₦airaland Forum

brainpower:
First of all I'm not a mallam and not from the north and I wouldn't have replied you cos I see people that insult others as children.
If you read my write up you will see that the place we differ is when it comes to US oweing him. We can decide to build ours but cos Africa keeps depending on them for aids we wouldn't do that so that we won't provoke them. That's why I stated the anti gay law whcih they are not happy with us. We have a long way to go. What about the fact that we are not begging for the aircrafts but buying them?

I never said u were a mallam or from north !! I said ( mallam mentality). I think u should ponder on the issues I raised. Until were aware of this, the future leaders will still make same mistake as the present.

ChrisOkafor87:
. My Bro. you 're right, American is the grand sponsor of BH. What evidence do we need to see again. So BH has human rights to kill, bomb and massacre people, under which Constitution and Law is that one stated. When Nigeria asked for their assistance against Ebola Virus they hasitated thinking they God and later Ebola located them, now they are playing tricks with us my word for them is that something worse than BH will come to them and let's see how they will apply their so-called human right. Ndi ara!

You people are deliberately being obtuse! Not human right of BH but of ordinary citizens, defenseless citizens getting extra judicially killed in the north east. Reports have it and we have certainly seen videos of NA slaughtering humans like cows no different from shekau and his bands of lunatics.

You south easterners are so hard headed, I'm very irritated by the lot of you.

ttmacoy:
You sound like of those nano silver believes.

For your information Nigeria handled ebola with the help of the CDC based in America and for your information aside the index case of Duncan, America has treated every other ebola cases unlike Nigeria where 50% died.

Nigerians have perfected the art of blaming everyone and everything for the failure of its people and government. Blame witch in village, blame devil, blame America, but never blame mediocrity .

I'm a sane country there would be questions asked as to why our army is so poorly equipped. What has happened to all the defense budget for the past years Has it all been stolen or arw we saying the government purposely did not equip the army?

Nigeria budgeted $2.3bn for defense in 2013 after years of average increase of 20% since 2007. What has been done with the money as we know families of soldiers who died in service were not getting their entitlements
Wh ere is all the money going?

Instead it's blame game. Continue blaming America and don't cox the rot in your country. You blame America for everything yet everyday queue at their embassy.

What's this one saying now ....

manutdadex:
na free b d helicopters Wetin concern dem concern maintainance? Na their money?? Useless excuses!!

U dey mind them..? I so dislike America like shit

rawpadgin:
oh yes, I've got diploma in biz admin, @ the moment i work in one of the spdc facility.
but soon i will quit my job to focus more on my company

that's good. I wish you all the best

lomaxx:
Where was Adefuye when America was learning how to make weapons? See as the man is talking like USA owe him a duty to protect his country for him.

GOD BLESS YOU SIR. At this stage we still don't have equipments to fight BH.What will happen if a country declares war on us?Are they saying we don't even have enough weapons to curtail this insurgency?What about those tanks they parade on 'millitary day' or whatever it is called.For me,the only thing the Nigeria Army is good at is to torture innocent citizens.They all clueless Human Beings.

Mcowubaba:
we are ALLIES....the dnt owe us...but in times of need the are Meant to help...nd dats vice versa

mr oga we are a non aligned nation.. Get ur facts ryt

brainpower:
My brother, technically US owes him protection cos they are the world power and get involved where any country is being threatened by war or violence. Boko haram has been designated a terrorist group so US should come in. And moreover, we want to buy these aircrafts, its not dash as so to we won't return them in good form. They are ours.

America is just beating about the bush. They killed Gaddafi in cold blood, they were sponsoring ISIS before but now ISIS has gotten out of control. We refused to legalize same sex marriage and thses are the reasons why they stopped buying our oil and don't want to sell arms. If we decide to build our own military equipments they will make sure they frustrate it with the help of the UN. US are opportunists and every country in the world can see them as such and that's why they facing so much opposition.

3000 thumbs up for u bro

chamboy:
pls sir, can u tell me the year at which Nigeria would Attain d level of their so called potential

Nigeria's potentials will be fully achieved when we start holding our leaders accountable, vote-out the non-performing once, and vote-in competent patriotic people.

