budosa92:
Good day,

i just venture into fish business but my pond is always getting greenish quickly. please what can i do to maintain and achieve good result from this.

thank you.

budosa92:
Good day,

i just venture into fish business but my pond is always getting greenish quickly. please what can i do to maintain and achieve good result from this.

thank you.

REUBEN010:
Hello house. Pls I need recommendations on any hatchery that sells hatchable broiler and pullet eggs around Ibadan and it's environs.

I've posted on agric network but no replies are forth coming.

jites:
Thanks Robonski, i discovered that procrastination can be a dream killer sometimes so decided to take the bull by the horn and start with the little we had. There is no better time to start than now.
I want to state here and now so as not to give people some kind of false representation when i said its better to start now.

Firstly, i have been gathering information about fish farming for a while now to the extent Oga Robonski tire for me and kept asking me " when are you starting when are you starting? lol you can ask him so please dont just jump into fish farming without getting the necessary training- both theory and practical.
Following on from the training stuff, my business partner before we started attended a catfish training organised by Oga Robonski in Lagos, Mickyfish also visited our land to give us some advice on how to proceed and also my business partner also went to Songhai in Benin republic to see and learn a few things also.
I have said all these because someone stated and quite rightly that some farmer dont tell the truth and if i am asked any question i will provide truthful answers
Okay back to the original question i was asked by Oga Robonski and Fhemmy the Novice with regards to the dimension and cost, the best thing is to post the cost estimate i was given by the builders exactly but take note of the cememt price cost at the time was 1700 but they used 1800 for the estimate just incase it went up a little during construction so please factor that in.
Also we did german floor and concrete pillars as Robonski had already pointed out.


Estimated size
34 feet by 20 feet (four ponds in one). Each pond is 20feet by 8. 5 feet.
Blocks (6 inches)
Four coaches to make each pond. Total number of blocks will be 396.
Estimated materials
 13 bags of cement for one tipper of sharp sand. 13bags x N1,800(plus transport)=N23,000. 30 blocks from one bag of cement.
 Two tippers of sand N17,000 x 2=N34,000
 Workmanship for molding of 390 blocks x N30 = N11,700
 Rod 10 x N1,100=N11,000
 Rod workmanship N5,000
 Granite (one pick up) N17,000 plus 4 bags of cement for casting of pillars
 8 bags of cement for plaster N14,400 plus 16 water seal N500 x 16 = N8,000
 396 x N10 for blocks setting N3,960 plus helper N2,000
 9 bags of cement for setting of blocks (This could be less than)
 4 board of wood @ N1,200x4=N4,800
 Nails (4 inches and 3 inches) = N400
 Wood union=N500
 Carrying of wood=N500
 Carpenter workmanship=N3,000
 Pouring of German floor, 2 work men @N6,000 plus helper @ N2,000=N8,000
 10 bags of cement for German floor x N1,800=N18,000
 Plumbing estimate N20,000
Total estimate=N198,000

Note: The price of bag of cement is currently N1,700 at the time of this estimate but I just estimated N1,800.

jites:
Thanks Robonski, i discovered that procrastination can be a dream killer sometimes so decided to take the bull by the horn and start with the little we had. There is no better time to start than now.
I want to state here and now so as not to give people some kind of false representation when i said its better to start now.

Firstly, i have been gathering information about fish farming for a while now to the extent Oga Robonski tire for me and kept asking me " when are you starting when are you starting? lol you can ask him so please dont just jump into fish farming without getting the necessary training- both theory and practical.
Following on from the training stuff, my business partner before we started attended a catfish training organised by Oga Robonski in Lagos, Mickyfish also visited our land to give us some advice on how to proceed and also my business partner also went to Songhai in Benin republic to see and learn a few things also.
I have said all these because someone stated and quite rightly that some farmer dont tell the truth and if i am asked any question i will provide truthful answers
Okay back to the original question i was asked by Oga Robonski and Fhemmy the Novice with regards to the dimension and cost, the best thing is to post the cost estimate i was given by the builders exactly but take note of the cememt price cost at the time was 1700 but they used 1800 for the estimate just incase it went up a little during construction so please factor that in.
Also we did german floor and concrete pillars as Robonski had already pointed out.


Estimated size
34 feet by 20 feet (four ponds in one). Each pond is 20feet by 8. 5 feet.
Blocks (6 inches)
Four coaches to make each pond. Total number of blocks will be 396.
Estimated materials
 13 bags of cement for one tipper of sharp sand. 13bags x N1,800(plus transport)=N23,000. 30 blocks from one bag of cement.
 Two tippers of sand N17,000 x 2=N34,000
 Workmanship for molding of 390 blocks x N30 = N11,700
 Rod 10 x N1,100=N11,000
 Rod workmanship N5,000
 Granite (one pick up) N17,000 plus 4 bags of cement for casting of pillars
 8 bags of cement for plaster N14,400 plus 16 water seal N500 x 16 = N8,000
 396 x N10 for blocks setting N3,960 plus helper N2,000
 9 bags of cement for setting of blocks (This could be less than)
 4 board of wood @ N1,200x4=N4,800
 Nails (4 inches and 3 inches) = N400
 Wood union=N500
 Carrying of wood=N500
 Carpenter workmanship=N3,000
 Pouring of German floor, 2 work men @N6,000 plus helper @ N2,000=N8,000
 10 bags of cement for German floor x N1,800=N18,000
 Plumbing estimate N20,000
Total estimate=N198,000

Note: The price of bag of cement is currently N1,700 at the time of this estimate but I just estimated N1,800.

