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Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by 24in7: 9:37am On Nov 15, 2014
I pity my country, if we d'nt hv arms 2defeat common BH, wat of a case her enemies attack frm other countries,




Naija afrika gaint indeed
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by FEMoxylian: 9:40am On Nov 15, 2014
US knows what they are doing..Bokoharam could bomb it down or seize it from the military and use it to capure more towns in the north east.

May God help us..
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by Nobody: 9:40am On Nov 15, 2014
chamboy:
All d Naija fools calling Us BH sponsor, If dem give any of dem USA passport them no go even do next minute for naija.... Nigerians n Mixed priorities
how does acquisition of US passport concern the subject matter
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by mmark12(m): 9:41am On Nov 15, 2014
Nigerians are the own worst enemies, is it by force for America to sell its state of art weapons to a Banana Republic that is more likely to use those weapons for political thuggery and oppression of its citizens than fight BOKO HARAM.

all the AK47 Nigerian troops carry about are already from Russia, so go and buy from them or even China, SK, France, Germany.

Nigerians on Nairaland hate America because they are very jealous, vindictive people of America's success. if given the chance to immigrate to US, they will be first to race to US consulate like cockroaches
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by patrickkkk:
Pls let no one blame U.S A For its refusal to sell its cobra helicopter technology to Nigeria. If this pains Nigeria, let Nigeria go and die (in Oshiomhole's voice ). Nig has refused to learn from 1960 to date. What about the Nigerians that had attempted building manned helicopters in d 1970(s), 1980(s ) to date? Atleast I know of one whom by name is called OKALI from Ondo state who attempted building manned helicopter in d late 1970(s ) or 1980(s) I can't remember precisely though I met with him personally. There is another one that attempted it in d early 1990( s) who happened to b a senior brother to my friend, he is also from Ondo state . The manned helicopter he built was done in Afolabi premises in Akure Ondo state. The manned helicopter flew some feet high and d project could not be perfected because of lack of fund and because d people(citizens) did not believe in his project. They said why would they invest in his project when Nig has d money to buy one ( helicopter) easily from other countries. If Nigeria's government and its citizens had encouraged these talented citizens then in "CASH " probably sponsoring them abroad to learn more about d flying object thing, 20yr or 30yr after, Nig gov may not be here spewing out d rubbish its saying. If d statement made by U.S of A pains Nig, let Nigeria put together its best brains who may be currently jobless together and build its own Helicopter. SIMPLE!!!
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by mmark12(m): 9:42am On Nov 15, 2014
Onmason:
More comedy. The GIANTS OF AFRICA can't produce weapons? Too bad. The reasons given here are rubbish. U.S knows the weapons are not meant to fight boko haram. So America should come and defeat boko haram when we have been told that every attack strategy discussed is leaked to boko haram by some Nigerian soldiers? Some of the uniforms and weaponsused by BH belong to the Nigerian. Army! Let's wake up from this slumber, GOVT is not SERIOUS about fighting boko haram. PERIOD!!
Nigeria is indeed the Giant of Africa, BUT WITH ONE TESTICLE
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by lucianohase(m): 9:57am On Nov 15, 2014
OLADD:
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Damn too bad. What an insult! Nigerian military lacks the technical wherewithal to use military helicopter and this insane US wants the world to believe such trash?
To add insult to injury, the US wants to preach the gospel of human right to us. Where was human right when they unilaterally invaded Iraq without UN sanction? Where was the so-called human right when thousands of Iraqis were killed under the hoax of Weapon of Mass Destruction that later turned out to be the greatest lie of the century? It's high time we realised that the United States is not our friend.
Explicit...well said! But its good that things like this happen some times, so that we will know that these westerners have always been pretending to wish us good.that's one..Secondly,for us (nigerians)to know that In everything they say,they have double standards. Thirdly,It should make our government to look inwards to see that we have innovative minds in all the geopolitical zones in nigeria and finance them. Instead of spending monies on worthless things that won't build this country and make it strong in all areas. In addition,continous financing of research and development in different areas of our economy is what we need to prevent such let down and to be self sufficient. Besides,we still have Russia and China to buy from.....I just hope we learn from this!!
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by b3llo(m): 10:04am On Nov 15, 2014
brainpower:
My brother, technically US owes him protection cos they are the world power and get involved where any country is being threatened by war or violence. Boko haram has been designated a terrorist group so US should come in. And moreover, we want to buy these aircrafts, its not dash as so to we won't return them in good form. They are ours.

