Ukutsgp:
where did they even get that idea from? Is it in the bible? Maybe they have to show me a verse were gold is cursed.

You that's talking, where did the Bible condemn the selling and buying of the things you mentioned.
Don't judge, you're not God.

Jesus himself turned water to wine.

Ukutsgp:
God dnt accept tithe of those tins

Oh, did God mention this to you or are you making it up as you go along?

odave:


Bro forget that tatoo joo. If bible is against tatoo, then bible is also against shaping you bear and rounding the corners of ur head....its cclearly written in leviticus 19 vs 27 - 28. Don't obey one verse that is cnvinient for you and neglect the other one. 27 Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.

28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord.

Each time you visit barber shop you are as guilty as the person who has tatoo

Check different version of bible that suits you...its clearly written there

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U forget smtin, dont u tink so? Dat portion ws specifically 4mournin d dead. It says we shud nt shave 2mourn d dead. Read it well

Ukutsgp:
what is wrong with 3 and 6?

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They are wrong because d word of God is against it. Read Deaut 22v5. And 1st Tim 2v9; 1Pet 3v3. Rememba dat God wil judge everyone by d words written in d Holy Bible.

Weah96:


Oh, did God mention this to you or are you making it up as you go along?

if i am selling fake drugs to people for instance and bring the tithe to God, will God accept it? Pastor may accept it cos they dnt know how it came. But God cannot accept polluted sacrifice. U are killing people with ur business. U can't bribe God with money.

pureIvory:


You that's talking, where did the Bible condemn the selling and buying of the things you mentioned.
Don't judge, you're not God.

Jesus himself turned water to wine.

will u sell something that poses threat to human health and God will clap for u? The bible say touch nt the unclean things. Whatever is bad is bad.

Jesus turned water to wine but not to alcohol. Nobody was drunk after the ceremony. That will tell u dat, the wine doesn't contain alcohol.

SweetWJ:
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They are wrong because d word of God is against it. Read Deaut 22v5. And 1st Tim 2v9; 1Pet 3v3. Rememba dat God wil judge everyone by d words written in d Holy Bible.

u mean ladies wearing trousers?

fhunn:



Alright, where is it stated in the Bible that it should be used at all?

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My broda in Christ, as a true believer and follower of Christ, u shud knw d bible b4 debatin on matas like dis. I wil quote portions of d bible where gold are used and i believe dat it wil make u stop d arguement. In Exodus 39v1-43, d garments of d priest were adorned wit gold an oda special materials. In case u feel dat it is old testament belief, answer dis questn ursef. When our Saviour Jesus Christ was born, wat kind of gift ws given to him by d three wise men?

Ukutsgp:
u mean ladies wearing trousers?

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Read d scriptures i quoted

fhunn:


From what you're saying you must use something because you accepted it bah

How lame!!

Jesus didn't use those because they weren't available then

I just wish you could understand that what we're talking about here, gold, cuts across time
You're just using things that weren't available as a cover, use something that was available then and still is now

And one more thing I won't reply you again since you're so hellbent on using gold, go on!!!

it is just one thing i need from you. Where did God say we should nt use gold?

Is ur watch and some items in ur house nt made with gold?

Didn't solomon use gold to build the house of God?

Won't the streets in heaven be paved with Gold?

Do u even know the use of gold at all?

I dnt really know the line of your argument. This is nt something that should be debated on. It is clear that anybody can use gold for whatever provided it is nt something that contradict the word of God such as making a golden calf(idol) with it.

SweetWJ:
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Read d scriptures i quoted

i have read it.

SweetWJ:
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My broda in Christ, as a true believer and follower of Christ, u shud knw d bible b4 debatin on matas like dis. I wil quote portions of d bible where gold are used and i believe dat it wil make u stop d arguement. In Exodus 39v1-43, d garments of d priest were adorned wit gold an oda special materials. In case u feel dat it is old testament belief, answer dis questn ursef. When our Saviour Jesus Christ was born, wat kind of gift ws given to him by d three wise men?

Let me ask you, are you following Jesus or the priests?

If it's priests, alright you can wear gold like them and also remember to offer burnt sacrifices when asking God for mercy. You hear!!

As for the gifts Jesus was given,

Is it a must you use whatever is given to you by someone?

tpacalipse:
Christian music and books.

Thank God devil did not inspire you to say BIBLE

fhunn:



Let me ask you, are you following Jesus or the priests?

If it's priests, alright you can wear gold like them and also remember to offer burnt sacrifices when asking God for mercy. You hear!!

As for the gifts Jesus was given,

Is it a must you use whatever is given to you by someone?

i dnt like chicken but they gave u and u took it.

