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Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by ocelot2006(m): 12:25pm On Nov 15, 2014
DaBullIT:
Your argument makes no sense Bro. Unlike Nigeria where people take pride in Aluu4 ,jungle justice , where human life and human right means nothing to anyone The US actually cares about safety and lives of its citizens and human right . Soldiers signed waivers during training and they get paid for the risks. Human rights watch did not complain about soldiers violating the rights of terrorists they complained about soldiers murdering innocent people .like a video where a man in military fatigue beheaded 6 suspected terrorists with his cutlass and they put them in a mass grave

Operating some weapons is not just load and cock and aim. Command bases , video streaming of live events , military satelites and every other factors work together for decision making in advanced countries . Also Most aeronautic engineers are mostly engineers by degree not by experience , What's the problem with Nigeria ? Maintenance culture. You buy you use you abandon . Furthermore if some members of the Nigerian army came out to say they cant shoot their brothers in Islam and they happily handed over weapons and armored tanks. That jet in the wrong hands is a disaster for Nigeria as a whole


I guess my point is that the USA has the moral and psychological obligation not to provide a weapon of mini mass destruction to Nigeria as long as barbarians are still in charge , and as long as soldiers are defecting to boko haram camps .
What's all this crap talk about live streaming, data links, and all what not? We are talking about the AH-6 Cobra Attack helicopter, NOT the AH-64 Apache or the B -2 Spirit stealth bomber or some space ship. Again, keep in mind that we've been operating the UH-1 helo for decades, a platform on which the AH-6 was built.

Btw, you make it sound as if establishing a data link is something out of this world, when the Nigerian Air Force has been using same for their drones for years now. Don't forget that we've designed and launched our own observation and Communication satellites (delivery vehicles exclusive) in both low earth orbits (LEO) and much farther geosynchronous orbit.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by Nobody: 12:27pm On Nov 15, 2014
mmark12:
the same nairalanders u side with to badmouth the US will jealous your US credential. so dont grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
What is there to jealous.?
The head of my dept in a major multinational oil coy is a unilag graduate.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by major466(m): 12:28pm On Nov 15, 2014
mmark12:
Too much ignorance, lies is not good for your health grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

what developments if i may ask? power, road, the useless airports(dont dare compare them with heathrow grin grin)

BANANA REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA - piss out
We may not have an airport that looks like Heathrow but we have something worth celebrating. Nigeria is one of the fastest developing countries in the world. Why don't you come over and let me give you a tour round the country? I promise You wouldn't want to go back. Nigeria is on the move.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by chamboy(m): 12:31pm On Nov 15, 2014
major466:
We may not have an airport that looks like Heathrow but we have something worth celebrating. Nigeria is one of the fastest developing countries in the world. Why don't you come over and let me give you a tour round the country? I promise You wouldn't want to go back. Nigeria is on the move.
Chairman u killed it all, I have die oooo.
Pls sir can u state d set of developing countries Nigeria belong to
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by ocelot2006(m): 12:33pm On Nov 15, 2014
Onmason:
More comedy. The GIANTS OF AFRICA can't produce weapons? Too bad. The reasons given here are rubbish. U.S knows the weapons are not meant to fight boko haram. So America should come and defeat boko haram when we have been told that every attack strategy discussed is leaked to boko haram by some Nigerian soldiers? Some of the uniforms and weaponsused by BH belong to the Nigerian. Army! Let's wake up from this slumber, GOVT is not SERIOUS about fighting boko haram. PERIOD!!
No, we can't produce weapons.....just...

Pistols (Beretta M9, Browning Hi-Power)
Rifles (AK-47/Type 56, FN-FAL)
General Purpose Machine Guns
Rocket Propelled Grenades
Grenades
APCs (Igirigi, Proforce vehicles, Mekahog)
Tactical Vests
Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (Amebo series)

Yep...We can't produce any weapons..
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by brainpower(m): 12:34pm On Nov 15, 2014
revolt:
mallam mentality.. Whether they r a world power is no excuse. If we cannot build simple tanks den our engineers and scientists are useless. I googled arabs and ud be shocked what they build, same wif indians. Chinese, even libya inder ghadaffi was buildn hi tech machines( those useless oyibos killed one of africas best leaders), SA is building ie the whytes there etc what's wrong with the black race. Biafra was the only time the black man started creating, perhaps wed have been miles ahead by now.

The aprtheid last leader in a speech made some remarks about the black race ie only good for marryn wives, sex, and making babies. Never manipulating his environment to suit his needs, rather just existing.