[quote author=olayitoyiwonuola post=28001031][/quote]beast!

ocelot2006:
No, we can't produce weapons.....just...

Pistols (Beretta M9, Browning Hi-Power)
Rifles (AK-47/Type 56, FN-FAL)
General Purpose Machine Guns
Rocket Propelled Grenades
Grenades
APCs (Igirigi, Proforce vehicles, Mekahog)
Tactical Vests
Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (Amebo series)

Yep...We can't produce any weapons..

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Then use it!!!

I hate the beggar attitude of Nigeria leaders.

Remind me again what Nigeria used against Ebola.
That's how u do it. Use what u have to solve problems, and the rest of the world will come calling.

It is not as if BH is using chemical and nuclear weapons. Ng. Army does not want to fight. If you like give them B2 bombers.

Like I will want sophisticated machines in the hands of those that think in this 2014 that ordinary electricity is Alien technology

Politics everywhere!

Equip yourself for financial freedom by starting a business with 100k and begin to reap a profit of 50k monthly by the 3rd month if you are really keen to beef up your finance.

Check out the site- www.cni-nigeria.com and call me later. Check out my signature to call.

It is extremely disheartening that once again, USA is on the wrong side backing the bad guys again in Africa, because they don't like Nigeria.
USA and CIA should go ahead and arm Boko Haram with stinger missiles to shoot at Nigerian aircrafts. The truth is that the same people they are backing today will use the same weapons to attack USA interests down the line. Too many examples of this should have helped America learn, but it seems nothing has been learnt from history.

Just like in Afghanistan where they once backed the Taliban who later turned against them,in Iraq where they once backed Saddam who later turned against them, in SA where they once backed the apartheid regime and the country later turned against them, in Libya where they once backed the rebels who later turned against them. In Syrian where they almost bombed Assad to back the rebels who turned into ISIS and started killing Americans and so many examples.

Boko Haram will smuggle the same American weapons and use them to attack US aircrafts and interest somewhere else in Africa. It is only a question of time. Those that refuse to learn from history are bound to keep repeating it.

InvertedHammer:
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Then use it!!!
I hate the beggar attitude of Nigeria leaders.
Remind me again what Nigeria used against Ebola.
That's how u do it. Use what u have to solve problems, and the rest of the world will come calling.
It is not as if BH is using chemical and nuclear weapons. Ng. Army does not want to fight. If you like give them B2 bombers.
Like I will want sophisticated machines in the hands of those that think in this 2014 that ordinary electricity is Alien technology

Apart from the US, the most powerful countries in the world are not the most developed.
India, russia and brazil still suffer power cuts.
Pakistan an islamic hotbed is a nuclear power.
Kill yourself if you can't live with that.

DaBullIT:
...Furthermore if some members of the Nigerian army came out to say they cant shoot their brothers in Islam and they happily handed over weapons and armored tanks. That jet in the wrong hands is a disaster for Nigeria as a whole
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Well said!

Besides, boko haram could still capture these weapons and hand them over to other terrorist groups who could later use them against Americans.

America would not sell weapons to irresponsible buyers. Corruption and the lack of discipline in the Nigerian Army is not a hidden secret, yet we expect the US to still sell weapons to us. SMH...

F117AA:
Apart from the US, the most powerful countries in the world are not the most developed.
India, russia and brazil still suffer power cuts.
Pakistan an islamic hotbed is a nuclear power.
Kill yourself if you can't live with that.

Kill myself you said. You got jokes.

The suffering you are going through in your life is enough curse already. So there is no need for me to add insult to your injury.

Of all things about developed world, the only association you want to make is on the negative ones you created out of your imagination.

See your life ( just saying BC I know you have none)
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InvertedHammer:
Kill myself you said. You got jokes.

The suffering you are going through in your life is enough curse already. So there is no need for me to add insult to your injury.

Of all things about developed world, the only association you want to make is on the negative ones you created out of your imagination.

See your life ( just saying BC I know you have none)
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You are an incorrigible moronn.
You claim to live in a 'developed' country, yet your thinking pattern are 4th world-like.
The example you chose was what i gave to you.
I can bet that you are a loser in real life.

