PhockPhockMan:
Either you're a serious supporter of boko haram or you need a A BRAIN INJECTION. Which America are you talking about? The one that established a torture Island called Guantamo Bay, massacred several thousand innocent people in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq etc, in their search for imaginary chemical weapons, terrorists and ultimately, Bin Laden. The invasion of Iraq without United nation isn't it a violation of human rights? We should not fall for America's old tricks of hiding under human rights violations to commit crimes. We all know the kind of evil state of Israel is committing on regular basis in middle east, yet, America remains their biggest supporter and biggest arms suppliers. What of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, despite reported human rights violations in those countries, America supplies them arms.
The bottom line is that America is not comfortable seeing the emergence of a strong African nation, economically, militarily and otherwise. Unfortunately for them, Nigeria is a moving train.

Oga, Boko haram and Brain Injection no rhyme together and you don use your comment fall your hand, Guantanamo Bay wey you talk .. have you been there ? ? ? I am willing to wager top dollar that your information is from movies , Guantanamo bay is supposed to be a CIA black site, military prison for very violent terrorists , Unlike in Nigeria where every police cell is Guantanamo bay , Where SARS and Police torture people with hot pressing iron, cutlass and co.

Information can be corrupted , especially when it leaves the source, As at the time of Invasion U.S.A Believed the information they had about weapons of mass destructions and IEDs are really in Iraq , If it wasn't the then's Government's alliance with terror, if they had cooperated in Iraq , USA probably wouldn't have invaded , and if you do read news , you would discover that the information about weapons of mass destruction and IED was from a very reliable and credible CIA/FBI source, Negotiations with the President in Iraq back then failed , The Oval office had no choice than to invade to protect the lives of the people and the American bases there in Iraq , And UN was involved in the Invasion contrary to your claim.


In March 2003 the United States government announced that "diplomacy has failed" and that it would proceed with a "coalition of the willing" to rid Iraq under Saddam Hussein of weapons of mass destruction the US insisted it possessed. The 2003 invasion of Iraq began a few days later

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_and_the_Iraq_War.


Whatever Evil Israel is committing, please share your sources otherwise everything you have written is about your hate for America and your Love for terrorism . United States will not Invade if there are no credible reasons , according to Wiki , Saddam Hussein did not agree to allow UN inspectors into the country to check / verify the truth about the information USA had recieved , he was stalling them

Saddam Hussein was allowing / protecting al-Qaeda operative Abu Musab al-Zarqawi known terrorist who was involved with WTC bombings .

If USA is the worst human right violator , Why hasn't Iran been invaded ?? , abi them too don't have Nuclear Plants from where they plan to manufacture Nuclear bombs IRAN went as far as preventing satellites from being able to take pictures of some of thier Installations on ground, why hasn't Iran been bombed yet ??

My brother , US is the world's big brother , it never does anything to violate people , except the Bad ones , Compared to some powerful people in Nigeria , US as a country has a very clear conscience and clean record

PhockPhockMan:
You're right. The cold war between Nigeria America really started during Yar,adua regime when American government requested that we grant them the permission to establish a military base in Nigeria. The plan got resistance from Nigerians which embarrassed them without measure hence their decision split the country through boko haram. Because they've realized that Nigeria is difficult to manipulate as presently constituted. So anybody who think America will help in dismantling what they built must be dreaming. That's why I want the current president to stay till 2019, so that he will implement in full his laudable foreign policy. I know you won't agree with me, but this the nakedt truth.

u jst made sense for the first time, phock. That doesn't mean ur gej is d man...he's too soft to face america.

DaBullIT:


Oga, Boko haram and Brain Injection no rhyme together and you don use your comment fall your hand, Guantanamo Bay wey you talk .. have you been there ? ? ? I am willing to wager top dollar that your information is from movies , Guantanamo bay is supposed to be a CIA black site, military prison for very violent terrorists , Unlike in Nigeria where every police cell is Guantanamo bay , Where SARS and Police torture people with hot pressing iron, cutlass and co.

Information can be corrupted , especially when it leaves the source, As at the time of Invasion U.S.A Believed the information they had about weapons of mass destructions and IEDs are really in Iraq , If it wasn't the then's Government's alliance with terror, if they had cooperated in Iraq , USA probably wouldn't have invaded , and if you do read news , you would discover that the information about weapons of mass destruction and IED was from a very reliable and credible CIA/FBI source, Negotiations with the President in Iraq back then failed , The Oval office had no choice than to invade to protect the lives of the people and the American bases there in Iraq , And UN was involved in the Invasion contrary to your claim.


In March 2003 the United States government announced that "diplomacy has failed" and that it would proceed with a "coalition of the willing" to rid Iraq under Saddam Hussein of weapons of mass destruction the US insisted it possessed. The 2003 invasion of Iraq began a few days later

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_and_the_Iraq_War.


