There are different kind of Children. Study your child and know the mode of discipline that he/she adheres to most. Some children does not like to be beaten, but the moment you talk sense into their brain,they llisten and change their ways, some listen more to instruction through punishment, while some r through beating. All these are various forms of discipline

samflexxy:
like seriously I detest people who beat children I think they should be locked up when I eventually have my own kid I give them minor punishment or I'll grand them for a week or more

It depends on the type of kids you have bro and the environment where they grow up.

Some kids are just too stubborn, right from stomach sef.

No one drives joy from hitting his own blood but hitting is necessary sometimes.

I will never ever beat any child, not even mine..

I care-less if its discipline or abuse.

I won't just do it.

Please, if u won't subscribe to beating, which oda form of punishment will u adopt or won't u nid to punish ur children @ all?

[size=18pt]Punishment or Child Abuse?[/size]

By MICHAEL ERIC DYSONSEPT. 17, 2014

WASHINGTON — THE indictment last week of the N.F.L. player Adrian Peterson by a Texas grand jury for reckless or negligent injury to a child has set into relief the harmful disciplinary practices of some black families. Mr. Peterson used a “switch,” a slim, leafless tree branch, to beat his 4-year-old son, raising welts on the youngster’s legs, buttocks and scrotum. This is child abuse dressed up as acceptable punishment.

While 70 percent of Americans approve of corporal punishment, black Americans have a distinct history with the subject. Beating children has been a depressingly familiar habit in black families since our arrival in the New World. As the black psychiatrists William H. Grier and Price M. Cobbs wrote in “Black Rage,” their 1968 examination of psychological black life: “Beating in child-rearing actually has its psychological roots in slavery and even yet black parents will feel that, just as they have suffered beatings as children, so it is right that their children be so treated.”


The lash of the plantation overseer fell heavily on children to whip them into fear of white authority. Terror in the field often gave way to parents beating black children in the shack, or at times in the presence of the slave owner in forced cooperation to break a rebellious child’s spirit. Black parents beat their children to keep them from misbehaving in the eyes of whites who had the power to send black youth to their deaths for the slightest offense. Today, many black parents fear that a loose tongue or flash of temper could get their child killed by a trigger-happy cop. They would rather beat their offspring than bury them.


If beating children began, paradoxically, as a violent preventive of even greater violence, it was enthusiastically embraced in black culture, especially when God was recruited. As an ordained Baptist minister with a doctorate in religion, I have heard all sorts of religious excuses for whippings.

And I have borne the physical and psychic scars of beatings myself. I can’t forget the feeling, as a 16-year-old, of my body being lifted from the floor in my father’s muscular grip as he cocked back his fist to hammer me until my mother’s cry called him off. I loved my father, but his aggressive brand of reproof left in me a trail of un-cried tears.



Like many biblical literalists, lots of black believers are fond of quoting Scriptures to justify corporal punishment, particularly the verse in Proverbs 13:24 that says, “He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.” But in Hebrew, the word translated as “rod” is the same word used in Psalms 23:4, “thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.” The shepherd’s rod was used to guide the sheep, not to beat them.

Many believers — including Mr. Peterson, a vocal Christian — have confused the correction of children’s behavior with corporal punishment. The word “discipline” comes from the Latin “discipuli,” which means student or disciple, suggesting a teacher-pupil relationship. Punishment comes from the Greek word “poine” and its Latin derivative “poena,” which mean revenge, and form the root words of pain, penalty and penitentiary.


The point of discipline is to transmit values to children. The purpose of punishment is to coerce compliance and secure control, and failing that, to inflict pain as a form of revenge, a realm the Bible says belongs to God alone.

Yet secular black culture thrives on colorful stories of punishment that are passed along as myths of ancient wisdom — a type of moral glue that holds together varying communities in black life across time and circumstance. Black comedians cut their teeth on dramatically recalling “whoopings” with belts, switches, extension cords, hairbrushes or whatever implement was at hand. Even as genial a comic as Bill Cosby offered a riff in his legendary 1983 routine that left no doubt about the deadly threat of black punishment. “My father established our relationship when I was 7 years old,” Mr. Cosby joked. “He looked at me and says, ‘You know, I brought you in this world, I’ll take you out. And it don’t make no difference to me, cause I’ll make another one look just like you.’ ”


The humor is blunted when we recall that Marvin Gaye’s life ended violently in 1984 at the hands of his father, a minister who brutalized him mercilessly as a child before shooting him to death in a chilling echo of Mr. Cosby’s words.