America is just beating about the bush. They killed Gaddafi in cold blood, they were sponsoring ISIS before but now ISIS has gotten out of control. We refused to legalize same sex marriage and thses are the reasons why they stopped buying our oil and don't want to sell arms. If we decide to build our own military equipments they will make sure they frustrate it with the help of the UN. US are opportunists and every country in the world can see them as such and that's why they facing so much opposition.
This your name suits you analyst.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by rhames(m): 10:14am On Nov 15, 2014
One excuse per every press briefing. if its not human rights abuse,it is something else. They onCE said our version of Ebola cure was a pesticide. Today they are fighting Ebola with their own developed drug and its not working. without their sophisticated weapons, we are still holding out in the war against terror and our International missions. GOD BLESS NIGERIA. AMEN
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by major466(m): 10:23am On Nov 15, 2014
WE DECLINE NIGERIA'S REQUEST FOR COBRA HELICOPTERS BECAUSE WE FEAR THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO USE AND MAINTAIN IT. - USA

Well am not surprised by their ridiculous excuse. They won't want us to finish what they started. Afterall their dream is to see Nigeria disintegrate into pieces. Anything the US touches never remain the same again. Nigeria must review it's policy with the US. We need to stay away from them as far as possible. Look at what they did to Haiti and Liberia. The US is not a friend.
China is a much better ally.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by GlorifiedTunde(m): 10:30am On Nov 15, 2014
Ichiato:
@the first bolded, you expect me then to believe what I don't and question what I do see? What then is irrationality?
@second bolded, are you joking? Does the above list justify what they do to innocent lives? For one if they don't have weapons and no intelligence they can start by at least telling there citizens the truth. Not shekau is dead this minute and the next thing shekau is mounting insurgency in the north. They tell lies every day. Even the US has accused our military of not been transparent with them and we ourselves cannot prove otherwise. How then do we expect them to corporate with us.
At the bolded I used "always" meaning there are exceptions. Not all we see or appear to be true is and not all unseen things should be doubted.

On the second, nothing justifies killing the innocent. All im trying to say is if you were in their shoes, youll be a different person, with a different thinking. How easy it is for ua to criticize while not in others shoes - fighting for a cause you know nothing about, and probably cant win or die in the process; like your life was gambled off.

And US, i could careless about them. The shekau being killed story, we all still don't know the truth.

As complex as the issue is, let uncle sam stop playing under the guise that they're helping. We saw it in the Ebola issue. So we'll just handle it our own way.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by manutdadex(m): 10:34am On Nov 15, 2014
Rexnegro:
People wey no well them ...I don't blame them o ...when ebola hit them na we teach them how to go about it o..now make they sell weapon to us they say no as if na free they want give us before...olori buruku them
na free b d helicoptershuh Wetin concern dem concern maintainance? Na their money?? Useless excuses!!
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by bravehost4u(m): 10:39am On Nov 15, 2014
Imperialist!!!
America

Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by smallsmall: 10:42am On Nov 15, 2014
lomaxx:
Where was Adefuye when America was learning how to make weapons? See as the man is talking like USA owe him a duty to protect his country for him.
Sharrap my friend, We are not asking them to dash us, we are PAYING FOR IT!

Every Nation, including the powerful and advance ones, buy such things from other Nations!
Was it not just today that Russia was complaining that the Mistral Class Warship it PAID FRANCE for, was not being delivered as schedules since France is now reneging on the sale?

If you have the money, you pay for it.
Buying and selling no be today e start.

Anyway, excuse proffered is very poor, especially coming from that Witch woman called Psaki.... u need to see the way she scatter Ukraine, through her lies ...and she was caught on tape!