Our useless ambassador wasn't evn ashamed to accuse US. Like US owes us a duty to sell arms.
First of all I'm not a mallam and not from the north and I wouldn't have replied you cos I see people that insult others as children.
If you read my write up you will see that the place we differ is when it comes to US oweing him. We can decide to build ours but cos Africa keeps depending on them for aids we wouldn't do that so that we won't provoke them. That's why I stated the anti gay law whcih they are not happy with us. We have a long way to go. What about the fact that we are not begging for the aircrafts but buying them?
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by mmark12(m): 12:34pm On Nov 15, 2014
F117AA:
What is there to jealous.?
The head of my dept in a major multinational oil coy is a unilag graduate.
so? not my busines
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by ocelot2006(m): 12:36pm On Nov 15, 2014
InvertedHammer:
Nigeria engineers are sophisticated.
Nigeria engineers are this...Nigeria engineers are that.


Well...then build your own fvcking weapons!

Goddamn Nigerians take pride in knowing zilch.

Check the arrogance in folks whose eng Iineers cannot build a freaking slingshot.

Nobody owes you shlt


US should not sell weapons to Nigeria. If Nigerians cannot develop and build their own weapons, let them perish. Those US folks get 2 heads?

And when oyibo tells u that u are a bunch of monkeys, you will feel slighted. Yet you behave as one.

/
No, we can't produce weapons.....just...

Pistols (Beretta M9, Browning Hi-Power)
Rifles (AK-47/Type 56, FN-FAL)
General Purpose Machine Guns
Rocket Propelled Grenades
Grenades
APCs (Igirigi, Proforce vehicles, Mekahog)
Tactical Vests
Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (Amebo series)

Yep...We can't produce any weapons..
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by major466(m): 12:38pm On Nov 15, 2014
chamboy:
Chairman u killed it all, I have die oooo.
Pls sir can u state d developing set of countries Nigeria belong to
You dont have to kill yourself over my claim. The datas are there in the Federal Ministry of Finance website. Not even Boko Haram is enough to slow down Nigeria's economic strides during the last four years.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by Nobody: 12:41pm On Nov 15, 2014
GlorifiedTunde:
They're not allegations. Google is your friend bro. Don't be lazy.

Plus not every issue is out there on the web for a reference. Conspiracies are top.

You didn't even bother. Google bio piracy or US -IRAQ conspiracy or....

Just go an find it yourself. You must be born in 1990s
Please, you're the one who has something to prove. I can't go out and look for something I know does not exist. You sure they exist? Then prove it.
Not every issue is out there on the web? Please just give me reasons why I should believe those allegations or better still give me reasons why you believe them and I prove to you that your reasons are irrational.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by Tunmich: 12:44pm On Nov 15, 2014
PhockPhockMan:
You need brain injection. Can any foreign body achieve anything without local collaboration? Boko haram has local and foreign interests which includes religion, foreign, ethnic, political, etc. If you check APC main campaign point is all about security, security, security, without any hint of the way they will solve the matter, because they believe that they're capable of ordering them to stop when they gets the presidency.
APC is the greatest supporters of boko haram.
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Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by saintneo(m):
ferdimako:
So? And u still get mouth to abuse ur mates in d US? Smd...That ur excuse no count...go manufacture ur needs nor!
I believe you lack comprehension skills. You must be in love with your dïçk to be 'smd' vigorously.

If you are looking for whom to have a banter with I recommend the nearest toilet in your neighbourhood.

By the way, watch out for Yellowfin® we will amaze you soon.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by NaijaDoWell: 12:50pm On Nov 15, 2014
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bandisandi:
In short, US is doing these because they still felt hurt about how Nigeria was not transparent with them when they imported expertise and services to Nigeria. It dents a great blow on their reputation that the almighty US Can't locate and rescue kidnapped girls in the forest.
TOO BAAAAD!!!
USA, and indeed the western world, is afraid of Nigeria's potentials. Their ONLY interest now is to see Nigeria split to pieces in 2015 so that we will no longer be a threat to them.
Besides, is there any country USA entered to fight a war and left the country in one piece? Ask Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc. Thanks to Nigerian govt for not allowing the USA to come into the country to effect their prediction of 2015 split of Nigeria.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by Caseless: 12:51pm On Nov 15, 2014
manutdadex:
so Buhari wil gp hard on U.s? Weere una sa one finish dis country!! Now i see reasons y Gej is goin tru ilegal means to get weapons!
did i say buhari wil go against d US? I'm sure he wil stand his ground against them like he did b4.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by chamboy(m): 1:00pm On Nov 15, 2014
major466:
You dont have to kill yourself over my claim. The datas are there in the Federal Ministry of Finance website. Not even Boko Haram is enough to slow down Nigeria's economic strides during the last four years.
ehen ehen
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by delors(m): 1:00pm On Nov 15, 2014
rawpadgin:
each time i hear Nigerian science students bragging about their certificate i just laugh