Perhaps comedians make us laugh to keep us from crying, but no humor can mask the suffering that studies say our children endure when they are beaten: feelings of sadness and worthlessness, difficulties sleeping, suicidal thoughts, bouts of anxiety, outbursts of aggression, diminished concentration, intense dislike of authority, frayed relations with peers, and negative high-risk behavior.

Equally tragic is that those who are beaten become beaters too. [/b]And many black folks are reluctant to seek therapy for their troubles because they may be seen as spiritually or mentally weak. The pathology of beatings festers in the psychic wounds of black people that often go untreated in silence.

[b]Adrian Peterson’s brutal behavior toward his 4-year-old son is, in truth, the violent amplification of the belief of many blacks that beatings made them better people, a sad and bleak justification for the continuation of the practice in younger generations. After Mr. Peterson’s indictment, the comedian D. L. Hughley tweeted: “A fathers belt hurts a lot less then a cops bullet!”

He is right, of course, but only in a forensic, not a moral or psychological sense. What hurts far less than either is the loving correction of our children’s misbehavior so they become healthy adults who speak against violence wherever they find it — in the barrel of a policeman’s gun, the fist of a lover or the switch of a misguided parent.

Michael Eric Dyson, a professor of sociology at Georgetown, is writing a book on President Obama and


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/18/opinion/punishment-or-child-abuse.html?_r=0.

I don't think beating helpss o cs I remmember wen I was a kid till my yuth slf... That. Cane don sweet me dat I will mak sm offence.. Thy will beat me lik.. If u still chk my body slf u go stil c d mark... But dat dos'nt chang me.. I. Only. Change wen u talk and pampers.. So beating can. Only chang a kid fr smtym... But pampering and making them knw wat thy dnt knw will chang them fr. A verylong tym

manutdadex:
i wud beat my kids!! because i was beaten and it helpd me...

u so mean, and how has it helped u?

Alexsmith20:
As an african man i believe in the adage which say "flog him once and he would flee twice".

but thats not how my wife sees it,she is always keen on pampering the kids base on the facts that she was born and brought up in the states and was not subjected to such method of discipline.


So my question is, is beating a form of ABUSE or DISCIPLINE?

. Whether its a discipline or abuse. Its about you(parent)...personally, My father had never beaten me and by the grace of God today am 30 & people celebrate/admire my kind of behaviour .... He does the trick simply by advising me constantly with perseverance.. My father is a gud man ! The fact that he was a military man; he do handle/discipline his children buh myself in exception.. Lol do nt ask me how my other sibblings behaves lols...

It depends on the manner you beat them because some kids are naturally stubborn and will want to frustrate your life as their parents.but don't beat them excessively and consistently.beat a child(apply the beating force)according to his or her age.

ShakurM:
u so mean, and how has it helped u?

if dem no beat me wen stealin or smoke mat straw, even stayin late out, omo i for don turn don!! But cain performs wonder o! And if u c kids of dis days, somtimes e b like say demon dey inside dem!na cain sure pass but still u av to b careful..cain and prayer works!!

aboyaji:
for me, its discipline. There is this my neighbors kid, his parents named him after my name. Now, he disobeys his parents and talks nonsenseee when he is asked to do one or two things. But whenever my name is mentioned into his ears that they will tell me about his actions, he quickly adheres to whatever errand or instruction given to him

So what that does make u? Instead of you to change the kid once n for all..talk to him first, at least in a comforting way, u would be a big brother after that I assure.

jasoncage:
Beating is crap.

samflexxy:
I wouldn't beat my child for any reason

Hey dude, are you saying that you wouldn't flog your kid(s) even when they steal even at home and outside home?

Tallesty1:
It depends on the type of kids you have bro and the environment where they grow up.

Some kids are just too stubborn, right from stomach sef.

No one drives joy from hitting his own blood but hitting is necessary sometimes.

I get your point but I think beating should not still be considered because beating makes the child hard and even more stubborn. It'll come to a time the child will get use to the beating and will misbehave knowing that he'll just receive a spank when someone have a very stubborn kid that misbehaves a lot I think he should seize all his gadget and no watching of tv for a month let's see if the child won't calm down

Beehshorp:
Lol...na dis kind of thread my dad needs to see..wish he was on nairaland.. That man na spare d rod spoil the child activist

imagine a stammering father he will surely beats he'll out of such kid that erred

Dlee1:

Hey dude, are you saying that you wouldn't flog your kid(s) even when they steal even at home and outside home?

yes I still wouldn't beat my child it think in that kinda situation the best thing todo is to talk to the child if am not giving him/she what she want I'll promise to start giving you know what when you beat the child 2moro he'll still go back and thief that money

manutdadex:
if dem no beat me wen stealin or smoke mat straw, even stayin late out, omo i for don turn don!! But cain performs wonder o! And if u c kids of dis days, somtimes e b like say demon dey inside dem!na cain sure pass but still u av to b careful..cain and prayer works!!