Going through some of the replies on here showed that there are some Nigerians that are very intelligent and do see the problems of the country as it is.
The minister Okonja that said graduates are unemployable http://dailypost.ng/2014/04/21/abiola-solanke-nigerias-educational-system-unemployable-graduates/ was very right after all.

If I was a PDP Coordinator and hired some strategist for nairaland would have fired all these PDP fools a long time ago, they cause way more damage to the government than bokoharam walahi

If this level of intelligence is what runs a country like Nigeria(probably so going by the state of things) well Nigeria deserves all it is getting right now, no enemy in the world can possibly do worse.

Fact is Nigeria in its current state cannot maintain a fleet of cobra. They normally buy old Russian copters and move them from point A to B once in a while like weddings and funerals. but when it was time to use the for what they were built for the pilots started landing then upside down.
How many of those Russian copters have gone down in the last 2 years.

They probably bought some Russian salvages put some Oando 20w50 engine oil and kerosine in there they crash it.Why kerosine? we import all our fuels and who really knows what they sell as gas.

US will not encourage war when diplomatic options have not been explored.

Bokoharam is the result of a cancer within the system and arming such a system might end up destabilizing the whole region.

Now this might support the need for a presence of African Command but not at a greater cost than the current cost of the insurgency.

The head of the snake is within the Nigerian government if they can't cut it off then live with it.

F117AA:
Apart from the US, the most powerful countries in the world are not the most developed.
India, russia and brazil still suffer power cuts.
Pakistan an islamic hotbed is a nuclear power.
Kill yourself if you can't live with that.

These countries you mentioned can produced their own weapons and they are not much older than Nigeria

BlackTechnology:
These countries you mentioned can produced their own weapons and they are not much older than Nigeria

Yes, i agree.
And the sad thing is that these are not countries you would call developed.

F117AA:
Yes, i agree.
And the sad thing is that these are not countries you would call developed.

That's why I keep insisting that we must challenge our higher institutions to engage in weapons development with the promise to give them the contract to
1) teach our military intellectuals
2) mass produced their weapons at Defence industry corporation of Nigeria (DICON) or any other industry within Nigeria.



Nigerians do not know that a nation can be recolonized by a different military power other than her previous colonial power.

Its about time we start producing our needs! What kind of humans r we sef?

Fck the west. Taiwan, china etc strted in the 70s. It strts with learning how to make a circuit box thts efficient. Whch we all knw 3qurters of our engineers cnt mke by themselves.

InvertedHammer:
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Then use it!!!

I hate the beggar attitude of Nigeria leaders.

Remind me again what Nigeria used against Ebola.
That's how u do it. Use what u have to solve problems, and the rest of the world will come calling.

It is not as if BH is using chemical and nuclear weapons. Ng. Army does not want to fight. If you like give them B2 bombers.

Like I will want sophisticated machines in the hands of those that think in this 2014 that ordinary electricity is Alien technology

Who the hell is begging for freebies from the Americans?! Us? Read the darn story again abeg. The last time the Americans gave us platforms for free, they were WW2 Coast Guard junk cutters and the recent bare Hamilton Class Ship + a bunch of Toyota Land cruiser pickups and trucks. That is it. In this case, we asked that they SELL old Cobra Attack Helos (key word *SELL*) to us.

That said, we shouldn't even be surprised about the actions of the Americans. It is typical of those two - faced clowns. The Ambassador shouldn't have even said anything in the first place. Besides, I'll still pick the Mil- 35 any day over the AH-6 Cobra, and we've got a host of other nations that'll be eager to sell their birds from the Chinese to the South Africans.

But the Americans should NOT insult us by claiming that we can't operate and maintain that platform.

F117AA:
You are an incorrigible moronn.
You claim to live in a 'developed' country, yet your thinking pattern are 4th world-like.
The example you chose was what i gave to you.
I can bet that you are a loser in real life.

Wow. I am impressed. One loose e-tiger on the prowl. I bet you are a chicken in person.
Engaging you will be a collosal waste of time because at the end nothing changes.
Perhaps you are intelligent but wallowing in apparent lack of exposure. I know a few people who used to be like you. It is not your fault.

I can understand.
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ocelot2006:
Who the hell is begging for freebies from the Americans?! Us? Read the darn story again abeg. The last time the Americans gave us platforms for free, they were WW2 Coast Guard junk cutters and the recent bare Hamilton Class Ship + a bunch of Toyota Land cruiser pickups and trucks. That is it. In this case, we asked that they SELL old Cobra Attack Helos (key word *SELL*) to us.