Poor Professional.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by manutdadex(m): 10:44am On Nov 15, 2014
Caseless:
u jst made sense for the first time, phock. That doesn't mean ur gej is d man...he's too soft to face america.
so Buhari wil gp hard on U.s? Weere una sa one finish dis country!! Now i see reasons y Gej is goin tru ilegal means to get weapons!
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by manutdadex(m): 10:49am On Nov 15, 2014
RFella:
Passion keh? Only JAMB and post UTME will kill any passion you have for a particular discipline, because you"ll find someone who passionately wanted to study chemical engineering for instance, being given Industrial chemistry or just chemistry even. Its that bad.
in Nigeria we celebrate Grades nt innovations!! Anyone can read his ass off and get first class but d intelligent ones are killd morally!!
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by successking: 10:53am On Nov 15, 2014
Human right violations! Where is Guantanamo bay located?

I have said it before and i will say it over and over again that if the sponsorship of BH in Nigeria is well investigated, there is tendency of establishing a link to US in retaliation to Nigeria's refusal to follow all her evil policies including but not limited to the following:

1. Nigeria bluntly refused to allow US establish her Military Base in Nigeria
2. Nigeria stopped the payment of any contract in crude oil
3. Nigeria rejected monetary policies recommended by Wold Bank and IMF
4. Nigeria signed into law an act criminalizing same sex marriage

and so on.

Just like we defeated Ebola we will defeat BH without US cobra and other military hardware.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by Nobody: 10:55am On Nov 15, 2014
Just picture this;

I walked into Coscharis Autos shop in VI, and demand a quote to purchase a 2014 Range Rover and Coscharis Autos refuses to sell to me because they doubt my ability to service and maintain the car.

No, I think wants Boko Haram to kill more innocent persons so they can have excuse to invade us all and activate their AFRICOM Agenda. And to note that this is happening in an Era that a Black man of African descent is President of United States is just shocking.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by koolg:
bandisandi:
They raised two reasons for not selling weapons to Nigeria.
1: Nigeria military has been abusing the natural human rights of these terrorists
2: Nigeria military lacks the technical-know-how to handle the so called sophisticated weapon..

MY REPLY
1- why should soldiers respect their right when they themselves are denying others the ultimate right toLIFE. I say to hell with their rightz.
2- How sophisticated can a weapon be that people won't know how to use ithuh Are they judging level of intelligence by skin colourhuh

In short, US is doing these because they still felt hurt about how Nigeria was not transparent with them when they imported expertise and services to Nigeria. It dents a great blow on their reputation that the almighty US Can't locate and rescue kidnapped girls in the forest.
TOO BAAAAD!!!
With insight, you will see that what they refer to isn't technical ability but the moral ability of nigeria. And they're 100% right. Many examples abound to show you that nigeria lacks the moral ability to maintain those devices. Rather than blame america, it should be seen as a wake up call but no, our leaders and their cronies take million to go and campaign on cnn for prestige.

We need a re oriented government, not all these saTANs. *so sad*
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by shurl4(m): 10:59am On Nov 15, 2014
PhockPhockMan:
. That's why I want the current president to stay till 2019, so that he will implement in full his laudable foreign policy. I know you won't agree with me, but this the nakedt truth.
So the president should stay for four more years just to implement "laudable" foreign policy?
I don't understand what the issue is with Nigerians to be honest!!!!
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by Forwetinnah: 11:02am On Nov 15, 2014
As una no gree sell Cobra own, we dey go buy Python undecided
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by ttmacoy: 11:03am On Nov 15, 2014
Yes Nigerian military lack the technical know how. beating civilians you should be protecting around doesn't make you a professional fighting force. Burning buses on ikorodu road are not the signs of a professional military.

We saw the news recently of the hundreds of people released by the nigerian army after being arrested as boko haram suspects. Those were the lucky ones how many would have been killed innocently all in the name of boko haram. Whilst boko haram must be stopped, human rights must not be trampled on as that is a fundamental foundation of a sane society. The rule of law must apply, but in Nigeria it is the rule of anything goes.

I saw a documentary on the abuse by the army and it is appaling.

If the Nigerian army were so technically advanced then let them develop our own weapons and stop begging around.