Ehn ehnn, for ur faults, u deserve em . 21st generation kids are quite tough really. Oh yea I like that; prayers! One thing I don't like is parents giving their kids scars all in the name of beating! I detest that as hell.

Africa!Harsh Society that produces frustrated and corrupt people.
Flog ko Flog ni.
Mehn my children can never grow up in this deluded society.Mtchwww

I have started whooping my 2yr old kid as$

preach93:
it isnt cause even bible says "aya omode ni were disi, pasan lama fi remove e"

Dis got me laffing really bad

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It depends on the level of beating because there is a very fine line between both and can easily cross over from discipline to abuse.

[quote author=Alexsmith20 post=27371623]As an african man i believe in the adage which say "flog him once and he would flee twice".

but thats not how my wife sees it,she is always keen on pampering the kids base on the facts that she was born and brought up in the states and was not subjected to such method of discipline.

So my question is, is beating a form of ABUSE or DISCIPLINE?[/quote)
Training a child isnt that easy,beating a child doesnt stop him from doing things,children are naturally curious and beating them only complicates there understanding of life.

The severity of the act committed depends on the kind of punishment the child gets.

Let's face the truth: kids now a days are too smart and just too bold to be left unchecked all in the name of pampering. I've never been a believer of pampering a child. In fact I am a supporter of flogging...

These kids now a days will willingly disobey their parents just to see what they'll do.

Alexsmith20:
As an african man i believe in the adage which say "flog him once and he would flee twice".

but thats not how my wife sees it,she is always keen on pampering the kids base on the facts that she was born and brought up in the states and was not subjected to such method of discipline.

So my question is, is beating a form of ABUSE or DISCIPLINE?

Training children are not that easy and beating is different from discipline

they'll frog jump and assume pick a pin position

Peterken05:
it is pure abuse, why would inflict pain on your child and be happy about it. Thats psycho. Most people beat their children because the holy books say so.

The Bible did not categorically say we should use cane

mirexxx:
the rod doesn't mean flogging alone na, there r oda ways u can discipline a child. if am grounded 4 an hour,without my gadgets n locked in my room chaii i give up on dat strong head o. beating kids sha. dey dont 4get it o and might hate u sef

So I should not smack my kids because "they might hate me"?

That is what people should be scared of?

Children shouldn't be seen as animals who are beating to put them to check.reasoning with and understanding your children helps not beating they as much human as you understand your children children can get used to beating but non-corporal punishment would do it, take what he loves most and he would be called to check

Wetin this one dey talk, physcho ko, physcha ni

Peterken05:
it is pure abuse, why would inflict pain on your child and be happy about it. Thats psycho. Most people beat their children because the holy books say so.

IMO it is very essential in d bringin up of a child especially a male child. I went 2 stay in my uncle's place for some months nd d man has a 7year old boy who argues wit d mum nd a 4year old who insults d mum. D parent never beat dis boys only yell on dem. Being a person brought up by a military father i introduced corporal punishment to d home. 1day d 4year old said his mum was mad i took him into d room nd asked him to pickpin d mum could not challenge me cos she is yoruba nd am frm d husbands family. Believe u me till d time i left there(i spent about 3months cos i had jst concluded my uni education) d 2 boy never tried it again.infact d mother of dis children even tried to convince me to influence my Nysc to dat state cos of d decorum i brought into d home. The rod is very important in d upbringing of a child but parents must learn when and how to apply it.

Peterken05:
it is pure abuse, why would inflict pain on your child and be happy about it. Thats psycho. Most people beat their children because the holy books say so.

what are u talking about then since the holy book (as u observed) adviced to use cane on children in-order to mode them for better in their adulthood.


I never blamed ma parents for a second dealing hard on me with cane when i was a kid and in even my late adolescent years. I pretty much appreciated it.

Even if future Nigeria law prohibits that act, i must continue to reciprocate that which was perpetrated by my parents and supported by the scripture.