Whatever Evil Israel is committing, please share your sources otherwise everything you have written is about your hate for America and your Love for terrorism . United States will not Invade if there are no credible reasons , according to Wiki , Saddam Hussein did not agree to allow UN inspectors into the country to check / verify the truth about the information USA had recieved , he was stalling them

Saddam Hussein was allowing / protecting al-Qaeda operative Abu Musab al-Zarqawi known terrorist who was involved with WTC bombings .

If USA is the worst human right violator , Why hasn't Iran been invaded ?? , abi them too don't have Nuclear Plants from where they plan to manufacture Nuclear bombs IRAN went as far as preventing satellites from being able to take pictures of some of thier Installations on ground, why hasn't Iran been bombed yet ??

My brother , US is the world's big brother , it never does anything to violate people , except the Bad ones , Compared to some powerful people in Nigeria , US as a country has a very clear conscience and clean record

u believed this trash sold to u by the americans. Even as the world has realised d aim behind d invasion, u ar stil here in ur illusion. U even justify guantanamo bay. U need help.

DaBullIT:


Your argument makes no sense Bro. Unlike Nigeria where people take pride in Aluu4 ,jungle justice , where human life and human right means nothing to anyone The US actually cares about safety and lives of its citizens and human right . Soldiers signed waivers during training and they get paid for the risks. Human rights watch did not complain about soldiers violating the rights of terrorists they complained about soldiers murdering innocent people .like a video where a man in military fatigue beheaded 6 suspected terrorists with his cutlass and they put them in a mass grave

Operating some weapons is not just load and cock and aim. Command bases , video streaming of live events , military satelites and every other factors work together for decision making in advanced countries . Also Most aeronautic engineers are mostly engineers by degree not by experience , What's the problem with Nigeria ? Maintenance culture. You buy you use you abandon . Furthermore if some members of the Nigerian army came out to say they cant shoot their brothers in Islam and they happily handed over weapons and armored tanks. That jet in the wrong hands is a disaster for Nigeria as a whole


I guess my point is that the USA has the moral and psychological obligation not to provide a weapon of mini mass destruction to Nigeria as long as barbarians are still in charge , and as long as soldiers are defecting to boko haram camps .

Tell them ooooooooo (the bolded)
I wonder how we face reality in this nation of ours, you can imagine the impunity of these so-called soldier at their 'duty post' destroying Civilians/innocent peoples phone and at time delay and punish travelers for making phone calls while passing through their so-called Road-Blocks...without any Warnings/Indicators to pre-warned travelers......

Imagine them with having access to Cobra Heli without proper training which is Lacking in their file and ranks

More comedy. The GIANTS OF AFRICA can't produce weapons? Too bad. The reasons given here are rubbish. U.S knows the weapons are not meant to fight boko haram. So America should come and defeat boko haram when we have been told that every attack strategy discussed is leaked to boko haram by some Nigerian soldiers? Some of the uniforms and weaponsused by BH belong to the Nigerian. Army! Let's wake up from this slumber, GOVT is not SERIOUS about fighting boko haram. PERIOD!!

Caseless:
u believed this trash sold to u by the americans. Even as the world has realised d aim behind d invasion, u ar stil here in ur illusion. U even justify guantanamo bay. U need help.

What's this one saying ?

You no sabi where this yawa begin you carry aproko come dey insult pesin .

Maybe its the world who is blinded by jealousy and hate , maybe its the world who is blinded by fury.

I'm not saying US govt is perfect I'm saying they don't fumble about bullying other smaller nations

WTC was bombed wasn't it ?
Osama/Al quida claimed responsibility
Some nations were celebrating the horrible incident while some scampered in fear for they know what will come

What most people say is America went to Iraq for oil. How many times have you read that a bunker delivered crude to US borders even till date ?
So think about it . and for your info I read different versions of news and opinions before drawing my conclusions

Google.it Google.co.uk , Google.fr ,Google.com.es , Google.il , Even Google Saudi USA can not control all the search engines in the world. Of course there will be cry babies saying every move US makes is wrong , You don't go around dancing fire hoping not to get burnt

Google : countries celebrate 9/11 or Saddam Hussein IED or All queida IRAQ. You would see that several factors amounted to invasion of Iraq not oil

Or better still they will just dash or sell it to boko haram and claim it was missing or it crashed

They are just good for my liking, i just love to hate them.
They never have the interest of Africans let alone Nigeria.