Why is is now we are trying to equip our army? Closing the door after the horse has bolted.

When you show you can maintain your international airport, the myriad of bad roads all around the country, maintain a national airline, provide functioning accommodation for youth corper, maintain proper barracks for soldiers then let's talk about how you can maintain high tech weapons.

I will not be suprised if the helicopters end up with boko haram or worse end up as scrap in a yard in a couple of years time. How many planes does the Nigerian airforce have?



bandisandi:
They raised two reasons for not selling weapons to Nigeria.
1: Nigeria military has been abusing the natural human rights of these terrorists
2: Nigeria military lacks the technical-know-how to handle the so called sophisticated weapon..

MY REPLY
1- why should soldiers respect their right when they themselves are denying others the ultimate right toLIFE. I say to hell with their rightz.
2- How sophisticated can a weapon be that people won't know how to use ithuh Are they judging level of intelligence by skin colourhuh
In short, US is doing these because they still felt hurt about how Nigeria was not transparent with them when they imported expertise and services to Nigeria. It dents a great blow on their reputation that the almighty US Can't locate and rescue kidnapped girls in the forest.
TOO BAAAAD!!!
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by RFella(m): 11:03am On Nov 15, 2014
manutdadex:
in Nigeria we celebrate Grades nt innovations!! Anyone can read his ass off and get first class but d intelligent ones are killd morally!!
I agree with you
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by chamboy(m): 11:08am On Nov 15, 2014
mmark12:
Nigerians are the own worst enemies, is it by force for America to sell its state of art weapons to a Banana Republic that is more likely to use those weapons for political thuggery and oppression of its citizens than fight BOKO HARAM.

all the AK47 Nigerian troops carry about are already from Russia, so go and buy from them or even China, SK, France, Germany.

Nigerians on Nairaland hate America because they are very jealous, vindictive people of America's success. if given the chance to immigrate to US, they will be first to race to US consulate like cockroaches
Nigerians hating on USA must b highly foolish. Y would Rat b hating on Lion
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by chamboy(m): 11:11am On Nov 15, 2014
Billyonaire:
Just picture this;

I walked into Coscharis Autos shop in VI, and demand a quote to purchase a 2014 Range Rover and Coscharis Autos refuses to sell to me because they doubt my ability to service and maintain the car.

No, I think wants Boko Haram to kill more innocent persons so they can have excuse to invade us all and activate their AFRICOM Agenda. And to note that this is happening in an Era that a Black man of African descent is President of United States is just shocking.
Bro ur imagination baffles me Aswear. Do u fink if the Whites wants to wipe off the entire black race it would cost dem anything
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by ttmacoy: 11:12am On Nov 15, 2014
You sound like of those nano silver believes.

For your information Nigeria handled ebola with the help of the CDC based in America and for your information aside the index case of Duncan, America has treated every other ebola cases unlike Nigeria where 50% died.

Nigerians have perfected the art of blaming everyone and everything for the failure of its people and government. Blame witch in village, blame devil, blame America, but never blame mediocrity .

I'm a sane country there would be questions asked as to why our army is so poorly equipped. What has happened to all the defense budget for the past yearshuh Has it all been stolen or arw we saying the government purposely did not equip the army?

Nigeria budgeted $2.3bn for defense in 2013 after years of average increase of 20% since 2007. What has been done with the money as we know families of soldiers who died in service were not getting their entitlements
Wh ere is all the money going?

Instead it's blame game. Continue blaming America and don't cox the rot in your country. You blame America for everything yet everyday queue at their embassy.


Rexnegro:
People wey no well them ...I don't blame them o ...when ebola hit them na we teach them how to go about it o..now make they sell weapon to us they say no as if na free they want give us before...olori buruku them
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by Nobody: 11:13am On Nov 15, 2014
GlorifiedTunde:
At the bolded I used "always" meaning there are exceptions. Not all we see or appear to be true is and not all unseen things should be doubted.

On the second, nothing justifies killing the innocent. All im trying to say is if you were in their shoes, youll be a different person, with a different thinking. How easy it is for ua to criticize while not in others shoes - fighting for a cause you know nothing about, and probably cant win or die in the process; like your life was gambled off.