Fhemmmy:


Lovely.... this willl give others a starting point. ... what is the capacity of the pond, how many fishes willl that hold to table size? The 8.5 x 20 will hold how many fish

jites:


@ Fhemmmy i think the standard is usually 10 by 10 feet which should be able to raise 1000 to table size, however, i am not too stuck up on calculation and sizes, but by now every serious non greedy farmer should have the awareness of the fact that overstocking is not ideal, i for one i just make sure a pond is not over stock as this can inhibit their growth and freedom.

As you can see from mine its not the usual 10 by 10 but i am aware of what the standard is and able to use that as a yardstick to make sure the fishes have got enough room to swim around, play and grow.
I think it is also worth noting that although we say 10 by 10 should be stock with at least 1000 but by the time you start sorting them into sizes you may end up with less than the 1000 in a pond due to moving some into a separate pond as a result of their new sizes, that's why it is advisable to have spare capacity to cater for things like
sorting
pond leakages and repairs
disease outbreak and quarantine etc
By the grace of God i have capacity for more ponds to be constructed but i need to test the market and make sure expansion is being driven by demand.

jites:


@ Fhemmmy i think the standard is usually 10 by 10 feet which should be able to raise 1000 to table size, however, i am not too stuck up on calculation and sizes, but by now every serious non greedy farmer should have the awareness of the fact that overstocking is not ideal, i for one i just make sure a pond is not over stock as this can inhibit their growth and freedom.

As you can see from mine its not the usual 10 by 10 but i am aware of what the standard is and able to use that as a yardstick to make sure the fishes have got enough room to swim around, play and grow.
I think it is also worth noting that although we say 10 by 10 should be stock with at least 1000 but by the time you start sorting them into sizes you may end up with less than the 1000 in a pond due to moving some into a separate pond as a result of their new sizes, that's why it is advisable to have spare capacity to cater for things like
sorting
pond leakages and repairs
disease outbreak and quarantine etc
By the grace of God i have capacity for more ponds to be constructed but i need to test the market and make sure expansion is being driven by demand.

olufiz89:
Thanks for sharing ur sukx with us, really encouraging. Is 'Blagdon' d name of d disinfectant, and is it available in d open mkt?

Belexy:
Hello all, farmers little update on whats going on.
The whatsapp group has proposed to form a NATIONAL ASSOCIATION for fish farmers. We deliberated, argued, proposed different names and finally voted between this two names for the association:

(1) NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FISH FARMERS (NAFF)

(2) GRASSROOT FISH FARMERS ASSOCIATION(GROFFA)


At the end of the day, NAFF was chosen by the members.
Next point of action is to register the association with CAC ( both names will be presented to CAC with NAFF being our preferred choice) and to come up with a website.


The whatsapp group is still active. . . Plz send a whatsapp msg to this number: 08023000802 If u wanna join the Fish Farming whatsapp group. Thanks.

fzero:

I joined the group to communicate with fellow farmers but it's too early for personal aggrandizement with the forming of an association which will be based in Lagos.

binbass:
The end of this thread.

jites:


Thanks Oh Fhemmmy someone has to try and put all this theory into practice.. special thanks to Robinski..I dey trouble the man on whatsapp whenever I notice any casala o. I started with just 30 then decided that I will just keep growing the 30 into broodstock for future hatching exercise.. so Mickfish be on standby o cos I like one hatchery photo you put up one time but I cannot locate it again so i will need your assistance with the construction of a little compact hatchery next year. Presently I stocked 1200 for trial and so far God has been faithful and everything is going according to plan. A little challenge is the 3 days changing of water.. I think it's a kind of waste with no proper drainage system. So I decided to plant some plantains as they use water a lot and then planted some other crops. Next year I intend to by God's grace construct a little earthen pond close by which will mainly be for broodstock growing and some of the water from the concrete pond will be going there.
We have formed a cooperative in our location as there was none and registered it.. more than 20 members now of different aspects from hatchery specialist to grow out guys.
We would endeavour to regulate the price by kilo and take the mono poly from the market women.. We will try a d work with them so everyone is a winner
Members are shareholders buying shares and in turn the pool of fund will be available as credit facility for members and later none members with collateral. Profit distributed by ratio of shares owned
Make the cooperative a platform to get government agricultural grants and assistance.
In the long run hatching, drying and packaging is on the agenda cos one has to try and maximise return with less effort by his Grace. Shalom all

mickyfish:


Jites baba you have done well for yourself, no problem as i am on standby for the hatchery construction when you are ready.

Fhemmmy:


I am sure all events went well, I am sure you know what I am talking about nd I wush you the best of all.

mickyfish:

Thank you chief, all event went well.

binbass:
The end of this thread.

Johnnyessence:
anyone with available ponds here should reply pls still in need of pond .u can reach me on my email: johnadegbola4uall@gmail.com