Toh

simplemach:
4k U.S and everything about dem

Why, they refused u Visa? They can sell to whomever they want. Why can nigerian develop their own weapon, with all your so called "engineers" They can shakara u all they want, Nigeria need them, they don't need Nigeria. They have everything in USA. God's own country, where everything works.

rawpadgin:
each time i hear Nigerian science students bragging about their certificate i just laugh

the mentality of an average Nigerian science student is.... after graduation get employed in a company that pays 200k per month, then get married

while the U.S science students are thinking of the next machine to invent

Gbam!. Na true, that is why Nigeria beg all these country. Invest in your people and build a military industry, train and pay your well. You will C how others will b buying from u.

bandisandi:
They raised two reasons for not selling weapons to Nigeria.
1:
Nigeria military has been abusing the natural human rights of these terrorists

2: Nigeria military lacks the technical-know-how to handle the so called sophisticated weapon..

MY REPLY
1- why should soldiers respect their right when they themselves are denying others the ultimate right toLIFE. I say to hell with their rightz.
2- How sophisticated can a weapon be that people won't know how to use it Are they judging level of intelligence by skin colour
In short, US is doing these because they still felt hurt about how Nigeria was not transparent with them when they imported expertise and services to Nigeria. It dents a great blow on their reputation that the almighty US Can't locate and rescue kidnapped girls in the forest.
TOO BAAAAD!!!

Where did you read the bolded. You are being mischievous.

Legit:
Why, they refused u Visa? They can sell to whomever they want. Why can nigerian develop their own weapon, with all your so called "engineers" They can shakara u all they want, Nigeria need them, they don't need Nigeria. They have everything in USA. God's own country, where everything works.

Ok, noted

What happened to igbo otumokpo,local egg and knockout? Combination of the above three and adding the name of amadiohia will do a greater job than US helocopter

rawpadgin:
each time i hear Nigerian science students bragging about their certificate i just laugh

the mentality of an average Nigerian science student is.... after graduation get employed in a company that pays 200k per month, then get married

while the U.S science students are thinking of the next machine to invent

As ugly as that may sound, you are damn right bro!

The United States has said that it refused to sell its Cobra helicopters to Nigeria due to concerns about the Nigeria’s military ability to use and maintain them.

Abi weyrey ni US nii, shey na free we wan collect am. How did boko haram knows how to use the weapons stole from the military?

rawpadgin:
each time i hear Nigerian science students bragging about their certificate i just laugh

the mentality of an average Nigerian science student is.... after graduation get employed in a company that pays 200k per month, then get married

while the U.S science students are thinking of the next machine to invent

Passion keh? Only JAMB and post UTME will kill any passion you have for a particular discipline, because you"ll find someone who passionately wanted to study chemical engineering for instance, being given Industrial chemistry or just chemistry even. Its that bad.

Dy probably do not wan dis insurgency to end anytym soon....cuz all dis baseless excuses are irrelevant...human rights violatn ma foot...mtcheew

then teach them how to maintain it if they really want to help. US relationship with Nigeria is driven by fear. as Nigeria moves stronger day by day, more tension is created in the US.

PhockPhockMan:
You're right. The cold war between Nigeria America really started during Yar,adua regime when American government requested that we grant them the permission to establish a military base in Nigeria. The plan got resistance from Nigerians which embarrassed them without measure hence their decision split the country through boko haram. Because they've realized that Nigeria is difficult to manipulate as presently constituted. So anybody who think America will help in dismantling what they built must be dreaming. That's why I want the current president to stay till 2019, so that he will implement in full his laudable foreign policy. I know you won't agree with me, but this the nakedt truth.

You may be right in your assertions but this president has nothing laudable to offer in foreign or in domestic policies, be honest.

rawpadgin:
each time i hear Nigerian science students bragging about their certificate i just laugh

the mentality of an average Nigerian science student is.... after graduation get employed in a company that pays 200k per month, then get married

while the U.S science students are thinking of the next machine to invent

....yea its true America is relentless,focus and dedicated...u av. No choice than to give it to them cause of their abilities

DaBullIT:


Your argument makes no sense Bro. Unlike Nigeria where people take pride in Aluu4 ,jungle justice , where human life and human right means nothing to anyone The US actually cares about safety and lives of its citizens and human right . Soldiers signed waivers during training and they get paid for the risks. Human rights watch did not complain about soldiers violating the rights of terrorists they complained about soldiers murdering innocent people .like a video where a man in military fatigue beheaded 6 suspected terrorists with his cutlass and they put them in a mass grave

Operating some weapons is not just load and cock and aim. Command bases , video streaming of live events , military satelites and every other factors work together for decision making in advanced countries . Also Most aeronautic engineers are mostly engineers by degree not by experience , What's the problem with Nigeria ? Maintenance culture. You buy you use you abandon . Furthermore if some members of the Nigerian army came out to say they cant shoot their brothers in Islam and they happily handed over weapons and armored tanks. That jet in the wrong hands is a disaster for Nigeria as a whole


I guess my point is that the USA has the moral and psychological obligation not to provide a weapon of mini mass destruction to Nigeria as long as barbarians are still in charge , and as long as soldiers are defecting to boko haram camps .