the mentality of an average Nigerian science student is.... after graduation get employed in a company that pays 200k per month, then get married

while the U.S science students are thinking of the next machine to invent
And what are you thinking of o, our Mr The-Mentality-of-an-Average-Nigerian-Science-Student-is? How many spoons have u invented talk less of a torchlight?
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by chamboy(m): 1:01pm On Nov 15, 2014
NaijaDoWell:
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USA, and indeed the western world, is afraid of Nigeria's potentials. Their ONLY interest now is to see Nigeria split to pieces in 2015 so that we will no longer be a threat to them.
Besides, is there any country USA entered to fight a war and left the country in one piece? Ask Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc. Thanks to Nigerian govt for not allowing the USA to come into the country to effect their prediction of 2015 split of Nigeria.
Jesu.... Nigeria Potential indeed
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by chamboy(m): 1:06pm On Nov 15, 2014
NaijaDoWell:
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USA, and indeed the western world, is afraid of Nigeria's potentials. Their ONLY interest now is to see Nigeria split to pieces in 2015 so that we will no longer be a threat to them.
Besides, is there any country USA entered to fight a war and left the country in one piece? Ask Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc. Thanks to Nigerian govt for not allowing the USA to come into the country to effect their prediction of 2015 split of Nigeria.
pls sir, can u tell me the year at which Nigeria would Attain d level of their so called potential
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by mmark12(m): 1:07pm On Nov 15, 2014
NaijaDoWell:
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USA, and indeed the western world, is afraid of Nigeria's potentials. Their ONLY interest now is to see Nigeria split to pieces in 2015 so that we will no longer be a threat to them.
Besides, is there any country USA entered to fight a war and left the country in one piece? Ask Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc. Thanks to Nigerian govt for not allowing the USA to come into the country to effect their prediction of 2015 split of Nigeria.
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

IF Nigeria collapses, I pray its does not, Its Nigerians that will be blamed. Nigerians, NOT Americans, elects corrupted politicians;
U demand bribes, punish the innocent and sing praises to corrupt politicians, deny freedom, liberty, peace to the innocents; Kill the innocents because for the pursuit wealth, divert money meant for development to private account.

WHAT DO U EXPECT THAT ALL WILL BE WELL, BULLSHIT, INTO THIS VACUUM BOKO HARAM, POVERTY, MISERY HAS ARRIVED.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by LuqmanG: 1:10pm On Nov 15, 2014
science abi,9ija silent student...CRAPS
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by LuqmanG: 1:14pm On Nov 15, 2014
rawpadgin:
each time i hear Nigerian science students bragging about their certificate i just laugh

the mentality of an average Nigerian science student is.... after graduation get employed in a company that pays 200k per month, then get married

while the U.S science students are thinking of the next machine to invent
Science abi silent student b of craps
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by Nobody: 1:14pm On Nov 15, 2014
ocelot2006:
What's all this crap talk about live streaming, data links, and all what not? We are talking about the AH-6 Cobra Attack helicopter, NOT the AH-64 Apache or the B -2 Spirit stealth bomber or some space ship. Again, keep in mind that we've been operating the UH-1 helo for decades, a platform on which the AH-6 was built.

Btw, you make it sound as if establishing a data link is something out of this world, when the Nigerian Air Force has been using same for their drones for years now. Don't forget that we've designed and launched our own observation and Communication satellites (delivery vehicles exclusive) in both low earth orbits (LEO) and much farther geosynchronous orbit.
My friend go and sit down jor. Didn't you see the news yesterday? Nigerian military Air force crashed another helicopter. Yes another, this is not the first time. Even common plane in our aviation industry is a problem to maintain. You here spilling rubbish
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by kayusbrown(m): 1:19pm On Nov 15, 2014
rawpadgin:
each time i hear Nigerian science students bragging about their certificate i just laugh

the mentality of an average Nigerian science student is.... after graduation get employed in a company that pays 200k per month, then get married