Did Jesus condemned the priest for using it?
Did he even talk about it? Pls my guy, find something else to argue about.

prettyboi1989:

Oh please, what nonsense are u saying, ur brother is in the habit of smoking indian hemp or ur sister is in the habit of sleeping around, but because u see a passage in the bible that says "judge not" ud look the other way while they both wallow in something detrimental to their well-being and negating God's word? U guys keep misinterpreting the bible. A passage in the bible says, train a child in the way of the lord and he shall not depart from it. Do u knw wat it means when God says men should judge not? Its to prevent sinfull people from judging the ones who got sin in them. Do u remember when some guys wanted to stone a woman because she sleeps around, then jesus said, he who is without sin should cast the first stone? None could, because they all had sin in them. 2tim 3vs16 says NLT version "All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right"

I think you quote me wrong..i stated it clearly...That is why you have the bible to guide you

SweetWJ:
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U forget smtin, dont u tink so? Dat portion ws specifically 4mournin d dead. It says we shud nt shave 2mourn d dead. Read it well

Noooooo, verse 28 was talking abt having a tatoo for the dead not shaving for the dead, don't twist it!

odave:


Noooooo, verse 28 was talking abt having a tatoo for the dead not shaving for the dead, don't twist it!

yea. christians should not do that.

Ukutsgp:
yea. christians should not do that.

Then we should not shave as well...read leviticus 19 vs 27.

odave:


Then we should not shave as well...read leviticus 19 vs 27.

we can shave. Read 1cor 11. But we should nt print any marks or cuttings on our body. Read lev 19:28.

Ukutsgp:
we can shave. Read 1cor 11. But we should nt print any marks or cuttings on our body. Read lev 19:28.

Nah I don't believe that bro. Apostle paul was referring to the corithians coz its their culture. And plz explain vs 27 for me

odave:


Nah I don't believe that bro. Apostle paul was referring to the corithians coz its their culture. And plz explain vs 27 for me

27 You shall not shave around the sides of your head, nor shall you disfigure the edges of your beard. 28 You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the LORD. -lev 19:27-28.(niv)

that place is talking about the hair at the side of your head, it is not saying u should nt barb ur hair.

Ukutsgp:



27 You shall not shave around the sides of your head, nor shall you disfigure the edges of your beard. 28 You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the LORD. -lev 19:27-28.(niv)

that place is talking about the hair at the side of your head, it is not saying u should nt barb ur hair.

So whc hair are we talking abt here?

odave:


So whc hair are we talking abt here?

the side beard

Ukutsgp:
the side beard

I'm sure you keep yours...assuming you are a guy tho. You keep urs right?

odave:


I'm sure you keep yours...assuming you are a guy tho. You keep urs right?

u dnt have to ask me that question. the scripture is there for u to see. if u like obey, if u like dnt obey. it between u and God. i have told u what that verse is talking about. so, why the question again?

This argument will never end.

The Moment you begin to see the Bible as the Tree of life and not as the Tree of evil and good, you'll begin to notice a radical change in your spiritual life.

Have you ever wondered why Jesus said you should remove the log in your eyes before you remove the speck in the eyes of the person you're about judging?

Notice that there is a log in the eyes of the one judging and a teeny tiny speck in the eyes of the person to be judged.

Read the story of the Samaritan woman.

Lastly, God has called us to love and freedom in Christ and not unto strife.

Gold, clothing, alcohol, hairstyles and other things that changes with time and differs among cultures of the world shouldn't be what we should focus on. We should focus on what transcends everything here, Christ and Him alone.

eripecs:
There are many churches and christians that are deep in spiritual things and heaven minded.

So refusal to use gold, hair extensions and contraceptives is what makes one deep in spiritual things and heaven minded?

You're terribly wrong bae.....

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With schools fees costing parents with two kids about three million per year, you'd want to rethink birthing many kids.

Ukutsgp:
u dnt have to ask me that question. the scripture is there for u to see. if u like obey, if u like dnt obey. it between u and God. i have told u what that verse is talking about. so, why the question again?

You dodge d question so well

odave:


You dodge d question so well

there is no point asking that questions. what purpose will it serve u?

Ukutsgp:
there is no point asking that questions. what purpose will it serve u?

You are very holy, I just wanna prove it


If you do shave ur side hair u have no legal ground pointing accusing finger to those who have tatoo...that's the point. I don't have any mark or tatoo on my body, not even tribal mark, I'm just trying to be objective. If ppl wt tatoo sinned against God, those cutting their beard or their side hair sinned too...shikenah!

odave:


You are very holy, I just wanna prove it


If you do shave ur side hair u have no legal ground pointing accusing finger to those who have tatoo...that's the point. I don't have any mark or tatoo on my body, not even tribal mark, I'm just trying to be objective. If ppl wt tatoo sinned against God, those cutting their beard or their side hair sinned too...shikenah!

side beard should nt be shaved.