Sooooo,who's side are you on¿

Their FADA!!! We no go fit maintain abi? Their FADA!!!

American has so brainwashed their citizens to the extent they feel they can brainwash other people too. They are on a long thing. Equipments we are buying with our money why worry if we can maintain them.

Since they refused to sell military hardware to Nigeria and also block Nigeria's black arm purchase in south africa, they taught we won't know what they are up to and now that it is clear we know the game they are playing at and as Nigeria is about to turn to Russia they started giving out lame excuses expecting us to believe them.

To hell with the idiot called paski

sauceny:


Sooooo,who's side are you on¿

I no use grammar nah you suppose understand say I dey USA side for this matter , FG has failed in protecting Nigerians. Soldiers dey leave armored tank and weapons boko haram , Boko haram dey enter police college for free nobody challenge them. If US allow that kin weapon/jet. some monkey fit leave am for their boko brudas and if everything wey hear Na true. Boko haram fit rent one Jihadist and jobless ex-Libyan pilot make he come use jet destroy other places for the country

He don clear you now ? There's no shame in asking nice bruv. One love

DaBullIT:


Your argument makes no sense Bro. Unlike Nigeria where people take pride in Aluu4 ,jungle justice , where human life and human right means nothing to anyone The US actually cares about safety and lives of its citizens and human right . Soldiers signed waivers during training and they get paid for the risks. Human rights watch did not complain about soldiers violating the rights of terrorists they complained about soldiers murdering innocent people .like a video where a man in military fatigue beheaded 6 suspected terrorists with his cutlass and they put them in a mass grave

Operating some weapons is not just load and cock and aim. Command bases , video streaming of live events , military satelites and every other factors work together for decision making in advanced countries . Also Most aeronautic engineers are mostly engineers by degree not by experience , What's the problem with Nigeria ? Maintenance culture. You buy you use you abandon . Furthermore if some members of the Nigerian army came out to say they cant shoot their brothers in Islam and they happily handed over weapons and armored tanks. That jet in the wrong hands is a disaster for Nigeria as a whole


I guess my point is that the USA has the moral and psychological obligation[b][/b] not to provide a weapon of mini mass destruction to Nigeria as long as barbarians are still in charge , and as long as soldiers are defecting to boko haram camps .

So how do you explain why the USA is arming Syrian rebels, supplying arms with of billions per year to Saudi Arabia the No 1 human right abuser in the world? Explain what is moral about all these.

sholatech:
Think I'm lost...the Cobra helicopters are to be bought as stated, or leased? We wanted to buy with our money and someone worried we cant maintain them? How ma y cars have we been buying from Us- we don't maintain them and we still buy them regularly!

The fact of the matter is... on a very serious matter, we've seen situations where weaponries that we have have found their ways to the hands of the boko guys and in this day and age, before u know it can also get to the hands of ISIS, u never can tell. I am not an American, I hate their ways as much u do, but come to think of it, would u produce and equipment that will eventual become your nightmare? In my own opinion Nigeria should look elsewhere, rather than this blame game that we are doing and losing grounds.

The US of all people is in no place to question the human rights of terrorists...

Guantanamo bay,salt pit et al are there to be looked into so they shouldn't be hypocritical about that...

About the mishandling of the weapon,that is still a bit understandable as it can be stolen/hijacked at any time and used ulteriorly


But its a known fact that the US is usually apprehensive of countries with nuclear aspirations
An example is China whose new stealth J-31 weapon was said to be a cheap model of their F-22 and F-35's... I wonder whatever happened to their keeping silent and observing

simplemach:
4k U.S and everything about dem

bros calm down ! lemme discuss wt obama first.

Its plausible but unreasonable to think that. Yes we are piss poor at maintenance but who buys arms for the long term anyway. We just want our military to put down the insurgency (not my idea), clear our heads then take a comprehensive look towards rebuilding the entire security forces. The choppers to me are merely a stop gap.

Secondly just how sophisticated is the Cobra. The platform is mid fifties, upgraded several times since. It has an excellent combat record and is favoured by the marines to deploy and extract under pressure. But we donot have 'marines'. Its not our TRADOC. We don't operate that way.

When you consider what we have, the russian Mi-34's its family, they are more rugged, equally proven, much cheaper to buy and run and very importantly is and remains the best hovering weapons platform in the world. The down side. Speed, agility and ergonomics are poor. So great for infantry, terrible for marines.

The question is. In view of this new type of assymetrical warfare we are waging. Is our military on the throes of evolution. If so the Americans are wrong. We will get to use their equipment, if not let us just stick to what we are familiar with. Even when a man is completely blinded. It doesn't take hunger for his hand to find his mouth.