while the U.S science students are thinking of the next machine to invent
Words on marble! You just hit the issue at its root.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by Nobody: 1:27pm On Nov 15, 2014
That reason is concrete enuf I think.maybe they foresee something we don't see.don't let us blame them.Nigeria is a stubborn country,if that thing get into wrong hands,hmmm na gobe o.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by MIKIDONZ(m): 1:50pm On Nov 15, 2014
US govt re some else, does dat mins de lend Nigeria $1b to squash just like dat, sell d helicopter to us nd forget about d maintenance stuff is non of US biz, min Y if US refused for d ammunition deal let Nigeria go to oda countries like Germany, Israel or Russia, l believe des countries has d same arms to sell
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by segnys007(m): 2:11pm On Nov 15, 2014
PhockPhockMan:
Either you're a serious supporter of boko haram or you need a A BRAIN INJECTION. Which America are you talking about? The one that established a torture Island called Guantamo Bay, massacred several thousand innocent people in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq etc, in their search for imaginary chemical weapons, terrorists and ultimately, Bin Laden. The invasion of Iraq without United nation isn't it a violation of human rights? We should not fall for America's old tricks of hiding under human rights violations to commit crimes. We all know the kind of evil state of Israel is committing on regular basis in middle east, yet, America remains their biggest supporter and biggest arms suppliers. What of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, despite reported human rights violations in those countries, America supplies them arms.
The bottom line is that America is not comfortable seeing the emergence of a strong African nation, economically, militarily and otherwise. Unfortunately for them, Nigeria is a moving train.
Which Nigeria? This one? Get your head out of the cloud! How is not selling them chopper to Nigeria impedes Nigeria's moving train? Make dem buy from another country nah!
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by shurl4(m): 2:15pm On Nov 15, 2014
PhockPhockMan:
During his declaration, he listed long list of his achievements which your APC masters couldn't disprove. Mind you, good foreign policies is long list of achievements.
To whom it may concern, I am not interested in nor affiliated to any party in Nigeria; APC, PDP, they are all the same. I'm yet to see any visionary leader come amongst the politicians you people kill yourselves for. Futhermore, I do not begrudge your choice in wanting GEJ to continue, I only asked to get tangible reasons for wanting him to continue. Lastly, please do not drag me into the shameless political fight going on here, I'm not interested. At the end of the day, whatever choices you guys make come 2015, you all will have to live with it.
Note to self: never comment on nairaland, it's full of religious, tribal and political bigots...
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by segnys007(m): 2:18pm On Nov 15, 2014
ocelot2006:
No, we can't produce weapons.....just...

Pistols (Beretta M9, Browning Hi-Power)
Rifles (AK-47/Type 56, FN-FAL)
General Purpose Machine Guns
Rocket Propelled Grenades
Grenades
APCs (Igirigi, Proforce vehicles, Mekahog)
Tactical Vests
Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (Amebo series)

Yep...We can't produce any weapons..
let Nigeria make the chopper then.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by derecho(m): 2:42pm On Nov 15, 2014
lomaxx:
Where was Adefuye when America was learning how to make weapons? See as the man is talking like USA owe him a duty to protect his country for him.
clap for ya self.Too much sense
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by ocelot2006(m): 2:59pm On Nov 15, 2014
Ichiato:
My friend go and sit down jor. Didn't you see the news yesterday? Nigerian military Air force crashed another helicopter. Yes another, this is not the first time. Even common plane in our aviation industry is a problem to maintain. You here spilling rubbish
Abeg shut up!! Tell me ONE competent airforce that hasn't experienced an air crash for different reasons. Is it the Americans that have had issues with brown - outs during the 2nd Iraq war resulting in a number of AH-64 Apaches Longbow crashes, or safety issues with the OV-22 Osprey, or CH-47 Chinook crashes as a result of enemy fire in Afghanistan, or one or two OH-58 Kiowas shot down by insurgents in Iraq? Or is it the Russians? Indians? List just one. So why is the Nigerian Air Force any different?
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by ocelot2006(m): 3:38pm On Nov 15, 2014
segnys007:
let Nigeria make the chopper then.
If we had the expertise, we would have made it by now. Designing and building an aircraft from scratch is NOT the same as that for a ground vehicle.
Re: Why We Refused To Sell Cobra Helicopters To Nigeria - US by revolt(m): 3:56pm On Nov 15, 2014
F117AA:
You are an idiott.
You don't see Nigerians accusing russia of not selling us arms .
Why?
Because the US is the one pocknosing in our affairs, huffing and puffing over corruption and accusing the military of incompetence.
The US accuse the Nigerian military of poor equipping , and yet turn around to tell us not to buy from them.
Does that make sense to you?
mr oga I'm nt jes addressin the situation I'm addressing a phenomenom.

We don't need hitech machines to defeat bh,.. All we need is a few tanks and regular choppers..(Wwii standard).

Do u know the cost of buyn it is almost 50times the cost of buildn it? Now like I said we need to start making our weapons instead of blaming US. The US has predicted nigerias brk up and u xpect them to sell armd?!!!

Our military budget is enough to assemble tank battalions. The black man should strt fnkn of creatn. Do u think an indian diplomat or chinese will come out cryn another country refused to sell arms.. Its a fool that comes on tv sayn that. No sense of pride.
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