And US, i could careless about them. The shekau being killed story, we all still don't know the truth.

As complex as the issue is, let uncle sam stop playing under the guise that they're helping. We saw it in the Ebola issue. So we'll just handle it our own way.
It seems like you have a personal beef with the US.
First of, @ your first bolded. You still don't get it, what makes you then think that what you have read between the line is the truth that you're suddenly critical of the US.

@ your second bolded. I might not be sure of many things but I'm hell sure I won't sit around and tell lies to the public and turn around and blame someone else.

You are right about no one knowing the truth about the shekau been killed story, but you know why? Because our military and leaders are employing the Sidon look attitude. This I think is the fourth time they are claiming to have killed shekau. What about the ceasefire that was never existent. Just a month back, they made Nigerians feel we are almost winning the war and many on nairaland here were even boosting that we should not agree to any ceasefire and show no Mercy on BH. In a matter of weeks there is no ceasefire and BH seems to have even gotten deadlier. All I ask from our military is transparency first. Just tell us Nigerians the truth.

The issue of Ebola is also another case of how people blindly critize the US. The US also had their very own home grown case of Ebola and did they use the so called drugs? No. Y? Because the drugs is still experimental. Instead they had to use the same treatment of blood therapy which is exactly also what Nigeria used and still has no guaranty of survival and yet people still criticize. You should also try taking your advise. Maybe if you put yourself in the shoes of America and a country like Nigeria comes to you for such favour you would do worse
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by manutdadex(m): 11:13am On Nov 15, 2014
mmark12:
hahaha, Nigeria is indeed a moving train to the bottom of the ocean - OLODO

If they give u a US passport, u probably be the first person to run away from the Banana Republic of Nigeria - HYPOCRITE
u curse d land and yet u want to reapd fruit of d land?? Nigeria is movin, and we wil leave guys like u behind....cowards!! See wetin u call ur country! Omo ale
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by Heart2heart(m): 11:14am On Nov 15, 2014
I went to border to buy camry 2000, the Cotonou car dealer refused to sell to me, sayin that ihe is afraid, I can't drive and maintain the car. Story for the gods.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by blakky97(m): 11:19am On Nov 15, 2014
bandisandi:
They raised two reasons for not selling weapons to Nigeria.
1: Nigeria military has been abusing the natural human rights of these terrorists
2: Nigeria military lacks the technical-know-how to handle the so called sophisticated weapon..

MY REPLY
1- why should soldiers respect their right when they themselves are denying others the ultimate right toLIFE. I say to hell with their rightz.
2- How sophisticated can a weapon be that people won't know how to use ithuh Are they judging level of intelligence by skin colourhuh
In short, US is doing these because they still felt hurt about how Nigeria was not transparent with them when they imported expertise and services to Nigeria. It dents a great blow on their reputation that the almighty US Can't locate and rescue kidnapped girls in the forest.
TOO BAAAAD!!!
if by any chance the boko boys get hold of that helicopter maybe due to the loop holes and agents they have in the army, that will be an opportunity to transport that weapon to their al qaeda sponsors who will study the technology, improve on it, and use it against people. Its simple intelligence.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by Originalsly: 11:23am On Nov 15, 2014
BH somehow get whatever they want from the military.....guns, APC's, arms and ammunition and tanks.They capture them by raiding the bases....take them when "abandoned" by the army....or handed to them by sympathisers or insiders. BH don't have jet fighters because they don't want...they'll have to build airstrips. Attack helicopters they will be delighted to have. .......and will get if the military ever vets any. I am sure BH is most angry at the US not making the helicopters available....and on second thought...I wonder if BH insiders are really behind the helicopter deal?
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by MightyFortress: 11:24am On Nov 15, 2014
rawpadgin:
each time i hear Nigerian science students bragging about their certificate i just laugh

the mentality of an average Nigerian science student is.... after graduation get employed in a company that pays 200k per month, then get married

while the U.S science students are thinking of the next machine to invent
you must be rather stupid to say what u did...
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