presedential candidate, and mind u gej is not more corrupt than buhari, is just dat he is being envied by egrigious politician who want to bring him down.
There is no envy towards Jonathan, to whom much is given, much is expected. You might want to read this https://www.nairaland.com/1882714/buhari-1983-1985-vs-jonathan-2010-present.
PDP should just leave the mantle of power, the gross abuse is too much. Even if PDP wins lagos state through Jimi Agbaje, it is a welcome development so the likes of tinubu would not just think the state belongs to their family line.
As for buhari and idi-agbon, have you ever pondered about it that without buharis support, idi agbon wouldn't have been able to accomplish all that he did. As we speak, what roles does Sambo play politically? What roles did Jonathan play under Yar'adua? But Atiku played lots of roles under Obj because he got obasanjos support. I dont support mediocrity, neither do i play on religious lines or ethnicity, but Jonathan is a NO NO for me.
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by emmiej: 5:05pm On Oct 11, 2014
Nobody is talking about Oshiobaba Adams here...and u want me to believe that APC is not a Nothern Agenda with d aim of holding onto power at d detriment of other far more educated tribes in Nigeria...is Buhari better than Oshimole? So why can't d APC give Oshiomole the presidential ticket. APC supporters answer me...
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by malachytochukwu(m): 5:14pm On Oct 11, 2014
If i am not mistaken, one of the cardinal points of Buhari's manifesto was to "probe OBJ's regime", now that they Are counting several beads just for baba to join their party, where will APC muster the political will to do that after licking OBJ's ass? One more thing, am very much aware that the GEJ we know today might change the instant he is elected into office for the second term. This is because then there will be no fear of whether MR. A or B will support him for the next election as he will no more be elligible. Therefore, a lot of stern and drastic decisions might be taken.Then those that think GEJ is "weak" might want to reconsider their stand.
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by Nobody: 5:15pm On Oct 11, 2014
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by Mboi: 5:52pm On Oct 11, 2014
9jii:
Who made you believe all this?
The corrupt Nigerians will stop at nothing to paint him black.
He's not perfect but better than them all.he's for the masses not rich only.
Buhari's govt was one of the worst in history. It was full of human right violation Fela and a tv reporter who reported how the missing $2m dollars den was found in a bank in UK fixed in Buhari's account. What caused the PTF scrapping of PTF by OBJ when Buhari was d chairman? Buhari was a dictator,he was and is still one, highly undemocratic fellow.
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by youngwolf(m): 5:57pm On Oct 11, 2014
Raiders:
Buhari is responsible for human right violation of many Nigerians including Fela. Buhari is anti democratic and was responsible for a coup that remove a democratic government. Buhari was part of the most corrupt government ever in Nigeria history which is the Abacha government. Nigeria deserves better than buhari.
See am not so interested in politics, but I think ve read a lot about Nigerian history and most of the things u listed out here re lies...the man buhari never had any knowledge about the coup, the military top brass den decided the shagari regime had to go becos corruption was very rampant, he (buhari) was chosen to lead a new regime as a senior officer who was deemed capable to clean the mess left by the shagari regime

2 there is not one military regime ever in the world without records of human right abuse

3 as for felas case he was a problem for different military govts. From OBJ to IBBs time. Infact his mother was seriously injured in a raid by security forces during OBJs regime which lead to her death

4 and for ur corruption claim, I believe his govt then was overthrown because of its strict policy on corruption and indiscipline. And that why most people re afraid of the man.

Like I said I'm not into politics but these lies have got to stop.
Re: Dont Field Atiku, Obasanjo Warns APC. by VEHULEAOLCOM: 6:12pm On Oct 11, 2014
THERE IS NOTHING SIGNIFICANT ABOUT OBASANJO MEETING WITH APC,ALL OF THEM DEFRAUD THE COUNTRY.THE ONLY THING THEY CRY ABOUT NIGERIAN UNITY IS THE OIL FROM OIL PRODUCING STATES.TAKE AWAY THE OIL,WHO WILL TALK ABOUT NIGERIAN UNITY.
LET EVERY ETHNIC GROUP OR STATE PRODUCE SOMETHING AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE NATION,THEN THERE WILL BE ONE NIGERIA .
BETWEEN OBASANJO AND THE REST OF THEM,THEY HAVE RULED NIGERIA FOR 45 YEARS,NO ELECTRICITY,GUTTERS EVERYWHERE,BAD ROADS,IMPORTATION OF FOREIGN MADE GOODS.THE ONLY REASON THEY ARE CRYING IS BECAUSE SOMEBODY FROM THEIR CLAN IS NOT THE PRESIDENT.
PLEASE DONT BE DECEIVED BY THESE CLOWNS.
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