That said, we shouldn't even be surprised about the actions of the Americans. It is typical of those two - faced clowns. The Ambassador shouldn't have even said anything in the first place. Besides, I'll still pick the Mil- 35 any day over the AH-6 Cobra, and we've got a host of other nations that'll be eager to sell their birds from the Chinese to the South Africans.

But the Americans should NOT insult us by claiming that we can't operate and maintain that platform.

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Some business locations have signs that say "We reserve the right to refuse services to anyone". So you can vent all you want. USA saidthat they are not selling to Nigeria. Case closed.

Those hunters and vigilantes in Mubi did not use Cobra to decimate BH. Even if, USA is not the only country that manufactures weapons.

Nigeria military does not want to fight. There is no motivation which is why a whole battalion would abandon their armament and flee to Cameroun at the first sound of gun shots.

Don't tell me that you cannot decipher a diplomatic way and politically correct way of telling someone to shove it.

Nigeria leaders are learners.

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ocelot2006:
Abeg shut up!! Tell me ONE competent airforce that hasn't experienced an air crash for different reasons. Is it the Americans that have had issues with brown - outs during the 2nd Iraq war resulting in a number of AH-64 Apaches Longbow crashes, or safety issues with the OV-22 Osprey, or CH-47 Chinook crashes as a result of enemy fire in Afghanistan, or one or two OH-58 Kiowas shot down by insurgents in Iraq? Or is it the Russians? Indians? List just one. So why is the Nigerian Air Force any different?

Hmmm, so brain is not matured enough to distinguish between a fighter plan that crashed due to technical failure and one that was shutdown by weapons. Not even matured enough to distinguish the frequency with which this crashes happen. Have you ever heard that BH shot down any plane? Nawa for you oh

revolt:
Its about time we start producing our needs! What kind of humans r we sef?

Fck the west. Taiwan, china etc strted in the 70s. It strts with learning how to make a circuit box thts efficient. Whch we all knw 3qurters of our engineers cnt mke by themselves.

God bless you.

Volksfuhrer:
Well said!

Besides, boko haram could still capture these weapons and hand them over to other terrorist groups who could later use them against Americans.

America would not sell weapons to irresponsible buyers. Corruption and the lack of discipline in the Nigerian Army is not a hidden secret, yet we expect the US to still sell weapons to us. SMH...

I adore your contribution Bro, you can see beyond the obvious , that's admirable . If Mutalab had suceeded with the Bomb he tried to detonate, I am sure Nigeria would be in Chaos now, not because US will retaliate , but that single incident will create awareness for them, All terrorist groups would come through our porous borders and have a major base of operation in Nigeria and kill everybody .

Point is , US's FBI,CIA and other secret agencies are able project into the future and make deductions . Nigerian Army has been infiltrated selling a bomber to Nigeria means giving Nigerians death certificate , even if its Nigerians we can still be thankful, What if boko haram captures that Jet and attacks an unfriendly neighboring country just to start war which would help them reduce their workload on Nigerians, they'll use the war as cover and advance towards other parts of the country .

People complaining about US not selling should learn to reason , What an Elderly man sees when he lies down would be impossible for a kid to see even if he climbs a tall Iroko tree , Nigeria being the kid should learn to take advise and assistance from USA rather than wanting to have a weapon they can not control.

Loaning 1 drone from USA would be the end of Boko haram , but they won't do that because they want to chop out of the weapons money

The U.S. has done many things to warrant hatred both INSIDE and OUTSIDE the country but it's not stupid by a long shot. It learned a valuable lesson from 9/11. Some of those fanatics, responsible for 9/11 were trained as pilots, here in the States.

It's been reported that some members of the Nigerian military are deserting, leaving equipment and weaponry behind for BH to find and use. Now imagine BH getting their hands on a Cobra. The U.S. wants no hand in aiding the consequences that would most likely occur.

Never underestimate madmen.

Never underestimate the U.S.'s first priority...itself.

The US refuse to sell Cobra Helicopters to Nigeria because Boko Haram was created by the CIA